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marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
January 08 2015 14:52 GMT
#6341
On January 08 2015 23:49 IAmRobik wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 05 2015 12:58 ritoky wrote:
on phone, only have like 5 minutes. apparently SL claimed cop since i last was able to read the thread. guess he is not the lynch today, evaluate claim later.

want to vote vivax, marv, maybe damdred. so for now: ##vote: vivax

This one.

any idea what the votecount looked like at the time?
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
21965 Posts
January 08 2015 14:56 GMT
#6342
Did I miss something in the game that proved ritoky to be not-cop? I'm still wokring under the assumption that he is. Then again I didn't read much today cause I will probably just sheep Artanis tomorrow.
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
January 08 2015 14:57 GMT
#6343
On January 08 2015 23:56 Vivax wrote:
Did I miss something in the game that proved ritoky to be not-cop? I'm still wokring under the assumption that he is. Then again I didn't read much today cause I will probably just sheep Artanis tomorrow.

i'm good with you sheeping artanis for now
On January 08 2015 10:55 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
Ritoky is pretty much confirmed mafia for stressing your 'great idea - rescinding claim' as if it were serious. There's no way he actually buys that.

[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
21965 Posts
January 08 2015 15:03 GMT
#6344
Robik I don't really buy that you townread me now just for one post from a scummer after you were so super confident I was scum 80% of the game.

If I superscumread someone then I don't unscumread him for one post from a scummer that could mean something but also couldn't. If they want to bus they will try to look like they mean it, if they want to frame they will try to look like they aren't sure or townread them and stuff like that.
IAmRobik
Profile Joined January 2014
United States5878 Posts
January 08 2015 15:04 GMT
#6345
Like, is this a ploy from Vivax to night kill me and then say "I WOULD NEVER KILL ROBIK THERE -- I DIDN'T EVEN THINK HE WAS THE REAL COP"
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
21965 Posts
January 08 2015 15:07 GMT
#6346
In this case if I saw supers post while scumreading myself I would think "that shit is a bus cause Vivax wasn't getting lynched anyway" at that moment. Then again I'd have to look at the votecount at the time but if it was shortly after Sl's claim I think I lost most of the heat already.
IAmRobik
Profile Joined January 2014
United States5878 Posts
January 08 2015 15:08 GMT
#6347
On January 08 2015 23:52 marvellosity wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 08 2015 23:49 IAmRobik wrote:
On January 05 2015 12:58 ritoky wrote:
on phone, only have like 5 minutes. apparently SL claimed cop since i last was able to read the thread. guess he is not the lynch today, evaluate claim later.

want to vote vivax, marv, maybe damdred. so for now: ##vote: vivax

This one.

any idea what the votecount looked like at the time?

Hour before lynch and basically all votes besides my own had moved off vivax at that point.
Pretty sure his vote was on vivax on d1 too.
That's part of the reason why I was calling him town, or at least not as scummy, but I think I was coming around to him being scum.

Also, that first big post that he made was pure garbage and full of fabricated reads. I didn't remember that little gem until yesterday when he claimed. I'm gonna go see who reacted well to that. I know artanis did. Not sure who else.

Also, it might be worth going back and reading up on eden's posts again. He (from sheeping me) was right on the first two scum so far.
IAmRobik
Profile Joined January 2014
United States5878 Posts
January 08 2015 15:09 GMT
#6348
On January 09 2015 00:07 Vivax wrote:
In this case if I saw supers post while scumreading myself I would think "that shit is a bus cause Vivax wasn't getting lynched anyway" at that moment. Then again I'd have to look at the votecount at the time but if it was shortly after Sl's claim I think I lost most of the heat already.

nah. it was WAYYYYY after SL's claim. It was 1hour before EOD, and people hopped off of you and spread between geript/superbia 6 hours before EOD. Actually should go back and look at that vote too to see who was on super vs who was on geript. Would also be interesting to see who was on vivax that moved over to super. Those people are very likely town because i don't think scum jump from scum to scum or even town to scum when they can jump onto town!geript
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
21965 Posts
January 08 2015 15:10 GMT
#6349
That's part of the reason why I was calling him town, or at least not as scummy, but I think I was coming around to him being scum.


