Avogadro's Number Mini Mafia

On October 12 2014 07:11 DarthPunk wrote:


It looked to me like I was being left out.

On October 12 2014 07:12 VisceraEyes wrote:

Take it more as "I know DP is capable of posting freely like this as mafia"-type compliment instead.

On October 12 2014 07:14 DarthPunk wrote:


ZZZ

I liked it until you pointed it out.

On October 12 2014 07:18 Damdred wrote:


But is picking on the little things when their is so little to go on (lolz) actually alignment indicative? I'm not so sure that it is, especially with geripts history with me, try to explain to me more why this is mafia trait and not bad/good early scum hunting?

Not sure what you mean about DP, hes voted three people in this thread I think. Is throwing a vote around like that scummy for DP?

On October 12 2014 07:22 geript wrote:
This is going to be sweet. I think we're all town. I wonder who between DP, VE and myself they're going to risk shooting.

On October 12 2014 07:23 Damdred wrote:


Nope I don't think its scummy, I think a vote could be a good pressure tool.

On October 12 2014 07:25 DarthPunk wrote:


I also think we three could all be town. The only thing that gives me pause is "vet balancing" IM not sure if BH does it or not though.

On October 12 2014 07:30 Hopeless1der wrote:

so about the other like 5 or 6 players who havent posted yet...

On October 12 2014 10:01 Barakos wrote:
Hi guys, I am here... and I am town!

First impression is, that I don't like DP that much atm... huge filter, yet not a matching amount of content, many pointless posts, that inflate his filter + seems more concerned about calling people town, than acutally finding people, that aren't town, yet again puts lots of emphasize on the joke-claim by sqrt.

Also asks about reads, others have on him, which to me is something, mafia would be concerned about, but not town...

Scolding GB for intercepting one of his questions, while he does the same thing with a question GB asked directly at hopeless...

Will do some more reading and be off to bed afterwards...

On October 12 2014 10:48 ritoky wrote:
how's everyone doing?

what's everybody havin for dinner tonight? i am having a nice pasta primavera.

On October 12 2014 11:58 geript wrote:
This is a game called mafia not ask the most inane stupid brain cell destroying questions. If you don't make me think you're super town by the end of the day, then I'm lynching you. Play the game or gtfo ritoky.

On October 12 2014 12:04 ritoky wrote:


in 1 post, i have provided more content than 3 of your pages. so what if i surround it with 5 posts of talking about food. i like food, don't you?

how come you and geript are now a package deal. buddying up much?

On October 13 2014 01:19 Oatsmaster wrote:

because there is simply no need.

On October 13 2014 01:31 Oatsmaster wrote:
Easiest way to get lynched is probably to shit on rayn.

On October 13 2014 01:34 raynpelikoneet wrote:

Why would you not do shit when i am alive?

On October 13 2014 02:34 VisceraEyes wrote:
The important thing is that I can see GB making that read as both mafia and town, so it's null to me.

On October 12 2014 19:25 raynpelikoneet wrote:

ftr I don't think sno is mafia.

On October 13 2014 09:34 DarthPunk wrote:


Association cases before a flip VE?

What we COULD do is just flip sn0_man and see if he is mafia or not.

On October 13 2014 09:41 DarthPunk wrote:


Yep. I think it would have been talked about 100%.

On October 13 2014 09:52 geript wrote:
FWIW, I've seen sn0 afk as both alignments pretty consistently. @DP I dont' really see that as a townslip by sqrt. To me that's more just not paying any attention to the game. If anything it means sqrt is unlikely to be mafia with rayn but meh.

On October 13 2014 09:54 VisceraEyes wrote:

I think this was unlikely anyway due to rayn sticking his neck out for lurker sn0 - I feel like if buds rayn would just push someone else rather than call him town based on nothing verifiable.

On October 13 2014 17:43 DarthPunk wrote:


I am not town reading geript right now and I don't know why because I really want to.

On October 14 2014 01:03 geript wrote:
@VE. How sure are you of that meta read on GB? Also what you think of oats?

On October 12 2014 15:30 geript wrote:

On my reread, I found this post interesting. GB doesn't call me mafia for my push on a weak read. Rather it comes off as semi-inquisitive which I like. Kinda seems like he might be thinking about the game. Sleightly towny.

On October 14 2014 01:56 GlowingBear wrote:
Can you also answer my read on sqrt, VE?

