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ritoky
Profile Joined March 2011
United States6851 Posts
December 09 2014 13:41 GMT
#721
On December 09 2014 22:30 LightningStrike wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 09 2014 22:14 LoneMeow wrote:
LightningStrike, a bunch of stuff has happened since you posted your list post with reads, care to share some updated reads with us now?

Well not much of my reads did change as I did read the thread from where we were last night compared to today and it been mostly the same stuff as why I given them their original reads


Oh really? well let's wait for your one scum read then

On December 09 2014 22:26 LightningStrike wrote:
Since people were asking for my explanation why certain people are town in my eyes here they are atm
HF: He seemed to start a discussion and tried to move people in a town direction to get scum.
Templar: He may have a silly story telling but inside it he seemed to be town but it just my inexperience playing with him that might fool me.
OWS: I played with him once in Campus Mafia only and he had to replace someone and he seemed to post similar to how he replaced the person in that game.
Slam: Slam posting is completely different when he played scum in Titanic Mafia so I confident he is town this game.
Damdred: Damdred is also trying to lead the discussions with HF which normally a Scum wouldn't do so I got him on my list for that.
rsoultin: Newer player to this site and only played with him once but he was town and he seemed to act the same way he did when he was town.
FF: He doing similar shenanigans as he did in Campus Mafia when he was town when I played with him so I trust he is town atm.
Now for my null reads
27ninja: Something seems fishy with him but I can't explain it but at the same time I cant put in town unless I get more posts from him.
HTS: Doesn't seem like himself when he was townie in a game and I can't really put him on the scum atm because he might be more conservative for this game than in his last game.
Ritoky: I never played with him before so I trying to still figure him out but he seemed to question more on people voting than leading anything.
Now for my scumlist
sicklucker: Normally sicklucker likes to do weird shenanigans to force everyones town read that are normally awkward and this game he doesn't seem to be doing that.


your reads:
HF- obvious read that everyone is making
Templar - trying to noob claim
OWS - meta
Slam - meta in a game you didn't even play
Damdred - fine enough
rsoultin - meta
FF - meta
27nb - non-committal
HTS - meta
ritoky - wait and see

and then there's sicklucker....you say he hasn't done weird shenanigans, but he literally HAS DONE THOSE THINGS. like this is just a straight lie. if you actually were following the thread you should have very clearly read that he did the things that you should have town read him for. that has clearly changed since your original post, so why hasn't your read?

like your reads are crap, they are primarily meta, they have 0 content, 1 is a straight up lie, and they are stagnant even though a whole lot has happened. i just really cannot believe that this is in any way a town perspective.

##vote: LightningStrike
“When interest is at variance with conscience, any distinction to make them friends will serve the hollow-hearted.” -Henry Home
Half the Sky
Profile Joined May 2014
Germany9029 Posts
December 09 2014 13:42 GMT
#722
On December 09 2014 22:23 Xatalos wrote:
Half the Sky: do you have other scumreads besides 27ninjabunnies?


Yes, I do.

My town reads seem very straightforward from everyone I've evaluated last night: Holyflare, Rasputin (rsoultin), Damdred, kitaman27 (who seems to be picking apart things as he should), you also appear to be doing the same atm.

Null - Froggy (one post discussing policy and that's it), Bats (retracted his previous argument as others had the same opinion), Vivax (talking about Froggy)

Null leaning scum - OWS - don't understand his posts, the SL lynch posts I believe were because SL was posting one-liner fluff but after that it was all one word posts.

Scum - 27NB and Kush for reasons I've explained.

I have to look into GlowingBear and Templar and a few others more. LS was null prior to his latest post updated with reads.

The phoenix must burn to emerge. - Janet Fitch
LightningStrike
Profile Joined February 2011
United States14277 Posts
December 09 2014 13:43 GMT
#723
On December 09 2014 22:38 LoneMeow wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 09 2014 22:26 LightningStrike wrote:
FF: He doing similar shenanigans as he did in Campus Mafia when he was town when I played with him so I trust he is town atm.