This sounds like you getting cold feet for that read on him tbh
KelsierSC
Profile Blog Joined March 2013
United Kingdom10443 Posts
January 08 2015 15:10 GMT
#6350
On January 09 2015 00:09 IAmRobik wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 09 2015 00:07 Vivax wrote:
In this case if I saw supers post while scumreading myself I would think "that shit is a bus cause Vivax wasn't getting lynched anyway" at that moment. Then again I'd have to look at the votecount at the time but if it was shortly after Sl's claim I think I lost most of the heat already.

nah. it was WAYYYYY after SL's claim. It was 1hour before EOD, and people hopped off of you and spread between geript/superbia 6 hours before EOD. Actually should go back and look at that vote too to see who was on super vs who was on geript. Would also be interesting to see who was on vivax that moved over to super. Those people are very likely town because i don't think scum jump from scum to scum or even town to scum when they can jump onto town!geript


think marv did this
Zerg for Life
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
21965 Posts
January 08 2015 15:11 GMT
#6351
Oh wow.

No, you actually scumread him at the time, you said you wanted to lynch him and then at shenannies time you didn't do anything which is the argument I use against you since that very moment.
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
21965 Posts
January 08 2015 15:11 GMT
#6352
And now you say you were coming around to him being scum.

Gotta reread but I remember you listed him as scum and when JAT and Kelsier wanted to switch you didn't do jack.
IAmRobik
Profile Joined January 2014
United States5878 Posts
January 08 2015 15:13 GMT
#6353
On January 09 2015 00:12 IAmRobik wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 05 2015 08:10 Fecalfeast wrote:
I Count this vote sons


Vivax (5): IAmRobik, marvellosity, Palmar, justanothertownie, artanis[xP], VisceraEyes, DoctorHelvetica, Sicklucker, geript
Superbia (1): artanis[xP], sicklucker, Damdred
IAmRobik (0): geript
sicklucker (1): ritoky, superbia
TheChyz (0): Palmar
geript (5): Vivax, artanis[xP], DoctorHelvetica, Lazermonkey, palmar

Currently Vivax is set to be lynched.
Deadline is in


Show nested quote +
On January 05 2015 08:27 Superbia wrote:
##Vote: Robik


Show nested quote +
On January 05 2015 08:31 VisceraEyes wrote:
##Unvote
##Vote: geript


Show nested quote +
On January 05 2015 08:34 justanothertownie wrote:
##Unvote
##Vote: geript


Show nested quote +
On January 05 2015 08:54 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
##Unvote
##Vote Superbia


Show nested quote +
On January 05 2015 08:57 sicklucker wrote:
##unvote ##vote superbia


Show nested quote +
On January 05 2015 10:04 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
##Unvote Superbia
##Vote Geript


Show nested quote +
On January 05 2015 12:58 ritoky wrote:
##unvote
##vote: vivax


Show nested quote +
On January 05 2015 13:53 justanothertownie wrote:
##Unvote
##Vote: Superbia


Show nested quote +
On January 05 2015 14:00 KelsierSC wrote:
unvote vote supoerb


Show nested quote +
On January 05 2015 14:12 Alakaslam wrote:
I Count this vote sons


Vivax (3): IAmRobik, marvellosity, Palmar, justanothertownie, artanis[xP], VisceraEyes, DoctorHelvetica, Sicklucker, geript, ritoky
Superbia (4): artanis[xP], sicklucker, Damdred, Artanis[XP], sicklucker, marvellosity, justanothertownie
IAmRobik (1): geript, Superbia
sicklucker (0): ritoky, superbia
TheChyz (0): Palmar
geript (6): Vivax, Artanis[xP], DoctorHelvetica, Lazermonkey, palmar, VisceraEyes, justanothertownie, Artanis[XP]

Geript is lynched.
Deadline is in



Will analyze in a second. First thing that stands out is artanis making me want to puke

IAmRobik
Profile Joined January 2014
United States5878 Posts
January 08 2015 15:13 GMT
#6354
On January 09 2015 00:11 Vivax wrote:
And now you say you were coming around to him being scum.

Gotta reread but I remember you listed him as scum and when JAT and Kelsier wanted to switch you didn't do jack.

Ritoky?
IAmRobik
Profile Joined January 2014
United States5878 Posts
January 08 2015 15:14 GMT
#6355
Man. I love you vivax. If you're town and believe me as cop, this is the best thing ever because you're definitely doing a fine job of keeping me alive
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
21965 Posts
January 08 2015 15:18 GMT
#6356
On January 04 2015 06:14 IAmRobik wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 04 2015 06:08 justanothertownie wrote:
On January 04 2015 06:06 IAmRobik wrote:
On January 04 2015 05:43 justanothertownie wrote:
On January 04 2015 05:40 IAmRobik wrote:
im telling you that youre playing bad and your constantpressure ofme is out of place especially if yiu think vivaxis scum

Yeah, and it isn't helping anybody if you are town. The only way you make me back off is by giving decent reads on other players.

let's start with: what reads of mine do you disagree with?

