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On October 06 2014 21:05 Grackaroni wrote: What happens next? We random lynch into the VT claims? Sounds good to me That sounds reasonable. Before that though I think you, oats, and slam should explain the benefits of claiming in this setup. | ||
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I never claimed. I don't think there's any benefit in claiming in this setup. We don't even know what/how many roles are in the game. Noted: oats is being defensive | ||
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On October 06 2014 22:27 Oatsmaster wrote: dude what the fuck then? Why waste our time? ITS NEVER FUCKING BENEFICIAL TO CLAIM IN A NORMAL GAME DAY 1. WHY THE FUCK DO YOU THINK MAFIA DOES NOT KNOW THAT?? ?!??!?!? I didn't make you claim. You could have just said this in the first place instead of doing something you admit is "NEVER BENEFICIAL." | ||
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On October 06 2014 22:53 Holyflare wrote: also someone in this game needs to stop me going off on some policy tangent instead of chasing the people i'm actually scum reading, I nominate batsnacks to fulfill this job! Let's do it. Who are you actually scum reading HF? They're no match for my bat traps. | ||
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I agree with what HF said about hopeless. | ||
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Or are you annoyed with being in the spotlight this early? | ||
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On October 06 2014 23:28 Oatsmaster wrote: You dont get to claim credit for something that happened accidentally. What are your reads, mainly holyflare and me? I agreed with HF a lot last game and he was town. I'm agreeing with him this game already so, tentatively town. I'm voting you because I think you're scummy. Also lol at "accidentally" You claimed on accident now? | ||
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Bat traps too strong | ||
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On October 07 2014 00:51 liancourt wrote: I dont think we can scum read oats based on him agreeing to the mass claim when in the first place it was bats who suggested it. Although his reactions afterwards seems a little over reactive . But I do believe that he was joking when he claimed town. I mean theres no other option but to claim vt. You cant scrutinize him for that. Also I find it strange everyone agrees on the fact that it was a trap set by bats. Its the perfect excuse for scum to say something was a trap and point fingers at random people. If I was serious about a mass claim I would have claimed in the same post. I didn't. In the next post I said there is no benefit in mass claiming, something oats agrees with yet he still felt the end to claim. | ||
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On October 07 2014 01:05 liancourt wrote: But it was a joke claim I dont think you can really read anything into it. Unless he actually claimed something other than vt I might agree with you. I didn't scum read him for claiming though. | ||
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On October 07 2014 01:13 liancourt wrote: Although oats' reaction is slightly over the top which does make me wary and I do agree his reactions compared to gracks is somewhat more lets say lively I dont get the feeling he is scummy. Seems natural for town to react that way when someone questions your joke claim. It seems natural to start screaming when someone questions your joke claim? Does it also seem natural to claim and then immediately after say that claiming is "NEVER FUCKING BENEFICIAL [sic]" | ||
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I need to talk to hopeless more soon | ||
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On October 07 2014 02:23 batsnacks wrote: @BH if I claim scum is RNG lynch still better than lynching me? | ||
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On October 07 2014 02:35 Blazinghand wrote: Are you denying the underlying math of RNG? Look dude there's roughly speaking 13 players, right? If 3 are scum, then that gives us a solid 22% chance of lynching scum purely based on RNG. Now, this isn't a very good ratio, I understand. Often, town can beat it for D1 lynches. But unless you put together a better case, the fact of the matter is, I'm offering a straight-up 22% chance to lynch someone. On top of that, once I've RNGed someone, I tunnel them until they are lynched. This is pretty much historically accurate. OO has accepted his fate, which makes me think he is scum (town is usually super outraged when they get RNGed). I've updated the odds of OO flipping scum to be much higher as a result. That being said, I am willing to change vote if you guys can offer something better, but things like "someone was yelling in all caps" or whatever other baloney is going on doesn't even come close to matching up with RNG in terms of usefulness as a heuristic. | ||
