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Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
December 09 2014 12:06 GMT
#661
The gb/me thint became irrelevant because slam askef gb for a reason to scum read him and fite him and gb just said you are scum fite me.

Kind of agree with the rest though
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
December 09 2014 12:08 GMT
#662
First, @Xatalos, in regards to HTS, agree that she is playing weak. D1 lynch maybe not. Not the worst case against someone in this thread though, so good start.

Devil's advocate on LS: This list came out before SL revealed why he was being a near-silent happy present doofus. Try again. Many better reasons to scumread LS than what you said here, not to mention this has already been said.


No one else finds this BS interesting? 2 posts after I call attention to my SL vote:

On December 09 2014 11:29 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
Would lynch sicklucker.


Reasoning mirrors the rest of the thread's:

On December 09 2014 11:33 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 09 2014 11:30 Damdred wrote:
On December 09 2014 11:29 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
Would lynch sicklucker.


Who else would go to the flaming tree of death this day


Nobody, really. Just sicklucker.

I just don't get the feeling that he's the same kind of over-the-top contributor he is as town. The last game I played with him, his desire to contribute was so unbelievably strong that he wound up posting a ton of shit that incriminated himself for the sake of trying to help town.

Instead, we get this game, where he decides to talk about nonsense and fluff in a game centered around posting restrictions. He's posting just to post, when his modus operandi as town is to contribute until his heart stops.

Normally he's incredibly productive and comes up with tons of fresh ideas and perspective. I'm not getting any of that here. Do not like.


When asked why he's sheeping:

On December 09 2014 11:38 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 09 2014 11:36 rsoultin wrote:
On December 09 2014 11:33 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
On December 09 2014 11:30 Damdred wrote:
On December 09 2014 11:29 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
Would lynch sicklucker.


Who else would go to the flaming tree of death this day


Nobody, really. Just sicklucker.

I just don't get the feeling that he's the same kind of over-the-top contributor he is as town. The last game I played with him, his desire to contribute was so unbelievably strong that he wound up posting a ton of shit that incriminated himself for the sake of trying to help town.

Instead, we get this game, where he decides to talk about nonsense and fluff in a game centered around posting restrictions. He's posting just to post, when his modus operandi as town is to contribute until his heart stops.

Normally he's incredibly productive and comes up with tons of fresh ideas and perspective. I'm not getting any of that here. Do not like.


Just said I don't have to change my vote on SL to get yogibluebear to play. Got anything non-sheepy, ninjajedi?


Nah.

Inclined to townread you off of our small interaction, but wharvez.


When SL reveals his poor reading skillz:

On December 09 2014 12:03 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
I hate how I say something smart and it goes down the drain immediately.

Whatever. Killer Instinct time.


So...not only does he think parroting everyone else is smart, but he agrees that his SL read is now crap worthy. Why he still voting for SL? Nothing else of any interest whatsoever in his posts.
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
December 09 2014 12:09 GMT
#663
On December 09 2014 20:57 Holyflare wrote:
Its hardly "vivax has inconsistent reads" like you make it out to be though.

How is there nothing there in bunnies posts???? Are we even reading the same game. At least state why my case/points are wrong before denouncing them based on nothing.

Also in regards to xatalos, bunnies having a 1/4 of the votes doesn't really mean anything and there are people pushing in different directions. This means nothing about bunnies alignment at all though, mafia might not even have a voice in the thread yet so far too much wifom. Your points on hts are... Ehh.. Just not appealing? You pretty much base it all on one post which isn't even that scummy and then say the rest of her posts are fluff but they aren't really in the context, she also has no suspicion of damd and the association of bunnies/hts doesn't apply at all with the evidence.

I also don't know why you even have a kelsier read in your post at all, that looks really out of place.


My point was that there are other people being voted, but the votes are scattered without any kind of focus. If Mafia wanted to do something about 27ninjabunnies being lynched, they would likely try to guide the town in another direction. So far I haven't really seen that. It doesn't completely clear her, no, but it's a worthy argument.

Not sure what you're talking about regarding Half the Sky. Her filter really is full of fluff and reactive posting under pressure. And she certainly did show (weak) suspicion towards Damdred, if you read her filter or my post at all. I don't know why you're even defending her when there isn't really anything to defend about it.

I generally dislike bluefishing so that's why I specifically noticed KSC's posts while catching up. I guess I can't really call it as bluefishing though when he almost immediately removed the suggestion.
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
December 09 2014 12:12 GMT
#664
Are you testing me, HF, or do you genuinely think what you wrote there?
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
December 09 2014 12:13 GMT
#665
Because I have some difficulty seeing that coming from you as a fellow town. Help me here.
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
December 09 2014 12:14 GMT
#666
Xatalos shows brains.

