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On November 13 2014 07:49 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
In all seriousness, if the counterclaim thing is going to be that big of an issue that I'd suggest you get it out of the way before lylo. I'm not going to hang around in this game the whole time just to up and get lynched because of something my predecessor did.
I'm town. I'm not going to bother explaining KSC's claim because I can't. If you've got questions, ask them. I'll do the best I can.
Otherwise, look at other suspects. End of.
What do you actually plan to do this game?
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On November 13 2014 07:50 Superbia wrote:Show nested quote +On November 13 2014 07:49 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
In all seriousness, if the counterclaim thing is going to be that big of an issue that I'd suggest you get it out of the way before lylo. I'm not going to hang around in this game the whole time just to up and get lynched because of something my predecessor did.
I'm town. I'm not going to bother explaining KSC's claim because I can't. If you've got questions, ask them. I'll do the best I can.
Otherwise, look at other suspects. End of. What do you actually plan to do this game?
Lynch mafia.
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On November 13 2014 07:50 ObiWanShinobi wrote:Show nested quote +On November 13 2014 07:50 Superbia wrote:On November 13 2014 07:49 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
In all seriousness, if the counterclaim thing is going to be that big of an issue that I'd suggest you get it out of the way before lylo. I'm not going to hang around in this game the whole time just to up and get lynched because of something my predecessor did.
I'm town. I'm not going to bother explaining KSC's claim because I can't. If you've got questions, ask them. I'll do the best I can.
Otherwise, look at other suspects. End of. What do you actually plan to do this game? Lynch mafia.
You have promised to read the entire thread, and have given "updates" on what pages you're on, etc. However, from all the interactions I have seen between you and others, it has become clear to me that you have not picked up any information from reading the thread. What have you been actually doing so far?
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I've announced that I'm not actually rereading the thread because scum is getting rolled.
The one thing I've really payed attention to is SL's filter and it doesn't look spectacular on close inspection. That's about it.
I don't know what your angle is here, aside from you pushing me for being lazy/my predecessor making an awful move.
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First of all I would hate sicklucker so much.
After I would have calmed down, I would try and investigate people again and look who's the second most scummy.
Since atm as I said noone looks townie or nearly as scummy as sicklucker, this would be difficult because I won't really be able to let others influence me too much since most people are possible scum atm.
The thing we do have going for us, and what I would base my opinion tomorrow on if there is a tomorrow, is how people reacted around the recent lynch, since the last lynch was basically no discussion, since everyone just agreed on sent.
No, I'm not trying to go off vote logic, but what the discussion I hope will happen will bring up.
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Except SL tried to lynch someone else to create more "information."
So it wasn't really unanimous until later.
I'm sure there's some other stuff there but I might look into it later.
Might.
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On November 13 2014 08:04 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
I've announced that I'm not actually rereading the thread because scum is getting rolled.
The one thing I've really payed attention to is SL's filter and it doesn't look spectacular on close inspection. That's about it.
I don't know what your angle is here, aside from you pushing me for being lazy/my predecessor making an awful move.
Like there's two ways you come into a thread as a standin, either you read the entire thread, which is usually boring as shit. Or you start asking questions and interact with everyone to see where everyone is at. Or some kind of combination. It's one thing to be lazy, it's another to do absolutely fuck all. Like all of the town standins I've seen come into the thread guns blazing in some sort of way. They do something like immediately declare that they're not going to read the entire thread and/or they just fucking go and do shit. Like they immediately jump in and start interacting and reading when necessary.
You haven't done anything. At all. You've made a promise about reading the thread, which in all honesty, I don't give a shit about. I could've told you exactly what happened from my POV if you bothered to fucking ask. A promise to read the thread, feeling dejected about it and then just doing nothing else is exactly what I expect a mafia subbing in to do here. There were other options you could've pursued after you figured out that reading the thread was not going to work for you, you did none of them. I was in the exact same situation last game, where I subbed into a mafia spot and mafia were losing hard, and your mind set feels completely similar.
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On November 13 2014 08:05 Elvis! wrote:
First of all I would hate sicklucker so much.
After I would have calmed down, I would try and investigate people again and look who's the second most scummy.
Since atm as I said noone looks townie or nearly as scummy as sicklucker, this would be difficult because I won't really be able to let others influence me too much since most people are possible scum atm.
The thing we do have going for us, and what I would base my opinion tomorrow on if there is a tomorrow, is how people reacted around the recent lynch, since the last lynch was basically no discussion, since everyone just agreed on sent.
No, I'm not trying to go off vote logic, but what the discussion I hope will happen will bring up.
I honestly find it hard to believe that you've been stuck on SL for what is essentially the entirety of the game and still are. You should have some sort of opinion regarding at least 1 of the unconfirmeds.
Name one person who is town out of the following:
- Elvis
- Obi
- SL
- FF
- Me
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On November 13 2014 08:05 Elvis! wrote:
First of all I would hate sicklucker so much.
After I would have calmed down, I would try and investigate people again and look who's the second most scummy.