Give me a summary and I will say so. My problem with you so far is that you aren't doing town Robik stuff and until very recently it looked like you still scumread me.

if vivax is town, that becomes a very likely scenario.

my reads are something along the lines of:

me town
artanis town
marv probably town

superbia maf
ritoky maf
vivax maf

drh was town but fell off today -- explained by work, but whatever. We'll see what he comes up with in following days.
that's about where i'm at. Eden was quite obviously my biggest town read yesterday, followed closely by DrH. DrH is probably still town, but like, it's annoying that he has fallen off so hard. I did my standard town!robik stuff in defending them adamantly against all stupid questions and pushes.

I found Koshi weird yesterday. I thought he came out too hard after the bats lynch, but i guess I was wrong on that. I don't knoow how hard I pushed against vivax d1, but I definitely read him as scummier than most. I'd have to go through the rest of the filter and the rest of the player list.

Oh, there's plmammmmar, who i was claling scummy too. he made 1 fucking post and everyone splooged over it and i thoought it was a gross overreaction to his one post.


On January 04 2015 06:17 IAmRobik wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 04 2015 06:15 Superbia wrote:
Why the fuck am I on top your scum-list, Robik?

cause this was your day 1 posting:

Show nested quote +
On January 01 2015 23:09 Superbia wrote:
This d1 is so perfectly timed.


Show nested quote +
On January 01 2015 23:18 Superbia wrote:
Pretty sure Ritoky claimed mafia with that big post. I'll read the rest of the thread later to find the other 4.

##Vote: Ritoky


A+ fucking work. You're afucking hero


On January 08 2015 23:48 IAmRobik wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 05 2015 13:09 Superbia wrote:
On January 05 2015 13:06 KelsierSC wrote:
On January 05 2015 13:04 Superbia wrote:
On January 05 2015 13:00 KelsierSC wrote:
On January 05 2015 12:57 Superbia wrote:
I don't know about either wagon at the moment.


explain why


I found geript to be scummy early on but now I just don't know anymore. He has said some decent things and his reads feel somewhat okay-ish. I also don't feel like the mafia-meta I had on him also is that relevant after checking one of his town-games. I also feel like there's literally no one supporting him, which makes it hard to see him as scum. I don't think scum busses this hard this fast. Especially on a vet. Literally feels like he's alone in the game.

Vivax I don't even have a read on. I checked his filter early on but kind of lost interest after seeing nothing standing out. I have read Koshi's case on him but meh.


ok if you had to pick one?


Vivax then, if I had to pick out of the two. He gave a read on me early on which sounded incredibly null and like he was ready to keep me available as a lynch option if necessary. Only based on that.

I think this was the post that made me reconsider on vivax

Plus, ritoky and super kinda sorta genuinely seem to want to lynch vivax...including yesterday. If you read ritoky's posts, it seems like he genuinely wouldn't mind lynching vivax. He obviously seems really reticent to do that w/r/t superbia

IAmRobik
Profile Joined January 2014
United States5878 Posts
January 08 2015 15:20 GMT
#6357
On January 01 2015 14:12 sicklucker wrote:
Nice gb read. He has not done anything and he has done this in previous games therefor he is town.

town

On January 01 2015 21:49 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 01 2015 13:33 ritoky wrote:
+ Show Spoiler [wall of reads] +
finally caught up in the thread, don't have a lot of time because new years is a busy day in the ER; just gonna copy/paste my notes in the thread; sorry i can't be more engaged:

note - trying not to null read anyone from this point forward, list everyone as town or scum unless they haven't posted

koshi - his wording in certain cases seems like he is trying to appease (i.e. "TheChyz is not scummy to me. I am not saying he is a townread but the case Dr.H. makes is not how I read Chyz." and other cases of not saying people's alignment ex: calling me and drh meh), says needs something new and fresh doesn't make it happen. mafia pile

gb - did his "not reading the thread" shtick which he did as town twice before, done nothing else. town pile

