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On October 09 2014 06:22 onlywonderboy wrote: I knew before you even posted it that I was going to be "other pen guy" tho tbh I should be "Superior Pen Guy" | ||
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I'm in Gold. SIR. Edit: And my superiority will be hilarious when I'M THE FIRST TO DIE. | ||
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...fair + Show Spoiler + <3 u bb | ||
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On October 09 2014 20:43 jcarlsoniv wrote: Well, you did already break the edit rule ##lynch asmonoob Oh goddammit. WHATEVER I CAN EDIT BEFORE DAY 1 YOU CAN'T HOLD ME DOWN | ||
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+ Show Spoiler + who doesn't want to immediately die | ||
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On October 10 2014 00:33 Dandel Ion wrote: I should probably note that that is absolutely not required since I'm going to completely RNG the roles and alignments Dandel rules with an iron fist. I love it. | ||
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On October 11 2014 06:31 Requizen wrote: I'm only going to disappoint you. And everyone. Fixed. | ||
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Now just to decide who is the guiltiest sounding mafia vet... | ||
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So, it's D1 and we know fuck all, so my #1 evils atm are lurkers. I might end up voting on a lurker later or asking for a policy lynch if necessary. Lurkers are scum even if they're town because they're useless to our cause. Die lurkers die. (Yes I realize the hypocrisy, but hopefully I'll get more chances to participate from now on). Here are my current scum reads: Alzadar and MoonBear. So far, these two have put forth the most useless content imo. No conclusions, lots of thoughts that don't lead anywhere concrete, a bunch of confusion that basically just serves to sow dissent among the ranks. In the end, MoonBear gets a pass from me for now because most of his post was based on a rules misunderstanding, but Alz has no excuse. In other words... ##Vote: Alzadar ... because until we have a reason to trust you at this point, you super scummy. We also have our townies: Alaric and Req. Alaric's post was far too genuinely helpful for me to buy him as mafia. I don't think anyone's got that kind of skill just yet (except for perhaps Wave and soniv, but we'll get to them), so I'm taking that as genuine. Also, I don't see Req's attitude as a cover YET. However, if townies start falling around him, I'll totally revisit that because it'd be a DAMN good play for scum. But it comes back the fact that I don't think either player is good enough at Mafia yet to being lying based on the contents of their posts thus far. Reads on everyone else:
Hopefully I didn't leave anything out or put anything suspicious in because I did do this in a semi-rush to get a post in before I moved on to other busy parts of the day. I'm happy to answer or clarify wherever anyone is confused. | ||
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I hope you don't get axed for being the smahtest townie. | ||
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On October 12 2014 05:30 Lord Tolkien wrote: Can people stop making silly VT claims D1? Super annoying. Sorry, starting to realize how dumb this is. Staph blaming... super noob here. | ||
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Also, Wave... if early VT claiming is a noob move, why'd you do it? It seems like all the other vets read it as bad (and I'm starting to as well) and I basically was just following you (probably stupidly). ALSO SORRY I'M A NOOB SONIV. I OWN UP TO MY MISTAKES. | ||
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On October 12 2014 05:39 WaveofShadow wrote: Claiming VT isn't a noob move per se, but it is obviously incredibly useless. I do it all the time in TL mafia games. I thought it was pretty obvious I did it for fun but people keep proving me wrong. Mafia isn't fun. It's serious business. Also, I genuinely was thrown off by that initial claim. You have to wade in the kiddy pool for this game, so assume we don't know when you're joking around yet. | ||
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Doesn't change my vote though. | ||
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My schedule is always going to be ridiculous and erratic, and if that comes off as a scum read (especially since I get more chances to click refresh than type), I guess that sucks for me and the town. I've clearly made some bad posts just to prove I'm not fully lurking (that I'm now regretting), so if that gets my lynched too, once again, that'll suck for me and the town. I can't do much about that other than apologize, but this'll be my last noob whine to get that out of the way as well. As far as following the vets go, my typical reactions when learning a game are to watch and learn. That's why I'm picking up a lot (perhaps too obviously) from Wave and soniv. To be more specific, I like soniv's playstyle: cool-headed D1, asking questions, being skeptical. The fact that we've come to similar conclusions (as you have) should be indicative that we lean town, just like you. With Wave, I'm still a bit wary of him overall, but