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batsnacks
Profile Blog Joined April 2014
United States4466 Posts
December 01 2014 19:40 GMT
#1561
Damdred's final 3 are all on LS.

So are mine.

lol
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
December 01 2014 19:58 GMT
#1562
Damdred was town. Doesn't make him infallible. If you have a case, make it @bats

Dodging questions and not backing up your statements looks scummy, even taking out what I personally think of your play. Continually trying to hide behind your association with Damdred instead of building any credibility of your own through reads and trying to figure out the game also strikes me as scummy.

Why is LS a bad lynch if he's mafia? Why did you say that?
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
batsnacks
Profile Blog Joined April 2014
United States4466 Posts
December 01 2014 20:02 GMT
#1563
On December 02 2014 04:58 rsoultin wrote:
Damdred was town. Doesn't make him infallible. If you have a case, make it @bats

Dodging questions and not backing up your statements looks scummy, even taking out what I personally think of your play. Continually trying to hide behind your association with Damdred instead of building any credibility of your own through reads and trying to figure out the game also strikes me as scummy.

Why is LS a bad lynch if he's mafia? Why did you say that?


If you think I'm scummy you should vote me.

But you won't because then your scum buddy meat will get lynched.
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
December 01 2014 20:07 GMT
#1564
Lol I won't because I know people are on the fence and LS is the better lynch. I think you both are scum. Your case, bats?
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
batsnacks
Profile Blog Joined April 2014
United States4466 Posts
December 01 2014 20:13 GMT
#1565
quid pro quo

and you have nothing I want
Breshke
Profile Joined July 2014
Australia3749 Posts
December 01 2014 22:08 GMT
#1566
Bats you realise LS will be lynched here. You dont want this to happen yet you wont say anything to try convince people otherwise. Explain how this is ever a good play for someone who is town to do
Half the Sky
Profile Joined May 2014
Germany9029 Posts
December 01 2014 22:42 GMT
#1567
Bats: Regarding Meat and LS, this is what I don't understand...
1 What actions (NOT lurkiness/afk) have you noticed make Meat more scummy than LS?
2 Compare LS's lurkiness to that of Meatpudding (or Hopeless) and why you think it's more/less scumlike.

(If anyone else wants to answer the above, that's fine too.)

As I've said before, both need to go. But either defend your current ideas, refute the current sentiment present, or present one of your alternatives.

Whether or not you want to use meta, I don't care at this point, but you have been doing none of the above.
The phoenix must burn to emerge. - Janet Fitch
Breshke
Profile Joined July 2014
Australia3749 Posts
December 01 2014 23:06 GMT
#1568
On December 01 2014 20:42 batsnacks wrote:
What's sad is at least 1 townie is voting lightning.


Also this post worry's me bats.
batsnacks
Profile Blog Joined April 2014
United States4466 Posts
December 01 2014 23:10 GMT
#1569
I really don't feel like suffering through three days of lylo with you people. It's just not worth it especially when oats, if mafia, will be legitimately difficult to lynch.

Like meat should be the easiest lynch ever. If we can't get that right without me holding everyone's hand I give up.
Breshke
Profile Joined July 2014
Australia3749 Posts
December 01 2014 23:22 GMT
#1570
"Youre all bad vote meat"

Im sure that will convince a lot of people.

Rsoultin and others on LS what do you think of meatpudding coming back to the thread just to say he will vote LS to save his life then define what hammer means but not actually try to find scum or say why he shouldn't be lynched? Does he even think LS is scum? we are one of lylo if he doesn't want to be lynched he should be pushing for someone he thinks is scum not the opposite wagon.
Half the Sky
Profile Joined May 2014
Germany9029 Posts
December 02 2014 00:02 GMT
#1571
Breshke and others: Meatpudding has already done that - check his most recent post. Last page I think.

Bats: Thank you for being honest here. I know you are frustrated, LYLO sucks. But you feel that way about someone in lategame, this ALSO involves helping yourself and building some credibility in the process. Because right now, people are doubting you. This is a newcomer game, and we don't have 7 Damdreds here who know you and your meta. Fact.

Again, RNG denied us a cop. This sucks as bad for you as it does the other remaining townies.

If we were already in MYLO then yes, go with Meatpudding absolutely. No question about that.