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On October 07 2014 02:35 Blazinghand wrote: ...there's roughly speaking 13 players, right? If 3 are scum, then that gives us a solid 22% chance of lynching scum purely based on RNG. No townie in this game knows the ratio of town to mafia, so it is correct here that BH gives us an example ratio of 10/3 or 22% as an example. But then later in that post he says this: On October 07 2014 02:35 Blazinghand wrote: ...the fact of the matter is, I'm offering a straight-up 22% chance to lynch someone. BH how do you KNOW there are exactly 3 mafia? I bolded fact because that's a serious word to throw around when you're supposedly working with estimates. | ||
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On October 07 2014 08:10 Grackaroni wrote: This game was the heavyweight championship game btw. tsk tsk 3-4 is the reasonable assumption for mafia with 14 people so the 22% isn't very strange to me. But he offers it as a "straight-up" "fact" | ||
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On October 07 2014 08:19 Grackaroni wrote: You're implying that at the start of the post BH was careful not to slip that he had knowledge of the setup. (by pointing out that the number of scum is unknown) and then *slipped* that he was 100% sure there were 3 mafia within like 10 seconds of typing which is really unrealistic. What I see is BH working off the assumption that random lynch provides at least 22% chance of hitting mafia compared to day 1 analysis which varies (and BH thinks is worse for catching mafia) I think it's feasible that he slipped. besides The TL mafia database disagrees that random lynch is better. So by random lynching we 1) have worse odds of lynching mafia and 2) players who agree with the random lynch have zero accountability for their votes. | ||
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On October 07 2014 08:20 Hopeless1der wrote: the math fails are strong. A) 3/13=23% B) 14 players (3/14 = 21.4%, 4/14=28.5%) C) 3 mafia makes perfect sense given the roles present in this game. omw home soon, will reread after i get there and get something to eat, expect me in ~3 hours max. p.s. stop using setup speculation for scumreads. This doesn't account for 3rd parties. | ||
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On October 07 2014 08:31 ObiWanShinobi wrote: BH always does this, ergo you can't draw conclusions about his alignment using plays that he makes regardless of alignment. Please don't push scumslips because they are the worst heuristic in the history of the universe. Find something better then. | ||
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On October 07 2014 08:32 Blazinghand wrote: Are we really talking whether or not I "slipped" that there are 3 mafia in a 14 player game? Again? Do we have to do this every time? BH remember that time you didn't know what 3:1 odds were? And you actually told someone this game they aren't educated enough to understand your posts? You might have slipped. | ||
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On October 07 2014 08:46 Blazinghand wrote: You know what's amazing? I never get called out for "scumslips" as scum. I certainly do scummy things, and get called out for it, but I never seem to "slip" because "scumslip" isn't even a thing. And probably at least 1 in 4 games as town (that's 1:3 odds) I get called out for some inconsequential "slip". It happens all the time, and if it was ever correct it wouldn't be annoying, but it's literally _always wrong_. Like, in a 14-player setup would anyone really be surprised if there were 3 scum? Come on, guys. I assume everyone is on my level, but I can't just make the logical leaps I do when people are like "oh, BH is correct about something, so he is scum???" I don't actually think you're scum I just want you to stop this rng bs... Like fine... I get it... you found a way to rng lynch on TL without the possibility of gaming it. I do think that's cool. It's something I have thought about before and I never figured out a good solution. I am glad I read your post about it because now I know how. It is interesting. ... but I also think it doesn't help town unless town are robots. Maybe some townies are worse than robots... point them out... that would be way more helpful. | ||
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On October 07 2014 08:53 batsnacks wrote: Maybe some townies are worse than robots... point them out... that would be way more helpful. Should be maybe some PEOPLE are worse than robots... | ||
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On October 07 2014 09:38 liancourt wrote: Is the poisoned wine in front of me or you? He's tricking you. Both glasses are poisoned. | ||
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On October 08 2014 01:28 Hopeless1der wrote: OO is a lurker lynch and an RNG lynch. Where the hell is batsnacks..fuck it I'm at work I think Liam is town | ||