I wouldn't be surprised if he's town too and the fact that he's got Alz and MB on his shitlist helps that even more. But on a separate note, are we just ignoring ketchup's sudden vote for soniv? I want to know more about that ketchup. Also, part of my vote on Alz is his lack of self-defense, which is partially explained by the holiday. Since I have the same problem with erratic post schedules, my opinions on him have loosened a bit, but not enough to change my vote yet. Also Wave, what DIDN'T you like about my explanation post? I thought I provided decent reasoning for my lists, but you only responded to a bit about MB. Plus, we really haven't heard your opinions on the whole cast either, just Jeff/Alz/MB/me/Soniv for the most part (forgive me if I missed something in scanning your long filter). | ||
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ketchup, why soniv? Don't be shy now. | ||
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Would you care to elaborate? | ||
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Also, LT, you're jumping on Req's case for noob stuff, even to the extent of a policy lynch on him as if he were lurker scum, but 6ah and I have done similarly bad noob BS. Why Req more than anyone else? | ||
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MB get back here and give me a reason not to kill you. In fact. ##Unvote ##Vote: MoonBear I'm more on this train than Alz at this point. | ||
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For example... On October 13 2014 03:44 MoonBear wrote: Because it's way too convenient to start picking on the people who make outlandish posts than the people actually trying to cause chaos and work against the town. The entire Day 1 has just been shifting gears around trying to accuse people over super trivial matters instead of anything important with various people trying to take control and manually drive what the town should be thinking instead of just letting it happen automatically. I don't get THIS at all. I understand the problems with D1 and all the accusations flying around. What I don't understand is what is meant by "letting it happen automatically." If we're not making cases and trying to prove something, what happens "automatically" is a shot in the dark (which statistically ends in scum's favor) or a no-lynch (which automatically ends in scum's favor). I don't like either option. If there are people trying to cause chaos/work against the town, I wanna hear who they are. As far as my reads on who they are, I'm still suspect on Tolk, but I'm not going to go on that just because the bandwagon is turning against him. I think Tolkien's thoughts made sense from his big post, so unless anyone has any further reasoning they haven't explained (Wave), then I see no reason to lynch him yet. My suspicions have risen vs. Req since he started playing for real, but that's at least partially just because he disagrees with me and that doesn't mean he's not town (much like you, Alaric). I think that Coma is dangerous lurker scum as well, perhaps more dangerous than Alz and this point since he's silently throwing votes out. On the other hand, I feel like ketchup's thoughts have been all over the place, which I don't like per se, but I can't fault him for suspecting Wave, since I'm not 100% on him either. I go back and forth on soniv and Wave and I think that only time will give me a better read on them. That being said, I don't approve of Wave's LT vote entirely. tl;dr - I'm sticking with MB for now because I've got net 0 info from him EVEN though he's put effort into this. If I can't get him lynched, then it'll have to be Coma because he's ALSO put in net 0, but a percentage of that feels like lack of effort, which is shitty but not 100% scummy. | ||
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I wanna give you benefit of the doubt because I feel like you lean town, but I'd be happy to switch my vote to you since I don't REALLY know where you stand. Voting to lynch me makes me less convinced of your towniness because, unlike Alaric, I don't think your posting indicates a townie spot super well. | ||
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@MB, I want to point out that I'm still open to be swayed. No one's 100% guilty on D1. Come @ me with something good and I'll switch to that lurker scumbag Coma because he certainly hasn't done much good for himself. Vice versa for you Coma. Why aren't you scum? | ||
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On October 13 2014 06:15 Requizen wrote: ##unvote ##vote waveofshadow Now use your words please. Why the sudden change of heart? | ||
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lol it's not like my opinion has changed, just that I'm willing to hear his pleas. Anything less and the scummy scum dies. Coma is next on MY chopping block barring strong evidence against someone after N1 or his genuine participation in the thread gorrammit. | ||
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On October 13 2014 06:31 Requizen wrote: Like I said, both are on my scum list. But Wave is much more manipulative and that worries me. He also has very strong biases at this point in my opinion, stronger than I'm comfortable with given the lack of info. Okay, fine. I'm not entirely settled on Wave either, but no matter what I just want to hear opinions with votes. No reasoning (even if it's not always good reasoning) leaves a bad taste in my mouth. | ||
