• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EDT 23:27
CEST 05:27
KST 12:27
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
Code S RO8 Preview: herO, Zoun, Bunny, Classic3Code S RO8 Preview: Rogue, GuMiho, Solar, Maru3BGE Stara Zagora 2025: Info & Preview27Code S RO12 Preview: GuMiho, Bunny, SHIN, ByuN3The Memories We Share - Facing the Final(?) GSL47
Community News
BGE Stara Zagora 2025 - Replay Pack2Weekly Cups (June 2-8): herO doubles down1[BSL20] ProLeague: Bracket Stage & Dates9GSL Ro4 and Finals moved to Sunday June 15th13Weekly Cups (May 27-June 1): ByuN goes back-to-back0
StarCraft 2
General
Jim claims he and Firefly were involved in match-fixing Code S RO8 Preview: herO, Zoun, Bunny, Classic The SCII GOAT: A statistical Evaluation DreamHack Dallas 2025 - Official Replay Pack BGE Stara Zagora 2025 - Replay Pack
Tourneys
[GSL 2025] Code S:Season 2 - RO8 - Group A RSL: Revival, a new crowdfunded tournament series SOOPer7s Showmatches 2025 Sparkling Tuna Cup - Weekly Open Tournament Sea Duckling Open (Global, Bronze-Diamond)
Strategy
[G] Darkgrid Layout Simple Questions Simple Answers [G] PvT Cheese: 13 Gate Proxy Robo
Custom Maps
[UMS] Zillion Zerglings
External Content
Mutation # 477 Slow and Steady Mutation # 476 Charnel House Mutation # 475 Hard Target Mutation # 474 Futile Resistance
Brood War
General
BW General Discussion BGH auto balance -> http://bghmmr.eu/ FlaSh Witnesses SCV Pull Off the Impossible vs Shu StarCraft & BroodWar Campaign Speedrun Quest Will foreigners ever be able to challenge Koreans?
Tourneys
NA Team League 6/8/2025 [ASL19] Grand Finals [BSL20] GosuLeague RO16 - Tue & Wed 20:00+CET [Megathread] Daily Proleagues
Strategy
I am doing this better than progamers do. [G] How to get started on ladder as a new Z player
Other Games
General Games
Nintendo Switch Thread Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread Beyond All Reason Path of Exile What do you want from future RTS games?
Dota 2
Official 'what is Dota anymore' discussion
League of Legends
Heroes of the Storm
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Heroes of StarCraft mini-set
TL Mafia
TL Mafia Community Thread Vanilla Mini Mafia
Community
General
US Politics Mega-thread Things Aren’t Peaceful in Palestine UK Politics Mega-thread Russo-Ukrainian War Thread Vape Nation Thread
Fan Clubs
Maru Fan Club Serral Fan Club
Media & Entertainment
Korean Music Discussion [Manga] One Piece
Sports
2024 - 2025 Football Thread Formula 1 Discussion NHL Playoffs 2024
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
Computer Build, Upgrade & Buying Resource Thread
TL Community
The Automated Ban List
Blogs
A Better Routine For Progame…
TrAiDoS
StarCraft improvement
iopq
Heero Yuy & the Tax…
KrillinFromwales
I was completely wrong ab…
jameswatts
Need Your Help/Advice
Glider
Trip to the Zoo
micronesia
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 26916 users

Campus Mafia (New/Newish Players Welcome)

Forum Index > TL Mafia
Post a Reply
Normal
ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
October 30 2014 02:21 GMT
#42
On October 28 2014 09:14 Superbia wrote:
/in. Don't really need coach (i.e. has no priority).


This guy needs 5 coaches.
Retired.
ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
November 08 2014 00:23 GMT
#1598
Hi. I have no idea what's going on.

Don't lynch me though. I'm town.
Retired.
ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
November 08 2014 00:24 GMT
#1599
Holy shit how did you guys lynch the cop day 1?
Retired.
ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
November 08 2014 00:28 GMT
#1601
I'm not even remotely caught up with the game. I'm reading through stuff now but I'll try to interact and stuff.

Anyone around to talk?
Retired.
ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
November 08 2014 00:33 GMT
#1605
On November 08 2014 09:28 Fecalfeast wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 08 2014 09:24 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
Holy shit how did you guys lynch the cop day 1?

kelsier(you) counterclaimed and didn't rescind his claim til 3 mins before deadline.

You were the slot that was going to be lynched before kush got domed


This didn't actually happen.

...Did it?
Retired.
ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
November 08 2014 00:40 GMT
#1608
Christ on a bicycle.

Okay.

I'm catching up as we speak.
Retired.
ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
November 08 2014 00:56 GMT
#1612
Normally I just keep up-to-date with the thread and comment on current events, only posting my reads and such after I've looked through the thread.

I like your attitude, though.
Retired.
ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
November 08 2014 00:56 GMT
#1613
On November 08 2014 09:53 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 08 2014 09:28 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
I'm not even remotely caught up with the game. I'm reading through stuff now but I'll try to interact and stuff.

Anyone around to talk?

yo you are scum?


Yeah totes.
Retired.
ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
November 08 2014 01:00 GMT
#1616
Okay, I'll shoot him tonight.

Who do you want roleblocked?
Retired.
ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
November 08 2014 05:53 GMT
#1655
I'm on page 26 but I'm tired.

I can easily see a world where Sentinel flips scum. Is the game that easy? It very well could be.

I haven't looked into Superbia in the slightest.

Inclined to townread SL, rayn, and Breshke. SL's confidence is rather frightening but that's about it. Serejai seems townish I guess, but I haven't looked into him enough to be confident one way or the other. I'm sure there are some other players in this game but I forget who they are, so it's probably fine.

I can (mostly) explain these if need be.

Going to bed. I'm probably not going to get shot so I have plenty of time.
Retired.
ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
November 08 2014 14:18 GMT
#1670
On November 08 2014 19:04 Breshke wrote:
For when you wake up obi is your town read on rayn based off sstuff you have read from the person he replaced or his own play?


Mostly his own play. He looks okay based on the stuff I've seen from him thus far.

I can't even remember who he replaced but I'll look into it when I can be assed.
Retired.
ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
November 08 2014 14:27 GMT
#1672
On November 08 2014 23:25 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Kelsier had really easy-to-follow posts and really good reads.
This is probably the best:
Show nested quote +
On November 04 2014 08:16 KelsierSC wrote:
as for.my scum i like the read that Elvis has on sentinal. Also sentinal has spent a lot of the game discussing mechanics, set ups and strategies which is like a good way to try and appear helpful to town but doesn't actually help.

..which is exactly why i have a strong scumread on Sentinel.

Basically if you count out the claim shennies (which could be seen scummy) there is absolutely nothing scummy he has done, he squirts green all over the place.


Seems unhealthy.
Retired.
ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
November 08 2014 14:31 GMT
#1677
<3

I'm going to be phoneposting for the majority of today so I won't be caught up until way later. Anything anyone wants me to take a look at real quick?
Retired.
ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
November 08 2014 14:37 GMT
#1679
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/469857-campus-mafia-new-newish-players-welcome?page=83#1647

This post made me laugh. So he gets a townread. Plus I have a really hard time believing that any of the newbies would be able to maintain a 9 page filter and look okay throughout the whole ordeal as mafia.

I'm catching up and keeping up with current events at the same time.
Retired.
ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
November 08 2014 15:30 GMT
#1681
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/469857-campus-mafia-new-newish-players-welcome?page=30#587

How did he have any votes on him after this? :|
Retired.
ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
November 08 2014 19:55 GMT
#1696
That's me you dingus.
Retired.
ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
November 08 2014 19:56 GMT
#1697
Yeah I have nothing new to add. I'm on page 42 atm and not a whole lot worth talking about.
Retired.
ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
November 08 2014 20:03 GMT
#1698
On November 09 2014 04:36 sicklucker wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 09 2014 04:33 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Who the hell is Artanis?


er I donno the new guy that ksc got replaced by. Hes been really townie but the guy hes replacing it would hard to go to the end of the gmae with that guy.


Also I don't actually understand what you're saying here.
Retired.
ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
November 08 2014 20:21 GMT
#1702
Maybe I actually am Artanis.
Retired.
ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
November 08 2014 20:24 GMT
#1706
Curses, my plan has been foiled.
Retired.
ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
November 09 2014 05:05 GMT
#1811
Lmao no kill.

Do I need to actually reread this game? 'Cause if I don't, I won't. Simple.

I'm on page 48 right now and I'm blatantly putting off my reread.
Retired.
ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
November 09 2014 05:09 GMT
#1812
On November 09 2014 13:09 Breshke wrote:
serejai/bats- Town

Sent/one of the new guys - Mafia

Other than sent im not actually sure I havn't thought about it that much and the only reason it isn't you or superbia is because I don't think you guys are with sentinel. Also I give you a certain amount of town cred because without

Show nested quote +
On November 08 2014 06:58 Fecalfeast wrote:
would shennannie onto kush if others are here


I don't think kush would have been lynched.


How is it that you came to the conclusion that Sentinel and either me/rayn are mafia?

Both of us want to kill him, so this means that you think one of us is bussing him because unicorns.
Retired.
ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
November 09 2014 05:40 GMT
#1814
If you have us there for no reason then why would you drop our names onto your scumlist?
Retired.
ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
November 09 2014 06:00 GMT
#1815
You gave reasons to read both of us as town but you still dropped us on your scumlist for no reason.
Retired.
ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
November 09 2014 22:12 GMT
#1952
Because they get counterclaimed and they die.
Retired.
ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
November 09 2014 22:14 GMT
#1954
Sure, why not.
Retired.
ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
November 09 2014 22:17 GMT
#1956
(I think this is the part where everyone realizes they haven't read the OP: neither the medic nor the target are notified.

Hue.)
Retired.
ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
November 09 2014 22:30 GMT
#1964
On November 10 2014 07:27 Elvis! wrote:
Obi KSC admittedly fake-claimed , but you live ... hmmmmm....


I'm sorry.

What are you doing?
Retired.
ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
November 09 2014 22:35 GMT
#1974
On November 10 2014 07:31 Elvis! wrote:
Like this is never 100% because, WIFOM, isn't it?


Most claims are taken dead seriously. I'm surprised people saw through KSC's awful play and let this slot live, but I wouldn't be surprised if this slot got lynched for it eventually.

