EPTTL Mafia LXIX: Carol Of The Bells - Page 33
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Oatsmaster
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KelsierSC
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KelsierSC
United Kingdom10443 Posts
On December 09 2014 19:04 Oatsmaster wrote: btw vivax is scum if you don't do anything at all except say things like "wow thread is long" don't be surprised if no one gives a shit about your one liners. explain read | ||
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marvellosity
United Kingdom36160 Posts
ritoky (2): 27ninjabunnies, kushm4sta 27ninjabunnies (7): KelsierSC (0): Half the Sky (0): The_Templar (1): GlowingBear sicklucker (1): ObiWanShinobi (1): rsoultin Currently 27ninjabunnies is set to be lynched. Ages until deadline. | ||
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ritoky
United States6851 Posts
On December 09 2014 17:58 kushm4sta wrote: k ill trust whoever said scrooge should claim because that's the easier option for me. im scrooge. good for you, you got a ninja vote dat need splainin. | ||
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liancourt
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do you want to build a snowman? ...ok bye | ||
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GlowingBear
Brazil12446 Posts
On December 09 2014 12:43 LightningStrike wrote: I looked GB past games and he seemed to town aligned this game and Slam isn't posting stuff like he did when he was scum in the Titanic Game. Can you link us the games where I'm playing like this? | ||
Fecalfeast
Canada11355 Posts
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Palmar
Iceland22632 Posts
Passing presents is a DAY action. It is a mandatory action (Gift will be RNGd if no target is selected). Opening a present is a NIGHT action. If not opened the holder must then pass it the following day. This means that the people who randomly received the presents today, will not get a chance to open them. Also, all aspects of the gift giving process is anonymous. They cannot be tracked, watched, roleblocked, and no one is ever notified of anything except receiving a gift. | ||
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ritoky
United States6851 Posts
On December 09 2014 19:43 Fecalfeast wrote: Haha i hadn't read your post ritoky go me. Why do you care so much what i read you? first, i don't believe this in the slightest. second, you sheeped my read almost exactly; which would indicate to me that you have a town read on me to some degree, but you never mentioned me. so i asked, and you apparently don't even though you're basically word for word in agreement with me. you can go sell that dumb tell, i didn't read the thread crap somewhere else; i don't buy wolf tickets. FF and LS top 2 scum so far. | ||
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Oatsmaster
United States16628 Posts
On December 09 2014 08:35 Vivax wrote: What froggy said is simple common sense but also something that never matters cause at the end of the day it's mostly some scummy looking person getting lynched. I don't see it as scummy, just as something useless to talk about which isn't scummy at this stage of the game. The biggest accusation you could make is that he's so serious in a setting where people are kinda joking, but that's not enough to go with in my book. It's more like he's annoyed that people are discussing policies when in past games it always led to that statement of his making the most sense. Null for me. Completely unnecessary defence of someone that isnt even close to being a top thread target. And its a decent amount into the game so i would expect a better opening post since he clearly thought something. | ||
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Oatsmaster
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Oatsmaster
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Holyflare
United Kingdom30774 Posts
Also like the (ritoky?) post about ls having quite a lot of unsubstantiated town reads, and not questioning people based on them bla bla post but more so coupled with what kelsier said Kush could absolutely be mafia at this point of time On December 09 2014 15:43 Damdred wrote: Said its a weak scum read in the post. votes an hour later? No reap thoughts? I told him to read my filter and sheep me. Can only assume that's what he did. | ||
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Xatalos
Finland9675 Posts