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On October 08 2014 02:22 Hopeless1der wrote: You had one job batsnacks. + Show Spoiler + and then HF gave you another one. Does it make you nervous that I've already figured out you're mafia? | ||
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New people on this site get free town reads from me If you want a better explanation I'll be around for serious later | ||
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On October 08 2014 02:33 StorrZerg wrote: yes i'd like a better reason than policy It's a good policy I think our player base would be larger if new people didn't always have to read a small novels' worth criticizing everything they do | ||
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On October 08 2014 02:39 Hopeless1der wrote: That....has nothing to do with why lian is town to you. I literally just said it does Try to lynch me for it scum You wont | ||
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Give Liam a chance he's doing fine | ||
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If Liam is scum HF is not accurate | ||
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I can't manufacture sense I'm just posting because I'm bored. I will stop if this annoys you but I won't stop if it annoys hopeless. | ||
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But I do know that vato means dog | ||
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On October 08 2014 06:15 Palmar wrote: You understand the "fan" post has nothing to do with the game at hand, I just like slam's posting in general, and I don't like how batsnacks plays the game. Go read the last game if you need any explanation as to why batsnacks is a dick and shouldn't be listened to. I bet I can get you lynched again.  | ||
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He "pressures" keiser with a vote: On October 07 2014 16:30 Oatsmaster wrote: clearly you arent reading hard enough. HF gave a fine explanation and even explained why he said "filter" in the first place. And you dont understand the reasoning behind HF's case. HF is saying that Obi keeps complaining about there not being content but Obi isnt doing anything to create content. No analysis. No reread then some new insight. Just chitchatting with Damdred. Obi doesnt even use the defense that you proposed which means its clearly not what Obi was doing. Therefore you're townread on him is bad and that means you are scum. ##vote KelsierSC Then he's satisfied very easily with I'm not sure what for I'm not sure what reasons: On October 07 2014 19:50 Oatsmaster wrote: Yeah cool you changed my mind. Great job kelsier. ##unvote Liancourt and oo might be scum. Liancourt cause he has no scum reads other than "they did nothing" Then he picks the easy target that isn't his mafia buddy: On October 08 2014 02:07 Oatsmaster wrote: ##vote oo I tshink this is the pretty clear choice for today. The only time he's mentioned OO previously was here, in the same post he scum reads keiser: On October 07 2014 15:53 Oatsmaster wrote: The obi stuff is interesting. He doesn't defend himself in any meaningful, rational way. Just gets irrationally angry and hf and starts a fight. I would expect scum to not be so foolish and actually defend themself with better stuff. Too bad to be scum is my current read. Keilsar or whatever his name is is scummy for reasons. So is oo. I think there's definitely scum in the lurkers so lynching into there is fine. Liencourt never responded to my question  And he's scum reading them both for literally "reasons [sic]" His vote on keiser seems fake. | ||
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On October 08 2014 06:55 Palmar wrote: batsnacks with the associative reads #proscumhunter It's not an associative read. I think his vote is fake even if they're not both scum, which I think they both are. Why are you posting when you haven't read the thread? | ||
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On October 08 2014 07:00 Palmar wrote: Because interactive reads are usually far more valuable than reading after the fact, because you can more accurately process the emotional state of the player involved. This is one of the main reasons that by far the largest contributor to success in mafia is simply spending as much time as you can in front of the thread. You're can't interact with the thread if you haven't read the thread. What you're doing is interacting with yourself. We're all watching you "interact" with yourself. | ||
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On October 08 2014 07:04 Hopeless1der wrote: you just interacted with palmar. sadly its useless, but you've already proven yourself wrong. grats Don't be upset. On a scale of 1 to 10 how strongly do you think Oats felt about keiser being mafia? | ||
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On October 08 2014 07:07 Hopeless1der wrote: 7ish So, about where on the scale is strong enough to actually give reasons other than him just saying he scum reads keiser for "reasons"? 8? 9? | ||