##Vote HalftheSky
I had a good night of sleep.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
December 09 2014 12:14 GMT
#667
There's quite a lot of europeans and a lot of americans went to bed so of course a case on mafia bunnies at usa bed time and europe waking up time wouldn't receive much counter pressure. I also still don't see how she shows suspicion of damdred at all? The post you quoted isn't her responding to Damdred? It doesn't show any suspicion of him at all it's a reply to him asking her to explain more reads iirc.

Not saying she can't be mafia but she's voting a good target for good reasons and her posting isn't as horrible as you make it out to be for like 2 hours of gameplay.
LoneMeow
Profile Joined June 2013
Finland1396 Posts
December 09 2014 12:15 GMT
#668
The problem I have with 27ninjabunnies lynch right now is that some of the people on the wagon seem pretty shaky themselves.

Fecalfeast

On December 09 2014 09:12 Fecalfeast wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 09 2014 09:07 Alakaslam wrote:
On December 09 2014 09:03 Fecalfeast wrote:
On December 09 2014 08:59 Alakaslam wrote:
Calvin, Calvin, calvin.

Boobs and full length high heels and Jesus was born in summer

Constant stream of nothing from you after already saying you're doing it for WIFOM. You'll run out of posts very soon at this rate.

Why are you fishing for marley specifically?

Thou'rt thick

あなたは既にルールを破って、リングの外に辞任した。なぜあなたはまだ戦うためにしようとしている

I thought being thick was a prerequisite for sumo.

"You are already breaking the rules , resigned to the outside of the ring . Why are trying to order you still fight"

No rules were established beforehand but if you don't want to fite I wont force you.

I was about to comment on the 27NB post but HF beat me to it. Her 'easy scum read' is in her scum pile because only scum is looking for easy scum reads...


This is the entirety of what he has had to say about 27ninjabunnies who I assume is his best scum read given where his vote is. Most of the filter after this point is setup talk, fluff and claiming talk.

Into the leaning scum pile you go.

The_Templar

I find it hard to understand the exact reasoning why he thinks 27ninjabunnies is scum from the roleplay posts. Can I get an "ELI5" version please? No verdict yet.

Half the Sky

Incredibly sketchy vote with no explanation at all, 30 minutes after she supposedly left the thread?

When directly asked to comment on something 27ninjabunnies has posted, skirts around the issue:
On December 09 2014 09:21 Half the Sky wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 09 2014 09:06 Damdred wrote:
So what is your conclussion? Do you think 27nb is town still even though you understand where HF is coming from? Or are you leaning a different way now?

Also talk about 27nb list post some if you can.

What do you make of the froggy post and vivax?


Damdred, once I read that, I've put her in scumpile for now.

Froggy's post to me is a null, although that sentence is contradictory. I think he was trying to say that policy lynches are stupid in comparison to a scum lynch, and then he says "in the absence of a decent slip." Though poorly worded, I can still understand him and I believe he was the one who said before the game that he was returning here after 2 years ago or something, so I wouldn't blame him for saying that. I cannot comment on how things were 2 years ago as I wasn't around then. What I

Vivax's post is also null to me. Again very straightforward, I don't see any reason to sort him either way.


Would lynch, I think.

sicklucker

Another ninja voter who has not mentioned his current lynch candidate even once!

Outlook not so good.
Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
December 09 2014 12:17 GMT
#669
On December 09 2014 20:57 Holyflare wrote:
Its hardly "vivax has inconsistent reads" like you make it out to be though.

How is there nothing there in bunnies posts???? Are we even reading the same game. At least state why my case/points are wrong before denouncing them based on nothing.

Also in regards to xatalos, bunnies having a 1/4 of the votes doesn't really mean anything and there are people pushing in different directions. This means nothing about bunnies alignment at all though, mafia might not even have a voice in the thread yet so far too much wifom. Your points on hts are... Ehh.. Just not appealing? You pretty much base it all on one post which isn't even that scummy and then say the rest of her posts are fluff but they aren't really in the context, she also has no suspicion of damd and the association of bunnies/hts doesn't apply at all with the evidence.

I also don't know why you even have a kelsier read in your post at all, that looks really out of place.

Vivax defended bunnies then called her scum without referring to his defence of her at all.

You spend like 5 posts talking about how she called someone town but that he did scummy shit. You realise that its not mutually exclusive?

You can do scummy shit and still be town.

