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On November 26 2014 14:09 Fecalfeast wrote: ##modkill superbia  | ||
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On November 27 2014 08:03 Sn0_Man wrote: would putin really be tsar vladimir the first? kewl ps i'm pretty sure we aren't communist, especially if putin is our tsar, so the term comrades doesn't apply ##Vote:Sn0_Man | ||
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On November 27 2014 08:43 geript wrote: IDK maybe? You roll town? Always. | ||
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On November 27 2014 08:52 marvellosity wrote: I only ever remember seeing you as mafia in lylo :/ Yet the answer would always be the same, wouldn't it? | ||
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On November 27 2014 08:53 geript wrote: But you haven't always rolled town. How could you think I've rolled anything but town? You seemed like you had something to prove within the first 5m of the game. What's up with that? | ||
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On November 27 2014 09:04 geript wrote: I'm the second best player in this game. Why wouldn't I have something to prove. Plus all the vets except Palmer I have great reads on. That makes me the most important town player in this game. Plus Marv wants my naughty nurse pics. That is clearly added value. Okay. What do you think about HF's push on JAT? | ||
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On November 27 2014 11:00 Elvis! wrote: No we're lynching one of the two obvious mafai here, Sentinel and Obi. Both clearly obnoxious capitalist westerners. Why those two? | ||
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On November 27 2014 09:00 Sn0_Man wrote: geript prefers to be maximum obnoxious at game start On November 27 2014 09:05 Sn0_Man wrote: see? Felt like mafia trying to seem useful. | ||
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On November 27 2014 11:22 Elvis! wrote: Don't ever listen to a new album while studying or working. It will get you terribly distracted. Music you know is fine. In-game information pls. | ||
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On November 27 2014 11:25 Holyflare wrote: That's more to geript or superbia who mentioned him in passing His interaction with you felt a bit awkward. I also don't understand why he wouldn't support an early push on who the fuck cares when he's going to fuck off anyway. Plus the post above. | ||
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On November 27 2014 11:27 ObiWanShinobi wrote: How are you drawing this conclusion, exactly? With my brain. | ||
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On November 27 2014 11:40 Elvis! wrote: Who told you that you came to that conclusion with your brain? Your brain? Maybe it's playing with you. Care to give me 1 mafia and 1 town? | ||
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On November 27 2014 11:53 Elvis! wrote: Obi - town since he's similair to last game and that's the best intel I have so far (even though it's still terribly weak). Sent is mafai since he's complaining about people not being productive while he falls under his own critera. Again crazily weak argument, but an argument How is obi similar to previous game? You are referring to Campus Mafia, yes? | ||
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On November 27 2014 21:56 GlowingBear wrote: Superbia is underwhelming, but at least he didn't post images and didn't sound like he was trying to stop traction of any discussion. He is not to be overlooked, nonetheless, because he is also another a big walls poster Elaborate on this GB. Specifically, where did you get the idea that I'm a "big walls poster"? | ||
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On November 28 2014 01:26 GlowingBear wrote: Aww don't make me search for it... Fanfic? I think fanfic. You mostly post big lists You were an active part of last game's OBS QT, a game in which I was mafia and I survived the entire game. But rather than draw any correlations between my play that game and this game, you come up with a vague meta-read of "Superbia is a big list poster", which you can't even properly pin point to a fucking game, let alone an alignment. The fact that you were OBSing my scum-game from a couple of days ago, try to give a half-assed "read" on me based on "meta", during which you don't even refer to the scum-game I played a couple of days ago, is scummy as fuck. Let's move on to the rest of your game so far: On November 27 2014 12:40 GlowingBear wrote: I think holyflare is wrong. Believing JAT would be here doesn't makes him scum. I understand what HF says but that's too much WIFOM. I find weird the "we are fucked" thing. I can't understand how HF got to this conclusion. Keeping up a bad argument isn't scummy. I can see townie coming from that perspective. I also can see mafia. It means his post is null unless it is connected to some further behaviour.s I hate this post. You basically discredit HF's case but draw zero conclusions from it. What's the point? Why do you feel a need to comment on the case if you have nothing to add and JAT hasn't even posted yet? How does this help town? Protip: it doesn't. On November 27 2014 21:45 GlowingBear wrote: I don't like this post. He makes it sound like snow is mafia for being unfunny, which, obviously, isn't a mafia trait. Snow likes to fuck around, well, that's what he did. If he had little participation, that's also not alignment indicative. Funny thing though is that geript concluded his thoughts saying that snow has a town trait. Which makes geripts post useless. Content less. Yet previously you say: On November 27 2014 12:40 GlowingBear wrote: I like and hate this post at the same time. What did you like about the post before? Because you just said that the post