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On October 08 2014 07:11 Hopeless1der wrote: wait are you saying i have to explain or are you saying oats didnt explain? I'm saying oats didn't explain. His reasons for scum reading and voting keiser were LITERALLY: "reasons" As in he just wrote the word "reasons" and didn't say anything else. "reasons" is also the why he unvoted and switched to OO. He didn't say anything else. | ||
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And I think it's positive that he learned, accepted, and worked with that in regards to BH. | ||
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On October 08 2014 07:43 Damdred wrote: Grack if I said there is a decent chance bats could be scum would you think I'm crazy This is because of what I said about free townreads for Liam, isn't it? You won't catch me with that this game. | ||
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On October 08 2014 07:54 Damdred wrote: This is actually null for me this game bat, I think every time we've playes together and you were town you are 100% towards giving the newer players a pass for day one. What would you say to that you are posting extremely structured, you are forming cases without tunneling and you are posting during certain time frames? I'd say thank you... If you're scum reading me for those reasons though I would say that I am capable of being structured as either alignment. I am also capable of being unstructured as either alignment. I would say that my cases haven't been that great; honestly if anyone I made a case against is mafia it's probably not because of what I said in the case, though it might be because how they reacted to my case. I have a tendency (as town) to read people based on their reactions, to my own posts in particular. I don't really read people based on how they are acting in the thread as a whole. And I always post at about the same time every day. | ||
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On October 08 2014 08:31 Damdred wrote: @Bats I think I understand what you are saying bats. And yes there are examples of you playing that way. So maybe I trust you for now unless some of your prominent scum tells come out and I won't divuldge damdreds super meta explanation of bats. Now here's where I am in the thread there are still a few question marks for me in the thread. But I think oo unless he returns is the best lynch just to clear the deck even if he isn't scum. If he doesn't participate today he probably won't next cycle and we will be stuck on him then It makes me crazy that you might have some super secret way of reading me that I have no idea about. The free towntells one when I'm scum was good, I've been looking out for that ever since you said it. | ||
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On October 08 2014 09:24 Holyflare wrote: i just want to lynch someone how about obiwan? | ||
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What about keslier guy? | ||
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On October 08 2014 13:03 Holyflare wrote: shooting obi tonight No I'm Spartacus | ||
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On October 09 2014 00:31 ObiWanShinobi wrote: I refuse to believe that you have a gun and would actually shoot me based on such a tenuous case. Is that really the most unbelievable thing about his claim? | ||
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I would be able to answer this question pretty easily... But only if I'm town. | ||
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On October 09 2014 01:28 ObiWanShinobi wrote: Do you think town has the same kind of self-awareness/groupthink of a scumteam behind them? What makes you think he would be able to answer this question both truthfully and accurately? I asked for an opinion (his), not a fact | ||
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On October 09 2014 01:34 ObiWanShinobi wrote: And what do you get out of it? What will his answer tell you about his alignment? I really want him to be mafia so it would be great if he could help me scum read him. | ||
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On October 09 2014 01:49 Holyflare wrote: btw bh is also mafia ![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/WNwKk9V.jpg?1) | ||
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On October 09 2014 03:12 Damdred wrote: Couldn't BH manipulate it before he posted it though so that it did not come up a scum buddy? Though in tin hat land this woudl be amazing for him to get town cred for life No | ||
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On October 09 2014 09:27 Oatsmaster wrote: How does palmar saying a bunch of names you agree with without putting in any effort to convince people townie? QEspecially since its night. It's complicated. He's hitting all the buttons I'm used to seeing. The only one I know of he hasn't pressed yet is telling us if he gets vigged he'll be angry and will rage post game. | ||