Since we clearly disagree about Fecalfeast, would you comment on my quite opposite read on him? You don't find it strange at all that he's hardly mentioned the player he's voting at all?

Show nested quote +
On December 09 2014 22:26 LightningStrike wrote:
Now for my scumlist
sicklucker: Normally sicklucker likes to do weird shenanigans to force everyones town read that are normally awkward and this game he doesn't seem to be doing that.


Also, since you're still calling sicklucker your only scum read I assume you don't buy his claim?




How strong are these town reads? Can you put them in order from strongest to weakest? Would anything change if I told you to completely ignore meta and only make reads based on this game?

Strongest to Weakest in order
HF
Damdred
OWS
FF
rsoultin
Slam
Templar
Also I not buying sicklucker claim because he doesn't seem to be himself on making weird shenanigans early in the game which he does when he was Vanilla Town.
May the next light shine/Former #1 Alliance LoL fan/ Current Teamliquid LoL Fan
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
December 09 2014 13:43 GMT
#724
On December 09 2014 22:39 LightningStrike wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 09 2014 22:37 Xatalos wrote:
On December 09 2014 22:30 LightningStrike wrote:
On December 09 2014 22:14 LoneMeow wrote:
LightningStrike, a bunch of stuff has happened since you posted your list post with reads, care to share some updated reads with us now?

Well not much of my reads did change as I did read the thread from where we were last night compared to today and it been mostly the same stuff as why I given them their original reads


Didn't you think anything of sicklucker's claim?

I did but it doesn't make sense though the way he acting though and when I played with him he was Vanilla town in the games I played with him when he had these weird shenanigans but I not seeing this game. This doesn't seem be the sicklucker I know.


So you're... not buying his claim because he's only been VT in your games with him? Or what?
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
December 09 2014 13:43 GMT
#725
On December 09 2014 22:03 Holyflare wrote:
I also think bats is relatively not scummy at the present moment because he dropped everything after he was proven wrong and just sheeped me instead which is in fact townyish.

Would lynch: bunnies, kush, (oats?), (ls?), obi.

Still deciding on brackets. Subject to change on a few too. Full list later though, will be home at night and can write longer posts. Keep wasting posts on random crap and I'm almost at 4 pages -.-

Bunnies : what I've been saying
Kush: useless vote, useless scrooge post, afking and not caring about the game
Oats: talked about vivax but was completely wrong about it/bunnies
Ls: lots of town reads little justification, rito/kelsier points
Obi: bleh

No are you even reading?
No gg, No skill.
Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
December 09 2014 13:45 GMT
#726
On December 09 2014 22:41 ritoky wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 09 2014 22:30 LightningStrike wrote:
On December 09 2014 22:14 LoneMeow wrote:
LightningStrike, a bunch of stuff has happened since you posted your list post with reads, care to share some updated reads with us now?

Well not much of my reads did change as I did read the thread from where we were last night compared to today and it been mostly the same stuff as why I given them their original reads


Oh really? well let's wait for your one scum read then

Show nested quote +
On December 09 2014 22:26 LightningStrike wrote:
Since people were asking for my explanation why certain people are town in my eyes here they are atm
HF: He seemed to start a discussion and tried to move people in a town direction to get scum.
Templar: He may have a silly story telling but inside it he seemed to be town but it just my inexperience playing with him that might fool me.
OWS: I played with him once in Campus Mafia only and he had to replace someone and he seemed to post similar to how he replaced the person in that game.
Slam: Slam posting is completely different when he played scum in Titanic Mafia so I confident he is town this game.
Damdred: Damdred is also trying to lead the discussions with HF which normally a Scum wouldn't do so I got him on my list for that.
rsoultin: Newer player to this site and only played with him once but he was town and he seemed to act the same way he did when he was town.
FF: He doing similar shenanigans as he did in Campus Mafia when he was town when I played with him so I trust he is town atm.
Now for my null reads
27ninja: Something seems fishy with him but I can't explain it but at the same time I cant put in town unless I get more posts from him.
HTS: Doesn't seem like himself when he was townie in a game and I can't really put him on the scum atm because he might be more conservative for this game than in his last game.
Ritoky: I never played with him before so I trying to still figure him out but he seemed to question more on people voting than leading anything.
Now for my scumlist
sicklucker: Normally sicklucker likes to do weird shenanigans to force everyones town read that are normally awkward and this game he doesn't seem to be doing that.