had no content and was useless. Moreover, you manage to make two posts about the same fucking post and manage to draw zero conclusions from it. On November 27 2014 21:56 GlowingBear wrote: Elvis jokes were off and he mostly cluttered the thread when discussion was getting traction. Disrupting the discussion with spam felt mafiaish Also, in his last game, Elvis mostly posts only big wall of text with paranoid thoughts. He didn't do it here. Again, you reach zero actual conclusions here. Is Elvis mafia for doing this? Do you feel like a newer player would be trying to actively disrupt the game in which there are a lot of veterans as scum? Then GB goes for some weak fucking pushes on Elvis, followed by: On November 27 2014 22:46 GlowingBear wrote: That's the problem. I've said my post isn't wishy washy because I've brought things like "this guy looks town, I don't like this", period. I believe being wishy washy is alignment indicative, unless you have specific meta read on someone. ##Vote: geript And a couple of minutes later: On November 27 2014 22:52 GlowingBear wrote: Bah. Boring. ##Unvote ##Vote: Superbia What the fuck? Why aren't you voting on Elvis, who you should have the bigger scumread on (judging by your posts)? TL;DR: GB's non-spam posts reach 0 conclusions. GB's meta-read is shit-tier, and it shouldn't be. GB isn't doing anything for town. GB is mafai. ##Unvote ##Vote: GlowingBear | ||
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On November 28 2014 04:04 GlowingBear wrote: You were pushing suspicion onto me because I am a "big-post player" and I hadn't posted any big posts. This means you indirectly claim a meta-read on me, in which you say that I only post big posts if I'm town. When I call you out to specify where you get this meta-read from, you mention the fanfic game, in which I was town. The fact that you fail to mention the game in which I was scum and you were obsing, makes this meta-read utterly irrelevant. Maybe big posts are not alignment indicative for me at all. Which leads me to the following conclusion: Your meta-read is shit and contributes absolutely nothing towards town. This leads to a multitude of other questions. You of course should know that you had obsed a game in which I was scum, which means that there was a reason you didn't bring it up over the vague "big posts" read. The reason would have to be: 1. You don't bring it up because there is no similary to my scum-game, hence it doesn't fit the agenda of lynching me. Scum-motivated. 2. You don't bring it up because you haven't put a lot of time into OBSing that game, which you claim. The problem here is that you feel comfortable having an out-dated and incomplete (only town) meta-read on me and are comfortable pushing on this read. I feel like you are a competent player, and this is not something you would do as town. Hence it's scum-motivated. There is a secondary problem with your "I wasn't following it closely" defense, in that I think it's an outright lie. In the OBS QT, you call me out on multiple occasions as scum, which indicates that you were paying attention to my posts, and that you had managed to gather a read on me in some way. The fact you had managed to read me as scum multiple times in the OBS QT proves that you had been paying attention to my posts in the game, and that your defense here is a complete fabrication of truth. On November 28 2014 04:04 GlowingBear wrote: The flaw in this defense is that you would have to assume both HF and JAT are town. The collision between the two players could easily provide town with information regarding their alignments, this is what pressuring players is all about. I don't understand why a veteran player like yourself would not want to see this play out if you were town, as you would be able to gather information yourself regarding the alignment of these two players. Moreover, you really did not put town into a track at all. You basically gave a small number of players a less than cursory glance before deciding to put down a vote without any proper logic behind it. Pretty damn scummy. On November 28 2014 04:04 GlowingBear wrote: I will concede that this was not the meat of my argument as to why you were scum, and more questioning what you were doing as town. I feel like you have answered this part of my query, but it does not make you town. Also, I don't feel like anything substantial came out of you looking at Geript. On November 28 2014 04:04 GlowingBear wrote: I don't believe this. I feel no new player would be proactive and disruptive as scum. They are way more likely to try and blend in with town, preferring to be passive. This is, however, a matter of opinion, or at best, conjecture, which makes it a weak argument as to (from your point of view) the strength and motivation of this read. That being said, you end by saying "we should take a look at X", something which you have said before (at least once). As town, "we" should be looking at everyone. The fact that all you are saying is that town should "take a look at X" just screams scum to me. Talk about being non-committal and not useful. On November 28 2014 04:04 GlowingBear wrote: Non-answer. Scumreading someone and then putting your vote outside of your scum-read is indeed scummy. What have you done with your scum-read so far? Absolutely nothing. Do you truly believe I am scum here? I sincerely doubt it. I fail to see any town motivation behind the vote, which makes it scummy in my mind. On November 28 2014 04:04 GlowingBear wrote:Everything is forced in your case. I wonder if you're trying to generate discussion but it doesn't seems the case. It seems you're trying to look town tryhard. "Aggressiveness is a town trait, I'll be aggressive!" My vote stays on you, now. This is not a counter-argument whatsoever. Which parts of the posts were forced? How did you reach this conclusion? This entire section of the post only makes sense if you had a hard scum-read on me before the post, which you didn't. And even then it requires a healthy amount of suspension of critical thinking to conclude that I essentially made the post to "appear townie". Talk about forced reactions. | ||