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On October 09 2014 09:43 Oatsmaster wrote: I haven't seen that button you are talking about. What are some of the buttons he has hit so far? The "cba to read" button The "this guy is mafia, even though not reading" button The "i want to lynch <x> for that post" / "this is a mafia post" button The "voted at the height of a questionable wagon on someone different" (OO was afk at the time so it sort of looked like a lurker/policy lynch) The "reads" post at night button The "HF is a good check" button He does this stuff in a lot of the games I've played with him as town. | ||
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Mafia kills HF and the real vig actually shoots obi? Unless mafia kills me. Then I can't shoot anyone. | ||
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On October 09 2014 11:11 Hopeless1der wrote: because RNGesus told me to. No wait that was Blazinghand. same difference. In all seriousness, it seemed inevitable and I wasnt interested in pushing damdred or lian over OO, especially since OO came in long enough to give us something and never return. I was willing to switch around up until I asked where the hell did he go? What do you think your scummiest post is? | ||
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this is exactly what I wanted oats to say thank you | ||
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Hopeless Damdred Kelsier Maybe Store | ||
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I'll "reasons" later. Would like damdred to post things. | ||
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On October 09 2014 22:35 KelsierSC wrote: No I made that point once. The quote was about how he would rather lynch storr/damd over OO which makes no sense to me. Didn't he vote OO though? | ||
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On October 09 2014 22:40 KelsierSC wrote: But I didn't like how he said he would rather lynch storr/damd over them. And his reason for not voting OO at that time was bad imo. Damdred was scummy d1 though... And store was tunneling him pretty hard. He also scum read palmar, which is also easy to understand IMO. I think him wanting to lynch them makes sense from town perspective. The OO wagon did look like a weird policy lynch for a long time because OO never posted. If you can tell me why you don't like him scum reading damd/store/palmar I will probably take you off my lynch list. | ||
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On October 09 2014 22:50 Damdred wrote: Lian when you get back tell me, Why is Obi scummier for trying to get a Palmar lynch going over Bats trying to get an Obi lynch going near eod? @Kel I can understand that. @Bats Storr shouldn't be his scum read, hes actually putting some effort into the game and early on made a decent case about lian and tried to push it. No way scum storr does that early, he has not been lurky and has been involved and gives his thoughts basically whenever he asks. Palmar is not sure, hes probably third party. I'm town so yea What were stores other reads d1 and what reasons did he give? | ||
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On October 09 2014 22:52 KelsierSC wrote: well we probably disagree on the timing but to me it was along time after the RNG and OO was a clear scum, like it was very obvious and to say that he wants to lynch damd/storr/palmar over OO because of his own principal. I really didn't like that. I didn't like him scum reading storr because storr was clearly town to me, he had been active. yeh he was single minded on lian but I don't like the attitude that "he is scum because he called me scum" For Damd, Again I have personal reasons for reading Damd as town, I guess from lian's perspective he could be scummy, but I don't see why he was a better lynch than OO at all. And palmar hadn't said anything at that point, it is easy to say "he is inactive, he is scum" lynch him instead of OO I disagree OO was "obviously" scum. He was obviously scummy but I wouldn't have been wowed and amazed if he flipped town. I went to sleep believing an obi lynch was possible that's why I left my vote there. Store was focused on Liam almost exclusively and his huge case was pretty early in the day for a case that big. It's also a little convenient that store was sure Liam wasn't a smurf before he posted the case, or any reads at all on Liam. It's very easy for me to understand liam scum reading him. Palmar wasn't actually that lurky and the first thing he said was "cba to read." Of course this is scummy if you've never played with palmar before. | ||
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On October 09 2014 23:22 StorrZerg wrote: what do you guys think of liancourt's reaction when dealing with HF, claiming vig/cop. "Well grounded" "steadfast" "suspicious" | ||
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On October 09 2014 23:25 StorrZerg wrote: thanks for the great input badsnacks any other takers... What did you think? | ||