your reads:
HF- obvious read that everyone is making
Templar - trying to noob claim
OWS - meta
Slam - meta in a game you didn't even play
Damdred - fine enough
rsoultin - meta
FF - meta
27nb - non-committal
HTS - meta
ritoky - wait and see

and then there's sicklucker....you say he hasn't done weird shenanigans, but he literally HAS DONE THOSE THINGS. like this is just a straight lie. if you actually were following the thread you should have very clearly read that he did the things that you should have town read him for. that has clearly changed since your original post, so why hasn't your read?

like your reads are crap, they are primarily meta, they have 0 content, 1 is a straight up lie, and they are stagnant even though a whole lot has happened. i just really cannot believe that this is in any way a town perspective.

##vote: LightningStrike

Thats how he plays man.
Did you check his meta?

No gg, No skill.
ritoky
Profile Joined March 2011
United States6851 Posts
December 09 2014 13:45 GMT
#727
On December 09 2014 22:42 Half the Sky wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 09 2014 22:23 Xatalos wrote:
Half the Sky: do you have other scumreads besides 27ninjabunnies?


Yes, I do.

My town reads seem very straightforward from everyone I've evaluated last night: Holyflare, Rasputin (rsoultin), Damdred, kitaman27 (who seems to be picking apart things as he should), you also appear to be doing the same atm.

Null - Froggy (one post discussing policy and that's it), Bats (retracted his previous argument as others had the same opinion), Vivax (talking about Froggy)

Null leaning scum - OWS - don't understand his posts, the SL lynch posts I believe were because SL was posting one-liner fluff but after that it was all one word posts.

Scum - 27NB and Kush for reasons I've explained.

I have to look into GlowingBear and Templar and a few others more. LS was null prior to his latest post updated with reads.



What's the point of including this guy in your null section, but not...say...me? or liancourt? or koshi? like....why is he there?

maybe i need to sleep, but that is weird as hell to me.
“When interest is at variance with conscience, any distinction to make them friends will serve the hollow-hearted.” -Henry Home
liancourt
Profile Joined September 2014
1563 Posts
December 09 2014 13:45 GMT
#728
+ Show Spoiler +
i thought this was going to be a light game with post restrictions.
LoneMeow
Profile Joined June 2013
Finland1396 Posts
December 09 2014 13:46 GMT
#729
On December 09 2014 22:45 liancourt wrote:
+ Show Spoiler +
i thought this was going to be a light game with post restrictions.

+ Show Spoiler +
Would you care to stop being annoying and start participating?
LightningStrike
Profile Joined February 2011
United States14277 Posts
December 09 2014 13:46 GMT
#730
On December 09 2014 22:41 ritoky wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 09 2014 22:30 LightningStrike wrote:
On December 09 2014 22:14 LoneMeow wrote:
LightningStrike, a bunch of stuff has happened since you posted your list post with reads, care to share some updated reads with us now?

Well not much of my reads did change as I did read the thread from where we were last night compared to today and it been mostly the same stuff as why I given them their original reads


