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Holyflare
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October 02 2014 13:52 GMT
#38
If this starts after the weekend i can /in
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
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October 03 2014 20:43 GMT
#53
On October 04 2014 05:06 geript wrote:
Essentially that so far. Poisoner isn't required to kill. I've slowly been updating the FAQ. 1-2 roles may change dependent on the final chosen setup. Specifically Vet may get a vest that he can pass off as a night action.


dont do this please, it's supposed to be a normal mini after all and the third parties are already borderline enough
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
October 03 2014 21:37 GMT
#57
On October 04 2014 06:06 Promethelax wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 04 2014 05:43 Holyflare wrote:
On October 04 2014 05:06 geript wrote:
Essentially that so far. Poisoner isn't required to kill. I've slowly been updating the FAQ. 1-2 roles may change dependent on the final chosen setup. Specifically Vet may get a vest that he can pass off as a night action.


dont do this please, it's supposed to be a normal mini after all and the third parties are already borderline enough


Movable vests have existed in normals before. I don't find them to be outside the realm of normal. Feel free to argue the case though.


meh I just don't see things like 3rd party bodyguards with variable win condition and a vet that can gift vests as normal because they are roles that have modifiers on them to make them different from normal
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
October 06 2014 10:52 GMT
#87
yo
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
October 06 2014 10:55 GMT
#88


mafia is fucked
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
October 06 2014 13:45 GMT
#112
Grack claims vt then says to random kill vt claims, oats claims vt then says it's not good to claim anything. The fuck?

##vote oats
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
October 06 2014 13:51 GMT
#114
always :D
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
October 06 2014 13:53 GMT
#115
also someone in this game needs to stop me going off on some policy tangent instead of chasing the people i'm actually scum reading, I nominate batsnacks to fulfill this job!
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
October 06 2014 13:58 GMT
#120
On October 06 2014 22:57 Oatsmaster wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 06 2014 22:45 Holyflare wrote:
Grack claims vt then says to random kill vt claims, oats claims vt then says it's not good to claim anything. The fuck?

##vote oats

yeah because nobody will claim anything other than VT.
ITS A JOKE HOLYFLARE.


Then why respond in screaming caps lock if it was just supposed to be a funny joke? That's quite an overreaction for something you are agreeing with batsnacks for (that we shouldn't claim)
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
October 06 2014 14:00 GMT
#123
On October 06 2014 22:54 batsnacks wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 06 2014 22:53 Holyflare wrote:
also someone in this game needs to stop me going off on some policy tangent instead of chasing the people i'm actually scum reading, I nominate batsnacks to fulfill this job!


Let's do it. Who are you actually scum reading HF? They're no match for my bat traps.


Hopeless and oats, oats because of what I said. He "jokingly" claimed VT because everyone is supposedly going to do the same thing and then when you reveal that you don't actually want people to claim he yells despite saying the same effective thing????

Hopeless because of his weird question which was asking how sure are you on a scum read that's in like the first hour of the game. Pretty weird thing to ask.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
October 06 2014 14:01 GMT
#125
On October 06 2014 23:00 Oatsmaster wrote:
It blows my mind how that could be seen as anything other than a joke post.
FOR BOTH SCUM AND TOWN WHICH MAKES IT USELESS BAT.
COMPLETELY FUCKING USELESS.


He said we shouldn't mass claim. Like. He flat out said it was bad. You AGREE WITH HIM..... Yet you are yelling at him..................???!?!??
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
October 06 2014 14:04 GMT
#128
On October 06 2014 23:02 Oatsmaster wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 06 2014 23:00 Holyflare wrote:
On October 06 2014 22:54 batsnacks wrote:
On October 06 2014 22:53 Holyflare wrote:
also someone in this game needs to stop me going off on some policy tangent instead of chasing the people i'm actually scum reading, I nominate batsnacks to fulfill this job!


Let's do it. Who are you actually scum reading HF? They're no match for my bat traps.


Hopeless and oats, oats because of what I said. He "jokingly" claimed VT because everyone is supposedly going to do the same thing and then when you reveal that you don't actually want people to claim he yells despite saying the same effective thing????

Hopeless because of his weird question which was asking how sure are you on a scum read that's in like the first hour of the game. Pretty weird thing to ask.

no everyone isnt supposed to claim vt.
Im yelling cause Bat thought that was a legitimate strat which its not. Nothing to do with the action of claiming.


he didn't think it was at all, he literally says the same thing you are saying and you even QUOTE that post and you yell about it "not being a legitimate start"

On October 06 2014 22:27 Oatsmaster wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 06 2014 22:15 batsnacks wrote:
On October 06 2014 22:04 Oatsmaster wrote:
On October 06 2014 21:18 batsnacks wrote:
On October 06 2014 21:05 Grackaroni wrote:
What happens next? We random lynch into the VT claims? Sounds good to me


That sounds reasonable. Before that though I think you, oats, and slam should explain the benefits of claiming in this setup.

you start.


I never claimed. I don't think there's any benefit in claiming in this setup. We don't even know what/how many roles are in the game.

Noted: oats is being defensive

dude what the fuck then?