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On November 28 2014 08:21 marvellosity wrote: well Palmar was only a wildcard. Superbia your post reads pretty well to me, but my gut isn't wholeheartedly in it just yet. I'd like to see it play out between you. I will say that that post does a better job of demonstrating suspicion than your last one did which demonstrated "badness" more, for wont of a better word All right. That's fair enough. | ||
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On November 28 2014 08:39 GlowingBear wrote: Do I really have to answer Superbia's big post? Because I'm kinda bored with it. Am I scum? | ||
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On November 28 2014 08:43 Holyflare wrote: I quite clearly told you smash bros was released today. Gb is also my top suspect from my list post. You're just kind of rehashing what I've already said about him. "he criticised ppl for wishy washy posts and said it was alignment indicative but he did the same thing as them" "he voted his scum reads top mafia suspect" "he said he was making discussion happen but just asked about lurkers and did nothing " " he pushed elvis for ruining discussion but said he was changing the thread so that discussion started " You're actually just copying the points i raised Have you actually fucking read my post or what? | ||
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On November 28 2014 08:44 GlowingBear wrote: Probably not. You're wrong on your read but I find your stream of thought genuine this time. Can you respond to my post? | ||
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On November 28 2014 08:52 Holyflare wrote: I meant your previous points were a rehash. These new ones are pretty much just continuing to point out the same things in a different way. His elvis read was bad and scummy = his elvis read was bad because he's new. Your only real new point is that he used bs meta and refused to respond about what he did being scummy which he did exactly tje same way to me already Right. I'm not going to lie, I did not really register your points on GB at all. Let me give a quick recap: 1. GB says something regarding my meta, which I recognize as weak and wrong, I make an in-depth push on it. 2. I check out GB's filter and notice the following: - Weak push on Elvis for a bad reason. - Vote do not align correctly with reads (I did notice you pushed on this as well, but I do not recall seeing any follow up). - Cursory reads with no conclusions. - Trying to devalue your case for no good reason. Hence I scum-read him and take up this in my case. My case was rather complete, so it makes sense that it would include points that might've been brought up before. Do you genuinely feel like my points were a complete or partial rehash of your points? What does this say about my alignment? | ||
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On November 28 2014 09:07 GlowingBear wrote: That's your opinion. Btw, Superbia, I'm not a vet. Or am I? O.o I'm pretty sure you've played this game before. I've seen your name many times. | ||
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On November 28 2014 09:16 GlowingBear wrote: Since May... Not sure if it make and a vet. How do you read marv? That's like half a year. I don't really have a read on Marv. Most of my time has been focused on you. | ||
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On November 28 2014 09:16 marvellosity wrote: Playing game before != vet Take "you have played the game before" more sardonically. | ||
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On November 28 2014 09:20 marvellosity wrote: damn son, i have a shedload of posts (many of them pointless i admit) and you don't have a read on me? D: Leaning town if anything. I haven't really had a reason to care that much. | ||
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Because he hasn't posted anything that stood out as scummy to me? Stop overacting. | ||
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On November 28 2014 09:25 GlowingBear wrote: You're basically saying that you don't care for discovering people's alignment, only if they vote for you. I don't even think you genuinely believe this. I did look at people who voted on me first, mainly because I know my alignment and I thought I had been pretty damn townie. I initially read you scummy because of your meta-read on me, which I know for a fact to be a 100% false. That being said, my town play for d1 is not to discover everyone's alignments. I look for standout scummy things and push on those, you stood out, I'm pushing on you. | ||
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On November 28 2014 09:33 marvellosity wrote: At what point did you think this? Your filter was literally full of absolutely nothing when I was talking about it with jat earlier. Before your GB stuff. Basically before the GB thing as well. It wasn't until Geript pointed out that I actually had been pretty passive that I realized that I had been. | ||
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On November 28 2014 09:37 Holyflare wrote: I think you're confusing things here. You asked why i was uninterested and I'm telling you because of smash and you saying things I've already said /agree with Fair enough then. So you think GB's mafia? | ||
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On November 28 2014 09:37 marvellosity wrote: it's a marvel to me that you thought you'd been townie. what did you *think* you'd done that had been townie? Roll town, lol. I did not think that there was specifically something I had done that was townie, it was more like I felt like my townieness would show because I was town. If that makes sense. | ||