On October 14 2014 02:02 geript wrote:

Once you brought that post back up I like the read again. Doesn't mean it's right. Why do you think that post would stick in my head as important on the first reading VE?

On October 13 2014 17:24 raynpelikoneet wrote:
To clarify. I don't think sn0 is necessarily town. I think he is basically unreadable on d1 and what he has said is in line with his towngames imo. Geript has a point on oats. Oats could be mafia because is not crazy-pushing anyone.

GlowingBear is clearly not scumhunting and making posts without even thinking what he says. His scumreads changed suddenly to sno & kush.... surprise surprise lurkers. I don't buy his defense. I just don't. For a second i thought he was town because of his comment on oats but then he went back to derpland immediately.

Ritoky could still be scum. I don't see what he is trying to achieve wirh his latest posting.

Other people look more or less town. Not lynching sqrt.

On October 14 2014 03:14 geript wrote:
I don't really like the GB lynch. I kinda think he's town and he's been really active. I could be wrong. Plus, Oats is voting for GB which doesn't bode well imo. I could switch to Sn0 or maybe ritoky for lulz. VE I think you're probably town here. Rayn might be mafia, really unsure of that. It really bugs me that I don't have a good townread on him right now. I'm pretty sure that DP is town; moreso than I was last night.

There might be 1 active scum, but I think most of the scum are in the non-vet less active people. I find it a bit interesting how DP tends to have a really good read on Kush but doesn't as of yet as best I can remember. So Kush is someone else we should probably consider lynching. I honestly don't think we can expect Sn0 to post much if anything on D2 given my experience with him. Damdred I think is another good lynch; that said, that's a bit less consistent because I've always read him as mafia. His start was exceptionally odd considering his pasts games.

Imma be honest VE; I think you're really off track.

On October 12 2014 15:42 geript wrote:

This post bugs me and I'm really unsure why. I'll figure it out later.

On October 14 2014 03:14 geript wrote:
I don't really like the GB lynch. I kinda think he's town and he's been really active. I could be wrong. Plus, Oats is voting for GB which doesn't bode well imo. I could switch to Sn0 or maybe ritoky for lulz. VE I think you're probably town here. Rayn might be mafia, really unsure of that. It really bugs me that I don't have a good townread on him right now. I'm pretty sure that DP is town; moreso than I was last night.

There might be 1 active scum, but I think most of the scum are in the non-vet less active people. I find it a bit interesting how DP tends to have a really good read on Kush but doesn't as of yet as best I can remember. So Kush is someone else we should probably consider lynching. I honestly don't think we can expect Sn0 to post much if anything on D2 given my experience with him. Damdred I think is another good lynch; that said, that's a bit less consistent because I've always read him as mafia. His start was exceptionally odd considering his pasts games.

Imma be honest VE; I think you're really off track.

On October 14 2014 03:47 geript wrote:

How often is the most active person in the thread mafia? That's a good reason in and of itself. I don't think he looks great, but I feel like if he's mafia we should have more damning evidence.

On October 14 2014 03:55 Oatsmaster wrote:
no VE. you arent lynching me.
Go away.

On October 14 2014 04:16 geript wrote:

No he didn't.

On October 14 2014 04:13 Oatsmaster wrote:
I like how geript puts more effort into a case on me rather than a case on Damdred who he thinks is scummier.

On October 14 2014 04:40 geript wrote:
nah, still playing league. Still think Oats/Damdred are mafia. I retract my townread on VE. He's probably mafia. Don't feel like explaining why. But basically, there's no way he could possibly suck this much as town. Also, how did he forget that GB has an 8 page filter if he's town. He's read him a bunch apparently to think he's mafia but doesn't realize how much he's posted? WTF.

On October 14 2014 04:40 geript wrote:
nah, still playing league. Still think Oats/Damdred are mafia. I retract my townread on VE. He's probably mafia. Don't feel like explaining why. But basically, there's no way he could possibly suck this much as town. Also, how did he forget that GB has an 8 page filter if he's town. He's read him a bunch apparently to think he's mafia but doesn't realize how much he's posted? WTF.