In short: general advice is to take it as seriously as possible and lynch both claims if one flips blue.
Retired.
ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
November 09 2014 22:36 GMT
#1977
On November 10 2014 07:33 Superbia wrote:
Obi did you figure out who the scum is yet? Also, how does it feel to replace scum in this situation? Miss me in the QT?


Sit down, boy. I taught you everything you know, but I didn't teach you everything that I know.

Respect your elders.
Retired.
ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
November 09 2014 22:39 GMT
#1980
I love how we're all calling each other bad in a newbie game.
Retired.
ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
November 09 2014 22:40 GMT
#1983
my feelings nu
Retired.
ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
November 09 2014 22:46 GMT
#1990
On November 10 2014 07:43 Superbia wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 10 2014 07:36 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
On November 10 2014 07:33 Superbia wrote:
Obi did you figure out who the scum is yet? Also, how does it feel to replace scum in this situation? Miss me in the QT?


Sit down, boy. I taught you everything you know, but I didn't teach you everything that I know.

Respect your elders.


Son there is no hierarchy in this classroom.

Any reads yet? You can sheep my explanation on why we should definitely kill the guy who lynched the cop (you) if you want.


I already gave several of my reads.

I refuse to lynch anyone but Sentinel today unless he comes back and is obviously town.

I'm not sheeping onto myself. -.-;

I will give reads on other players when I cba.
Retired.
ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
November 09 2014 23:05 GMT
#2014
On November 10 2014 08:03 Serejai wrote:
Mafia could have not attacked for whatever reason. We have no way of knowing whether or not a shot went off now that the rules in the op have been changed.


This is kind of my concern.

We'll cross that bridge when we get to it.
Retired.
ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
November 09 2014 23:12 GMT
#2027
On November 10 2014 08:07 Superbia wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 10 2014 08:05 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
On November 10 2014 08:03 Serejai wrote:
Mafia could have not attacked for whatever reason. We have no way of knowing whether or not a shot went off now that the rules in the op have been changed.


This is kind of my concern.

We'll cross that bridge when we get to it.


Then rayn is mafia and had to have known 100% where the save is going to be? And then has to explain how is he still alive as confirmed town AND as an experienced player if the game reaches final 3?


He didn't have to know anything: everybody knows where the medic save would have gone if we had one, so having a no-kill would be completely justified if medic never claimed.

I still don't know if bats' claim is serious or not; for some reason my brain doesn't think so.

I think someone already brought up that mafia might not have the option of no-killing.

We are seriously impeded by the fact that we aren't reading the OP properly.
Retired.
ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
November 09 2014 23:31 GMT
#2045
##vote sentinel

Forgot to vote.

Going to play Street Fighter or something.
Retired.
ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
November 09 2014 23:36 GMT
#2051
On November 10 2014 08:35 batsnacks wrote:
I thought it would be night already. Do I have to wait for tomorrow?



Yes, apparently.
Retired.
ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
November 10 2014 00:22 GMT
#2082
##unvote
##vote serejai


Rabble rabble.
Retired.
ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
November 10 2014 00:27 GMT
#2087
Yes, I am the desperate mafia desperately trying to vote off what's probably confirmed town.

You are a genius.
Retired.
ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
November 10 2014 14:07 GMT
#2144
##unvote
##vote sentinel


I don't know when deadline is but I'm probably gonna be around for it.
Retired.
ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
November 10 2014 14:08 GMT
#2145
*Probably not.

I probably won't.
Retired.
ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
November 10 2014 15:37 GMT
#2151
I just discovered Pete Holmes.

He's amazing.
Retired.
ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
November 10 2014 15:43 GMT
#2153
Something about a question not being answered or him not technically being confirmed town.
Retired.
ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
November 10 2014 16:26 GMT
#2179
On November 11 2014 01:04 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 10 2014 08:05 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
On November 10 2014 08:03 Serejai wrote:
Mafia could have not attacked for whatever reason. We have no way of knowing whether or not a shot went off now that the rules in the op have been changed.


This is kind of my concern.

We'll cross that bridge when we get to it.

Mind anyone explain me what this discussion is about?
Cava/Superbia?

From what the OP i am reading i gather it says "each night mafia must choose a player to kill". It's been like this since i first read the OP. "noone" is not a player in this game so explain please?


We ignored the OP for about 10 pages or so.

You know, usual stuff.
Retired.
ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
November 10 2014 16:30 GMT
#2181
Medics aren't notified of saves and mafia is forced to kill.

This was the issue we had.
Retired.
ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
November 10 2014 17:08 GMT
#2200
On November 11 2014 01:35 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 11 2014 01:30 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
Medics aren't notified of saves and mafia is forced to kill.

This was the issue we had.

hmm okay.

There is not gonna be a fucking way mafia shot anyone and roleblocked their shooter.
If that's what happened then whoever did that deserves to win and i raise my hat to them (BECAUSE THE CHANGE WAS MADE 2min BEFORE THE N2 deadline!!!! no time for mafia to react).

Now the situation is:
bats - obvtown
Breshke - obvtown
Serejai - mostly obv town
sicklucker - town

Cava/Fecal/Superbia/Elvis -- I really do not have any fucking idea atm

Sentinel - scummyscumscumclaimedscum

I actually have to do something after this phase... I thought we were gonna win straight up. Can someone of those four claim town so we can just win?


I'm town.

Bam. Game solved.
Retired.
ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
November 10 2014 18:10 GMT
#2206
On November 11 2014 02:37 [UoN]Sentinel wrote:
All of your assumptions hinge on the fact that I am but I'm not


Acting like a useless sack of scum isn't helping your case you jub.
Retired.
ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
November 11 2014 03:01 GMT
#2303
As if that wasn't the most obvious lynch ever.
Retired.
ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
November 11 2014 19:40 GMT
#2316
On November 12 2014 02:31 batsnacks wrote:
I think the last mafia is Superbia.


Probably.
Retired.
ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
November 12 2014 01:06 GMT
#2387
Superbia is mafia for thinking that I'm mafia.

##vote superbia
Retired.
ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
November 12 2014 01:30 GMT
#2390
Not a clue.

I'm not lynching you or SL, that's for certain.
Retired.
ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
November 12 2014 01:33 GMT
#2391
I still haven't even finished my reread. I haven't bothered doing it because I don't see the point; the scumteam is obvious when there are bunch of newbies in the game that look really town.

I don't see a reason to vote FF. I don't see reasons to vote you. I don't see reasons to vote SL. Elvis looks really weird but I don't see the point of lynching him.

I've been pretty lazy thus far, so unless you have an amazing sure-fire lynch inside the guys that all look really town, then let me in the know. Otherwise I'm just going to vote Superbia.
Retired.
ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
November 12 2014 01:35 GMT
#2394
Oh yeah, I forgot about him.

He's town too.
Retired.
ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
November 12 2014 01:35 GMT
#2395
On November 12 2014 10:35 Breshke wrote:
If ff voted for you would you then have as much reason to vote him as you do superbia?


FF isn't the dude with a giant case on him.
Retired.
ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
November 12 2014 01:48 GMT
#2397
Sure?

I'm lynching Superbia though.
Retired.
ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
November 12 2014 02:24 GMT
#2403
If FF is mafia, he can post a fake work schedule or change the times around so that he can be "factually correct."

Or he's town and you wouldn't be able to tell the difference anyway.

It's useless information either way.
Retired.
ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
November 12 2014 02:53 GMT
#2406
Everything SL says is so town.

Cripes. Who's the jubber still trying to lynch him?
Retired.
ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
November 12 2014 03:25 GMT
#2414
On November 12 2014 12:18 Fecalfeast wrote:
so let me get this straight, your scumread on me that makes me the best lynch today is my being afk with my vote on a counterclaimed cop deadline D1 and my 30s late vote D2? Solid case. I should probably just concede since you totally outed me in front of everyone.

I can't believe I made such a scumslip. To be confused when the person who counter-claimed the cop votes for someone other than who he was counterclaiming is probably the scummiest thing anyone in any mafia game has done.

sicklucker if you're the last scum and we lose because nobody listened I'll be so mad.


Did you actually say a thing about him or are you being sarcastic?

I don't know. I'm not paying attention.
Retired.
ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
November 12 2014 03:26 GMT
#2416
On November 12 2014 12:21 sicklucker wrote:
Final Vote Count


Kushm4sta (4): [UoN]Sentinel, batsnacks, Breshke, sicklucker
sicklucker (3): Elvis!, Serejai, FecalFeast
KelsierSC (1): Superbia
[UoN]Sentinel (1): kushm4sta

Not Voting (2): KelsierSC, Immateria

Wow both sent and kush coulda hammered on me mafia has played so bad they dont deserve to win. The reason I said ff was the hammer here is because I felt like he was waiting for one of his two buddys to log on and save themselves. When he realized they were not I feel like he changed his vote after blaze said voting is over to save face but it was not counted.

(and yes im aware this vote count makes me look mafia I wouldnt bring it up if I was)


This is actually a really good reason to lynch you.
Retired.
ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
November 12 2014 03:35 GMT
#2419
Just quote it or something.

If it's good I'll sheep it.
Retired.
ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
November 12 2014 03:43 GMT
#2424
On November 12 2014 12:36 Fecalfeast wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 12 2014 12:35 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
Just quote it or something.

If it's good I'll sheep it.

nah, you can read the thread I'm tired of talking to myself.


Heh, alright. I owe you so I'll look in a little while.
Retired.
ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
November 12 2014 03:52 GMT
#2426
FF your entire filter is so broken up that I can't piece together what you're trying to say. All I saw was stuff about bluehunting.

@SL: Your case on FF is awful.
Retired.
ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
November 12 2014 04:02 GMT
#2429
While Criketer was in the game the only line he gave us was mega-scummy.
Retired.
ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
November 12 2014 04:09 GMT
#2431
God, SL's filter is completely unreadable. It's like looking into a poorly written sun.

I'm just kind of annoyed now that I'm looking at it.
Retired.
ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
November 12 2014 04:10 GMT
#2432
On November 12 2014 13:09 Fecalfeast wrote:
Okay sicklucker I'll lay it all out for you. If you still don't believe me by all means continue.