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On November 28 2014 09:42 GlowingBear wrote: A lot had been discussed regarding scum traits, yet you only have a scumread on the only person who is voting you. When I ask you about one of the most active players you say you don't have a read (which is okay) because you don't care!? (which is not okay). So you think HF's case on JAT was good. He has been calling JAT scum. Yet only I stood out for you? I don't think the source of the scum-read matters if the scum-read is good, do you? I can see why you think me not really caring that much might irk you as town, but I've explained my d1 play before. What exactly is the confusion here? I did not feel strongly about JAT's case, but I was interested in the outcome. You were the one that stood out the most to me, I felt like your filter was pretty damn scummy, which is why I made a big case on you. | ||
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On November 28 2014 09:54 GlowingBear wrote: So I'm scum for pointing out the JAT case as bad, yet you didn't feel it was strong. Wanna know the outcome? I can tell you: "You're scum for [insert bad reason]" "I'm town because [insert null reason]" I'm totes scum. Marv also tore those two apart. He was the first one to do that, actually. Why aren't you scumreading him? The way you say that you play day1 means nothing to me. The way I see you playing is most important to me. Yeah I remember Marv doing this, but I felt like it came from a more townie perspective at the time, like he was doing it to get a read on HF. I did not see a townie reason behind you diffusing the push. You later even complained that nothing was really happening. | ||
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On November 28 2014 10:04 GlowingBear wrote: Criticising a read is a way to keep discussion going, but to the right direction. Asking questions are a way to generate discussion. Your double standards here bothers me. The problem is that you instantly give a read on HF based on the push you just tried to diffuse, which is literally null. Like I would understand a town motivation if you would actually give a new direction to town or start asking questions right after (specifically towards HF), but you do nothing. | ||
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On November 28 2014 10:13 GlowingBear wrote: Saying a read is bad =\= read someone as scum. I don't remember reading HF as scum. You can see through my activity, though, that I tried to gather information to be more able to read people. You don't need to scum-read HF there, I just don't understand the town motivation behind diffusing someone's play and then fucking off. | ||
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Elvis - I've played with Elvis twice, and both times he was VT. Elvis was indeed a bit different at the start of the game than he was at the start of other games. I do not recall him ever joking around at the start of the game before. But to be quite frank, I don't particularly think this is very mafia-indicative: 1. Elvis is a new player, I'm expecting new players to switch up quite a bit, partially because they have to become comfortable with the game. 2. He subbed out and the fact that he subbed out so early also means that we only have a tiny bit of his gameplay to work with, and I'm not comfortable with lynching someone with only small pieces of information to work with. I don't really have a read on Damd yet, but I haven't taken the time to dive his filter either (and I probably won't take/have the time today). Overall, I agree that Elvis' play did not look like his previous play, but I don't think that's enough to lynch his replacement. Sentinel - I've only placed with Sent once, and we were both scum (Campus mafia). His play during d1 was different than what I see here, which initially made me believe he was probably town. However, I recall him saying early on in scum QT that he was planning to call me out on my first post as scum before he realized he was scum as well. This makes me believe that Sent is usually a fairly aggressive player, who is not afraid to call out people as scum straight up. This game I feel he has been passive and has given weak reads at best. This leads me to believe that he may very well be switching up his play a bit to hide: his play isn't the same as his scum-game with me, but I find it hard to believe this is his town-game based on the feeling I had on him in the scum QT during the scum-game (again, Campus mafia). Overall, I would say that I am leaning scum on Sentinel, and wouldn't mind seeing a case on him by someone other than me (mainly because I have little time this evening). GlowingBear - The interactions I had with GB last night did not really convince me he was town. I would like everyone who has not done so to give an opinion on the case, and what they think of GB. As it stands, my vote will remain on GB. | ||
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Going to check some filters on people I have an ominous feeling about, but I'll be around for questions. | ||
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On November 28 2014 23:22 marvellosity wrote: like if Damdred/Elvis is mafia, have they had a single vote on them all game? Marv, I want you to elaborate on this post. Are you saying that Damd/Elvis is mafia because there hasn't been a single vote on them all game? If not, then what are you asking here? | ||
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Because I feel he's town and he always gets killed for dumb fucking reasons near EoD. | ||
