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Half the Sky
Profile Joined May 2014
Germany9029 Posts
December 01 2014 12:15 GMT
#1521
Breshke, you are forgetting one important piece of the puzzle here.

If Meat does NOT return, he gets modkilled.
We are lylo one, we have to take that into account.
The phoenix must burn to emerge. - Janet Fitch
sicklucker
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada16987 Posts
December 01 2014 12:17 GMT
#1522
On November 29 2014 08:25 LightningStrike wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 29 2014 08:14 Oatsmaster wrote:
Ls is changing mind. The post where he said we should lynch bats after meat does not make sense from a town pov why don't we lynch bats today? Dunno, he doesn't say. It reads like he is lining up lynches. + he keeps saying he is bad and it's annoying.

If you had read my my top 3 scum list that I had made per your request I had put Meatpudding in there first on my list and reading the case on bats I think if meatpudding ends up as scum I think bats would be our next lynch but that just me in my opinion and here was my last I made earlier in the thread
Show nested quote +
On November 28 2014 22:36 LightningStrike wrote:
I just woke up after going to bed after my last post and I asked who my top 3 scum are and here is mine that are here
meatpudding
kushm4sta
Alakaslam
@rsoultin The only wagon at the time was Dicksmash McIroncock and other cases that wasn't well put out and few people who I felt was townie voted for Dicksmash McIroncock so sorry if I put it all on you but it was mainly your push to get me to vote kind of forced my hand :|

obviously my view changed now with the following as my current scum
meatpudding
batsnacks
kushm4sta
kush posts seems to not have any real substance at all and the same thing happened in my last game when he was scum so it's a high chance in my opinion he would be scum.


Like these are his last reads. Going through his filter theirs no point where he changes on bats then he just starts sheeping him like more then ive ever seen anyone sheep. Hes a first time mafia I expect him to be this obvious, and I dont really expect bats to be this fooled.
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
December 01 2014 12:18 GMT
#1523
On December 01 2014 21:08 Breshke wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 01 2014 21:04 rsoultin wrote:
Edit: That was directed at bats in case it wasn't clear.

And thank you for your reads, Breshke. I'm not 100% in agreement with all of it but it does seem very thought out. And yes, it would be very nice for meat to show up and put something in. We've still got over a day though so...there's that.


wow you read that fast

I don't expect you to agree with all of it im surprised it actually makes sense. Rsoultion I would be voting LS right now but I dont want meats to think there is no pressure on him when he comes back to the thread because he needs to start being towny today. So thinking on that how do you feel about people being so happy to take their votes of meat and vote LS, like does it change your read on meat?


I don't have an issue with you keeping to what you think, or keeping the pressure on. Meats not sticking up for himself is a valid point. Only scenario that makes sense to me with meat actually as mafia is if scum team was convinced one or the other (LS or meat) was bound to be lynched today so made a gamble.

As for if all the votes swing? It's a little harder to judge when we've already been talking about it, since scum team knows why I held out to begin with. But it's early to get worried, I think. You, SL and HTS are my main town reads and Oats' moves have always seemed logical regardless of his possible alignment.

Logic lies in scum trying to win quickly over slowly. Only reason to buss is if they don't think they have better options, especially when everyone but me was on meat. Can't really claim that means you were town later.
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
Breshke
Profile Joined July 2014
Australia3749 Posts
December 01 2014 12:23 GMT
#1524
On December 01 2014 21:18 rsoultin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 01 2014 21:08 Breshke wrote:
On December 01 2014 21:04 rsoultin wrote:
Edit: That was directed at bats in case it wasn't clear.

And thank you for your reads, Breshke. I'm not 100% in agreement with all of it but it does seem very thought out. And yes, it would be very nice for meat to show up and put something in. We've still got over a day though so...there's that.


wow you read that fast

I don't expect you to agree with all of it im surprised it actually makes sense. Rsoultion I would be voting LS right now but I dont want meats to think there is no pressure on him when he comes back to the thread because he needs to start being towny today. So thinking on that how do you feel about people being so happy to take their votes of meat and vote LS, like does it change your read on meat?