1. Normally deadline is later in the day. The earliest deadline for a game i have been a part of before this was 4pm (this one is 2pm for me) I usually sleep from 2-4am until 10-1

2. I do not and will not use my phone while driving.

3. I combust cannabis on the daily and was legitimately distracted at deadline d2

4. (Wifom)i would have conceded by now


Obi, yeah he's inconsistent and spent d1 and 2 bluehunting


Bluehunting on its own doesn't make a spectacular case.

You got anything else?

I'm not happy about his defenses either, and the votecount he just posted is enough to warrant a lynch all on its own.
Retired.
ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
November 12 2014 04:20 GMT
#2435
Meh, okay. I'll parse through his whole filter though, so it'll take a while.

I just can't fathom why he would post that votecount. Even if he's town he doesn't want to bring that up because that's asinine.
Retired.
ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
November 12 2014 04:26 GMT
#2439
You're underestimating how much effort I'll put into reading stuff once I get off my ass.
Retired.
ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
November 12 2014 04:28 GMT
#2440
How is it that SL knows what the term donkey means?

That's a video mafia term. Hasn't he been marketing himself as a newbie all game?
Retired.
ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
November 12 2014 04:32 GMT
#2443
Nah, nevermind, I saw that he watches all-star.
Retired.
ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
November 12 2014 04:32 GMT
#2444
Well now it's apparent that I don't refresh this page during my filter dives.
Retired.
ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
November 12 2014 04:38 GMT
#2446
##unvote
##vote fecalfeast


You are mafia for accusing me of such a thing. How dare you.
Retired.
ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
November 12 2014 04:49 GMT
#2447
##unvote
##vote sicklucker


If the scumteam killed themselves to frame you, then I hope it was worth it.

Two mafia for a town is an...Interesting trade.
Retired.
ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
November 12 2014 04:57 GMT
#2449
Handing out evidence is stupid regardless of alignment.

So are information lynches.

But apparently you thought that both of these things were good ideas.
Retired.
ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
November 12 2014 06:14 GMT
#2459
##unvote

Idk. I don't see much there when it comes to the endvote since kush and Sentinel were nowhere to be found.

I need time to think about where this goes.
Retired.
ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
November 12 2014 21:46 GMT
#2504
Hey, he likes me.
Retired.
ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
November 12 2014 22:14 GMT
#2509
Are we having fun?

I'm having fun.

This game is fun.
Retired.
ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
November 12 2014 22:46 GMT
#2517
I'm pretty town, imo.
Retired.
ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
November 12 2014 22:49 GMT
#2519
In all seriousness, if the counterclaim thing is going to be that big of an issue that I'd suggest you get it out of the way before lylo. I'm not going to hang around in this game the whole time just to up and get lynched because of something my predecessor did.

I'm town. I'm not going to bother explaining KSC's claim because I can't. If you've got questions, ask them. I'll do the best I can.

Otherwise, look at other suspects. End of.
Retired.
ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
November 12 2014 22:50 GMT
#2522
On November 13 2014 07:50 Superbia wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 13 2014 07:49 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
In all seriousness, if the counterclaim thing is going to be that big of an issue that I'd suggest you get it out of the way before lylo. I'm not going to hang around in this game the whole time just to up and get lynched because of something my predecessor did.

I'm town. I'm not going to bother explaining KSC's claim because I can't. If you've got questions, ask them. I'll do the best I can.

Otherwise, look at other suspects. End of.


What do you actually plan to do this game?


Lynch mafia.
Retired.
ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
November 12 2014 23:04 GMT
#2524
I've announced that I'm not actually rereading the thread because scum is getting rolled.

The one thing I've really payed attention to is SL's filter and it doesn't look spectacular on close inspection. That's about it.

I don't know what your angle is here, aside from you pushing me for being lazy/my predecessor making an awful move.
Retired.
ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
November 12 2014 23:08 GMT
#2526
Except SL tried to lynch someone else to create more "information."

So it wasn't really unanimous until later.

I'm sure there's some other stuff there but I might look into it later.

Might.
Retired.
ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
November 12 2014 23:32 GMT
#2533
On November 13 2014 08:18 Superbia wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 13 2014 08:04 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
I've announced that I'm not actually rereading the thread because scum is getting rolled.

The one thing I've really payed attention to is SL's filter and it doesn't look spectacular on close inspection. That's about it.

I don't know what your angle is here, aside from you pushing me for being lazy/my predecessor making an awful move.


Like there's two ways you come into a thread as a standin, either you read the entire thread, which is usually boring as shit. Or you start asking questions and interact with everyone to see where everyone is at. Or some kind of combination. It's one thing to be lazy, it's another to do absolutely fuck all. Like all of the town standins I've seen come into the thread guns blazing in some sort of way. They do something like immediately declare that they're not going to read the entire thread and/or they just fucking go and do shit. Like they immediately jump in and start interacting and reading when necessary.

You haven't done anything. At all. You've made a promise about reading the thread, which in all honesty, I don't give a shit about. I could've told you exactly what happened from my POV if you bothered to fucking ask. A promise to read the thread, feeling dejected about it and then just doing nothing else is exactly what I expect a mafia subbing in to do here. There were other options you could've pursued after you figured out that reading the thread was not going to work for you, you did none of them. I was in the exact same situation last game, where I subbed into a mafia spot and mafia were losing hard, and your mind set feels completely similar.


That's nice.

Can't base a case on "feels" though, so you'll have to do better than that.
Retired.
ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
November 12 2014 23:34 GMT
#2535
The one question you'll really have to answer is this:

How do you separate mafia laziness from town laziness? How does me being lazy make me scum in this circumstance? Is there a reasonable explanation for my laziness?

All you're doing is harping on "he's lazy like I was so he's mafia," which isn't going to convince anyone ever.
Retired.
ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
November 12 2014 23:36 GMT
#2537
Much case. Very convince.

Wowe.
Retired.
ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
November 12 2014 23:37 GMT
#2539
Yeah you're right, that's why I tried to do a catch up, came to the conclusion that Sentinel was mafia based on the short reread that I did, and then promised to stop doing it because town was running shit hard.

So mafia.
Retired.
ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
November 12 2014 23:44 GMT
#2541
General consensus seems to have landed on SL, which I'm okay with based on my reread.
Retired.
ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
November 13 2014 05:59 GMT
#2590
Seriously doubt Serejai is actually scum, but I doubted that Bats was actually the medic so what do I know.
Retired.
ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
November 13 2014 15:27 GMT
#2603
On November 13 2014 21:46 Serejai wrote:
sicklucker, as much as I hate to say it... you're town.

Breshke also seems town based on his responses.

Obiwan why do you doubt I am scum? That sounds like a convenient cover for you to use if I get lynched and flip town. "I told you guys!". You've admitted that you don't read the thread, and yet you're somehow confident I am town; even more confident than people like rayn who had me confirmed as town nearly all game. Do you know something the rest of us don't?

Superbia, you didn't seem very convinced, either. Why is that?

Out of everyone who has posted a comment, I would say the actual scum is either Obiwan, Elvis, or Superbia based on the responses. Fecal's responses could be seen as scummy but I'm more inclined to believe he's just a bad player; same reason I think sicklucker is town now.


Because you conceding as mafia here makes no sense. Scum doesn't think like that.
Retired.
ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
November 13 2014 20:31 GMT
#2695
Fuck I forgot I wasn't voting.

I'll probably just sheep rayn in like an hour or so.
Retired.
ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
November 13 2014 21:43 GMT
#2733
On November 14 2014 06:42 raynpelikoneet wrote:
##unvote
##vote ObiWanShinobi


wat
Retired.
ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
November 13 2014 21:44 GMT
#2737
y u do dis
Retired.
ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
November 13 2014 21:46 GMT
#2742
Don't buy what? Idgi.
Retired.
ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
November 13 2014 21:47 GMT
#2743
Rayn, you literally couldn't have picked a worse time to try to lynch me. I've got like 40 minutes before I have to do RL stuff so let's try to make this reasonably quick.
Retired.
ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
November 13 2014 21:52 GMT
#2749
Fuck, when is EoD?

Alright, my read on him was based on him saying stuff that made me giggle and him being fairly productive when in-thread.

Fecalfeast was the one convincing me to vote him based on his filter, which upon closer inspection looked fairly padded and had some questionable actions, such as his so called "information lynches" and his insistence on bluehunting.

Is it grounds for a lynch? Maybe. Maybe not. I unvoted him at some point because I realized that an afk scumteam never would have had the opportunity to switch to him over kush.

I haven't put in the time or effort to warrant following up on it, so meh.
Retired.
ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
November 13 2014 21:52 GMT
#2752
Oh god damn it you guys.

##vote elvis

Literally the worst timing.
Retired.
ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
November 13 2014 21:53 GMT
#2754
Well I'm prbs dead.

Meh. I was town.
Retired.
ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
November 13 2014 21:54 GMT
#2757
Or he'll just do nothing and nobody will care.
Retired.
ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
November 13 2014 21:55 GMT
#2760
At the very least we get rid of a question mark in KSC's claim.

So good luck I guess.
Retired.
ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
November 13 2014 21:55 GMT
#2762
On November 14 2014 06:54 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 14 2014 06:52 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
Fuck, when is EoD?

Alright, my read on him was based on him saying stuff that made me giggle and him being fairly productive when in-thread.

Fecalfeast was the one convincing me to vote him based on his filter, which upon closer inspection looked fairly padded and had some questionable actions, such as his so called "information lynches" and his insistence on bluehunting.

Is it grounds for a lynch? Maybe. Maybe not. I unvoted him at some point because I realized that an afk scumteam never would have had the opportunity to switch to him over kush.

I haven't put in the time or effort to warrant following up on it, so meh.

I don't even know who fecalfeast convinced you to vote for but i think you think he is mafia (at least thought today) so no... Doesn't fly.


I never said that fecalfeast is mafia.
Retired.
ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
November 13 2014 21:56 GMT
#2763
And he convinced me to vote SL.

The guy who you're accusing me of not reading properly.
Retired.
ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
November 13 2014 21:57 GMT
#2765
On November 14 2014 06:56 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 12 2014 13:38 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
##unvote
##vote fecalfeast


You are mafia for accusing me of such a thing. How dare you.

oh rly?


Clearly not a serious vote.

-.-
Retired.
ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
November 13 2014 21:58 GMT
#2767
I throw out one joke vote and I'm not playing to win?