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On October 09 2014 23:32 StorrZerg wrote: about your input? lack luster and meaningless. doesn't add anything for the conversation nor drive it into something productive. short and meant to stifle conversation. No I mean what did you think about Liam's interaction with the claims? | ||
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On October 10 2014 01:31 Hopeless1der wrote: tbh feels townie. Early game, HF bounces all over everything he can. He generally does that as either alignment. Way easier to assume he's town than to try and analyze him. after his night posting I'm sure hes town. | ||
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Oh well maybe I'm wrong hopeless but I don't this what you just wrote about holy flare is consistent with what actually happened d1. | ||
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On October 10 2014 01:37 Hopeless1der wrote: as in most of my posts to him were of the wtf are you doing variety? And you just said that it's better to just auto-town read him than try to analyze. So that's not consistent. Or I'm missing something maybe. | ||
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On October 10 2014 01:39 Hopeless1der wrote: Its mildly inconsistent I guess. Makes sense in my head. If you already answered this sorry but Was there something specific that HF said d1 that made you say wtf? I'm trying to think of what would make you say wtf if you're auto-town reading someone. All I remember HF doing d1 was sort of pressuring oats early then staying on OO for the rest of the day. | ||
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So? HF gets into fights like that every game and obi was pretty scummy, plus last game obi played perfect scum and fooled everyone and his posting d1 this game was similar. That's not very "wtf" to me. | ||
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On October 10 2014 01:54 ObiWanShinobi wrote: Earlier in day 1 you said my posting wasn't the same. Now it was the same? No. You aren't even doing that thing where you randomly show up and say "Hello" "Sup" | ||
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On October 10 2014 02:06 ObiWanShinobi wrote: There is no chance I lynch anyone but Hopeless today. Damdred is town though. Yeah but is Liam mafia and is it because of what damdred said? I still think Liam is town but I think it's a good case so... I have conflicting thoughts. | ||
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On October 10 2014 06:13 ObiWanShinobi wrote: I could totally replicate this entire conversation as scum. Don't even play that card, yo. This conversation, maybe. n1 conversation, I think no. | ||
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On October 10 2014 07:42 Blazinghand wrote: Catching up now. I'll post replies as I come across posts that interest me. At the moment, my lynchables are h1 and ows. h1 because of the cop check (which may not be a cop check...) and ows because of his reactions to the OO wagon. I may swap back to ows after I'm caught up. This is correct. There's a small chance that scum shot Oats, but I can't imagine why they would. Oats wasn't an amazing vigi shot but he was a solid one, and he would have been a truly awful mafia nk. Oats regularly gets falsly scumreaded, so you always leave him alive when you're scum. doesn't matter, by n2 he gets his second shot off, no problem. On October 09 2014 17:11 Holyflare wrote: I am also not the cop | ||
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On October 10 2014 08:23 StorrZerg wrote: is anyone complaining about my lack of reads? or is it just you? me | ||
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On October 10 2014 21:22 Holyflare wrote: Because he's a twat face Really though. He freaked out last game about my soft claim that wasn't a soft claim, and here you've "claimed" like 10 times and he hasn't said anything. | ||
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But I don't think the reason store is tunneling Liam is because Liam is new here. Also last game the new person was much, much different than Liam. That guy got really bitter and shut down under pressure. Liam is not shutting down. So, that sort of nullifies Liam's logic. Even though it sounds really good. It's too late in the game to be playing the "I'm new" card, and what Liam just wrote is more or less a really wordy iteration of the "I'm new" card. | ||
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On October 11 2014 00:47 KelsierSC wrote: yeh I suppose he did in as many words. I want to know what storr thinks about the unvote and flip. Well, since Liam didn't actually address anything he's being scum read for, I doubt store is going to be changing his read. | ||