Im totes not defending bunnies but there are better people to lynch today.
^^

And seriously so many posts asking people what they think of bunnies.
Its clearly working but its making feel like you dont know what you are doing.
No gg, No skill.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
December 09 2014 12:20 GMT
#670
On December 09 2014 21:17 Oatsmaster wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 09 2014 20:57 Holyflare wrote:
Its hardly "vivax has inconsistent reads" like you make it out to be though.

How is there nothing there in bunnies posts???? Are we even reading the same game. At least state why my case/points are wrong before denouncing them based on nothing.

Also in regards to xatalos, bunnies having a 1/4 of the votes doesn't really mean anything and there are people pushing in different directions. This means nothing about bunnies alignment at all though, mafia might not even have a voice in the thread yet so far too much wifom. Your points on hts are... Ehh.. Just not appealing? You pretty much base it all on one post which isn't even that scummy and then say the rest of her posts are fluff but they aren't really in the context, she also has no suspicion of damd and the association of bunnies/hts doesn't apply at all with the evidence.

I also don't know why you even have a kelsier read in your post at all, that looks really out of place.

Vivax defended bunnies then called her scum without referring to his defence of her at all.

You spend like 5 posts talking about how she called someone town but that he did scummy shit. You realise that its not mutually exclusive?

You can do scummy shit and still be town.

Im totes not defending bunnies but there are better people to lynch today.
^^

And seriously so many posts asking people what they think of bunnies.
Its clearly working but its making feel like you dont know what you are doing.


Are you ignoring the fact that she scum read him too so everything she actually said made absolutely no sense?

Vivax changed his read after she made her list with him as her scum read so I see no problem with it. It's not inconsistent in the slightest.
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
December 09 2014 12:23 GMT
#671
On December 09 2014 21:14 Holyflare wrote:
There's quite a lot of europeans and a lot of americans went to bed so of course a case on mafia bunnies at usa bed time and europe waking up time wouldn't receive much counter pressure. I also still don't see how she shows suspicion of damdred at all? The post you quoted isn't her responding to Damdred? It doesn't show any suspicion of him at all it's a reply to him asking her to explain more reads iirc.

Not saying she can't be mafia but she's voting a good target for good reasons and her posting isn't as horrible as you make it out to be for like 2 hours of gameplay.


Actually, sorry about that last one. Apparently he was talking about 27ninjabunnies in that post. It's still a very non-committal suspicion on someone she already sheepvoted for earlier. It doesn't even feel like she has any confidence in 27ninjabunnies flipping Mafia.

Granted, this point would be stronger if I made it closer to deadline. The Mafia team *could* just be in hiding for now. I still think it's more likely for town to gather a big wagon without any serious competition.
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
GlowingBear
Profile Joined May 2014
Brazil12446 Posts
December 09 2014 12:29 GMT
#672
On December 09 2014 12:31 Holyflare wrote:
You should hop on bunnies after reading my filter and be led to great victory




That strategy. Bunnies flip red, HF confirms himself as town, wins the game as mafia. Lynch both
I'm adorable.
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
December 09 2014 12:29 GMT
#673
Oats, did you see my post? Last post on last page.
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
LoneMeow
Profile Joined June 2013
Finland1396 Posts
December 09 2014 12:31 GMT
#674
On December 09 2014 21:29 GlowingBear wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 09 2014 12:31 Holyflare wrote:
You should hop on bunnies after reading my filter and be led to great victory




That strategy. Bunnies flip red, HF confirms himself as town, wins the game as mafia. Lynch both


Funny, except I wouldn't be surprised if it actually happened, knowing Holyflare :D
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
December 09 2014 12:32 GMT
#675
Well, I guess HF did have a point after all. Though I'd have preferred if Half the Sky had pointed that out herself instead of HF doing it for her.
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
LoneMeow
Profile Joined June 2013
Finland1396 Posts
December 09 2014 12:33 GMT
#676
Xatalos, what do you think about the others on the wagon? Especially the ones I commented.
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
December 09 2014 12:33 GMT
#677
On December 09 2014 21:31 LoneMeow wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 09 2014 21:29 GlowingBear wrote:
On December 09 2014 12:31 Holyflare wrote:
You should hop on bunnies after reading my filter and be led to great victory




That strategy. Bunnies flip red, HF confirms himself as town, wins the game as mafia. Lynch both


Funny, except I wouldn't be surprised if it actually happened, knowing Holyflare :D


Does Holyflare have a history of bussing his teammates as Mafia? (perhaps like me )
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
GlowingBear
Profile Joined May 2014
Brazil12446 Posts
December 09 2014 12:36 GMT
#678
On December 09 2014 20:57 Koshi wrote:
Here are some things I noticed, and now explain using as little words as possible. Getting noticed by me is pretty good. It means you are doing stuff and can call yourself a participant of this game. If you are not in my list and thought you were doing things you didn't do your things correctly.