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Mostly this post: On November 27 2014 19:49 Palmar wrote: Is super smart. Another interesting tidbit is that this first post by mafia is almost always some kind of a fluffy comment. I didn't write down the posts (I should have) but it was pretty obvious that during the first... 20? posts of the game, mafia posts just to post. So I'm literally only going to do that today. just read the first 20 posts or so and find the mafia in there. I really liked Obi's post as well. The fact that he's completely acting upon this thing is a bit weird, but not scum indicative. In fact I think it's rather townie, especially coupled with the fact that he's giving the appearance of being busy due to thanksgiving. I also personally liked the little tidbit of me being the first post in every town game I've been in. Also I agree with most his (limited) reads, excepting the rayn part. I haven't really read rayn. Though I'm mostly defending him here because I felt a "lolz let's vote for plammar gais" garbage lynch coming, into him flipping town, into town having made 0 progression. | ||
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On November 29 2014 04:01 Holyflare wrote: The more you post superbia the less I like you as town :/ I find this really hard to believe. Yesterday you essentially said you agreed with my points on GB, and since then I've interacted with GB and giving my input on Elvis and Sent. Care to elaborate why you're reading my posts as scummy? | ||
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On November 29 2014 04:08 WaveofShadow wrote: Not a fan of your latest post Superbia. Specifically the part right at the end where you say he felt a garbage lynch coming on. You mean the one I said was going to happen like yesterday and the one marv and I talked about extensively? You're way too late to be defending him for nothing now, and it just comes out sounding really awkward. It just sounds like you're cool with him because he townread you. That's fair enough, but my history with playing with Palmar has always resulted in him getting lynched early on the game for an, in my opinion, dumb fucking reason (partially his own fault) and he flipped town. This feels almost exactly the same as then. People are scum-reading him because of his inactivity/weirdness, he comes and gives some reads and says he'll not be around for EoD. He ends up getting lynched and I end up yelling at people for being stupid. | ||
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On November 29 2014 04:18 justanothertownie wrote: If you are talking about werewolf he eventually was doing much much more than in this game. In Fanfic too. In fanfic I hard defended him during d2 and I felt like I really had a good read on Palmar. I ended up being correct. In werewolf I already knew his alignment (I was scum), and his play there seemed to follow the exact same structure as it does here: 1. Palmar does something weird or whatever the fuck. 2. People are scum-reading and voting for Palmar. 3. Palmar comes out and gives out a small number of reads, doesn't seem to care that much about the pressure, then goes afk. 4. Palmar gets lynched. 5. Palmar flips town. | ||
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On November 29 2014 04:22 WaveofShadow wrote: I've seen him get lynched as scum for playing like this as well. Can't remember the game. Then I would really like a link to this game, because this is my read on Palmar as it stands. | ||
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On November 29 2014 04:25 justanothertownie wrote: You are either misremembering or intentionally trying to mislead here. By the time he was lynched in werewolf Palmar was easily the towniest player in the game (he had also given a good amount of different reads) which made the fact that those idiots lynched him so awesome for us scummers. What? I did not feel like he was the towniest player at all at that point in the game (though to be honest, I do not know who was, that game was a clusterfuck for town). I remember agreeing with the pressure on Palmar, but finding the lynch mindbogglingly bad. Maybe my read on Palmar is bad, so I'd love to see a case on why he's scum here. As it stands I still believe it's a shit lynch. | ||
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On November 29 2014 04:37 justanothertownie wrote: I don't think it is possible to make a case for Palmar being scum OR town here which is the problem. His play followed the structure I have seen in previous games in which he was town. That's why he's town for me. He's not strong town, but it's enough not on the lynch table for today. | ||
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On November 29 2014 04:39 raynpelikoneet wrote: Sno is town. Can you just elaborate in a single sentence why you think this? | ||
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On November 29 2014 04:41 justanothertownie wrote: I think what has been said re: it does not tell us anything whatever he flips is the only reason not to lynch him. That's a fair point as well. | ||
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On November 29 2014 04:42 geript wrote: ##unvote ##vite damdred I forgot that Damdred likes to suck up to me as mafia. Idk why I didn't catch it specifically earlier. Like Damdred as town has always really struggled to read me correctly. But in both this game and his last scum game he's called me town when the sentiment is there. Like he tries to not buck the thread and just slide by which is exactly what he gave us with his first set of reads. Nothing controversial here. General consensus picks. He loves to focus on GB or some bit of info to make him look towny. Like every other post Damdred has made involves a read on GB that GB said was complete BS after avogadros. On top of those are my misgivings from before. Damdred wasn't terribly interested in reading or playing when he replaced in. As town he often has as much or more activity than I do. He enjoys playing town. Whereas he gets hung up on being scum. He's less active and will use any excuse to stay out of the thread. I forget who brought it up earlier (Rayn maybe) but in Elvis' last town game he had a hard time finding any town reads. But like 5 pages in he had one here. Plus I think someone else brought up that Elvis last game had problems making any reads but he had two early. Like both heads are independently different from their town play and one of the heads is exactly playing to his scum meta. Plx lynch To be honest I half-ass pressured Elvis into giving two early reads. So I don't know if that last argument on Elvis is fair. | ||