*geript - start of game was town: jokes, prodding, pushing for answers, calling someone's case horrible. did mafia thing where promised information in terms of meta reads on people, hasn't delivered. dunno why, think this post is super town: "At some point yah. But I'd like to have a read on most of the people in the game. There's way too many inactives right now. Maybe when I reread I'll realize I'm being dumb idk. We'll see." could be wrong, look into again later. town pile for now*

artanis - asking questions, pushing for answers to his questions, him being "torn" about chyz seems a little odd not enough to worry now, but watch to see how that read develops. town pile

lazer - says won't lynch drh, then null reads me for essentially the same reason. makes not very much sense. has a torn sentiment on geript like me and skeptical of koshi like me. could be wrong, but read too strange. mafia pile

marv - supposedly great town player, managed 2nd page of filter while doing remarkably little. read on me seems lazy and inaccurate. mafia pile

^jat - bleeding town out of every orofice. town pile^

*robik - made it to almost 2 pages of his filter while complaining about not having time to play, could have spent time playing. promises to wreck, worth waiting until tomorrow to see because strong town player. town pile*

thechyz - posts seem incredibly honest...can't place finger on it. could be slight donkey, but really seemed concerned about thread direction. snap omgus'd drH, which seems more town responsive in the context. town pile

palmar - agree with lots of his reads, don't like excuses. town pile

damdred - has a non-lazy meta read on me as opposed to marv. pushing thread in productive direction and correcting others for misrepresenting people's arguments. town pile

*batsnacks - someone (look up later) said batsnacks has been playing differently. seems like same town batsnacks to me. could have bad read on him. town pile*

SL - bizarre play. seemed to be trying to defuse me and drH arguing early, has weird interaction where he demands i have a read on him, when i don't. formulates a bunch of random thoughts in regards to me not remembering previous game. no idea what he is talking about in the slightest. none of his other reads are formulated in a coherent way, done nothing townie. mafia pile

vivax - no post

*kels - evolving reads, when i was mafia last game with him had static reads that didn't change much of the game, currently his reads seem more fluid, probably town or got better at mafia. this was the guy who said bats playing differently, watch that read. town pile*

ritoky - town jesus

drH - guy contradicting himself all over the place. stupid policy crap, doesn't follow through. forgotten about it entirely at this point. no idea what he is doing. dumpster case on chyz, pot calling kettle black. calling out for hypocrisy not because he is actually scum. has largest filter, probably town unfortunately. is most likely donkey, be wary of his reads they may be bad. town pile

eden - town town town. giving reads unprovoked, not folding when pressured, commenting when unsolicited. seems invested in reads makes very good point about the timing of chyz's post and people exploiting it to get a read on chyz even though the situation had kinda already defused itself. town pile

*rebirth - "i'm here guys! notice me senpai!" into nothing. scum pile for now*

superbia - no post

Forcing yourself to have a read on people that are null is pretty dumb and I have no idea why you consider me being torn on Chyz when there's been so many words on him scummy. Can you explain that to me?

I also have no idea why you think that geript quote is super town.

Whyo do you feel JAT is "bleeding town out of every orifice"? JAT has completely ransacked a bunch of good town players in one game and I haven't seen anything from him that I think he's incapable of doing as mafia.

Why is Robik on the town pile when your reads state nothing townie about him other than a vague promise, and why is RoL scum for saying the exact same thing?

Dr. H, your wall of texts tend to K.O. me. Could you run the most important points by me as brief as possible?


town

Those are the only two people who really commented on that shit post besides me and superbia
IAmRobik
Profile Joined January 2014
United States5878 Posts
January 08 2015 15:21 GMT
#6358
Are you just trying to post quotes that make me town, vivax?
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
21965 Posts
January 08 2015 15:22 GMT
#6359
Ah fuck wanted to hit the preview button.
Anyway you listed ritoky and super as scum and towards EoD you only kept yelling to lynch me.

Then you found posts that made you reconsider on them cause they scumread me?

There's also this:

On January 05 2015 07:07 IAmRobik wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 05 2015 06:57 justanothertownie wrote:
Robik, are you still absolutely convinced Vivax is the lynch for today?

yeah...i don't want koshi to yell at me in post game.

If I had to choose, I'd probably lynch ritoky or superbia though cause I think that Eden's reads were better than Koshi's


On January 05 2015 07:17 IAmRobik wrote:
Superbia -- i don't know what stupid game you're talking about or why you're even bringing it up...nor do I care.


IAmRobik
Profile Joined January 2014
United States5878 Posts
January 08 2015 15:23 GMT
#6360
I DON'T KNOW HOW THE FUCK YOU ARE QUOTING THE THINGS THAT YOU'RE QUOTING AND THEN TRYING TO CALL ME SCUM FOR IT?!?!?! ARE YOU FUCKING MAD MAN?
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