On October 14 2014 05:03 geript wrote:

No I'm not. Because Town VE likes going on lurker lynches. Especially when he has a bunch of townreads. Yah I thought you were town. There's literally no reason to think I'm mafia. So no I don't think that town VE is all like, "I'll avoid a lurker lynch on Sn0, a lurker lynch on Damdred and a effectively lurker lynch on Ritoky to jump on Geript because of shit reasons." You're a solid town player. I don't think you can suck this badly. All that said, GB reading me as town like that is a really fucking scummy post.

On October 14 2014 05:10 DarthPunk wrote:
geript if you die who should we lynch?

On October 14 2014 05:12 DarthPunk wrote:


Yeah but I want him to say something realistic VE. There is no way you are getting lynched.

On October 14 2014 05:14 raynpelikoneet wrote:
I am lynching everyone who votes for geript if (when) he flips town.
Then the townies on the lynch can blame themselves for losing the game.

On October 14 2014 05:19 raynpelikoneet wrote:

I am voting for someone so i can fucking NOT lynch you!!!

On October 14 2014 05:26 raynpelikoneet wrote:

Are you seriously saying this ?!?!?!?!?!?
I have probably called you mafia and wanted to lynch you in my ~10/15 last towngames!
Like what the hell is this supposed to mean?

On October 14 2014 05:28 DarthPunk wrote:


VE vote oats with me.

On October 14 2014 04:08 VisceraEyes wrote:
##Vote: geript

Geript uses page-count in filter to condemn Damdred when Damdred is evidently not around to make the posts. Rather than make a read on his content (which he should be doing if he's "seriously filtering him now") he falls back on activity to justify his vote. Geript is looking really really bad to me.

On October 14 2014 06:51 raynpelikoneet wrote:
You havea tendency to think everyone who suspects you is mafia so your second point does not really mean anything.
Fair enough. I promise to read what happened there tomorrow.

On October 15 2014 01:44 raynpelikoneet wrote:
I will lynch everyone who will even TRY to lynch any of prime claims.

On October 15 2014 01:59 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Corazon was getting lynched and geript, instead of really defending corazon pushed oats and grackaroni who noone else wanted to lynch.

On October 15 2014 02:06 geript wrote:

He could do that but it's unlikely. Thus why to look at hopeless in part.

On October 15 2014 02:23 geript wrote:

He just got out of a scum game where he was caught. Looked similar to his play here. It's the right play for scum to claim. It gives mafia extra info about setup. Free town cred from the numpties. Etc.

On October 15 2014 02:30 geript wrote:
Ok VE be bad or be mafia. Your choice.

I'd like to point out that any medic or cop flip proves me right. And either should claim at start of d2.

On October 15 2014 04:41 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Well i will make sure you'll get lynched tomorrow if you do not play.
Do you think you are playing mafia now kush? This is a serious question. Do you think you have played mafia in this game -- while the game has been going on?

On October 15 2014 04:44 kushm4sta wrote:


yes i do honestly. we have very different notions of what it means to play mafia I guess

On October 15 2014 04:45 kushm4sta wrote:
isn't it weird that rayn is speaking from the point of view that i'm town when he has no real reason to think that?

On October 15 2014 05:14 kushm4sta wrote:
doesn't help town
does help scum

On October 15 2014 09:01 GlowingBear wrote:


Why would I check you if you were not going to die?
With a flipped check, I could check anyone night2 and get his alignment, including you.

On October 15 2014 09:11 Hopeless1der wrote:

*hint*
hes not a cop.

On October 15 2014 09:13 Hopeless1der wrote:
Okay VE, here's where I'm at.
- I KNOW he's lying.
- I think he's town because of 1v1 suicide pact reasons.

On October 15 2014 09:14 GlowingBear wrote:
VE that's totally true.
I rescind my claim.

I was already about to rescind because I've gathered enough reactions from my fake claim and I losing more time debating this will be detrimental to town.

On October 15 2014 09:19 GlowingBear wrote:


There is no reason for me to rescind my claim if I was mafia now.
I would've fight your argument and try to mislynch hopeless instead of retracting it.

On October 15 2014 09:25 GlowingBear wrote:


VE, CR was a big question mark. Look at his reaction and see if that is coming from a mafia perspective.

On October 15 2014 08:11 GlowingBear wrote:


I checked Rayn. I thought he was going to die instead of DP.
Why does that matter to you? You had a town read on me and hopeless isn't even playing the game. Why are you hesitating?

On October 15 2014 11:42 GlowingBear wrote:


I haven't found it yet. I'm gonna do that later because I'm lazy right now.