Are you being serious?
Retired.
ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
November 13 2014 21:59 GMT
#2773
On November 14 2014 06:58 Serejai wrote:
I'm always serious. Those of us who are town never make jokes. Play to win or don't play at all.


Not the tone I got from your other posts, but whatever.

I guess we're just making up rules as we go.
Retired.
ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
November 13 2014 22:00 GMT
#2776
On November 14 2014 06:59 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 14 2014 06:58 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
I throw out one joke vote and I'm not playing to win?

Are you being serious?

Have you been serious in this game?
Like srsly srs?


50/50
Retired.
ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
November 13 2014 22:02 GMT
#2783
RAYN
Retired.
ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
November 13 2014 22:02 GMT
#2784
GAHD
Retired.
ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
November 13 2014 22:03 GMT
#2787
I WAS THIS CLOSE RAYN

THIS CLOSE
Retired.
ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
November 13 2014 22:04 GMT
#2789
On November 14 2014 07:03 Serejai wrote:
rayn confirmed scum for that last second vote switch


Yes we lynch rayn tomorrow for saving his scumpartner.
Retired.
ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
November 13 2014 22:06 GMT
#2792
I swore I thought I had another hour to do stuff.

Wake up call, much.
Retired.
ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
November 13 2014 22:10 GMT
#2800
Pretty sure everybody has to stop fucking around now.

I'll pay attention to this game when I get home.
Retired.
ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
November 14 2014 23:17 GMT
#2815
Retired.
ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
November 15 2014 01:10 GMT
#2826
On November 15 2014 08:39 Breshke wrote:
Obi why shouldnt we lynch you today and who should we lynch instead?


A) Because I am town.
B) Someone else.
Retired.
ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
November 15 2014 01:10 GMT
#2827
I'll answer you properly when I'm done with my offsite obligations.

Rayn being dead means I actually have to do stuff since I was banking on him carrying me to victory. =/
Retired.
ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
November 15 2014 01:24 GMT
#2829
Yeah, well I can't feel my legs anymore.

Doesn't mean that means anything, either.
Retired.
ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
November 15 2014 01:31 GMT
#2831
Don't tempt me bby. :>
Retired.
ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
November 15 2014 05:14 GMT
#2847
On November 15 2014 13:33 Breshke wrote:
Ff what do you think of superbiad play this game


Best typo ever.
Retired.
ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
November 15 2014 05:20 GMT
#2848
Why is SL talking about killing serejai?
Retired.
ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
November 15 2014 07:03 GMT
#2849
I thought I'd be able to spend lots of time on this game tonight, but I can't.

Things that are currently on my mind:

*FF/SL's read progression. FF came in and voted me based on meta, then changed his read on me later on based on nothing. Need some explaining for this. SL called my slot town when he replaced in, then scumread my slot later based on my reads being sheepable and then nothing else. Both of these players wound up asking for my vote at some point or another, so I don't particularly understand where these reads are coming from when I was so trustworthy to begin with.

*If Superbia decides that his "swag roleblock" and "cop killer" case is still really strong and that it's a thing worth pursuing, then lynch him. Running with the "scum for killing our cop" storyline is something that scum does, because it's so obvious a thread that can be pulled without ruffling any feathers about it being a leap of logic or what have you. It's an inherently safe lynch for mafia to push, so if he sticks to his guns, hold him accountable.

The most irritating part about this push is the fact that there's no way I can possibly defend myself from it, considering that I'm not KSC and I can't give you his reasoning on why he did the things he did.

*I'm not voting Breshke.

*I don't understand where the scumreads on Serejai came from. If someone could explain that to me, that would be great.

If I had a gun to my head and I had to pick one person to lynch right now, I'd say it would be SL. His reads are mostly noncommittal and it looks like he's a politician keeping his options open. His reads flip around for little to no reason over and over, and he might be the source of confusion that's fucking everyone up right now.

If anyone has questions, hit me. I'll be around when I can but tomorrow night is when I'm digging in my heels.
Retired.
ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
November 15 2014 07:12 GMT
#2852
On November 15 2014 16:09 Fecalfeast wrote:
also my read on you is based on you popping into thread multiple times and then disappearing. Classic scumlurker obiwan


The difference here is context.

I'm lurking a lot this game because town is rolling scum and there were a couple of townie-looking dudes leading us to mafia. I can't sit back anymore because the last one actually seems pretty well hidden.

I wound up lurking in lylo in Werewolf because Storr and Ve were tunneling each other and I had no need to post.

I'd suggest reading Damdred's hosting analysis from the end of that game before coming to the conclusion that I'm scum since I'm lurking.
Retired.
ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
November 15 2014 07:13 GMT
#2853
On November 15 2014 16:08 Fecalfeast wrote:
serejai literally claimed scum


Is he scum though?
Retired.
ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
November 15 2014 07:20 GMT
#2856
On November 15 2014 16:17 Fecalfeast wrote:
you're all potentially scum in my mind but serejai atleast has the stupid roleblock stuff as evidence for towniness


So you have no townreads whatsoever?
Retired.
ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
November 15 2014 07:31 GMT
#2860
On November 15 2014 16:25 Fecalfeast wrote:
1.breshke deserves the win if he's last scum.
2.serejai assuming roleblocks are pmed to vts she is town or the roleblocker who never roleblocked anyone to confirm herself



You just said you were willing to lynch Breshke, though.

Superbia claimed rb earlier on as well, so we have a roleblocker in the setup.
Retired.
ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
November 15 2014 18:28 GMT
#2903
##vote sicklucker

For a guy that puts so much emphasis on rayn calling you town, you don't really put a whole lot of stock into the fact that he saved my life at the last second.
Retired.
ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
November 15 2014 19:09 GMT
#2904
Your case is incredibly convoluted, and also wrong. SL, if you actually want to live today, you need to deliver an ironclad case on mafia. Making up "motive" is not going to cut it.

Can someone tell me where Superbiad went? He threw such a hissy about me not doing stuff and he hasn't even played for the entirety of today, lol.
Retired.
ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
November 15 2014 19:14 GMT
#2906
Both.
Retired.
ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
November 16 2014 01:16 GMT
#2920
I don't know how I feel about killing SL right now.
Retired.
ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
November 16 2014 01:28 GMT
#2921
On November 16 2014 07:45 sicklucker wrote:
Hum of course obiwan votes me scum. mafia does it 10/10, town does it most of the time too. Im fairly certain super votes him as well who I have a pretty town read on for someone who posted so little so I dont expect him to change that.
Thats 2-2 as expected which is why I said your vote is big here ff. Im taking alot of risk of you or super turning scum here thats how sure I am obis mafia now.

As rayn pointed out and kind of the main reason he almost pushed a vote against him last week he changed his mind about me pretty easy and sheeped ff. Im dead tormorow if not today theirs only town motivation here. Even if im myslynched make sure you get obi when I turn town tormorow im not going super hard to defend myself now that I narrowed it from 2 to 1 and me dying does not matter as much.

Looks like im going to get hammered tonight on short notice on little sleep so thats probably all your getting out of me untill close to vote time have fun and vote well. I feel I moved the conversation forward all game and that should be worth alot here, over someone who killed are cop and half his posts were jokes.


Just an fyi, telling people that I'm mafia for whatever the fuck it is you posted is only going to get you killed faster.
Retired.
ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
November 16 2014 01:48 GMT
#2922
Actually, when you get a chance, answer this question for me:

How much does omgus play into your read?
Retired.
ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
November 16 2014 02:18 GMT
#2923
I'm getting really uncomfortable with how quiet everyone is.

The game didn't end just because we caught the first two.
Retired.
ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
November 16 2014 02:23 GMT
#2925
If I had an answer, I wouldn't be asking questions.
Retired.
ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
November 16 2014 02:43 GMT
#2927
Not entirely sure atm. I've got a lot of murky thoughts about this game and I'm having a lot of trouble vocalizing them.
Retired.
ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
November 16 2014 02:46 GMT
#2928
Like...I have the feeling there's this giant blind spot in my view of the game that I really need to look at.

I just can't seem to tell what that is.
Retired.
ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
November 16 2014 02:54 GMT
#2930
##unvote
Retired.
ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
November 16 2014 02:55 GMT
#2931
On November 16 2014 11:53 Breshke wrote:
Intresting, my problem is i keep finding reasons to read ff, superbia and SL as town but then i keep flipping on those reasons. Then theres you who i have literally no idea about based on your play and a weird townread based on KSCs play


Yeah, that seems to be a recurring theme for me.
Retired.
ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
November 16 2014 15:27 GMT
#2940
On November 16 2014 19:05 Fecalfeast wrote:
##vote obiwanshinobi

Im not gona sleep through deadlinebwith no vote im town dont lynch me


Guess you didn't pay attention to any of my responses or anything.

I'd expect SL to miss the point completely but goddamn.
Retired.
ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
November 16 2014 15:27 GMT
#2941
I'm probably going to have to vote to save myself again.
Retired.
ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
November 16 2014 16:19 GMT
#2942
Really don't like the fact that Ff came up with reasons to call me mafia, had them explained, and then still voted me.

I have no idea where his vote comes from aside from "lurking." I'm playing the game more than almost everyone else here atm so lurking doesn't really cut it.
Retired.
ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
November 16 2014 16:24 GMT
#2943
Also really don't like the fact that I'm the only one playing the game at this point.
Retired.
ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
November 16 2014 16:44 GMT
#2944
Might as well say I'm voting Ff now. Here's why:

1) I felt like I've adequately explained myself and my actions this game. He apparently followed my line of thinking enough to stop questioning me but still voted me later and couldn't be assed to figure anything else out. Parking your vote on a townie and straight up leaving is ridiculous.

2) Superbia being open to the possibility that I'm town is good, because it limits his mislynch options if he's actually mafia. I don't really have much better reasoning than that atm; I somehow managed to hit nearly the same amount of filter as him in less than half the time playing, and people had issues with me not playing at all.

3) I don't know what to think of SL. I don't want to lynch him, but I'm having a lot of trouble explaining why. I'll try to find a way to vocalize my thought process when I can but idrk.