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On October 11 2014 01:56 Blazinghand wrote: Could you expand on this a bit? You were once an OWS voter but now you've moved off, and I'd like to know a bit more about what about OWS' posting makes you think he's not scum I think he's town because of how he defended himself n1. Seemed legit. I agree that he's done scummy stuff, stuff you and others have brought up... That's why I didn't say anything when you said "you'll have to do better than that bats" or something earlier. | ||
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On October 11 2014 02:03 Palmar wrote: Yeah and in that one game I policy lynched a guy day 1 for not reading his role pm and in the next one I called policy lynches stupid. I do things because I feel like doing them. Me too Scum obiwan takes the path of least resistance... Obiwan is not taking the path of least resistance. I think HF already said something to that effect and I agree. | ||
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On October 11 2014 02:07 Blazinghand wrote: what are your thoughts on Hopeless? Earlier he was on your "would lynch" list (link), but then you complained about spending all day talking about him (link) even though you admit he bailed after he became a topic (link). Given all this, why the vote on Damdred? It seems to me that you should be eager to vote hopeless, who is actually a legit wagon. And if you're not, why aren't you yelling at people to get on the Damdred wagon? I think hopeless is by far the scummiest person in the game and the most likely to flip mafia. I just feel like voting damdred right now. I think he might be mafia, but I couldn't convince anyone he is so I haven't said anything. Besides we have like 10 hours. | ||
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On October 11 2014 06:34 Hopeless1der wrote: yes, but why batsnacks? wait why what? | ||
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On October 11 2014 06:37 Blazinghand wrote: HE BETTER, BECAUSE I HAVE. HIS LEADERSHIP STYLE IS BAD AND HE SHOULD FEEL BAD. Do you feel that your leadership style was better? | ||
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On October 11 2014 02:16 batsnacks wrote: I think hopeless is by far the scummiest person in the game and the most likely to flip mafia. I just feel like voting damdred right now. I think he might be mafia, but I couldn't convince anyone he is so I haven't said anything. Besides we have like 10 hours. | ||
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On October 11 2014 06:43 Hopeless1der wrote: Between which time I posted a case on damdred, the person you also want to lynch. Do you have any comments or questions to pursue instead of being a dick all over again? I never said I wanted to lynch damdred. I said I thought he might be mafia and I said I felt like voting him. Now I don't. | ||
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On October 11 2014 06:46 Hopeless1der wrote: Okay...for future reference: Votes are for lynching people you think are mafia. Okay? Is that clear or do you need a diagram? I'll take a diagram since you're offering. | ||
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But I know I can't... Mafia makes the diagram... Town tells me to fuck off... But I really want to unvote hopeless | ||
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On October 11 2014 06:59 Blazinghand wrote: who else do you have in mind? surely you're not moving back to damdred. No I won't be voting damdred again today. Probably won't be voting anyone else today unless something unexpected happens. I'm about here in the moment: hopeless > liam > obiwan, BH, store > damdred, palmar, HF, keyser ???>slam>??? If hopeless is town this all probably changes. | ||
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On October 11 2014 07:21 Blazinghand wrote: if you think storr, me, AND OWS are all scummier than damdred, why in the name of the lord would you vote him? damdred says things whenever I vote him. and his position in line changed after he defenced hopeless's case. before I was really suspicious about the spelling mistakes. | ||
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On October 11 2014 07:22 KelsierSC wrote: Please spell my name properly 😞 Sorry Chelsea | ||
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On October 11 2014 07:25 KelsierSC wrote: Well played at least I'm not singling you out... liam and store are getting the worst of it. now other people (host included) are spelling their names wrong. | ||
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##vote: Holyflare | ||
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On October 11 2014 09:11 Blazinghand wrote: oy bats you want to explain yourself a little better? BH you have commented on HF shutting down everything not hopeless-voting related today. imo HF needs to vote hopeless or he's mafia and has been intentionally sabotaging the entire day. Nothing about obi has changed that should make HF switch votes for legitimate reasons. | ||
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The hell if I know. If you wanted to switch to obi you should have gone about today differently. | ||