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On October 13 2014 06:50 WaveofShadow wrote: Yeah I won't bother explaining why because I'm just going to be accused of manipulating people. I get the feeling we won't be lynching scum today....you may be right with your newbie-game lurker attitude. I want to hear about this opinion sometime if you can ever feel like people won't lynch you for it alone. | ||
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On October 13 2014 06:53 Lord Tolkien wrote: Fine, i will. The bandwagons are too small. With 2-3 mafia (prob 3), our unconsolidated bandwagons are probably not scum. Everyone being fine with a MoonBear lynch is another red flag and im going to counterpush now. Off. Now. Okay, so basically you'd rather RNG lynch than lynch MB? Honest question. | ||
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I don't want to lynch a townie, but in lieu of a better argument for WHO to lynch (even if that argument is in the form of an RNG function... though I'm not in favor of that on principle) I gotta stick to my guns. MB's showed no evidence he's town and provided no good reasoning or opinions for anyone else. What he has done is post a bunch of weird, unclear stuff. That smells like scum. | ||
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How about you Jeff? You've been avoiding way too long. Pressure's on now. ##Unvote ##Vote: GhandiEAGLE If this is the line we need to take to get some answers, I'll jump on the bandwagon. | ||
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On October 13 2014 07:40 WaveofShadow wrote: Ugh let's not consider bussing please. There are already so many people in here who don't understand trends and the way things work. (That being said I'd bus like absolute fucking crazy too lol 'cause I always do) I may be reconsidering an Asmo lynch. He's just so apologetic and hanging on to the coattails of others.... Maybe so, but this D1 is confusing as fuck and I don't have much else to go on. Also, I don't like being a jerk, even in Mafia, so there's the apologizing. | ||
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##Unvote ##Vote: MoonBear I don't think I'm changing that anymore since it's dinnertime. Let's see what the night brings. | ||
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Stupid no editing. | ||
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Damn It. I gotta rethink my strategy here. Clearly that didn't work. fk | ||
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MoonBear was a big mistake (at least partially on my shoulders) that fit right into the scum plan. LordTolkien, God rest his soul, died for that same agenda. I have made mistakes in this game. I plan to correct them with scum bodies. That body is Soniv. This hurts because I like the townie front Soniv puts on, but that’s because it’s a damn good front for scum. It starts with the MoonBear vote. Unfortunately, the MoonBear attack on D1 makes a lot of sense: MB’s posts are weird, don’t contribute much, and he more or less falls off the map. For the same reason, I also suspect him and, because MB’s a lurker, I manage to convince Alaric as well and generally keep the bandwagon rolling. This all seems well and good… so much so that there’s really no reason to directly suspect Soniv to be scum from this alone. We all make mistakes. BUT I believe that the MB mislynch was the first part in a scum plan to use crappy town play (like mine) and low-level lurking to kill off town players at the bottom of the barrel, while the mafia blows away the best town targets, such as LT. Annoying as he was, LT was one of the more useful townie players and, by claim, still had the possibility to hold a special role. Obviously, I think that the main scum target for would be Wave, but killing off Wave so early would’ve silenced a voice that, even indirectly, was giving cause for chaos and confusion and anger from townies. The fire started with ketchup (Alz earliest, but still) and caught easily, making Wave an unwitting ally of the scum. LT, on the other hand, may have rallied after trolling to lead the town closer to victory. That couldn’t stand, so he dies. I think this line of thought (and the plan altogether) takes experience to figure out during D1, and that also leads me toward Soniv. Taken alone, this could be considered paranoia and reading too deeply into things. However (and as ketchup notes), it’s happening again. First, Soniv goes on Ghandi, creating a short-lived alliance between him and Wave just as Wave’s finished gunning for him. It’s easy to attack Ghandi since he was on LT’s list and on the top of Wave’s plus he hasn’t been around a lot to defend himself, putting him in the “semi-lurking, only maybe town camp.” That benefits Soniv possibly more than town, EVEN if Ghandi’s scum. But then, the target jumps to one that’s even easier: Coma. Barely posts, total lurk, easy target. And lo and behold, there’s a nigh-immediate bandwagon. That’s scary strong. Even worse, I don’t think that a lurker lynch serves the town past D1, not when our numbers dwindle so much. If town mislynches again, shit’s going to seem hopeless because we’ll really be grasping at straws. Especially if the polarizing figures of Wave and Ghandi remain in the game after N2 along with whatever remaining scum exists. People have been saying Wave’s manipulating the game. If so, it’s far too obvious. I think the real game’s manipulator is Soniv and his scum goons (possibly Ghandi, Req, and/or Alz). ##Vote: Soniv | ||