Oh really? well let's wait for your one scum read then

Show nested quote +
On December 09 2014 22:26 LightningStrike wrote:
Since people were asking for my explanation why certain people are town in my eyes here they are atm
HF: He seemed to start a discussion and tried to move people in a town direction to get scum.
Templar: He may have a silly story telling but inside it he seemed to be town but it just my inexperience playing with him that might fool me.
OWS: I played with him once in Campus Mafia only and he had to replace someone and he seemed to post similar to how he replaced the person in that game.
Slam: Slam posting is completely different when he played scum in Titanic Mafia so I confident he is town this game.
Damdred: Damdred is also trying to lead the discussions with HF which normally a Scum wouldn't do so I got him on my list for that.
rsoultin: Newer player to this site and only played with him once but he was town and he seemed to act the same way he did when he was town.
FF: He doing similar shenanigans as he did in Campus Mafia when he was town when I played with him so I trust he is town atm.
Now for my null reads
27ninja: Something seems fishy with him but I can't explain it but at the same time I cant put in town unless I get more posts from him.
HTS: Doesn't seem like himself when he was townie in a game and I can't really put him on the scum atm because he might be more conservative for this game than in his last game.
Ritoky: I never played with him before so I trying to still figure him out but he seemed to question more on people voting than leading anything.
Now for my scumlist
sicklucker: Normally sicklucker likes to do weird shenanigans to force everyones town read that are normally awkward and this game he doesn't seem to be doing that.


your reads:
HF- obvious read that everyone is making
Templar - trying to noob claim
OWS - meta
Slam - meta in a game you didn't even play
Damdred - fine enough
rsoultin - meta
FF - meta
27nb - non-committal
HTS - meta
ritoky - wait and see

and then there's sicklucker....you say he hasn't done weird shenanigans, but he literally HAS DONE THOSE THINGS. like this is just a straight lie. if you actually were following the thread you should have very clearly read that he did the things that you should have town read him for. that has clearly changed since your original post, so why hasn't your read?

like your reads are crap, they are primarily meta, they have 0 content, 1 is a straight up lie, and they are stagnant even though a whole lot has happened. i just really cannot believe that this is in any way a town perspective.

##vote: LightningStrike

I did also play with Slam 1 game when he was scum too that why I basing my reads on him being town from that game and on Titanic and the shenanigans sicklucker normally does isn't the type he doing atm.
May the next light shine/Former #1 Alliance LoL fan/ Current Teamliquid LoL Fan
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
December 09 2014 13:47 GMT
#731
On December 09 2014 22:43 LightningStrike wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 09 2014 22:38 LoneMeow wrote:
On December 09 2014 22:26 LightningStrike wrote:
FF: He doing similar shenanigans as he did in Campus Mafia when he was town when I played with him so I trust he is town atm.


Since we clearly disagree about Fecalfeast, would you comment on my quite opposite read on him? You don't find it strange at all that he's hardly mentioned the player he's voting at all?

On December 09 2014 22:26 LightningStrike wrote:
Now for my scumlist
sicklucker: Normally sicklucker likes to do weird shenanigans to force everyones town read that are normally awkward and this game he doesn't seem to be doing that.


Also, since you're still calling sicklucker your only scum read I assume you don't buy his claim?




How strong are these town reads? Can you put them in order from strongest to weakest? Would anything change if I told you to completely ignore meta and only make reads based on this game?

Strongest to Weakest in order
HF
Damdred
OWS
FF
rsoultin
Slam
Templar
Also I not buying sicklucker claim because he doesn't seem to be himself on making weird shenanigans early in the game which he does when he was Vanilla Town.


There are two things wrong with that last paragraph.

1) He claimed named VT, not regular VT. So maybe you shouldn't compare to a VT game.
2) His filter kind of does consist of shenanigans.
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
Half the Sky
Profile Joined May 2014
Germany9029 Posts
December 09 2014 13:48 GMT
#732
Ritoky, haven't gotten a chance to look thoroughly at too many people. Just took a pass at liancourt, spoiler posts are a bit nonsensical unless he's claiming snowman, but we need to see some reads for him soon otherwise he's going to fall very quickly into the lurker pile. Not good.
The phoenix must burn to emerge. - Janet Fitch
liancourt
Profile Joined September 2014
1563 Posts
December 09 2014 13:48 GMT
#733
+ Show Spoiler +
oh yeah and 5 wins in a row cmon!
Half the Sky
Profile Joined May 2014
Germany9029 Posts
December 09 2014 13:49 GMT
#734
EBWOP - Liancourt at this point would be null leaning scum.
The phoenix must burn to emerge. - Janet Fitch
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
December 09 2014 13:49 GMT
#735
On December 09 2014 22:42 Half the Sky wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 09 2014 22:23 Xatalos wrote:
Half the Sky: do you have other scumreads besides 27ninjabunnies?