##vote Fecalfeast

He can come back and do townie stuff like reconsider his thought process or scumhunt or move his vote off town, but if he can't, then I don't care about him.
Retired.
ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
November 16 2014 16:44 GMT
#2945
I'll stop playing off of omgus when you guys stop making me vote to save myself.
Retired.
ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
November 16 2014 16:54 GMT
#2946
I'll try to pay attention to deadline but I'm praying for no shennanies.

I'll be paying attention on phone, so if you guys decide on mass vote switches I might not be able to comply.
Retired.
ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
November 16 2014 17:19 GMT
#2948
Still Ff probs, maybe Superbia.

I'm back to the "don't vote SL" train of thought.
Retired.
ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
November 16 2014 17:31 GMT
#2950
I don't see how you can draw a conclusion from that statement either way, considering it's nothing more than self-observation.
Retired.
ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
November 16 2014 17:52 GMT
#2953
Actually, I just realized that SL has done the exact same thing as Ff.

Hm.
Retired.
ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
November 16 2014 18:07 GMT
#2956
Heading to work in about an hour.

Ff, who's scum and why if not me?
Retired.
ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
November 16 2014 21:23 GMT
#2972
On November 17 2014 06:08 Superbia wrote:
Where the fuck are Obi/FF?


I'm at work atm. Wtf.
Retired.
ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
November 16 2014 23:15 GMT
#3030
I have no idea how Sl is so convinced I'm mafia.
Retired.
ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
November 16 2014 23:24 GMT
#3032
On November 17 2014 08:18 sicklucker wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 17 2014 08:15 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
I have no idea how Sl is so convinced I'm mafia.


Hey at least im not serjai. Im willing to change if you give good reasons too. Its gonna be hard tho poe is not in your favor.


I don't know if I care about your vote tbh.
Retired.
ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
November 17 2014 00:19 GMT
#3037
On November 17 2014 08:36 sicklucker wrote:
I mean you should ... as town. If your mafia you dont care because you already have the two votes you need against me.
Your kind of burying yourself


Nothing you're saying makes sense.

You conjured your "motive" on my predecessor killing the cop out of thin air and for some reason you think it's a strong case.

Your statements about votes are completely irrelevant to anything.

Give me one good reason that I should care about your vote.
Retired.
ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
November 17 2014 01:14 GMT
#3038
Every time I log in to play this game, everyone fucking leaves.

It's starting to wear on my patience. People keep complaining that "I'm lurking" when I'm trying to engage other players and then nobody gives me the time of day.
Retired.
ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
November 17 2014 01:31 GMT
#3041
I have no idea where this confidence is coming from. You completely made up a case on me based on the possible "motive" of what lush said.

How am I supposed to trust you?
Retired.
ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
November 17 2014 01:32 GMT
#3042
Kush.

Stupid phone.
Retired.
ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
November 17 2014 01:55 GMT
#3045
How does me getting replaced fix anything?
Retired.
ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
November 17 2014 02:00 GMT
#3048
On November 17 2014 10:58 Superbia wrote:
Obi any thoughts now that FF flipped town?


Working on it.
Retired.
ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
November 17 2014 02:01 GMT
#3050
On November 17 2014 10:53 sicklucker wrote:
I mean put my case aside I was not talking about that. Your the day 1 cop killer whos been left alive way too long and kinda the only one left in my world from poe. If you are town you gotta put out a replacement because f both of us are town were really fucked. The fact your not targeting anyone tells me your trying to win votes not the game.


I don't see how me not having an immediate lynch target means anything.
Retired.
ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
November 17 2014 02:09 GMT
#3056
On November 17 2014 11:02 sicklucker wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 17 2014 11:01 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
On November 17 2014 10:53 sicklucker wrote:
I mean put my case aside I was not talking about that. Your the day 1 cop killer whos been left alive way too long and kinda the only one left in my world from poe. If you are town you gotta put out a replacement because f both of us are town were really fucked. The fact your not targeting anyone tells me your trying to win votes not the game.


I don't see how me not having an immediate lynch target means anything.


Like were kind of in a rush do you not understand the tie concept? Do you not think serjaias voteing for me?


We aren't in a rush. Stop it.
Retired.
ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
November 17 2014 02:18 GMT
#3062
On November 17 2014 11:14 sicklucker wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 17 2014 11:12 Superbia wrote:
I don't trust you.


I dont know what else to say then gg wp mafia town concedes I tried


I have no idea how to deal with you.

We aren't in a rush. Chill out.
Retired.
ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
November 17 2014 02:23 GMT
#3064
On November 17 2014 11:20 Superbia wrote:
I think I've solved the game. There's a hidden 3rd party.

sicklucker = 3rd party. Obi = scum. Game = solved.


When I get to a computer I'll deal with this.
Retired.
ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
November 17 2014 02:29 GMT
#3068
I still don't understand why people are calling super town tbh.

My read on Sl is in this weird limbo. I'm going to need time to elaborate on it.
Retired.
ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
November 17 2014 02:34 GMT
#3072
On November 17 2014 11:31 sicklucker wrote:
Im perfectly fine im just trying to win here like do you honestly think serejais gonna not vote me like seriously? Hes threatened to spite vote me multiple times. You guys need to let your egos go and just believe.


We're aware.
Retired.
ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
November 17 2014 02:41 GMT
#3079
On November 17 2014 11:37 sicklucker wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 17 2014 11:34 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
On November 17 2014 11:31 sicklucker wrote:
Im perfectly fine im just trying to win here like do you honestly think serejais gonna not vote me like seriously? Hes threatened to spite vote me multiple times. You guys need to let your egos go and just believe.


We're aware.


Then how can you suggest sleeping and having both of us in the final 3? Is this a mafia trap.


I didn't suggest it. I just want you to sto panicking.

Idk how people can say that me not understanding something is scummy.
Retired.
ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
November 17 2014 02:50 GMT
#3083
On November 17 2014 11:47 sicklucker wrote:
Like it doesint matter if hes scum the way your playing hes already won. If hes scum he will convince you to sleep for the autowin. We just vote out obi


You're reaching policy lynch levels of annoying.

And I don't even particularly think that you're mafia.
Retired.
ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
November 17 2014 02:51 GMT
#3085
I'm trying to dissuade you from voting me, and you just keep going "no it's obi" over and over.

I've already debunked your reasoning and you keep tunneling me.

The fuck.
Retired.
ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
November 17 2014 02:51 GMT
#3086
On November 17 2014 11:51 sicklucker wrote:
Im starting to think there might be a mafia between breske and super tho. Theres no way there both that dumb to not snap vote and sleep with 2 guaranteed votes against me. Well if they are they played a good game my hats off to you.


Literally fuck you if this is going to be your end game thought process.
Retired.
ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
November 17 2014 02:56 GMT
#3088
Just completely delusional.

I never even said I was going to snap vote you. The fuck.
Retired.
ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
November 17 2014 03:05 GMT
#3093
You tried to push everyone in my direction based on the fact that my predecessor did something retarded and got the cop killed for no discernable reason.

Guess what? I'm town. If you decide to continue down your ludicrous tunnel, I'm going to have to vote you to just to save myself. If you are town, then we lose anyway because you refused to reanalyze what was going on.

And I'm the one trying to save your ass.
Retired.
ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
November 17 2014 03:16 GMT
#3097
We don't have to snap vote or worry about the snap vote.

Stop talking about it because it isn't as important as you think it is.
Retired.
ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
November 17 2014 03:20 GMT
#3100
On November 17 2014 12:14 Serejai wrote:
Beyond policy at this point


Inclined to believe that trying to plynch tomorrow is a scum claim.
Retired.
ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
November 17 2014 03:30 GMT
#3103
On November 17 2014 12:28 sicklucker wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 17 2014 12:20 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
On November 17 2014 12:14 Serejai wrote:
Beyond policy at this point


Inclined to believe that trying to plynch tomorrow is a scum claim.


Im not trying to lynch shit im just saying vote at 5pmest Theirs 0 reason not to you can change your vote theirs no drawback and its not scummy to try and increase towns chances and options.


I wasn't actually addressing you in that post.
Retired.
ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
November 18 2014 00:27 GMT
#3112
##vote sleep
Retired.
ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
November 18 2014 00:34 GMT
#3113
How is it that Sl freaks out all night over possibly being voted off and losing and still manages to not show up and vote?
Retired.
ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
November 18 2014 01:42 GMT
#3123
On November 18 2014 10:26 sicklucker wrote:
And super you have to understand we cant sleep here I would rather figure this game out with 2 confirmed towns in my mind (meplusu)

Obi if you unvote sleep ill think your way more town here


I'm like 3 seconds away from spitelynching you.
Retired.
ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
November 18 2014 03:45 GMT
#3128
People who've played with me almost every single game I've been in with me still can't read me properly.

Don't think you'll be able to.
Retired.
ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
November 18 2014 03:48 GMT
#3129
Hmm...
Retired.
ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
November 18 2014 04:09 GMT
#3130
I don't really feel like the reasoning people have been giving to townread Superbia has been good.
Retired.
ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
November 18 2014 04:22 GMT
#3132
On November 18 2014 13:16 sicklucker wrote:
But when you got a cop killer and a players that completely checked out does it really matter? No one should be tryinglynch outside of you two from a town perspective imo.


I haven't forgotten the fact that you townread this slot for killing the cop.

Interesting that you're pushing it as a scumtell now.
Retired.
ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
November 18 2014 04:37 GMT
#3134
I called your case stupid because you conjured "motive" out of something for no reason.

How is it "mafia" of me to remind people of a scummy thing you did?
Retired.
ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
November 18 2014 04:50 GMT
#3137
##unvote
##vote sicklucker


I might move this later, but that's a pretty big might. I really don't get the feeling that you're listening to anything I'm saying, and if we go to final three we won't stand a chance of winning because you refuse to listen.

My brain is telling me to kill you with fire, but my gut is telling me not to. Not like it really matters since I won't have a choice soon. If you ever reconsider your awful tunnel, let me know and I'll consider moving my vote.
Retired.
ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
November 18 2014 04:51 GMT
#3138
Nah, I changed my mind again.

##unvote

This is fine for right now.
Retired.
ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
November 18 2014 05:13 GMT
#3141
1) I don't know. I don't do percentages because I think they're useless and they're not based on the happenings of the game.