But there is disagreement on that third scum. Even if we're right on Meat, the problem is we gather NO extra information to split the rest of this group up. We may not be LYLO but we're back to square one with everyone heckling each other.

Others are feeling the same. We feel the information gained PAST Meatpudding is worth potentially being in LYLO. Because beyond Meatpudding, even the townies in this group diverge on the remaining scum.

If somehow Meat does NOT flip scum, then we have no information gained and we are still in LYLO.

Bottom line - Endgaming scum is going to go beyond one vote, Meat or LS, and we feel the information gained is worth that tradeoff. Meat is gone no matter how you slice it.

If you think you have a better lategame strategy, I'm all ears.
The phoenix must burn to emerge. - Janet Fitch
Breshke
Profile Joined July 2014
Australia3749 Posts
December 02 2014 00:13 GMT
#1572
I don't know if im understanding your post properly but from what i gained from it is that you don't want to lynch meat because you think you don't get any information on who the other scum is but you still plan on lynching him tomorrow?

This is a bad play never lynch for information lynch for who you think is scum. HTS who is scummier LS or meat? If you are going into possible lylo do you want meat there? You need to be trying to lynch the scummiest person right now not the person who will give the most information.
Half the Sky
Profile Joined May 2014
Germany9029 Posts
December 02 2014 00:28 GMT
#1573
Breshke, to me they both are. Both are scum. To me, the larger issue is getting everyone on the same page. This is going to be a continuous problem between now and endgame given the reads that everyone has thrown out there. Even if we forego LYLO now, we'll wind up in it later based on how everyone has been playing.

The only reason I say "potentially" and "even if" is because we don't know for sure and we have no outside information that guarantees anything. (The scum knew there was no cop from the off (per rules) so it's likely they are taking advantage of that.)

Now if you think I need to make an argument to him why LS is the way to go, that's another discussion. I have already stated those reasons, but for whatever reason, people are not sold on LS.

This is the problem I'm trying to describe, too many people disagree on too many reads. I'm personally very sure of both.

My personal view? Lynching LS will give us the best of both worlds, scum and a direction to go. Lynching Meat will give us scum...and then more bickering/guessing games.
The phoenix must burn to emerge. - Janet Fitch
Half the Sky
Profile Joined May 2014
Germany9029 Posts
December 02 2014 00:30 GMT
#1574
Now to add to the above, if you think LS is not scum, why not? (If you've said it, let me know the page number.)
The phoenix must burn to emerge. - Janet Fitch
Breshke
Profile Joined July 2014
Australia3749 Posts
December 02 2014 00:33 GMT
#1575
No see what you are saying is so wrong in my opinion.

If you think meat is obvious scum why not vote him. If he flips scum we are not in lylo tomorrow and can still lynch LS if when we reevaluate thats what is decided. The problem is i can see LS being newb town and justify some of the stuff he has done because of that but for meat i cant justify why he wouldn't defend himself or give reads today but still post in the thread that he is going to vote to save himself.
Breshke
Profile Joined July 2014
Australia3749 Posts
December 02 2014 00:38 GMT
#1576
Right now i think they are both scum both are doing nothing right now when both are under pressure, if they are town they are happy just losing the game.
Half the Sky
Profile Joined May 2014
Germany9029 Posts
December 02 2014 00:39 GMT
#1577
You know what....I just thought about it harder. This question of yours gave me pause.

On December 02 2014 09:13 Breshke wrote:
If you are going into possible lylo do you want meat there?


The problem here now wouldn't be meat...in LYLO people do crazy things out of the woodwork to secure the win.

So meat wouldn't be the problem actually in LYLO...it'd be everyone else, as in the scum and the confusion about it. We could very well run into the same problem with LS. We're not absolutely sure.

Let me read sicklucker's post one more time. He pushed the idea to switch to LS.
The phoenix must burn to emerge. - Janet Fitch
sicklucker
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada16987 Posts
December 02 2014 00:40 GMT
#1578
Everything hts is saying is super townie and I agree
Breshke
Profile Joined July 2014
Australia3749 Posts
December 02 2014 00:42 GMT
#1579
SL why are you voting LS over meat?
sicklucker
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada16987 Posts
December 02 2014 00:42 GMT
#1580
Like I dont want to think this is bats attitude in a newbie game. I really hope hes mafia if not he should be banned from them. He knows were new players right?
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