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Damn I can't keep up with y'all. | ||
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On October 14 2014 14:15 ketchup wrote: Damnit Asmo. Why do you have to post something legit on me like this. Because I'm town-bro like you guys. I'm just shit at posting with frequency and it takes a lot of thought for me to pull something out like that. Plus, I needed your and Wave's help. | ||
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After my post, Soniv's made decent plays as both scum and town (WIFOM, I know, just bear with me). He's marginally addressed my post: not drawing too much attention to it, but also no hard denial/OMGUS. That's a town reaction, especially so far from deadline. He's also found someone to go after, which is the town's good work should Req bleed red. That's another seemingly town interaction. However, the manipulation factor is still relevant. At this point, we all kinda know how Req plays: volatile states, prone to lashing out. It's emotional play because Req's a sensitive dude (and this is not meant to offend sir), and it's easily manipulatable (even ketchup got his goat, and that was probably unintentional). If Soniv wants to cover his tracks well, the best way to do it is to set off Req since it's unlikely he'll be able to get a rise out of Wave at this point, and no one else has proven to be so easy to control (again, don't mean to offend buddy). That also fits in with the "fake anger" that Alaric pointed out: play an emotional game, get easy emotional feedback. I think the intent of this is to get the focus away from Soniv and onto Req, and I think it's working. Which is dangerous (Wave sees that). Furthermore, Soniv's other reads are still lurkers like Coma and Ghandi. I genuinely don't believe that lynching a lurker does the town that much good atm. I think the scummers are at least more active than Coma, especially since they had a pretty great first cycle. When you're winning, you stay more invested. I believe any given lurker is most likely to be town, including Coma, despite his lack of good content (which pisses me off a lot, but doesn't necessarily make him scum). Unfortunately for those of us on Soniv's trail, Jeff is another story. Jeff's posting looks fishy as fuck, fishy enough that most people smell stink coming from his direction, real or not. What's interesting to me about Soniv's perspectives is that there have been indications that (after Req) Soniv's next target is Coma, and not the more egregiously suspicious Jeff. For posterity (and I acknowledge this may have changed): On October 15 2014 07:20 jcarlsoniv wrote: at least someone is coming to their senses When I think someone is town, I say that they're town. When I think someone is scum, I say that they're scum. There's no use in me stating that I have null reads on all of these scummy as fuck lurkers, just as you do. I have already said that my town reads are you, ketchup, 6ah (obviously), Alaric, and probably Alz. You know my biggest current scum read right now is Req, and somewhat lesser than that is Coma. I thought you were on to something with Asmo until he made his case on me; now I'm not so sure. The rest are a bunch of god damn lurkers that I don't know how to get a read on. I'll probably put my eye to one tonight to try and glean any semblance of usefulness. This whole thread feels like town yelling at each other for the most part while a bunch of people are watching. There's my stupid fucking list post, all of my reads can be found in the thread, as I know for a fact that I've said them all. Speaking of scummy as fuck lurkers...Jeff, where the fuck are you To me, this says that Jeff is sacrificial scum: the scum (read: Soniv) know he's going down eventually, but they're going to try and put off a lynch on him until they get as many lurky town-peeps as possible. Definitely Coma, but I don't know if it ends there. Maybe Soniv rounds back on Alz (but here my reasoning gets less event-based, so let's avoid mere ideas). @Cixah - I think you can gather from my thoughts that I think Req is misguided town. If he's scum, it's a damn masterful job. owb is less clear. Not a lot of content, lots of questioning without a real opinion in a while, and his last vote with an OMGUS against Jeff. That doesn't look very town. On October 14 2014 11:29 onlywonderboy wrote: Holy shit I might just lynch Jeff for this post. I was more active than him during the first half of the night phase and then he comes out of no where and makes this post. Which fine, I've been away for a lot of the game, but I had also posted this before You even reading the thread? It's fine that you were away because of real life responsibilities, but I'm scum for it? Okay. ##Vote: GhandiEAGLE owb for me at the moment is leaning scum, just from those three things, now that I think about them. But he could also be genuinely curious and unsure in a mafia game. His posts read like they do in RL. So I can't be sure. I also can't get a read on mordek to save my life, but with a soniv vote that leans me in favor of town for now, just for agreement's sake. We'll see. As far as participation goes, I have some thoughts to share post-game. However, now they'll just come off as noob whine or some other cancer, so it's not really the time nor place. TL;DR - I'm still feeling good about my scum read on Soniv, so that's where I'll stay. LT wouldn't be the first person he's convinced he's town (that honor is mine), so I'm not letting up until this ugly feeling is gone, hopefully in the form of some red blood. | ||