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On November 29 2014 04:51 marvellosity wrote: Superbia, it was simply that geript was saying that Sn0 was getting no traction/votes, so I pointed out neither had elvis/damdred Okay, thanks for answering. | ||
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On November 29 2014 05:32 Holyflare wrote: Absolutely nobody will follow you jat. Just like nobody will probably follow me. I'm content with both tbh. So you think JAT's town then? | ||
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On November 29 2014 05:34 Holyflare wrote: I'm content for a very good reason  How the fuck are you content? I've seen you fucking go mental as town trying to get your lynch target lynched. The pressure you have applied to JAT is laughable, and I therefore sincerely doubt you are reading him as scum. Honestly you've felt very passive to me the entire game compared to what I was expecting from you. Why are you content again? | ||
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On November 29 2014 05:53 Damdred wrote: K I'm a vt far as I know sorry I suck at mafia in general I guess The fuck is this. | ||
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On November 29 2014 05:59 GlowingBear wrote: Damdred will flip town and you're all stupid for that. Elaborate please. | ||
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On November 29 2014 06:04 GlowingBear wrote: Rayn you're also wasting your vote on WoS. Palmar is palmar Superbia reads me as scum but he is doing nothing to get me killed and he is not caring to identify damdreds alignment, when he scumread me for doing a weak push on Elvis, the slot that is getting lynched right now. He should be trying to lynch me or at least defend damdred if he thinks I'm scum. He is wasting his vote voting on me. He is the best lunch target for today. Why the fuck would I ever defend DamD? Also I scumread you mainly because your reads and pushes were weak as shit. And the Elvis read was illogical on top of that. The fact that your push on damd was so weak and the fact that your vote never ended on him actually makes it very possible that you two are scum together. | ||
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On November 29 2014 06:13 GlowingBear wrote: You're assuming I've pointed out a partner when there was noone on him. Most stupid idea on day1. You're now just defending yourself. I bet you're scum. YOU are the one bringing up logic that you can only be scum if damd's slot is town, which is absolutely fucking ridiculous. | ||
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On November 28 2014 08:44 GlowingBear wrote: Probably not. You're wrong on your read but I find your stream of thought genuine this time. | ||
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On November 29 2014 06:37 marvellosity wrote: i already did superbia? the game-related stuff is how he assessed rayn's level of caring this game -> the other game where he was mafia Oh yeah, I remember reading some of the discussion on this. Did wave give a defense? | ||
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On November 29 2014 04:40 WaveofShadow wrote: I have zero sympathy for you. If you don't have time to play the game, don't play. I find this post kind of hard to believe, since wave was the one who invoked sympathy in others just the day before. Surely he would be more understanding if he was in a similar position just barely a day ago (i.e. if you don't (have time) to play the game, don't play). That being said, I'm also not really comfortable with lynching wave at the moment, as I would like to hear him give a defense. | ||
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Can everyone who hasn't done so yet read my case on GB (page 2 in my filter) and decide what they think? I think it's the best lynch at the moment. | ||
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On November 29 2014 07:21 justanothertownie wrote: I was about to call you out. Somehow everyone seems to be gone and it is really scaring me. Honestly I don't feel like I have that much more to add. I'm fine with either GB or damd, with a preference towards GB. Most people seem to have made up their mind about GB, so I guess it'll have to be damd. | ||
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On November 29 2014 07:26 justanothertownie wrote: Because he feels damdred is town :/ Yeah well no shit, but how did he get there. | ||
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I hate how that is actually sort of townie. I don't even want to think that. | ||
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Look who came around. Any input? | ||
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Dude you can't be this static. | ||
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What do you think of Damd's post. Who'd you like to see lynched? | ||
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On November 29 2014 07:41 Sn0_Man wrote: While i don't think i'd cry if any of dam sup gb wos sent got lynched, I really don't see why we don't stick to dam. What happened to your Palmar 'read'? | ||