2) Nobody is ever going to shoot me because I replaced into a slot that claimed cop for some reason unbeknownst to mortal men. If we sleep, that means the suspect pool gets smaller and the last scum has less room to hide. I'm not worried about serejai not being mafia and us losing because I'm town and I'm most likely going to make it through to tomorrow anyway, meaning that you being forced to cross your vote with Serejai and Super dying means I can make a more informed decision.
Retired.
ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
November 18 2014 05:17 GMT
#3142
Alternatively alternatively, Serejai dying means you won't have to cross your vote.

So there's that.
Retired.
ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
November 18 2014 05:26 GMT
#3144
I'm not dodging anything?

I'm town and I'm certain nobody is going to shoot me, so provided I don't get voted I can solve the game tomorrow.

What's the problem?
Retired.
ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
November 18 2014 05:27 GMT
#3145
Your entire line of logic is already based on me being mafia, which I'm never going to agree with regardless of alignment. I don't know what your angle is because I'm obviously never going to agree with what you're saying.
Retired.
ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
November 18 2014 05:30 GMT
#3147
Why is Super town, though?
Retired.
ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
November 18 2014 05:30 GMT
#3148
On November 18 2014 14:29 sicklucker wrote:
You didnt even answer my question. I know what your trying to do the reason your not voting me yet is because serejai might sleep which is an autowin rather then the likely win.


No it's not. I'm coming around to the fact that you could be town and I don't actually want to vote you.
Retired.
ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
November 18 2014 05:38 GMT
#3150
Oh, okay.

Here's a question I have for you then: do you honestly believe that Serejai would continue not playing the game if I actually got shot over him or Super? What makes you so sure he wouldn't reevaluate the situation if that actually happened?
Retired.
ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
November 18 2014 05:45 GMT
#3152
Why is it that only Super would shoot me? Why wouldn't he shoot someone else?
Retired.
ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
November 18 2014 05:48 GMT
#3155
Why is super town?
Retired.
ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
November 18 2014 05:53 GMT
#3157
Everyone thinking he's town doesn't make him town.
Retired.
ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
November 18 2014 05:56 GMT
#3160
You don't really have that much of a choice in the matter, tbh.
Retired.
ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
November 18 2014 06:00 GMT
#3163
##vote sleep

You can't argue forever.
Retired.
ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
November 18 2014 06:01 GMT
#3164
On November 18 2014 14:59 sicklucker wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 18 2014 14:56 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
You don't really have that much of a choice in the matter, tbh.


Nope I can convince super to side with me which is my only play since your not budging since your probably mafia. WHICH IS WHY IVE BEEN WONDERING WHERE THE HELL HE IS ={


Me wanting to sleep doesn't make me mafia.

You're going to have to get over it eventually.
Retired.
ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
November 18 2014 14:16 GMT
#3184
If Serejai is mafia, we lose anyway because she switches to me before EoD.

So your logic is still completely fucked.
Retired.
ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
November 18 2014 14:17 GMT
#3185
On November 18 2014 23:12 Superbia wrote:
I'm also currently okay with that vote anyway, so whatever. If you're scum here you'll probably win because I don't think I'm ever going to call you mafia.

Vote: ObiWanShinobi


looooool
Retired.
ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
November 18 2014 14:19 GMT
#3188
I knew this was going to happen. I should have just voted SL beforehand because I know he isn't listening to a word I say.
Retired.
ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
November 18 2014 14:19 GMT
#3189
On November 18 2014 23:18 Superbia wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 18 2014 23:16 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
If Serejai is mafia, we lose anyway because she switches to me before EoD.

So your logic is still completely fucked.


But then me and SL can switch to her???


I don't think you understand EoD switches.
Retired.
ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
November 18 2014 14:20 GMT
#3191
On November 18 2014 23:20 Superbia wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 18 2014 23:19 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
I knew this was going to happen. I should have just voted SL beforehand because I know he isn't listening to a word I say.


So I'm the mafia here?


Don't get me started on the "I know I'm town logic" again.
Retired.
ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
November 18 2014 14:22 GMT
#3193
I thought not having hard stances was the point of sleeping.
Retired.
ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
November 18 2014 14:24 GMT
#3195
On November 18 2014 23:23 sicklucker wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 18 2014 23:16 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
If Serejai is mafia, we lose anyway because she switches to me before EoD.

So your logic is still completely fucked.


Why did you tell her that dude? .Also if she does this we know shes the mafia and we all just vote her?


...

why do i even join these games
Retired.
ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
November 18 2014 14:25 GMT
#3197
On November 18 2014 23:24 Superbia wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 18 2014 23:22 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
I thought not having hard stances was the point of sleeping.


What if SL dies then?


Then I figure out who mafia is between you/Serejai.

Why is this so hard to understand?
Retired.
ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
November 18 2014 14:30 GMT
#3200
On November 18 2014 23:27 Superbia wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 18 2014 23:25 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
On November 18 2014 23:24 Superbia wrote:
On November 18 2014 23:22 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
I thought not having hard stances was the point of sleeping.


What if SL dies then?


Then I figure out who mafia is between you/Serejai.

Why is this so hard to understand?


Why not do it now? At this point I'm pretty damn sure SL is town with me and one of us will die during the night.


If I had the answer, I'd be pushing my read.

I don't have the answer.

I'm pushing for more time.

Not a hard concept to understand.
Retired.
ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
November 18 2014 14:30 GMT
#3202
On November 18 2014 23:28 sicklucker wrote:
Super most of my interactions with obiwan tonight have suggested hes the scum here. He also thinks your a likely scum but at the same time he also wants to sleep? If we sleep and your the mafia we also lose so Hes kind of caught imo

Basically I went into this setting a trap. Whoever wants to sleep has to clearly be scum here. while the one who is convinced by me that sleeping is really bad (because it is) The fact you came out and canceled the sleep vote is why your now confirmed town and why hes probably the scum.


This isn't a trap. Holy shit you have no idea how to play this game.
Retired.
ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
November 18 2014 14:31 GMT
#3203
On November 18 2014 23:30 sicklucker wrote:
Basically obis whole case is he wants the hammer. But hes risking the whole game by doing so. Both signs suggest hes mafia.


/facepalm

You should just never play mafia again. Ever.
Retired.
ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
November 18 2014 14:36 GMT
#3207
On November 18 2014 23:32 Superbia wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 18 2014 23:30 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
On November 18 2014 23:28 sicklucker wrote:
Super most of my interactions with obiwan tonight have suggested hes the scum here. He also thinks your a likely scum but at the same time he also wants to sleep? If we sleep and your the mafia we also lose so Hes kind of caught imo

Basically I went into this setting a trap. Whoever wants to sleep has to clearly be scum here. while the one who is convinced by me that sleeping is really bad (because it is) The fact you came out and canceled the sleep vote is why your now confirmed town and why hes probably the scum.


This isn't a trap. Holy shit you have no idea how to play this game.


His logic on sleeping + me being mafia = auto-lose should check out from your POV.


This is entirely based on the fact that I get shot or that Serejai continues to not play the game. Suggesting that she is town and is going to continue doing nothing but tunneling is ridiculous because that probably isn't going to happen.
Retired.
ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
November 18 2014 14:44 GMT
#3209
I don't know why this is so hard to wrap your heads around. We have accomplished nothing with this whole conversation because you're so hung up on the fact that sleeping is a bad thing.

If I don't have the answer, I can't conjure the answer out of thin air. I want more time to figure it out and I don't understand what's so hard to get here.
Retired.
ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
November 18 2014 14:45 GMT
#3210
On November 18 2014 23:42 sicklucker wrote:
No my logic is sound. Making fun of me here is not helping your case. If we dont sleep super has the hammer and he says hes not voting me. So your job as town or mafia here is to convince us to move onto serejai


Your logic isn't sound. I've explained it like 50 times and you're not listening.
Retired.
ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
November 18 2014 14:48 GMT
#3214
On November 18 2014 23:45 Serejai wrote:
Reading SL's filter feels like I'm reading a script for Back To The Future 4 or something. So much WIFOM, so much insider knowledge about things. "This will happen, that will happen. This person will get shot, this person will never get shot."


That doesn't really make him mafia though.
Retired.
ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
November 18 2014 14:53 GMT
#3217
On November 18 2014 23:50 sicklucker wrote:
No im saying hes town. I know your mafia by the way your acting.
You guys are both resorting to trash talk now to push your agendas of winning/throwing the game


I've tried explaining my position to you and all you're doing is going "Obi is mafia because he wants hammer."

Nothing you're saying is alignment indicative and I'm getting seriously annoyed because of how many times I have to explain myself.
Retired.
ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
November 18 2014 15:09 GMT
#3219
On November 19 2014 00:01 sicklucker wrote:
Its not that I haven't explained myself, you barely did that. Its that in everyworld im right and you cant argue against the true.

Its extremely alignment indicative im putting the hammer in someone elses hands your putting it in your own. You have not looked for one town. We need two towns to win the game. I found my town


No it's not. Me wanting hammer doesn't really tell you if I'm town or scum because both alignments want it.
Retired.
ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
November 18 2014 15:12 GMT
#3220
On November 18 2014 23:51 Serejai wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 18 2014 23:47 sicklucker wrote:
On November 18 2014 23:45 Serejai wrote:
Reading SL's filter feels like I'm reading a script for Back To The Future 4 or something. So much WIFOM, so much insider knowledge about things. "This will happen, that will happen. This person will get shot, this person will never get shot."


You have no right to judge my play man. It says in the rules you have to play to win or you can get banned. Your close


LOL. Did you just threaten me? Good lord... what a character.


Why are you voting Sl? Is it just because of the wifom and stuff?
Retired.
ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
November 18 2014 15:16 GMT
#3222
On November 19 2014 00:14 sicklucker wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 19 2014 00:09 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
On November 19 2014 00:01 sicklucker wrote:
Its not that I haven't explained myself, you barely did that. Its that in everyworld im right and you cant argue against the true.

Its extremely alignment indicative im putting the hammer in someone elses hands your putting it in your own. You have not looked for one town. We need two towns to win the game. I found my town


No it's not. Me wanting hammer doesn't really tell you if I'm town or scum because both alignments want it.


But you want it at the risk of a 33% autolose from your town pov which doesint make sense as a town. And if you factor in all 4 players having equal chance of being mafia its a 50% autolose.