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On October 15 2014 10:56 ComaDose wrote: besides the lack there of That's mostly it, I think. Vagueness and minimal posting = easy scum read. | ||
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On October 15 2014 11:15 jcarlsoniv wrote: I don't like this post nearly as much as your first one. The meat of this paragraph is coming from the assumption that I am manipulating people, specifically Requizen. This is so ridiculously off base. I saw the intereactions between ketchup and Requizen. I then began pressing him as well. He shut down and became erratic under any hint of pressure. Everyone is excusing it because it's Requizen, and I'm calling bullshit. And once again, you're parroting this "fake anger" thing. And I will repeat - Wave's play is frustrating me, and I'm trying to maintain a level headedness. You are taking Wave's misguided crosshairs as gospel and using that to justify something that is simply untrue. I'm not excusing it, I'm saying I'm buying it so far. Req's posting style all over this site reads like this on his bad days, and you and I both know that. His last game went into this direction at points, and you were in it with him. You're a good enough player that if you wanted to take advantage of that, I think you could. Again, Wave wasn't the one who pointed that out. Sure he jumped on the idea, but it was Alaric's observation. Maybe Wave's collusion is hinting that he's looking to get you lynched as a scummer. Maybe it means he and Alaric are in it together for the scum glory. But I doubt it. The possibility is there and it fits with the subtlety of the scum play I'm accusing you of so far. Lynching a lurker D1 and lynching a lurker D2 are two wildly different things. The way things are going, I still maintain that the majority of this thread is town yelling at each other while the scum just sit quietly and get by with minimal posting. Because this is a game of mafia noobs and seemingly busy people, I'm guessing there are just as many (read: more, because of the scum:town ratio) townies lurking. I think pointing a lurker gun hits town more often than scum. I lumped Jeff in with the "scummy as fuck lurkers" because, as said above, there is a larger than I'm comfortable with number of scummers hiding in the lurkers. Because let's face it, half of the players in this game are not posting enough. Earlier on, I believe I said something to the effect of "just because LT is dead doesn't mean you can get off scot free and not post anymore" to him, and so I'm trying to keep him honest. There are lots of lurkers, and I wish other people would be addressing them directly as well. That bolded part at the end serves absolutely no purpose other than to shed me in a negative light. It's pure conjecture with no basis. You're right. I shouldn't have included that. It was a tangential thought based on one of your earlier scum reads. Probably doesn't apply now. Perhaps this is the best opportunity for a question: do you prefer a Coma or Ghandi lynch, of your two non-Req (and me I guess) candidates? That's really what that section was about: your priorities. I don't understand why you'd be praising his scum play. He's playing so scummy that there's no way he's scum? And therefore it's masterful? Not a chance. I don't know how well Req can fake his angry self. That's what would make it impressive to me. Can't do much about that. I can talk about it now or later, but when so much of what you and others are saying is factored around non-participation, it's relevant. I'm not going to let it be part of the case against me. + Show Spoiler [Participation] + I misjudged the time I would need to take part in this game well. That's what it comes down to and I bet its the same for others. We can discuss it further later. I didn't convince LT of shit, I haven't had to defend myself until today, after he was dead. He made that read based on what he saw of me in game, I don't really think I had many 1 on 1 interactions with him. Welcome to my scum list Asmo. Your first case post was good. This one reeks of scum trying to keep the momentum on this bandwagon because wave is stirring up enough trouble to keep it viable. That's what I meant by "convince": your in-game play was towny enough to keep LT off you. It wasn't direct, it was far better. And it worked on me. Not hard, certainly, but I think it worked on LT as well. | ||
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I didn't think there were any other super essential outstanding questions for me to answer here from my quick read-through. If anyone disagrees, I'll be reading close up till deadline and will try to answer. | ||