On December 09 2014 08:46 KelsierSC wrote: So i have noticed something with this set up. If you are scrooge just claim. On December 09 2014 08:55 KelsierSC wrote: Ah ignore my scrooge comment i misread one of the roles Something like this is really dangerous to say because it might actually out the blue role in the worst case. And the fast backtrack indicates that there wasn't any real thought behind this "plan". However, it appears that it was just a reaction test: On December 09 2014 09:33 Fecalfeast wrote: I don't expect you to have read my other town games but I've gotten exponentially worse as town. GB do you have a comment on the current votes or discussion? It actually seems like KSC could believe what he's saying here. The way he goes after Fecalfeast after executing his "master plan" feels genuine enough. So I'd tentatively put KSC in the town camp. I sure hope that Mafia didn't somehow find the Scrooge because of this though. Moving on to more pressing issues, there's Half the Sky. Her posting has been somewhat suspicious from the very first post: On December 09 2014 08:52 Half the Sky wrote: Greetings everyone! 27NB, I'm also female, join the club and I drew town as well, so victory together! Good luck and have fun with your date. As for me, well, shopping for my significant other is done and dusted. Some years it's easier than others. Kelsier, can you please explain the Scrooge claim post? Agreed with HF, what are you seeing in this? It's almost a template Mafia first post. The first paragraph is purely focused on making friends and blending in ("you're town, I'm town, let's not lynch each other!"). As a minor point it's somewhat suspicious that she's immediately referring to another player as town. That would only truly make sense if Half the Sky is Mafia and 27ninjabunnies is town. The second paragraph is just fluff. The third paragraph merely asks some meekly toned questions without much apparent thought behind them (there's even another buddying attempt towards HF included). What's worse, I can't find anything related to these questions from her after her first post. Even though she responded to posts from KSC soon after. All in all: a completely useless post that appears somewhat useful, but in fact only furthers Mafia agenda (blending in, survival, gaining influence). Her following posts are mostly fluff (bad in itself when there's a post limit) or reactive answers to pressure. As she got some slight pressure on herself, she soon sheeped onto 27ninjabunnies (the easiest target) as her target: On December 09 2014 09:21 Half the Sky wrote: Damdred, once I read that, I've put her in scumpile for now. Froggy's post to me is a null, although that sentence is contradictory. I think he was trying to say that policy lynches are stupid in comparison to a scum lynch, and then he says "in the absence of a decent slip." Though poorly worded, I can still understand him and I believe he was the one who said before the game that he was returning here after 2 years ago or something, so I wouldn't blame him for saying that. I cannot comment on how things were 2 years ago as I wasn't around then. What I Vivax's post is also null to me. Again very straightforward, I don't see any reason to sort him either way. Then a very non-committal suspicion on Damdred: On December 09 2014 09:25 Half the Sky wrote: Damdred, regarding the list post...honestly that's a lot of reads for this early D1. For now though, take what I say on that with a grain of salt because I have not looked at too many of the people's posts she listed except Templar's story, etc. I mean calling Kita iffy for just saying hey? Hmmmm....what is the norm for him? That seems odd at face value, and not knowing him at all. That's basically the extent of her contributions. I'd say that her posts so far have been mostly wasted fluff posts and some of them are actually pushing Mafia agenda (blending in, trying to appear useful without actually doing anything, and lastly spreading some very weak suspicion onto Damdred). So I think Half the Sky is quite likely Mafia here and seems like our best D1 lynch. ##Vote Half the Sky Regarding 27ninjabunnies, there are two reasons that make me think she might be town: 1) She easily gathered a ton of votes and the rest of the votes have been scattered around everywhere. This makes me think that the Mafia team is supporting her lynch or at the very least content with it. If that wasn't the case, I think her wagon would have been a bit weaker or at least there would be a competing wagon. Right now it just looks like 27ninjabunnies is heading to be lynched and the Mafia team is happy / doesn't care about it. 2) If Half the Sky is Mafia, I feel it's quite unlikely that 27ninjabunnies is Mafia as well. Pre-flip association, I know, but I don't think scum Half the Sky would easily pile on a scum 27ninjabunnies wagon or that she would first start casually discussing with 27ninjabunnies and refer to her as town. So I don't really think 27ninjabunnies is a good lynch for these reasons. Another Mafia candidate I feel would be LightningStrike. This is basically her whole contribution so far and it's a pretty useless listpost: On December 09 2014 11:42 LightningStrike wrote: I just got back and here my current reads Town: HF,Templar, OWS, Slam, Damdred, rsoultin, FF Null: 27ninja, HTS, Ritoky Scum: sicklucker sicklucker doesn't seem like he normal town self for this type of game with the post limit and he just throwing a lot of fluff more than anything trying to get the limit early I need more posts from 27ninja and Ritoky to confirm which side they on HTS doesn't seem like himself idk why I feel like that. As soon more people post in the game I will make more reads to add the people. sicklucker is the main scumread and the reasoning for that is very, very weak. Not to mention there are many townreads without any reasoning whatsoever. About this #PresentGate... sicklucker seems very town from his confused claim. I don't think I've ever seen Mafia claim their role early on D1, especially in such a badly executed manner. | ||