Ritoky townread for attacking people that think Alakaslam is possible scum. The reason this is towny is because ritoky is lost without his Alakaslam read. And is using this 1 read he has to create more reads. Also his stuff on Lightening is superb.

Kelsier townread for the batsnacks thing. And the rsoultin read.

Templar is paying attention.

Alakaslam keeps slipping that he is a ghost. Probably is.

Damdred actually understands wtf Kelsier was talking about in the post with hts and nb duds. Must be reading the thread.

Holyflare is doing some minor positive things. However, I don’t understand why he protects hts against Kelsier. I don’t understands why he doesn’t push GB after making that observation.

GlowingBear ignored HF when HF called him out. Instead GB asked an incredible dumb question to Damdred. Started the game with drawing attention to him twice. Need to check meta if that is alignment indicative, scum tends to not do that. But meh.

Half the Sky is not reading and thinking, Kelsier was painfully obvious talking about her. Looks like scum being paralyzed by the pressure of replying, and tried to brush the pressure of with the “I know nothing I am from Barcelona” reply. Also, who replies with: “I am also town” at the start of the game. Town shows paranoia early game. Scum doesn’t.

LighteningStrike his list shows that LS is good at knowing who the thread thinks is town. He made a mistake putting OWS on his townlist. FF as well. The mistake is made because he is scum wanting to “contribute” and not only rehearse what is in the thread. Anyway, his townlist was made so that people would like him.

27ninjabunnies is posting horrendous. Please shape up. I can’t even blame people having her as only scumread because her posting is so scummy. Is playing scum 101. People who have experience playing the game would only play this scummy as town not paying attention to their own scumminess. I would still lynch her as a policy lynch. Not acceptable play.

Obiwan might be scum that didn't want to do nothing and then decided to pretend that he was doing something. Sadly for him his pretendcontribution claimed town and now scumObiwan ist just in idgaf doing nothing mode.

Both kita & Vivax going solely after 27nb bores me.


KOSHI!!

"Templar is paying attention" is an awful way to say someone should be in your list.
I'm adorable.
GlowingBear
Profile Joined May 2014
Brazil12446 Posts
December 09 2014 12:38 GMT
#679
On December 09 2014 21:31 LoneMeow wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 09 2014 21:29 GlowingBear wrote:
On December 09 2014 12:31 Holyflare wrote:
You should hop on bunnies after reading my filter and be led to great victory




That strategy. Bunnies flip red, HF confirms himself as town, wins the game as mafia. Lynch both


Funny, except I wouldn't be surprised if it actually happened, knowing Holyflare :D


Hahaha this is totally hearthstone mafia
He went after Tolkien day1 and lynched his teammate.
I'm adorable.
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
December 09 2014 12:40 GMT
#680
On December 09 2014 21:33 LoneMeow wrote:
Xatalos, what do you think about the others on the wagon? Especially the ones I commented.


I think sicklucker is highly likely town. It'd be very weird for scum to claim a role during early D1 without any kind of reason or strategy for doing so. Especially in the manner that he did (confused / almost accidental).

Templar also claimed here:

On December 09 2014 12:21 The_Templar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 09 2014 11:56 sicklucker wrote:
On December 09 2014 09:38 Damdred wrote:
On December 09 2014 09:35 GlowingBear wrote:
On December 09 2014 09:33 Fecalfeast wrote:
On December 09 2014 09:30 KelsierSC wrote:
So i think fecal is scum, we played a game together as town and early game he was very try hard, essentially Kush made a set up/mechanics comment and fecal went back to the setup, worked through all the permutations and then asked Kush to explain. Super town super eager.

this game i make a set up comment, then retract it and ff doesn't bat n eyelid. All he does is talk to slam about sumo. Which is pretty pointless. Like "herez an excuse nit to scumhunt" it doesn't feel towny at all

I don't expect you to have read my other town games but I've gotten exponentially worse as town.

GB do you have a comment on the current votes or discussion?


Nope because I didn't read anything from the thread. Because I'm bored.

Do you?


I am town GB, but i am unable to give you a present currently if you are good i can share one of my many toys later on as when i was a child i was taught to share if i get one that is.

You should really read the thread and are you blue gb seirously/


And yet you missed every single post where I claimed joyful child...


I think that's also more likely a towny claim than a fakeclaim. He did apparently breadcrumb it too, though I couldn't read everything in his posts because they were so long.

Half the Sky's vote is definitely sketchy like I said. Fecalfeast's vote doesn't seem too good either.
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
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