I don't have an issue with you keeping to what you think, or keeping the pressure on. Meats not sticking up for himself is a valid point. Only scenario that makes sense to me with meat actually as mafia is if scum team was convinced one or the other (LS or meat) was bound to be lynched today so made a gamble.

As for if all the votes swing? It's a little harder to judge when we've already been talking about it, since scum team knows why I held out to begin with. But it's early to get worried, I think. You, SL and HTS are my main town reads and Oats' moves have always seemed logical regardless of his possible alignment.

Logic lies in scum trying to win quickly over slowly. Only reason to buss is if they don't think they have better options, especially when everyone but me was on meat. Can't really claim that means you were town later.


How much do you think votes at the very very start of the day matter though? Those votes are bound to change and stuff but i still see what you are saying.

I'm feeling a lot better about this game because I am now fairly sure rsoultin is town and if anyone disagrees they should say so we can discuss it.
sicklucker
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada16987 Posts
December 01 2014 12:25 GMT
#1525
Like alot of what people were reading as bats to be town could just be mafia trying to get the lynch off kush onto another town for a potential mod kill. It was probably town vs town. Even bats thinks hts is town
sicklucker
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada16987 Posts
December 01 2014 12:26 GMT
#1526
On December 01 2014 21:23 Breshke wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 01 2014 21:18 rsoultin wrote:
On December 01 2014 21:08 Breshke wrote:
On December 01 2014 21:04 rsoultin wrote:
Edit: That was directed at bats in case it wasn't clear.

And thank you for your reads, Breshke. I'm not 100% in agreement with all of it but it does seem very thought out. And yes, it would be very nice for meat to show up and put something in. We've still got over a day though so...there's that.


wow you read that fast

I don't expect you to agree with all of it im surprised it actually makes sense. Rsoultion I would be voting LS right now but I dont want meats to think there is no pressure on him when he comes back to the thread because he needs to start being towny today. So thinking on that how do you feel about people being so happy to take their votes of meat and vote LS, like does it change your read on meat?


I don't have an issue with you keeping to what you think, or keeping the pressure on. Meats not sticking up for himself is a valid point. Only scenario that makes sense to me with meat actually as mafia is if scum team was convinced one or the other (LS or meat) was bound to be lynched today so made a gamble.

As for if all the votes swing? It's a little harder to judge when we've already been talking about it, since scum team knows why I held out to begin with. But it's early to get worried, I think. You, SL and HTS are my main town reads and Oats' moves have always seemed logical regardless of his possible alignment.

Logic lies in scum trying to win quickly over slowly. Only reason to buss is if they don't think they have better options, especially when everyone but me was on meat. Can't really claim that means you were town later.


How much do you think votes at the very very start of the day matter though? Those votes are bound to change and stuff but i still see what you are saying.

I'm feeling a lot better about this game because I am now fairly sure rsoultin is town and if anyone disagrees they should say so we can discuss it.


In the worlds where we have a decent chance. Ya rsoultin is probably town
Hopeless1der
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States5836 Posts
December 01 2014 12:27 GMT
#1527
I'm omw to work so I can't hold a discussion right now.

Batsnacks hard defending LS. Por què?

Sicklucker you said something about soul reading Damdred earlier. I want you to channel your inner Trfel and explain this considering YOU KNEW Damdred's alignment in the "ongoing game" you kept referencing. You didnt have a read on him at all. On a similar note, you voted Damdred in ms paint day1 as scum buddies, so I don't get how LS flipping mafia 100% clears meat.
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
December 01 2014 12:32 GMT
#1528
On December 01 2014 21:23 Breshke wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 01 2014 21:18 rsoultin wrote:
On December 01 2014 21:08 Breshke wrote:
On December 01 2014 21:04 rsoultin wrote:
Edit: That was directed at bats in case it wasn't clear.