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Oatsmaster
United States16628 Posts
On December 09 2014 20:41 Holyflare wrote: That vivax post was at a perfectly normal time on someone that was the thread focus/part of a thread focus. It also happens at the same time as the bunnies posts so I have no idea how you don't know what's happening with bunnies Also like the (ritoky?) post about ls having quite a lot of unsubstantiated town reads, and not questioning people based on them bla bla post but more so coupled with what kelsier said Kush could absolutely be mafia at this point of time I told him to read my filter and sheep me. Can only assume that's what he did. I read bunnies posts, there is NOTHING THERE HOLYFLARE> Also, that wasnt quite my point, my point was that there wasnt so much suspcion on him that it warrented any kinda reasonable defence. And for a first post? Bad. | ||
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Oatsmaster
United States16628 Posts
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Holyflare
United Kingdom30774 Posts
How is there nothing there in bunnies posts???? Are we even reading the same game. At least state why my case/points are wrong before denouncing them based on nothing. Also in regards to xatalos, bunnies having a 1/4 of the votes doesn't really mean anything and there are people pushing in different directions. This means nothing about bunnies alignment at all though, mafia might not even have a voice in the thread yet so far too much wifom. Your points on hts are... Ehh.. Just not appealing? You pretty much base it all on one post which isn't even that scummy and then say the rest of her posts are fluff but they aren't really in the context, she also has no suspicion of damd and the association of bunnies/hts doesn't apply at all with the evidence. I also don't know why you even have a kelsier read in your post at all, that looks really out of place. | ||
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Koshi
Belgium38799 Posts
Ritoky townread for attacking people that think Alakaslam is possible scum. The reason this is towny is because ritoky is lost without his Alakaslam read. And is using this 1 read he has to create more reads. Also his stuff on Lightening is superb. Kelsier townread for the batsnacks thing. And the rsoultin read. Templar is paying attention. Alakaslam keeps slipping that he is a ghost. Probably is. Damdred actually understands wtf Kelsier was talking about in the post with hts and nb duds. Must be reading the thread. Holyflare is doing some minor positive things. However, I don’t understand why he protects hts against Kelsier. I don’t understands why he doesn’t push GB after making that observation. GlowingBear ignored HF when HF called him out. Instead GB asked an incredible dumb question to Damdred. Started the game with drawing attention to him twice. Need to check meta if that is alignment indicative, scum tends to not do that. But meh. Half the Sky is not reading and thinking, Kelsier was painfully obvious talking about her. Looks like scum being paralyzed by the pressure of replying, and tried to brush the pressure of with the “I know nothing I am from Barcelona” reply. Also, who replies with: “I am also town” at the start of the game. Town shows paranoia early game. Scum doesn’t. LighteningStrike his list shows that LS is good at knowing who the thread thinks is town. He made a mistake putting OWS on his townlist. FF as well. The mistake is made because he is scum wanting to “contribute” and not only rehearse what is in the thread. Anyway, his townlist was made so that people would like him. 27ninjabunnies is posting horrendous. Please shape up. I can’t even blame people having her as only scumread because her posting is so scummy. Is playing scum 101. People who have experience playing the game would only play this scummy as town not paying attention to their own scumminess. I would still lynch her as a policy lynch. Not acceptable play. Obiwan might be scum that didn't want to do nothing and then decided to pretend that he was doing something. Sadly for him his pretendcontribution claimed town and now scumObiwan ist just in idgaf doing nothing mode. Both kita & Vivax going solely after 27nb bores me. | ||
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Xatalos
Finland9675 Posts
On December 09 2014 20:56 Oatsmaster wrote: Yeah Xata, lightning could be scum. What do you think about Half the Sky though? I think Lightning is closer to null than Half the Sky. By the way, I don't like Vivax's filter too much either. I hope he makes a great comeback if he's town. | ||
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