Why waste our time?

ITS NEVER FUCKING BENEFICIAL TO CLAIM IN A NORMAL GAME DAY 1.

WHY THE FUCK DO YOU THINK MAFIA DOES NOT KNOW THAT?? ?!??!?!?

Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
October 06 2014 14:06 GMT
#132
bats: I don't think its good to claim at all
oats: FUCK YOU MAN WTF CLAIMING IS SHIT TOTALLY A NOT LEGITIMATE START
hf: you're saying the same thing and even claimed vt
oats: it was a joke!
hf: but you still agree about the same thing
oats: NO WAY MAN
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
October 06 2014 14:06 GMT
#133
anything that gets people talking is a legitimate strategy, nothing was even happening at the time
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
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October 06 2014 14:08 GMT
#136
so what if he can or can't? does that make him mafia????
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
October 06 2014 14:12 GMT
#141
and you don't think what you're doing is inevitably a greater waste of time!?
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
October 06 2014 14:31 GMT
#155
On October 06 2014 23:20 Oatsmaster wrote:
No right?
Yes, im confirmed town.
Grack is up in the air.
But probably town.
HF latching onto this point is really weird and scummy.


If it should have been obvious and I'm latching onto these points and misconstruing them so wildly, why do you think it's scummy instead of just misunderstanding because what you're saying is that i'm blatantly lying about something so obvious that everyone should see in order to get you lynched which i don't think would work in any mafia strategy ever.

Throughout your time you haven't even said ANYTHING was scummy until now and then criticised batsnacks for wasting time when instead he actually started calling people scummy straight away whereas you haven't shown any semblance of scum hunting whatsoever in your entirety of posting. You still really haven't, all you've posted is that grack is probably town based on ("...") but then neglected to comment on like anything at all. All you've done is got angry that someone started playing the game in a way that you didn't like.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
October 06 2014 14:47 GMT
#159
want to hear his reply first
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
October 06 2014 16:17 GMT
#177
lol storr reads me as weird but then says exactly the same thing that I have already said about oats' reaction ~_~

kelsier reads me as scummy for "flinging shit like slam said" but doesn't really explain how exactly I have been flinging shit and neither does he explain anything to do with oats such as why he'd be frustrated in the first place and then then further brings up the EXACT point I had already raised on hopeless.

In essence kelsier's post is a list post with the added scummy bonus of giving out free and easy town reads based on things that shouldn't be free and easy town reads
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
October 06 2014 16:18 GMT
#178
nor does anyone even mention how I haven't even voted for oats
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
October 06 2014 16:22 GMT
#181
On October 07 2014 00:09 Oatsmaster wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 06 2014 23:34 batsnacks wrote:
On October 06 2014 23:28 Oatsmaster wrote:
On October 06 2014 23:26 batsnacks wrote:
Oats if you are in fact "contributing" shouldn't you be thanking me? I did enable these "contributions" of yours. I feel like you're annoyed with me for allowing you to contribute.

Or are you annoyed with being in the spotlight this early?

You dont get to claim credit for something that happened accidentally.

What are your reads, mainly holyflare and me?


I agreed with HF a lot last game and he was town. I'm agreeing with him this game already so, tentatively town.

I'm voting you because I think you're scummy.

Also lol at "accidentally"

You claimed on accident now?

The whole argument is not planned by you, therefore it's an accident.

Holy flare, there have been a grand total of 10 pages in this game. Why do you want me to come up with a page long sheet of nonsense? You only have one scumread. And all your reasons are weak as hell and based on your misunderstanding of the situation. The reason why I think that is scummy is because you are stuck in a mindset that is biased. You want to call me scum and are looking for reasons to back that up. Town would do it the other way around.


Your reaction IS scummy, seeing as many other people have mentioned it too I'm pretty sure the majority of people agree. There is no need to be frustrated that someone whose alignment you don't know is doing something you don't agree with and then scum reads you because of a joke. Why would you ever ever ever be frustrated at THAT point? Maybe if he kept pointing it out over and over again you'd be frustrated but he hadn't done anything at that point but instead got people to start discussing things and you are acting salty about how his plan wasn't intended but did good things anyway.

There are plenty of things to talk about as well and they don't require masses of posting to discuss. Such as hopeless' scummy question to bs and how you even come about your read of "grack is probably town" based on literally like 3 pages of gameplay. These don't require essays but you still refuse to even elaborate on the read that YOU gave when it should be easy because it's what YOU think.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
October 06 2014 16:26 GMT
#182
my scum read on you is easy to explain

I didn't see your thing as a joke > scum read you for claiming and then berating bs for saying we should claim

(this was subsequently quashed by you, so scum read gone)

I see you react ridiculously to batsnacks because he got people talking and didn't realise you joked whereas you responded normally and not in mass caps to me, you also are frustrated that a player did something that wouldn't find scum (....lol) but then have done nothing to find scum, town read grack based on nothing and then wouldn't explain it when asked.

(scum read +++)
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
October 06 2014 16:31 GMT
#185
How can you be in this direction of thinking and be frustrated I don't get it.