On October 15 2014 10:07 GlowingBear wrote:


Yes. He is putting himself outside the town faction

On October 15 2014 09:29 VisceraEyes wrote:
My guess is that the scum team is sqrt/geript/GB and they were in panic-mode after D1 because of all the strong townies aligning against them, so they're trying something really really outlandish and unorthodox. That's my guess. I'll look again tonight after All-Stars. In the meantime, every townie votes GlowingBear or accepts that they'll never win this game.

On October 15 2014 10:07 GlowingBear wrote:


Yes. He is putting himself outside the town faction

On October 15 2014 14:58 geript wrote:
VE I'm not bussing. I just shouldn't have signed up to play.

On October 15 2014 15:15 VisceraEyes wrote:

I swear I'll help you out with that tomorrow after we deal with GlowingBear. Unless he just blows me away with towniness. Then we'll do it today.

On October 15 2014 15:52 Chairman Ray wrote:
What's the difference between this and "In case of ties, first come first lynch"

On October 15 2014 16:10 raynpelikoneet wrote:
GlowingBear you need to answer these questions:
1) What did you gather from your reaction test. Clear answers not some generic bullshit about what would mafia most likely do. Who is mafia and why regarding your test? You retracted so you MUST have figured out something.If you haven't you are scum.
2) How can you have POSSIBLY thought Hopeless is mafia in this situation where mafia shoots DarthPunk? Like do you think there is ANY chance Hopeless fakeclaims prime -> shoots the second town prime -> in case town has a power role it's gg Hopeless is outed on this day or the next one.
3) Why is sqrt's post @ D2 start good? Show me the good things about that post because i think it's terrible and contradicting itself.

If you are going to say the only thing you gathered from your reaction test is that Hopeless is town i will lynch the fuck out of you because we already knew that on N1 as per what i already fucking said. If that's the ONLY thing you got and can "reasonably" explain you are just confusing the town and you will not get out of this one alive.

On October 15 2014 14:26 VisceraEyes wrote:

Like here's my thing - while thinking Hopeless was Damdred he tried to leverage his claim plus Hopeless' activity to get Damdred to vote for Hopeless. Once he fucked this up, THEN he unclaims.

All townies MUST vote for GlowingBear today. I've even convinced Geript the Mafia to bus this guy, everyone use your heads and do the right thing.

On October 15 2014 14:29 VisceraEyes wrote:
Like, that's why he bails on the claim. NOT because he was reaction testing, but because he fucked up and tried to manipulate someone who wasn't even here. If he is trying to get a READ on Hopeless, then he doesn't MISTAKE Hopeless for DAMDRED and try and get him to lynch HIMSELF man! If he's trying to get a read on Hopeless that post would be directed AT Hopeless or whatever.

Guys VOTE FOR GLOWINGBEAR!

On October 16 2014 02:31 geript wrote:
As far as what I make of it, idk. I think he's probably awful town. Maybe he's really dumb scum and VE is right. All I know is that I'm probably going to look really bad after today regardless of what happens.

On October 14 2014 04:08 VisceraEyes wrote:
##Vote: geript

Geript uses page-count in filter to condemn Damdred when Damdred is evidently not around to make the posts. Rather than make a read on his content (which he should be doing if he's "seriously filtering him now") he falls back on activity to justify his vote. Geript is looking really really bad to me.

On October 16 2014 03:03 geript wrote:
Tbh VE other than calling you bad and disagreeing w/ GB lynch twice is there an actual reason you want to lynch me?

On October 16 2014 03:35 geript wrote:

Except that I usually read people mostly on meta.

On October 17 2014 01:55 GlowingBear wrote:
Ok, I'll sheep you.
But promise you'll read my cases at night, VE

On October 17 2014 02:40 geript wrote:

None taken, I'm not sure I'd read me as town objectively.

On October 17 2014 03:48 GlowingBear wrote:
I have a bad feeling that he will flip town

On October 17 2014 04:03 VisceraEyes wrote:
geript explain why you said you expect mafia to claim Prime but you've been utterly ignoring Hopeless as a potential mafia candidate today.

On October 19 2014 01:24 kushm4sta wrote:


Lol

On October 19 2014 01:26 kushm4sta wrote:
Too funny ve too funny.

My only question is this:
Where do you get the balls?