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LoneMeow
Profile Joined June 2013
Finland1396 Posts
December 09 2014 12:42 GMT
#681
On December 09 2014 12:01 GlowingBear wrote:
K gonna sleep

SL is town rsoultin is town
Bats is scummy

I'm going to lynch kush if I don't see his town tell.

Good night.


Did you explain these reads somewhere? I tried looking in your filter but maybe I missed it. Especially interested in hearing why rsoultin is town.
liancourt
Profile Joined September 2014
1563 Posts
December 09 2014 12:46 GMT
#682
+ Show Spoiler +
ninjavote
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
December 09 2014 12:46 GMT
#683
batsnacks also isn't looking good. HF and kita have made some valid points and I wouldn't call them "sketchy".
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
LoneMeow
Profile Joined June 2013
Finland1396 Posts
December 09 2014 12:48 GMT
#684
On December 09 2014 21:40 Xatalos wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 09 2014 21:33 LoneMeow wrote:
Xatalos, what do you think about the others on the wagon? Especially the ones I commented.


I think sicklucker is highly likely town. It'd be very weird for scum to claim a role during early D1 without any kind of reason or strategy for doing so. Especially in the manner that he did (confused / almost accidental).

Templar also claimed here:

Show nested quote +
On December 09 2014 12:21 The_Templar wrote:
On December 09 2014 11:56 sicklucker wrote:
On December 09 2014 09:38 Damdred wrote:
On December 09 2014 09:35 GlowingBear wrote:
On December 09 2014 09:33 Fecalfeast wrote:
On December 09 2014 09:30 KelsierSC wrote:
So i think fecal is scum, we played a game together as town and early game he was very try hard, essentially Kush made a set up/mechanics comment and fecal went back to the setup, worked through all the permutations and then asked Kush to explain. Super town super eager.

this game i make a set up comment, then retract it and ff doesn't bat n eyelid. All he does is talk to slam about sumo. Which is pretty pointless. Like "herez an excuse nit to scumhunt" it doesn't feel towny at all

I don't expect you to have read my other town games but I've gotten exponentially worse as town.

GB do you have a comment on the current votes or discussion?


Nope because I didn't read anything from the thread. Because I'm bored.

Do you?


I am town GB, but i am unable to give you a present currently if you are good i can share one of my many toys later on as when i was a child i was taught to share if i get one that is.

You should really read the thread and are you blue gb seirously/


And yet you missed every single post where I claimed joyful child...


I think that's also more likely a towny claim than a fakeclaim. He did apparently breadcrumb it too, though I couldn't read everything in his posts because they were so long.


Right, the claims. Not sure what to make of that, sicklucker's is probably the easier to believe claim due to the confused way it happened and timing. I don't quite see why The_Templar claimed when he did but the breadcrumbs do make it at least somewhat believeable.

Not lynch targets for D1 anyway I suppose.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
December 09 2014 12:50 GMT
#685
Can the 3rd joyful child claim? I want to see if scum has the balls to counterclaim.

By claiming joyful Templar verified this:
On December 09 2014 11:48 sicklucker wrote:
Oh shit. Ya I missed that part I was fishing and trolling for info on who the other Joyful Child were because I figured only we knew presents were in the game because I missed that part. I thought damdred and gb were the other two, I still kinda think they are oh well. Who wants a present.

Ok so we all know theres 3 presents in the game. But what I know is that its the Joyful Child role that has these presents. No one else can be sure of this as its not said in the description. But Damdred and gb sent out little tells that told me they were this role.I might have been wrong so ill reread it later but I think their the other giftgivers and therefore town.

Also Ive been up 20 hours and dont rly feel like playing much right now but the insomnia might have kicked in.


So can the third joyful claim asap and confirm the bolded.

3 confirmed town is ezpz.
I had a good night of sleep.
LoneMeow
Profile Joined June 2013
Finland1396 Posts
December 09 2014 12:52 GMT
#686
On December 09 2014 21:46 Xatalos wrote:
batsnacks also isn't looking good. HF and kita have made some valid points and I wouldn't call them "sketchy".


I agree about Holyflare and kitaman27 having valid points, although I'm always super paranoid about Holyflare.