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On November 29 2014 07:55 geript wrote: Sorry not sent it wasn't super sorry This is confusing, you mean you want to go on me? | ||
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On November 30 2014 02:05 Holyflare wrote: Going to be out all night so have fun, if jat doesn't die I got rb'd Vigi's can't shoot tonight. Sick claim. | ||
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On November 30 2014 02:12 Holyflare wrote: ? What are you even talking about Either you're town and you're informing mafia or you're mafia and still informing mafia I literally said the shit about the vig like 2 pages ago, and anyone with the ability to read the OP would know this. Also I would inform mafia in the QT, not in thread. I don't know what to think about this claim. | ||
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On November 30 2014 02:10 Holyflare wrote: Well thanks for informing mafia twat Like this literally implies I'm town. There's no fucking way you can go around that. | ||
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On November 30 2014 02:17 Holyflare wrote: No it doesn't it means that you informed mafia??? You're just implying you are reading my mind instead of you know. Acknowledging what I'm saying But if I was mafia I would already be informed! I can't fucking inform myself. By saying "you've informed mafia" you are literally saying I am town. | ||
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I only pushed/voted on people I found to be scummy? | ||
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On November 30 2014 10:39 geript wrote: Marv and idk. Sn0 How the fuck did sn0 get there? | ||
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On November 30 2014 10:42 geript wrote: Lack of better #2. Like he's been ass and complete worthless all game. He either blue or red. You scumread him a few hours ago. Also what kind of fucking townread is that. | ||
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On December 01 2014 07:39 Holyflare wrote: i literally already said this superbia -.- Literally not on purpose dude rofl. | ||
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He was off the lynch list due to the claim. He's on the town list for that obi read lol. | ||
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On December 01 2014 08:18 Holyflare wrote: I thought I was scum for "knowing you were town?" Yeah that gave me a scum-lean on you, but I've gone over your reaction a couple of times and it wasn't that alignment indicative. | ||
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On December 02 2014 07:16 Damdred wrote: Yes I do its difficult for me to copy paste this all on my phone so having tod o it one at a time All right. No problem. | ||
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On December 02 2014 07:15 Holyflare wrote: he's posted his reads this cycle before so i don't think it;s right to say he wasn't interested Eh, fair enough. I was hoping to have him react to it. | ||
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On December 02 2014 07:27 Superbia wrote: Real quick. Who has played with sn0 before? I need a link to a town game and possibly a scum game as well. | ||
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Obi Sent Maybe Palmar Those are the options. | ||
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Nah, I think EoN is best. | ||
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On December 02 2014 08:18 Holyflare wrote: i hope we have a vigi and that vigi shoots sn0 | ||
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On December 02 2014 08:40 Holyflare wrote: whoever is the real medic should just heal me btw I disagree. If it's Palmar he should decide for himself. I'm actually considering the play of having Palmar RB sn0, because I'm quite sure sn0 is a mafia PR (specifically I think he's probably mafia vigi). | ||
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On December 02 2014 08:50 Holyflare wrote: just stick to my plan man don't put too much thought into it The: - Palmar RB sn0. - Sn0 heals you. Plan? | ||
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Bah. That ruins a world I just sketched out. I thought only alignment cop interacts with framer/GF. And since alignment was virtually impossible due to balancing issues, mafia would have an essentially dead PR (even worse than goon), therefore 3 scum PR. Never mind. | ||
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On December 03 2014 00:51 ObiWanShinobi wrote: I don't think this is how jailkeepers work though. Reread. | ||
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On December 03 2014 01:26 Palmar wrote: That's because Sn0 is not telling the truth. ![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/tOJKw.gif) | ||
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On December 03 2014 01:34 Palmar wrote: Were you aware that you often post the 1st post in a game as town? Do you think it is a valid metric to judge you this game? Not until now. :D It's a shitty metric to judge my alignment, probably. I'm usually not afraid as mafai, just calculated. | ||
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On December 03 2014 01:57 Holyflare wrote: but why don't you think that palmars claim is fake and that he's a mafia rber and I just tracked another blue instead? seeing as the person is going to jat then that person exclusively either has to be a mafia rolecop or town I don't see the world in which Marv gets RBed as town by mafai though. That being said, it's still possible, just very unlikely. | ||
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On December 03 2014 02:12 marvellosity wrote: why? seems a perfectly normal thing to do to me Why RB over KP? | ||