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On October 16 2014 05:56 WaveofShadow wrote: I want people's scumreads other than soniv/jeff. Actually I think it's time to stop discussing them entirely unless you have something new to bring to the table. Asmo who is your third? Argh this is such a rough call since I think they're in the "not-posting-a-ton-so-I-don't-totally-get-them" camp. I don't THINK Coma is scum, but he could still flip red (just unlikely to me). Same with Req, but he's more vocal and that ground been trodden. owb is a bit suspicious to me, mordek is suspicious to me (less so), Alz still is a wee bit suspect (mostly lack-of-post related). Alaric is a damn weird case. I love his posts but I feel like I won't be surprised if he flips scum. It'd be one of those "FUCK I SHOULD'VE SEEN THIS COMING" scenarios. That might just be paranoia though. Pressed for a third... I think my biggest candidate right now is owb. But really I've just been looking at the top two. I haven't searched for the final scum yet. | ||
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I mean, not so lost I won't vote Jeff. | ||
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Wow. wtfever I'll do it. ##Unvote ##Vote: Alzadar | ||
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On October 16 2014 08:29 WaveofShadow wrote: Asmo dropped the hammervote. Highly doubt he's scum now. That's because I'm not. + Show Spoiler + I'm just shit-bad at this game, apparently. Don't matter if dem scumz die. | ||
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On October 16 2014 08:31 ketchup wrote: Alzadar, where did you disappear to? Scum HQ. | ||
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At least SOMETHING died. | ||
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On October 16 2014 09:04 GhandiEAGLE wrote: Damn that coulda been a huge lynch but ketchup was such a fuckwagon that we're still basically screwed. Also I'm really sure of the Mordek OWB train that I'm riding right now. Preeeeetty damn confident. That's a damn good call at this point. | ||
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On October 16 2014 09:14 Alzadar wrote: I need a fucking drink, honestly. You've earned it. This shit be crazy. | ||
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On October 17 2014 02:08 Alzadar wrote: I'd really like to hear from Asmodeus also. Now that things have cooled a bit, how do you feel about the lead up to the lynch? You changed your vote a lot without saying anything. Do you still suspect Ghandhi? After the Soniv reveal, all my shit went out the window. I was bandwagoning at that point. Ghandi seemed like the next best, and while I don't think he's purely clean, he doesn't reek of scum to me at this point. Then there was you, and you didn't do much early, so I was fine with that lynch, especially since it went that way for everyone else. Same story with Coma. tl;dr - I was in full bandwagon mode because all my reads have been shit-ass-wrong. Now I don't know who to suspect, though I don't really buy Req's case against Wave because I do think he's town and I feel weird about owb, who still hasn't posted much after the shitstorm. | ||
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On October 17 2014 04:40 mordek wrote: LYNCH HIM Look who's talking. | ||
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On October 17 2014 04:48 mordek wrote: Seriously. Also I think I'd prefer 24 hour days, 48 seems like forever. I hate waiting so long to actually get concrete information lol I think 48 hour days are great when players are more active than we are. :/ | ||
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On October 17 2014 06:48 jcarlsoniv wrote: I wouldn't mind a few more opinions on my check tonight Similarly, if there's an overwhelming consensus about my scumminess, check me. | ||
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On October 18 2014 14:24 WaveofShadow wrote: You know, for somebody with Asmo as his top scumread, you really should vote him, or you know, do SOMETHING don't you think? In fairness to my case, in the next posts after I ask for a check, I remember that GF is a thing and shrug with the uselessness of it all. To be honest, I'd probably want to lynch myself too after TWO anti-townie campaigns gone wrong. Unfortunately, I'm the only one who knows I'm innocent. In an effort to redeem myself, I'll deep dive into some filters to find scum when I can up until deadline. | ||
AsmodeusXI
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I like the case vs. mordek so that's where I'll put my silly vote. ##Vote: mordek | ||
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MY FATE IS IN YOUR HANDS TOWN (and a little bit of your fate too). HAVE AT THEE. | ||
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welp I think the lesson most of us learned is that Mafia requires a time commitment most of us can't/won't commit to. I know I certainly did. | ||
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On October 22 2014 11:06 onlywonderboy wrote: Win is a win I'll take it. Happy birthday then you poop. | ||
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