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On October 11 2014 09:26 Holyflare wrote: Bats will you town read me again if i switch back? Can't bear you hating me babe. I don't hate anyone But yes you should switch back | ||
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On October 11 2014 09:17 Hopeless1der wrote: ##Unvote ##Vote: ObiWanShinobi Hopeless is mafia What happened to him being dead set on lynching damdred? He votes obi as soon as a switch seems legitimately possible. | ||
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On October 11 2014 05:07 Hopeless1der wrote: Yes I'm sticking to my read and hoping the people who havent arbitrarily decided I'm scum no matter what actually read my case instead of looking at who posted it and going "lol scum." On October 11 2014 09:07 Hopeless1der wrote: Do I have your permission to afk on obiwan's wagon and then try to push damdred again tomorrow? | ||
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On October 10 2014 10:47 Hopeless1der wrote: yeah obiwan's town..i think i want to lynch damdred over lian. going through lian's filter now. | ||
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On October 11 2014 09:51 Holyflare wrote: You would be lynching your town power role and i legitimately am one. Do they tell stories about the boy who cried wolf where you live? | ||
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On October 11 2014 09:55 Blazinghand wrote: hf you must just be trolling us at this point He's not trolling he's mafia. Obiwan has a majority right now because of my vote on HF. Hopeless will dodge the lynch if nothing changes. | ||
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Yes it does | ||
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On October 11 2014 11:25 Holyflare wrote: So who the hell else is mafia Palmar | ||
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On October 11 2014 11:35 Holyflare wrote: Anyone wanna switch to palmar for the lolz? Can we please? 100% serious. | ||
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On October 11 2014 11:38 Holyflare wrote: I want hopeless to attempt to save himself and put an iota of care into this defence if he's saying he's town. Hopeless has put forward 1000000x more iotas of care than palmar. | ||
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On October 11 2014 11:39 Holyflare wrote: Yes well palmar is useless but that doesn't make him mafia batsnacks it makes him useless and a dick Which is why it would be funny if we lynched him. Again. | ||
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On October 11 2014 11:40 ObiWanShinobi wrote: Don't tempt me. He won't be able to defend himself again. ... it would be funnier the second time ... in a row | ||
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On October 11 2014 11:41 Holyflare wrote: I very much dislike that he is not playing it's pretty annoying and rude Hopeless, liam, and obiwan will almost certainly sheep if we both vote him... this is totally doable and would be absolutely hilarious. | ||
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##vote: palmar Some men just want to watch the world burn. | ||
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On October 11 2014 12:19 StorrZerg wrote: yet your on the chopping block, and you think obi is town. so........................................... im not on the chopping block i can do what ever the fuck i want cause im town too. (palmar isn't going tobe lynched) Not with that kind of attitude he isn't. | ||
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On October 11 2014 12:41 Holyflare wrote: Need a vote count up in here Obiwan is set to be lynched | ||
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On October 11 2014 12:42 ObiWanShinobi wrote: Batsnacks could you just not be a dick near EoD pls. On October 11 2014 12:34 ObiWanShinobi wrote: I don't see it. Even if I did, I still can't see the contradictions in his play be worth overlooking to consider not lynching him over it. He had plenty of time to defend himself but put me on /ignore when I engaged him over it. obiwan you are the most guilty person in this game of bolded | ||
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On October 11 2014 13:06 Grackaroni wrote: Now I can't shoot Palmar You could have lynched him I was very serious about it. | ||
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On October 11 2014 13:10 Damdred wrote: I think Kel is the best shot tonight, I think lian is a good lynch but i'm pretty sure mafia in this situation would bus and not be on another wagon if they were active. And god my attempted shenanigans make me look bad now If I'm being honest your reply to hopeless' case does not look like a mafia/mafia interaction But I have said that before about you and been wrong But I don't think I'm wrong this time | ||
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