Yes, I do.

My town reads seem very straightforward from everyone I've evaluated last night: Holyflare, Rasputin (rsoultin), Damdred, kitaman27 (who seems to be picking apart things as he should), you also appear to be doing the same atm.

Null - Froggy (one post discussing policy and that's it), Bats (retracted his previous argument as others had the same opinion), Vivax (talking about Froggy)

Null leaning scum - OWS - don't understand his posts, the SL lynch posts I believe were because SL was posting one-liner fluff but after that it was all one word posts.

Scum - 27NB and Kush for reasons I've explained.

I have to look into GlowingBear and Templar and a few others more. LS was null prior to his latest post updated with reads.



Hmm. How is Kush suddenly sure scum? Didn't you just mention that he was towny?
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
liancourt
Profile Joined September 2014
1563 Posts
December 09 2014 13:50 GMT
#736
+ Show Spoiler +
at least i m posting
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
December 09 2014 13:51 GMT
#737
On December 09 2014 22:13 Half the Sky wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 09 2014 22:09 ritoky wrote:
so are you saying you KNOW he is town? why can't he be scum?


I don't know that he's town, but I also don't know or think that scum would roleclaim this early on in the game. I would think it's too dangerous for them to do so. Additionally, the Kush I recall from last game makes these sporadic posts for whatever reason and he was town last time, so I am using meta here.


Like... You just posted this.
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
LoneMeow
Profile Joined June 2013
Finland1396 Posts
December 09 2014 13:51 GMT
#738
On December 09 2014 22:48 Half the Sky wrote:
Ritoky, haven't gotten a chance to look thoroughly at too many people. Just took a pass at liancourt, spoiler posts are a bit nonsensical unless he's claiming snowman, but we need to see some reads for him soon otherwise he's going to fall very quickly into the lurker pile. Not good.


"A bit nonsensical"?

The only post he's had that is possibly somewhat game related is said snowman thing.

Definitely on the sketchier side of null if you ask me.
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
December 09 2014 13:51 GMT
#739
On December 09 2014 22:50 liancourt wrote:
+ Show Spoiler +
at least i m posting


Scumreads? Townreads? Anything?
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
LightningStrike
Profile Joined February 2011
United States14277 Posts
December 09 2014 13:51 GMT
#740
On December 09 2014 22:47 Xatalos wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 09 2014 22:43 LightningStrike wrote:
On December 09 2014 22:38 LoneMeow wrote:
On December 09 2014 22:26 LightningStrike wrote:
FF: He doing similar shenanigans as he did in Campus Mafia when he was town when I played with him so I trust he is town atm.


Since we clearly disagree about Fecalfeast, would you comment on my quite opposite read on him? You don't find it strange at all that he's hardly mentioned the player he's voting at all?

On December 09 2014 22:26 LightningStrike wrote:
Now for my scumlist
sicklucker: Normally sicklucker likes to do weird shenanigans to force everyones town read that are normally awkward and this game he doesn't seem to be doing that.


Also, since you're still calling sicklucker your only scum read I assume you don't buy his claim?




How strong are these town reads? Can you put them in order from strongest to weakest? Would anything change if I told you to completely ignore meta and only make reads based on this game?

Strongest to Weakest in order
HF
Damdred
OWS
FF
rsoultin
Slam
Templar
Also I not buying sicklucker claim because he doesn't seem to be himself on making weird shenanigans early in the game which he does when he was Vanilla Town.


There are two things wrong with that last paragraph.

1) He claimed named VT, not regular VT. So maybe you shouldn't compare to a VT game.
2) His filter kind of does consist of shenanigans.

The shenanigans this game might just be him doing something different from the shenanigans he did in the last 2 games I played with him (Campus and Student) so it could be off because of that.
May the next light shine/Former #1 Alliance LoL fan/ Current Teamliquid LoL Fan
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