Since atm as I said noone looks townie or nearly as scummy as sicklucker, this would be difficult because I won't really be able to let others influence me too much since most people are possible scum atm.
The thing we do have going for us, and what I would base my opinion tomorrow on if there is a tomorrow, is how people reacted around the recent lynch, since the last lynch was basically no discussion, since everyone just agreed on sent.
No, I'm not trying to go off vote logic, but what the discussion I hope will happen will bring up.
I think saying you read noone as townie is a cop out. You are still going on sicklucker from like your very first case you show no signs of reevaluating at all or even trying to look at it from the point of view that he is town.
You entered the thread this way saying there was nothing to get reads off of and it was wrong then and it is wrong now.
Also look at the bolded part you want to lynch sicklucker and you so believe he iss cum that he is your only read yet you still think there will be a tomorrow.
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scratch the last part apparently i can't read you said "if there is a tomorrow" my bad
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Scratch Elvis off the list that I gave.
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On November 13 2014 08:18 Superbia wrote:Show nested quote +On November 13 2014 08:04 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
I've announced that I'm not actually rereading the thread because scum is getting rolled.
The one thing I've really payed attention to is SL's filter and it doesn't look spectacular on close inspection. That's about it.
I don't know what your angle is here, aside from you pushing me for being lazy/my predecessor making an awful move. Like there's two ways you come into a thread as a standin, either you read the entire thread, which is usually boring as shit. Or you start asking questions and interact with everyone to see where everyone is at. Or some kind of combination. It's one thing to be lazy, it's another to do absolutely fuck all. Like all of the town standins I've seen come into the thread guns blazing in some sort of way. They do something like immediately declare that they're not going to read the entire thread and/or they just fucking go and do shit. Like they immediately jump in and start interacting and reading when necessary. You haven't done anything. At all. You've made a promise about reading the thread, which in all honesty, I don't give a shit about. I could've told you exactly what happened from my POV if you bothered to fucking ask. A promise to read the thread, feeling dejected about it and then just doing nothing else is exactly what I expect a mafia subbing in to do here. There were other options you could've pursued after you figured out that reading the thread was not going to work for you, you did none of them. I was in the exact same situation last game, where I subbed into a mafia spot and mafia were losing hard, and your mind set feels completely similar.
That's nice.
Can't base a case on "feels" though, so you'll have to do better than that.
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Thank you.
Thank you very much.
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The one question you'll really have to answer is this:
How do you separate mafia laziness from town laziness? How does me being lazy make me scum in this circumstance? Is there a reasonable explanation for my laziness?
All you're doing is harping on "he's lazy like I was so he's mafia," which isn't going to convince anyone ever.
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On November 13 2014 08:32 ObiWanShinobi wrote:Show nested quote +On November 13 2014 08:18 Superbia wrote:On November 13 2014 08:04 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
I've announced that I'm not actually rereading the thread because scum is getting rolled.
The one thing I've really payed attention to is SL's filter and it doesn't look spectacular on close inspection. That's about it.
I don't know what your angle is here, aside from you pushing me for being lazy/my predecessor making an awful move. Like there's two ways you come into a thread as a standin, either you read the entire thread, which is usually boring as shit. Or you start asking questions and interact with everyone to see where everyone is at. Or some kind of combination. It's one thing to be lazy, it's another to do absolutely fuck all. Like all of the town standins I've seen come into the thread guns blazing in some sort of way. They do something like immediately declare that they're not going to read the entire thread and/or they just fucking go and do shit. Like they immediately jump in and start interacting and reading when necessary. You haven't done anything. At all. You've made a promise about reading the thread, which in all honesty, I don't give a shit about. I could've told you exactly what happened from my POV if you bothered to fucking ask. A promise to read the thread, feeling dejected about it and then just doing nothing else is exactly what I expect a mafia subbing in to do here. There were other options you could've pursued after you figured out that reading the thread was not going to work for you, you did none of them. I was in the exact same situation last game, where I subbed into a mafia spot and mafia were losing hard, and your mind set feels completely similar. That's nice. Can't base a case on "feels" though, so you'll have to do better than that.
Yeah let me base a case on your content:
Let me base a case on kelsier:
- Killed cop
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Much case. Very convince.
Wowe.
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On November 13 2014 08:34 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
The one question you'll really have to answer is this:
How do you separate mafia laziness from town laziness? How does me being lazy make me scum in this circumstance? Is there a reasonable explanation for my laziness?
All you're doing is harping on "he's lazy like I was so he's mafia," which isn't going to convince anyone ever.
If you were genuinely lazy you would've never fucking promised to read the entire thread, that's the most time intensive approach.
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Yeah you're right, that's why I tried to do a catch up, came to the conclusion that Sentinel was mafia based on the short reread that I did, and then promised to stop doing it because town was running shit hard.
So mafia.
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On November 13 2014 08:37 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
Yeah you're right, that's why I tried to do a catch up, came to the conclusion that Sentinel was mafia based on the short reread that I did, and then promised to stop doing it because town was running shit hard.
So mafia.
And now? There's no fucking general consensus at the moment. What is your plan?
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