The way batsnacks went from Half the Sky to 27ninjabunnies is weird, but I find it hard to believe scum would risk doing such 180 changes of direction instead of going for something safer.
Half the Sky
Profile Joined May 2014
Germany9029 Posts
December 09 2014 12:52 GMT
#687
Xatalos, first, as explained, that first post I made towards bunnies was 1) before I read the trouble she'd gotten herself into, which I already admitted and 2) being the only other female in a male-dominated field, regardless of whatever roles we were, I thought it was cool to find another girl here. If you want to discuss usefulness of posts, that's fine, but there are a few others in the thread with far more fluff to start the game, as you put it.

Bunnies herself had more fluff at the very beginning of this thread (pages 16-17) and the whole Nicki Minaj thing on Ritoky followed by her vote on him is just...I mean if that's based on meta, I cannot tell that it is. I'm going to assume it's a joke vote, otherwise I cannot follow why she is voting him. Even worse, you look at her D1 list, she's voted Ritoky and she doesn't even scumlist him or change her vote before she leaves?

The rest of the posts are answers to questions, mostly by Damdred. Since you don't know me, this is my second game ever, first normal on TLM (thus unprepared for how quickly the thread took off) and I even told Damdred I had to keep reading other's posts to answer his questions on my reads.

Also where are you getting that I am suspecting Damdred? I even said later on he was reading town. The third post you cited (lot of reads for this early D1) was in reference to bunnies' list of D1 reads, which seemed like a lot to me given she was posting under pressure and it was so early in D1. My citing Kita was because calling him iffy for just saying hi seems like a stretch. Damdred asked me to discuss 27NB's list, so that's exactly what I did.

I was asked for reads on Froggy and Vivax and I was doing reads on multiple others at the same time.

LoneMeow: I did not skirt the issue. I broke up my response in two parts. First post was the reads on Froggy and Vivax. Second was a response regarding the 27NB's list of reads.

Also, the game started at 11pm GMT, and it was 1:30am when I went to bed with work at 8am. If I could have stayed up until 3-4am GMT to keep sorting things out, I would have.

I fell behind on the thread, which I've done some further catching up on just now.
The phoenix must burn to emerge. - Janet Fitch
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
December 09 2014 12:53 GMT
#688
3 people have already claimed joyful but is there only 3?

Damd
Sl
Templar

Shouldn't be claiming these anyway because of game mechanics.
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
December 09 2014 12:53 GMT
#689
Damdred also claimed here:

On December 09 2014 12:02 Damdred wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 09 2014 11:48 sicklucker wrote:
Oh shit. Ya I missed that part I was fishing and trolling for info on who the other Joyful Child were because I figured only we knew presents were in the game because I missed that part. I thought damdred and gb were the other two, I still kinda think they are oh well. Who wants a present.

Ok so we all know theres 3 presents in the game. But what I know is that its the Joyful Child role that has these presents. No one else can be sure of this as its not said in the description. But Damdred and gb sent out little tells that told me they were this role.I might have been wrong so ill reread it later but I think their the other giftgivers and therefore town.

Also Ive been up 20 hours and dont rly feel like playing much right now but the insomnia might have kicked in.


SL did notice my role droppings in the thread, I applaud that.

However I do not have a present to give, I think its random who gets them i'm just a named VT . However if i get a present i might pass it to someone or open it we will see.

"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
December 09 2014 12:57 GMT
#690
I really dont know man Xata, her tone seems pretty happy and alright.

Meh, not making a read now on her.

Hey Holyflare, that is completely true on Vivax.
However, bunnies didnt explain shit on her change which makes me think it is really bad. So too scum to be scum.

Vivax's reasons for Bunnies scum are weak though, looks exactly like what he said bunnies was doing.
No gg, No skill.
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
December 09 2014 12:57 GMT
#691
On December 09 2014 21:50 Koshi wrote:
Can the 3rd joyful child claim? I want to see if scum has the balls to counterclaim.

By claiming joyful Templar verified this:
Show nested quote +
On December 09 2014 11:48 sicklucker wrote:
Oh shit. Ya I missed that part I was fishing and trolling for info on who the other Joyful Child were because I figured only we knew presents were in the game because I missed that part. I thought damdred and gb were the other two, I still kinda think they are oh well. Who wants a present.

Ok so we all know theres 3 presents in the game. But what I know is that its the Joyful Child role that has these presents. No one else can be sure of this as its not said in the description. But Damdred and gb sent out little tells that told me they were this role.I might have been wrong so ill reread it later but I think their the other giftgivers and therefore town.