Stop talking about autolose. These players have brains. If you think they're all going to continue down their tunnels with the additional information given to us through a nightkill then I don't know what to tell you.
Retired.
ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
November 18 2014 15:16 GMT
#3223
Why is it that you're so sure Serejai is town even though she isn't playing anymore?
Retired.
ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
November 18 2014 16:09 GMT
#3225
If I had to take a guess as to who my prime scum spect would be right now, I'd say it's Serejai.
Retired.
ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
November 18 2014 18:11 GMT
#3229
On November 19 2014 03:06 Serejai wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 19 2014 00:12 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
On November 18 2014 23:51 Serejai wrote:
On November 18 2014 23:47 sicklucker wrote:
On November 18 2014 23:45 Serejai wrote:
Reading SL's filter feels like I'm reading a script for Back To The Future 4 or something. So much WIFOM, so much insider knowledge about things. "This will happen, that will happen. This person will get shot, this person will never get shot."


You have no right to judge my play man. It says in the rules you have to play to win or you can get banned. Your close


LOL. Did you just threaten me? Good lord... what a character.


Why are you voting Sl? Is it just because of the wifom and stuff?


See, here's the thing...

Sleeping is the town thing to do. If we lynch today we have a 25% chance of winning and a 75% chance of losing as town.

If we sleep and lynch tomorrow, there will be a 33% chance to win and a 66% chance to lose as town.

For someone who makes a living playing poker and apparently is a math expert as well, I find it hard to believe they could be so oblivious to how this stuff works.

On the other hand, the remaining scum player would benefit greatly from us lynching today.

Out of the four of us, the only person who is hellbent on not sleeping is SL. It's in the best interest of town to sleep, and the best interest of mafia to lynch. Nothing he says makes any sense or adds up in any way, and it's all coming straight from a scum viewpoint - regardless of how many times he self-confirms himself as town.


At a glance, this looks okay.

I'll deal with this game again when I get home from work.
Retired.
ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
November 19 2014 01:07 GMT
#3239
Yeah, I take back that scumread on Serejai because that was dumb.
Retired.
ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
November 19 2014 03:41 GMT
#3240
Meh. I can't do it. I just don't see a reason to lynch anyone but SL. I keep trying to put stock into what Rayn was saying about him but I just don't see the point.

I don't get the feeling that he's listening to anything that I'm saying. I've tried to argue my way out of it and I just don't feel like I've made any progress with him. I've looked in his filter and brought stuff up to try and engage him/sort his thought process, and he keeps saying that it only makes me "more mafia" because of...Stuff, I guess. I know there's an actual answer in thread but I just don't see how that can be a part of a rational player's thought process.

Serejai is seeing a lot of the same stuff as I am, and I feel like I've mostly been dancing around the subject myself. I think I just put more weight into what Rayn said than she did and I tried to roll with it for longer.

That's probably my prime scumread for the day. If he somehow reconsiders/reanalyzes the game, then I might be able to take another look at the gamestate. The way things are going, I highly doubt this is the case. That's probably where my vote is going tomorrow.
Retired.
ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
November 19 2014 03:43 GMT
#3241
Alternatively, if Super feels like getting it done today, we can all just vote him and be done with it.

I don't feel like voting for a no lynch is necessary at this point because it's highly likely that SL/me will still be around tomorrow to do the exact same dance. A lynch outside of SL/me is almost unfeasible at this point as it stands, so unless someone points out where else the vote could end up, then I'm fine with taking action today.
Retired.
ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
November 19 2014 04:44 GMT
#3244
On November 19 2014 13:31 sicklucker wrote:
Also if he thinks im the scum sleeping is actually good from his pov.


Why would sleeping be good if I were scum?
Retired.
ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
November 19 2014 04:45 GMT
#3245
My entire giant paragraph is centered around the fact that you won't listen to me and you're stuck in a tunnel.

It's not like I'm going out and trying to make some self-fulfilling prophecy. I just don't feel like I can convince you otherwise and I think you're mafia because of it. Saying that "we definitely can't vote Serejai now" after I just said "SL isn't reanalyzing anything and is probably mafia because of it" is missing the point completely.
Retired.
ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
November 19 2014 04:53 GMT
#3248
I'm not saying you're ignoring me. I'm saying you're deliberately being wrong.
Retired.
ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
November 19 2014 05:41 GMT
#3251
Cough cough.
Retired.
ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
November 19 2014 05:51 GMT
#3253
lol it's a bit late for that bro
Retired.
ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
November 19 2014 15:40 GMT
#3259
On November 20 2014 00:34 sicklucker wrote:
Like super if your not going to be here dont sleep. Give me the hammer by keeping your vote on obi. If I decide its serejai me and obi vote him. If I decide its obi hes voted out by tie break.


lol
Retired.
ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
November 19 2014 18:19 GMT
#3264
If you think Serejai is mafia then why do you keep pushing me as a lynch?
Retired.
ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
November 19 2014 18:20 GMT
#3265
Meh, I can't even pretend to follow your thought process anymore.
Retired.
ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
November 20 2014 05:34 GMT
#3274
Can someone run me through why Super is town now?

Preferably without saying "everyone else townread him" which is an awful reason.
Retired.
ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
November 20 2014 15:24 GMT
#3276
Don't you fucking dare start pinning our possible loss on me. I was trying to open your eyes to the possibility of Super being scum and you just kept tunneling me.

Don't even fucking start.
Retired.
ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
November 20 2014 16:31 GMT
#3278
On November 21 2014 01:01 Superbia wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 21 2014 00:24 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
Don't you fucking dare start pinning our possible loss on me. I was trying to open your eyes to the possibility of Super being scum and you just kept tunneling me.

Don't even fucking start.


I thought you were reading SL as scum?

Also, Obi, I would like some clarification. I was starting to read you town partially because I was starting to think you were genuinely questioning SL's read on me rather than passively throw scum on me. What the fuck is your agenda here?


I would like everyone to put down their final thoughts on the other 3 in the game before we get the NK flip.


I'm not passively throwing scum anywhere: people are reading you as town and I don't understand why that is.

My reads on other players shouldn't be relevant.
Retired.
ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
November 20 2014 16:45 GMT
#3280
Both.
Retired.
ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
November 20 2014 16:48 GMT
#3282
And what?
Retired.
ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
November 20 2014 16:52 GMT
#3284
Nothing yet.

That's...Why I'm asking.
Retired.
ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
November 20 2014 17:00 GMT
#3287
On November 21 2014 01:54 Superbia wrote:
How are you expecting to townread me off of SL's response?


That's not the point.

The point is that, to me, you somehow turned into this black hole of weird townreads based on either tone or the fact that other people are doing it. I don't know if that makes you mafia, nor do I know if people are townreading you if it's because I'm super blind and I can't see through the blinding light of your towniness.

I don't feel like any of the answers I've been given have sated me. I don't get it.
Retired.
ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
November 20 2014 17:20 GMT
#3289
On November 21 2014 02:14 Superbia wrote:
Pretty much every (dead) confirmed has hard read me as town. I have no idea what SL's read on me is or why he's reading me town, but I don't think that's particularly alignment indicative given the circumstances.

I think it's fine that you are evaluating me independent of what has been said so far, but I would have expected you to have reached a conclusion long ago. There's a reason why the entirety of town so far has read me town, and you should've either come to that conclusion as well, or have evidence as to think otherwise. The fact that you have done neither makes me believe that you have not been evaluating the game and have just been stalling and asking questions for the sake of asking questions. I.e. you're scum.


You really don't see an issue with SL's analysis?

I don't really see how me not having an answer for your alignment makes me scum.
Retired.
ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
November 20 2014 17:34 GMT
#3291
On November 21 2014 02:25 Superbia wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 21 2014 02:20 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
On November 21 2014 02:14 Superbia wrote:
Pretty much every (dead) confirmed has hard read me as town. I have no idea what SL's read on me is or why he's reading me town, but I don't think that's particularly alignment indicative given the circumstances.

I think it's fine that you are evaluating me independent of what has been said so far, but I would have expected you to have reached a conclusion long ago. There's a reason why the entirety of town so far has read me town, and you should've either come to that conclusion as well, or have evidence as to think otherwise. The fact that you have done neither makes me believe that you have not been evaluating the game and have just been stalling and asking questions for the sake of asking questions. I.e. you're scum.


You really don't see an issue with SL's analysis?

I don't really see how me not having an answer for your alignment makes me scum.


SL's analysis on me? He has been sheeping Rayn's reads for most of the game iirc.

You've been asking questions about me being town for the past days. It fucking boggles my mind to think that any town would just continuously ask the same question over and over again and not reach any conclusion. I don't buy it.


I fail to see how having my question being unanswered to any extent would make me scum.

Furthermore, what's wrong with me trying to get a read on you in real-time? Is that only something that you think scum can/would do? Why? Why is it that I absolutely have to have an already formed read on you?

I don't feel like my filter-dives of you have been particularly fruitful; hence, why I'm here asking others what they think of you.
Retired.
ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
November 20 2014 17:35 GMT
#3292
This feels very TvT-ish, fwiw.
Retired.
ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
November 20 2014 17:44 GMT
#3294
On November 21 2014 02:42 Superbia wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 21 2014 02:34 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
On November 21 2014 02:25 Superbia wrote:
On November 21 2014 02:20 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
On November 21 2014 02:14 Superbia wrote:
Pretty much every (dead) confirmed has hard read me as town. I have no idea what SL's read on me is or why he's reading me town, but I don't think that's particularly alignment indicative given the circumstances.

I think it's fine that you are evaluating me independent of what has been said so far, but I would have expected you to have reached a conclusion long ago. There's a reason why the entirety of town so far has read me town, and you should've either come to that conclusion as well, or have evidence as to think otherwise. The fact that you have done neither makes me believe that you have not been evaluating the game and have just been stalling and asking questions for the sake of asking questions. I.e. you're scum.


You really don't see an issue with SL's analysis?

I don't really see how me not having an answer for your alignment makes me scum.


SL's analysis on me? He has been sheeping Rayn's reads for most of the game iirc.

You've been asking questions about me being town for the past days. It fucking boggles my mind to think that any town would just continuously ask the same question over and over again and not reach any conclusion. I don't buy it.


I fail to see how having my question being unanswered to any extent would make me scum.