And thank you for your reads, Breshke. I'm not 100% in agreement with all of it but it does seem very thought out. And yes, it would be very nice for meat to show up and put something in. We've still got over a day though so...there's that.


wow you read that fast

I don't expect you to agree with all of it im surprised it actually makes sense. Rsoultion I would be voting LS right now but I dont want meats to think there is no pressure on him when he comes back to the thread because he needs to start being towny today. So thinking on that how do you feel about people being so happy to take their votes of meat and vote LS, like does it change your read on meat?


I don't have an issue with you keeping to what you think, or keeping the pressure on. Meats not sticking up for himself is a valid point. Only scenario that makes sense to me with meat actually as mafia is if scum team was convinced one or the other (LS or meat) was bound to be lynched today so made a gamble.

As for if all the votes swing? It's a little harder to judge when we've already been talking about it, since scum team knows why I held out to begin with. But it's early to get worried, I think. You, SL and HTS are my main town reads and Oats' moves have always seemed logical regardless of his possible alignment.

Logic lies in scum trying to win quickly over slowly. Only reason to buss is if they don't think they have better options, especially when everyone but me was on meat. Can't really claim that means you were town later.


How much do you think votes at the very very start of the day matter though? Those votes are bound to change and stuff but i still see what you are saying.

I'm feeling a lot better about this game because I am now fairly sure rsoultin is town and if anyone disagrees they should say so we can discuss it.


Eh, bats started the tunneling on me. And it's hard to argue HTS as scum when he refused to change his vote, and posted as town when he thought he'd been lynched, since those last two vote changes came in right on the edge and weren't counted.

Bats started the tunneling on me, Damdred said I looked scum based off that, bats suggested the vote change, Damdred went with it...and the mess got started. Outcome was no different except he did a damn good job of discrediting me, making himself look good...then Damdred flips town when he's mafia-killed. It all seemed too convenient to me -_-. But I was reluctant to say much cause yeah going after the guy who went after you looks like just that. Going after the guy cause he went after you.

But then it was like all aboard the meat train.

You're right that it doesn't usually matter. It's just that even if you thought I was mafia (which would be dumb not to go with the flow) there's at least 1 mafia in that train. More likely 2-3.
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
sicklucker
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada16987 Posts
December 01 2014 12:34 GMT
#1529
Ok so I was curious and I went through bats filter looking for things on ls. He literately ignored the fact hes even in this game. He mentions him twice early and town reading, another saying GJ!. Man I think we have them, their interactions are so strange
sicklucker
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada16987 Posts
December 01 2014 12:40 GMT
#1530
On December 01 2014 21:27 Hopeless1der wrote:
I'm omw to work so I can't hold a discussion right now.

Batsnacks hard defending LS. Por què?

Sicklucker you said something about soul reading Damdred earlier. I want you to channel your inner Trfel and explain this considering YOU KNEW Damdred's alignment in the "ongoing game" you kept referencing. You didnt have a read on him at all. On a similar note, you voted Damdred in ms paint day1 as scum buddies, so I don't get how LS flipping mafia 100% clears meat.


I was paranoid but when it mattered I always sided with damdred. Im the reason hes dead he wasint town read because he lead two mislynches so im not sure what you talking about. I was instructed to bus damdred because the two of us started very poorly. Theirs a difference of busing when the votes dont matter. And voting your partner mins into the day where it looks really scummy if you change it. If im LS and meats my buddy I vote him at the end of the day not the start of it....
sicklucker
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada16987 Posts
December 01 2014 12:43 GMT
#1531
On November 30 2014 11:04 sicklucker wrote:
Alright last post since im the only one here and its drinkin time.


IM RIDE OR DIE WITH DAMDRED YAAEEEH

Theres too many other unknowns and hes gone against all my meta mafia reads on him. Congrats if you tricked me im never voting you.

Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
December 01 2014 12:48 GMT
#1532
On December 01 2014 21:15 Half the Sky wrote:
Breshke, you are forgetting one important piece of the puzzle here.

If Meat does NOT return, he gets modkilled.
We are lylo one, we have to take that into account.

No we dont.
NEVER MENTION MODKILLS.
EVER.

Just dont. Its out of game stuff.
Never do it.
In any game you play.
No gg, No skill.
Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
December 01 2014 12:49 GMT
#1533
On December 01 2014 21:34 sicklucker wrote:
Ok so I was curious and I went through bats filter looking for things on ls. He literately ignored the fact hes even in this game. He mentions him twice early and town reading, another saying GJ!. Man I think we have them, their interactions are so strange

I would really wait till LS flips.
You have a bad habit of associating people before scum flips.

It generally tends to be inaccurate and a waste of time because more often than not, the dude is gonna flip town.
No gg, No skill.
sicklucker
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada16987 Posts
December 01 2014 12:54 GMT
#1534
On December 01 2014 06:06 Damdred wrote:
Our teams are close

Top 4:
Oats
Rd
Meat

You shouldn't sleep on breath or lightning, could be a legit fake role block to look town.

Tommorow if I die lynch meat no matter what and then 're evaluated


I think id take out oats from his list breske or hopeless make more sense to me

So thats one possible team we should probably worry about and why I originally wanted to lynch meat, but I dont see meat with bats so lynching him to hit both teams makes no sense to me now Ls is a better candidate for that.
Breshke
Profile Joined July 2014
Australia3749 Posts
December 01 2014 13:10 GMT
#1535
SL justify your shit pleae
Half the Sky
Profile Joined May 2014
Germany9029 Posts
December 01 2014 13:16 GMT
#1536
On December 01 2014 21:23 Breshke wrote:
I'm feeling a lot better about this game because I am now fairly sure rsoultin is town and if anyone disagrees they should say so we can discuss it.


I have felt this way for awhile, and that is why I refused to change my vote to Rasputin. If he was scum, he should have voted me down, in fact he should have quick hammered me for both a modkill (Kush) and the vote kill (me) and then town still would have been worse off. That plus N2 would have taken us directly to mylo (5:3).

I was actually waiting for Rasputin's vote - the rest of the lynch mob was predictable at that time - and it didn't happen.

I still have a major problem the way Bats held me hostage. If this is a common town-on-town tactic, someone please tell me it is, because it's just wrong. Look at EoD #2 again. He pleads Damdred to change even though the latter said before he was reluctant to switch back to me. Damdred grilled me, we had a philosopical difference on meta, we spent 40+ minutes clashing before he accepted my train of thought. A reasonable townsperson (which Damdred was) flipped, who relied on his Bats meta would have grilled me, a new player, someone he didn't know.

I swear I thought I would throw these assumptions away after EoD 2 but this shit (along with the question dodging) keeps coming up again. WHY!?!?!!?!?
The phoenix must burn to emerge. - Janet Fitch
sicklucker
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada16987 Posts
December 01 2014 13:17 GMT
#1537
Justify what? Im pointing out different scenarios in case were wrong
Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
December 01 2014 13:19 GMT
#1538
On December 01 2014 22:17 sicklucker wrote:
Justify what? Im pointing out different scenarios in case were wrong

Stop wasting your time lol.

Look for scum independently of who their teammates could be.
No gg, No skill.
Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
December 01 2014 13:19 GMT
#1539
For example, I barely talked to breshke or mentioned him. Town does this sorta thing too.
No gg, No skill.
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
December 01 2014 13:22 GMT
#1540
Okay, so now it's time to be newb and need help.

"hammer" - does that mean vote? cause "hammer" sounds negative lol

And I am reading the damn timestamp right this time, right? We've got more than 24 hours left?
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
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