Also Ive been up 20 hours and dont rly feel like playing much right now but the insomnia might have kicked in.


So can the third joyful claim asap and confirm the bolded.

3 confirmed town is ezpz.


Really? Just...really? First, SL is a nincompoop, though well-meaning. Second, Damdred clearly in his droppings was asking for presents long before he actually said that he didn't have any. Third, they're random. Mod even came back in to say they were random. Random, random, random.

The dumb here is stifling.

OWS anyone? Or we gonna waste our time on ninja and HTS some more?
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
December 09 2014 13:00 GMT
#692
On December 09 2014 21:57 rsoultin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 09 2014 21:50 Koshi wrote:
Can the 3rd joyful child claim? I want to see if scum has the balls to counterclaim.

By claiming joyful Templar verified this:
On December 09 2014 11:48 sicklucker wrote:
Oh shit. Ya I missed that part I was fishing and trolling for info on who the other Joyful Child were because I figured only we knew presents were in the game because I missed that part. I thought damdred and gb were the other two, I still kinda think they are oh well. Who wants a present.

Ok so we all know theres 3 presents in the game. But what I know is that its the Joyful Child role that has these presents. No one else can be sure of this as its not said in the description. But Damdred and gb sent out little tells that told me they were this role.I might have been wrong so ill reread it later but I think their the other giftgivers and therefore town.

Also Ive been up 20 hours and dont rly feel like playing much right now but the insomnia might have kicked in.


So can the third joyful claim asap and confirm the bolded.

3 confirmed town is ezpz.


Really? Just...really? First, SL is a nincompoop, though well-meaning. Second, Damdred clearly in his droppings was asking for presents long before he actually said that he didn't have any. Third, they're random. Mod even came back in to say they were random. Random, random, random.

The dumb here is stifling.

OWS anyone? Or we gonna waste our time on ninja and HTS some more?

Nope not OWS.
Vivax.
Explain why pls.
No gg, No skill.
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
December 09 2014 13:01 GMT
#693
Also, just because I feel we keep ignoring dumb.

Liancourt, wtf? Spoilers with nonsense? Care to join us sometime today?
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
Half the Sky
Profile Joined May 2014
Germany9029 Posts
December 09 2014 13:01 GMT
#694
I also asked KelsierSC first thing last night to explain his logic for asking Scrooge to claim, he then acknowledged that he made a mistake in asking to claim, now I see that Kushm4sta has claimed scrooge.

On December 09 2014 17:58 kushm4sta wrote:
k ill trust whoever said scrooge should claim because that's the easier option for me.

im scrooge.


Kush appears too experienced a player for this knowing the game mechanics (Marley, if he exists, goes through any protection) so assuming he's not Scrooge, why did he roleclaim? I'm not following.
The phoenix must burn to emerge. - Janet Fitch
Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
December 09 2014 13:01 GMT
#695
Its not a bad lynch.
No gg, No skill.
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
December 09 2014 13:02 GMT
#696
On December 09 2014 21:52 Half the Sky wrote:
Xatalos, first, as explained, that first post I made towards bunnies was 1) before I read the trouble she'd gotten herself into, which I already admitted and 2) being the only other female in a male-dominated field, regardless of whatever roles we were, I thought it was cool to find another girl here. If you want to discuss usefulness of posts, that's fine, but there are a few others in the thread with far more fluff to start the game, as you put it.

Bunnies herself had more fluff at the very beginning of this thread (pages 16-17) and the whole Nicki Minaj thing on Ritoky followed by her vote on him is just...I mean if that's based on meta, I cannot tell that it is. I'm going to assume it's a joke vote, otherwise I cannot follow why she is voting him. Even worse, you look at her D1 list, she's voted Ritoky and she doesn't even scumlist him or change her vote before she leaves?

The rest of the posts are answers to questions, mostly by Damdred. Since you don't know me, this is my second game ever, first normal on TLM (thus unprepared for how quickly the thread took off) and I even told Damdred I had to keep reading other's posts to answer his questions on my reads.

Also where are you getting that I am suspecting Damdred? I even said later on he was reading town. The third post you cited (lot of reads for this early D1) was in reference to bunnies' list of D1 reads, which seemed like a lot to me given she was posting under pressure and it was so early in D1. My citing Kita was because calling him iffy for just saying hi seems like a stretch. Damdred asked me to discuss 27NB's list, so that's exactly what I did.