Furthermore, what's wrong with me trying to get a read on you in real-time? Is that only something that you think scum can/would do? Why? Why is it that I absolutely have to have an already formed read on you?

I don't feel like my filter-dives of you have been particularly fruitful; hence, why I'm here asking others what they think of you.


I echo the desire to see where Sere stands on me (or anyone for that matter) at this point in time. Which is why I asked people to put down their thoughts on everyone by the EoN before the flip.

I just don't see what you have accomplished with your questions. You say they were partially to get a read on me, but you did not reach any conclusion regarding my alignment. Did you reach any conclusion regarding Sere or SL based on this question?

Getting a read on me in real-time is fine, but I fail to see how this has anything to do with asking others questions about me.


I haven't reached any conclusion based on their answers. Sere has SL as a hard scumread indefinitely and hasn't really engaged me in regards to anything else. SL says you're town because other people have called you town.

I have accomplished nothing with my questions, but it's not because I'm setting out to accomplish nothing by asking them. =/
Retired.
ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
November 20 2014 17:48 GMT
#3298
On November 21 2014 02:46 Superbia wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 21 2014 02:44 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
On November 21 2014 02:42 Superbia wrote:
On November 21 2014 02:34 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
On November 21 2014 02:25 Superbia wrote:
On November 21 2014 02:20 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
On November 21 2014 02:14 Superbia wrote:
Pretty much every (dead) confirmed has hard read me as town. I have no idea what SL's read on me is or why he's reading me town, but I don't think that's particularly alignment indicative given the circumstances.

I think it's fine that you are evaluating me independent of what has been said so far, but I would have expected you to have reached a conclusion long ago. There's a reason why the entirety of town so far has read me town, and you should've either come to that conclusion as well, or have evidence as to think otherwise. The fact that you have done neither makes me believe that you have not been evaluating the game and have just been stalling and asking questions for the sake of asking questions. I.e. you're scum.


You really don't see an issue with SL's analysis?

I don't really see how me not having an answer for your alignment makes me scum.


SL's analysis on me? He has been sheeping Rayn's reads for most of the game iirc.

You've been asking questions about me being town for the past days. It fucking boggles my mind to think that any town would just continuously ask the same question over and over again and not reach any conclusion. I don't buy it.


I fail to see how having my question being unanswered to any extent would make me scum.

Furthermore, what's wrong with me trying to get a read on you in real-time? Is that only something that you think scum can/would do? Why? Why is it that I absolutely have to have an already formed read on you?

I don't feel like my filter-dives of you have been particularly fruitful; hence, why I'm here asking others what they think of you.


I echo the desire to see where Sere stands on me (or anyone for that matter) at this point in time. Which is why I asked people to put down their thoughts on everyone by the EoN before the flip.

I just don't see what you have accomplished with your questions. You say they were partially to get a read on me, but you did not reach any conclusion regarding my alignment. Did you reach any conclusion regarding Sere or SL based on this question?

Getting a read on me in real-time is fine, but I fail to see how this has anything to do with asking others questions about me.


I haven't reached any conclusion based on their answers. Sere has SL as a hard scumread indefinitely and hasn't really engaged me in regards to anything else. SL says you're town because other people have called you town.

I have accomplished nothing with my questions, but it's not because I'm setting out to accomplish nothing by asking them. =/


So what will your approach be for tomorrow?


Find and lynch mafia, same as always.

I don't see how I can answer this question any other way.
Retired.
ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
November 20 2014 17:51 GMT
#3301
Wanting to sleep doesn't make anyone mafia, SL.
Retired.
ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
November 20 2014 17:54 GMT
#3304
On November 21 2014 02:53 sicklucker wrote:
Like super the only reason serejai started to play again because things started to go my way. I thought that was completely obvious everyone of her posts were anti me.She didnt even mention either of you..


I don't really see how that means much, considering you kept wanting to lynch me and kept calling me mafia. Town loses nothing by sleeping and you should know that by now.

What are you trying to accomplish here, exactly?
Retired.
ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
November 20 2014 17:56 GMT
#3308
Retired.
ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
November 20 2014 17:58 GMT
#3310
On November 21 2014 02:57 sicklucker wrote:
No obi you should know i lose everything by sleeping as a town. Thats what a dont understand about you and why I tunneled.

I dont think giving two potential mafia the hammer is ever a good town play.


Any person in the game can say this.

This is why your opinion on sleeping doesn't matter.
Retired.
ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
November 20 2014 18:00 GMT
#3312
Fuck you SL.
Retired.
ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
November 20 2014 18:09 GMT
#3319
On November 21 2014 03:06 sicklucker wrote:
Like super thinks obis scum and obi thinks supers scum. If you sleep and your right you know you lose right. Because serejai votes me everytime and we just gave the other mafia the hammer


Except I don't think Super is scum anymore.
Retired.
ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
November 20 2014 18:16 GMT
#3320
I'm gonna take a break.

Hopefully I'll be back before EoD.
Retired.
ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
November 20 2014 22:14 GMT
#3330
Lol I died gg boys.
Retired.
ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
November 23 2014 02:48 GMT
#3576
A well deserved win by mafia.

Why did I get shot before lylo? Idgi.
Retired.
ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
November 23 2014 02:58 GMT
#3579
loool

Retired.
ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
November 23 2014 03:02 GMT
#3581
That's what I was expecting, tbh. I'm not sure how things would have played out though, since I wasn't sure how I'd be able to get out of it.

I was even universally scumread in the obs QT. I have no idea what KSC was thinking with his claim, but it was bad.
Retired.
ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
November 23 2014 03:59 GMT
#3588
On November 23 2014 12:44 sicklucker wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 23 2014 11:48 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
A well deserved win by mafia.

Why did I get shot before lylo? Idgi.


Rly? I told you final 3 of me and serejai= mafia win thats why I didnt want to sleep


The alternative was lynching me, who was also town.

Please stop talking about the plays you could have made and talk about what you could have done to avoid being lynched/voted by Serejai. The sleep thing is completely overplayed at this point and it really doesn't seem like you understand what happened at all.
Retired.
ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
November 23 2014 04:05 GMT
#3590
No it wasn't. We lost either way because you were fixated on sleep. You never even considered Super until after the day ended.
Retired.
ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
November 23 2014 06:28 GMT
#3599
That's a really brutal post.

I'm loving the whole bit about the "bad logic" part though. That's something I've never thought about.
Retired.
ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
November 23 2014 16:52 GMT
#3610
On November 23 2014 15:42 Blazinghand wrote:
I feel bad whenever I mislynch someone OR get mislynched. As a player, I might mislynch a guy who's acting silly or something, and claim it was "optimal" to lynch him, but in reality it's optimal to only lynch scum. It's all our responsibilities to do our best when we're town, and remember, with great shared responsibility comes great shared blame.


I'm not so sure about this, tbh. I can think of a multitude of situations where shooting/lynching a player that's deliberately being destructive will help town. Optimally, I think everyone would love to lynch mafia 100% of the time but we all know that that never actually happens.
Retired.
Normal
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
Replay Cast
02:00
LiuLi 40 / Enki Pro Series 5
Liquipedia
Online Event
00:00
LATAM SC2 League: Semifinals
Liquipedia
GSL
23:00
Replay Cast
Rogue vs GuMiho
Maru vs Solar
LiquipediaDiscussion
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
ROOTCatZ 283
Nina 177
RuFF_SC2 174
StarCraft: Brood War
Rain 2512
PianO 47
Noble 41
Terrorterran 18
Icarus 13
Dota 2
LuMiX1
League of Legends
JimRising 741
Counter-Strike
Stewie2K110
Heroes of the Storm
Khaldor149
Other Games
summit1g13570
C9.Mang01070
hungrybox711
WinterStarcraft293
ViBE255
ToD166
Maynarde130
Mew2King29
CosmosSc2 27
Organizations
Dota 2
PGL Dota 2 - Main Stream5731
Other Games
gamesdonequick1181
BasetradeTV87
StarCraft 2
Blizzard YouTube
StarCraft: Brood War
BSLTrovo
sctven
[ Show 15 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• Berry_CruncH301
• Hupsaiya 75
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• intothetv
• Kozan
• IndyKCrew
• LaughNgamezSOOP
• Migwel
• sooper7s
StarCraft: Brood War
• BSLYoutube
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
League of Legends
• Doublelift5844
• Lourlo808
• Stunt229
Upcoming Events
GSL Code S
6h 3m
herO vs Zoun
Classic vs Bunny
The PondCast
6h 33m
Replay Cast
20h 33m
WardiTV Invitational
1d 7h
OSC
1d 9h
Korean StarCraft League
1d 23h
SOOP
2 days
sOs vs Percival
CranKy Ducklings
2 days
WardiTV Invitational
2 days
Cheesadelphia
2 days
[ Show More ]
CSO Cup
2 days
GSL Code S
3 days
Sparkling Tuna Cup
3 days
Replay Cast
3 days
Wardi Open
4 days
Replay Cast
4 days
Replay Cast
5 days
RSL Revival
5 days
Cure vs Percival
ByuN vs Spirit
RSL Revival
6 days
herO vs sOs
Zoun vs Clem
Replay Cast
6 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

CSL Season 17: Qualifier 2
BGE Stara Zagora 2025
Heroes 10 EU

Ongoing

JPL Season 2
BSL 2v2 Season 3
BSL Season 20
KCM Race Survival 2025 Season 2
NPSL S3
Rose Open S1
CSL 17: 2025 SUMMER
2025 GSL S2
BLAST.tv Austin Major 2025
ESL Impact League Season 7
IEM Dallas 2025
PGL Astana 2025
Asian Champions League '25
BLAST Rivals Spring 2025
MESA Nomadic Masters
CCT Season 2 Global Finals
IEM Melbourne 2025
YaLLa Compass Qatar 2025
PGL Bucharest 2025
BLAST Open Spring 2025

Upcoming

Copa Latinoamericana 4
CSLPRO Last Chance 2025
CSLPRO Chat StarLAN 3
K-Championship
SEL Season 2 Championship
Esports World Cup 2025
HSC XXVII
Championship of Russia 2025
Murky Cup #2
Esports World Cup 2025
BLAST Bounty Fall 2025
BLAST Bounty Fall Qual
IEM Cologne 2025
FISSURE Playground #1
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2025 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.