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On December 03 2014 02:14 marvellosity wrote: because i assume they decided they needed to kill the guy who had the retardo argument with rayn thus making him pretty much confirmed town so they just rbed me instead given mafia don't want to use the rb on themselves when there's a bunch of blues presumably running around, using it on someone who might be blue but also doesn't need the legitimacy of the rb to be town (e.g. me) is a relatively sensible course of action That makes sense. But I've had a pretty decent VT read on you, and I don't know why mafia would think you're a role. | ||
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On December 03 2014 02:21 marvellosity wrote: your read is meaningless as when i have a role i basically forget about it and play just the same So mafia just takes the 1/9 chance instead of following one of their role-reads (which I'm assuming they have)? IDK. I'm not saying it's impossible, it's just not the world I want to live in right now. I'd rather wait for HF's EoN reveal and the night flips. | ||
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On December 03 2014 02:28 marvellosity wrote: " it's just not the world I want to live in right now" you're easily upset lol I'm not upset. I just think it's way more likely that sn0 is scum here. I'm not excluding Plammar being the scum here, I'm just not fully exploring that world right now. | ||
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On December 03 2014 02:31 Holyflare wrote: I literally just said I was :o :D | ||
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#LynchAllLiars | ||
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On December 03 2014 02:46 marvellosity wrote: you don't want me to answer that ... | ||
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As such, I was expecting sn0 to be scum vigi or scum RB. Unfortunately, if he's RB, his actions will resolve regardless of JK. Worst case tonight is 2 kp + 1 RB. Everything besides that should turn out well for us, unless I was the target of KP. | ||
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Obviously I would've checked with the host before submitting such an action. I thought the parity cops in all-stars could check dead people, but maybe I'm getting confused with checks that end up dead the same night. | ||
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Same with Marv, I had you top town and as being VT. No idea where mafia would get the idea of wasting an RC check on you. You would've been a perfect target for KP if anything. Leave RC for more questionable townies. | ||
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On December 03 2014 07:36 Holyflare wrote: there is literally 0 explanation for him being rb'd ever and I already feel like he's trying to set it up You're fucking paranoid dude. To be honest, I thought me being the blue here was really obvious from our interactions. x: | ||
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On December 03 2014 07:38 Holyflare wrote: no it's absolutely not paranoid if you claim rb you are mafia It is absolutely paranoid. You should know I'm town and that my claim is genuine. We even had some decent sneak communication. I SINCERELY doubt I was RBed, but there's a slight possibility. Just considering the worst world. | ||
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On December 03 2014 07:36 justanothertownie wrote: No, they can't. And even if they could it still would be an awful play. I would not personally make the play of trying to get a for sure green-check to start off with (ensuring you know who's on what side of the different check). But if the parity would prefer that meta, and could check dead targets, it would be a fine play. | ||
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Because he was the for sure blue here? And I doubt mafia would leave tracker HF alone. So I was expecting RB or KP on him 95%. | ||
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On December 03 2014 07:45 justanothertownie wrote: No. It's not a fine play. It's wasting a check. GJ Palmar btw. Thought you would do it, Ya. GJ. Some parity cop players like to check someone they can read reliably, in order to effectively be a cop for the rest of the game. If you sub the first check for a dead-check, this can also be done. Again, I am not this type of player and would never do this if I was the parity cop. | ||
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On December 03 2014 07:57 Sn0_Man wrote: ? i explained why there's no reason for palmar to claim as scum You can't be this convinced about palmar as doctor. No way. | ||
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On December 03 2014 08:35 Palmar wrote: You dumb bro. My scenario was perfectly fine. I just had to lynch geript today, then you tomorrow (shoot superbia in the night and roleblock you) and then convince sent, jat, obi that shiaopi is literally the worst balancer of roles ever and somehow made a game with doc, jk, tracker, watcher. It's ez. Perfectly doable. :D | ||
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Never again. | ||
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On December 03 2014 08:56 marvellosity wrote: somehow i feel i learnt quite a bit from this game even though i didn't play very well. Feel the same way. | ||
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On December 03 2014 09:33 GlowingBear wrote: My mislynch was bad by the way Sry. | ||
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On December 03 2014 09:46 marvellosity wrote: free townread for superbia next time he rolls mafia and posts first in the game :p I'm going to post first AND do the scummy list everyone in town post. What then? :D | ||
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