I was asked for reads on Froggy and Vivax and I was doing reads on multiple others at the same time.

LoneMeow: I did not skirt the issue. I broke up my response in two parts. First post was the reads on Froggy and Vivax. Second was a response regarding the 27NB's list of reads.

Also, the game started at 11pm GMT, and it was 1:30am when I went to bed with work at 8am. If I could have stayed up until 3-4am GMT to keep sorting things out, I would have.

I fell behind on the thread, which I've done some further catching up on just now.


Indeed, HF already pointed out that you weren't talking about Damdred there. It was my bad since I just assumed you were talking about him when you started with "Damdred, about that listpost...". I was also confused by the fact that Damdred made a listpost somewhere around that time as well.

I agree that 27ninjabunnies doesn't look good. She also does have more fluff than you. Fluff in itself isn't so bad though, in my opinion. What I was more concerned about is that your posts seem to maintain some appearance of relevance without really having much (if any), whereas 27ninjabunnies has more fluff that's clearly just useless. Generally I've noticed that Mafia tend to make posts more along the lines of your posting style.

Well, since you're here, why not share your reads? What do you think of players other than 27ninjabunnies?
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
December 09 2014 13:02 GMT
#697
Its not the best lynch.

liancourt pls.

Give a reason HTS why kush claimed.
Come on, try.
No gg, No skill.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
December 09 2014 13:03 GMT
#698
I also think bats is relatively not scummy at the present moment because he dropped everything after he was proven wrong and just sheeped me instead which is in fact townyish.

Would lynch: bunnies, kush, (oats?), (ls?), obi.

Still deciding on brackets. Subject to change on a few too. Full list later though, will be home at night and can write longer posts. Keep wasting posts on random crap and I'm almost at 4 pages -.-

Bunnies : what I've been saying
Kush: useless vote, useless scrooge post, afking and not caring about the game
Oats: talked about vivax but was completely wrong about it/bunnies
Ls: lots of town reads little justification, rito/kelsier points
Obi: bleh
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
December 09 2014 13:03 GMT
#699
On December 09 2014 22:00 Oatsmaster wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 09 2014 21:57 rsoultin wrote:
On December 09 2014 21:50 Koshi wrote:
Can the 3rd joyful child claim? I want to see if scum has the balls to counterclaim.

By claiming joyful Templar verified this:
On December 09 2014 11:48 sicklucker wrote:
Oh shit. Ya I missed that part I was fishing and trolling for info on who the other Joyful Child were because I figured only we knew presents were in the game because I missed that part. I thought damdred and gb were the other two, I still kinda think they are oh well. Who wants a present.

Ok so we all know theres 3 presents in the game. But what I know is that its the Joyful Child role that has these presents. No one else can be sure of this as its not said in the description. But Damdred and gb sent out little tells that told me they were this role.I might have been wrong so ill reread it later but I think their the other giftgivers and therefore town.

Also Ive been up 20 hours and dont rly feel like playing much right now but the insomnia might have kicked in.


So can the third joyful claim asap and confirm the bolded.

3 confirmed town is ezpz.


Really? Just...really? First, SL is a nincompoop, though well-meaning. Second, Damdred clearly in his droppings was asking for presents long before he actually said that he didn't have any. Third, they're random. Mod even came back in to say they were random. Random, random, random.

The dumb here is stifling.

OWS anyone? Or we gonna waste our time on ninja and HTS some more?

Nope not OWS.
Vivax.
Explain why pls.


Don't care about vivax. Or ninja. Or HTS. Null reads at best while y'all nitpick them to death. Maybe good for later, but unless y'all are seeing something I'm not, as Day 1 lynches...tch.
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
December 09 2014 13:04 GMT
#700
On December 09 2014 22:01 Half the Sky wrote:
I also asked KelsierSC first thing last night to explain his logic for asking Scrooge to claim, he then acknowledged that he made a mistake in asking to claim, now I see that Kushm4sta has claimed scrooge.

Show nested quote +
On December 09 2014 17:58 kushm4sta wrote:
k ill trust whoever said scrooge should claim because that's the easier option for me.

im scrooge.


Kush appears too experienced a player for this knowing the game mechanics (Marley, if he exists, goes through any protection) so assuming he's not Scrooge, why did he roleclaim? I'm not following.


Probably a joke. I hope.
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
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