"batsnacks plan is awful because it doesn't find scum!!! WHAT THE FUCK MAN WHY DO YOU THINK THATS GOOD"
"batsnacks is so fucking lucky his plan worked and found town"
"mafia aren't going to join in a mass claim so early!"
"man fuck batsnacks for finding townies, you so lucky batsnacks"
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
October 06 2014 16:33 GMT
#188
On October 07 2014 01:31 Alakaslam wrote:
Holyflare, Storrzerg, batsnacks team calling it nao

Gimme dat baller shot caller épée-

Wait this is not OMGUS.net


i know 1/3 of this is wrong and i actually think it could just flat out be all wrong
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
October 06 2014 16:33 GMT
#189
On October 07 2014 01:32 Alakaslam wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 07 2014 01:31 Holyflare wrote:
How can you be in this direction of thinking and be frustrated I don't get it.

"batsnacks plan is awful because it doesn't find scum!!! WHAT THE FUCK MAN WHY DO YOU THINK THATS GOOD"
"batsnacks is so fucking lucky his plan worked and found town"
"mafia aren't going to join in a mass claim so early!"
"man fuck batsnacks for finding townies, you so lucky batsnacks"

I think paraphrasing is an awesome tool for scum.

That actually is not quite what oats has been saying sson


then please go ahead and prove otherwise
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
October 06 2014 16:37 GMT
#192
On October 06 2014 23:05 Oatsmaster wrote:
its blatently fucking obvious to anyone with a brain that mass claiming day 1 in a normal setup is bad.
Yet bat seems to think that scum dont know that.
It irritates me.


On October 06 2014 23:07 Oatsmaster wrote:
Ok. To make it extremely clear.

I am not yelling at bat because I think that mass claiming is a bad idea.

Im yelling at bat because he thinks that he can catch mafia by suggesting a mass claim and looking at the replies.


On October 06 2014 23:11 Oatsmaster wrote:
Batsnacks test is bound to bring up false positives cause scum aint gonna claim first or second or third or fourth. So if scum arnt talking, his test is useless and a waste of time.


On October 06 2014 23:20 Oatsmaster wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 06 2014 23:17 Grackaroni wrote:
On October 06 2014 23:11 Oatsmaster wrote:
Batsnacks test is bound to bring up false positives cause scum aint gonna claim first or second or third or fourth. So if scum arnt talking, his test is useless and a waste of time.

if scum actually aren't going to claim first/second/third/fourth this strategy would be amazing for town hunting.

So you arent town then?

As scum, if someone suggests a fakeclaim, do you go anywhere near it until most of the thread agrees its a good idea?


On October 06 2014 23:27 Oatsmaster wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 06 2014 23:24 Grackaroni wrote:
On October 06 2014 23:20 Oatsmaster wrote:
On October 06 2014 23:17 Grackaroni wrote:
On October 06 2014 23:11 Oatsmaster wrote:
Batsnacks test is bound to bring up false positives cause scum aint gonna claim first or second or third or fourth. So if scum arnt talking, his test is useless and a waste of time.

if scum actually aren't going to claim first/second/third/fourth this strategy would be amazing for town hunting.

So you arent town then?

As scum, if someone suggests a fakeclaim, do you go anywhere near it until most of the thread agrees its a good idea?

lol actually no. I would probably wait to see if something like this ends up happening.

I'm just saying because you're so insistent that what Batsnacks did was shit for finding mafia and then you argued that the first people to join the claim would be town. Which should actually make Batsnack's plan helpful as now you're town reading people for claiming.

Bat didnt know this though.
Which still makes his plan shitty. But lucky.




If he's lucky and scum wouldn't do any of this why is bat not a town read at all? Just lucky, had a shitty plan, not doing anything at all, harping on same points?

On October 06 2014 23:20 Oatsmaster wrote:
No right?
Yes, im confirmed town.
Grack is up in the air.
But probably town.
HF latching onto this point is really weird and scummy.

Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
October 06 2014 16:38 GMT
#193
On October 07 2014 01:36 Alakaslam wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 07 2014 01:33 Holyflare wrote:
On October 07 2014 01:32 Alakaslam wrote:
On October 07 2014 01:31 Holyflare wrote:
How can you be in this direction of thinking and be frustrated I don't get it.

"batsnacks plan is awful because it doesn't find scum!!! WHAT THE FUCK MAN WHY DO YOU THINK THATS GOOD"
"batsnacks is so fucking lucky his plan worked and found town"
"mafia aren't going to join in a mass claim so early!"
"man fuck batsnacks for finding townies, you so lucky batsnacks"

I think paraphrasing is an awesome tool for scum.

That actually is not quite what oats has been saying sson


then please go ahead and prove otherwise

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/468053-fantasy-football-ffl-mini?user=Oatsmaster

There is all the proof you should require that you are not quoting oats and are therefore attributing further angst to his posts than he actually had (which was plenty)

American politics

hey look quotes now, maybe you should reread the filter before you have baseless denunciations of people!
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
October 06 2014 16:42 GMT
#199
On October 07 2014 01:40 Alakaslam wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 07 2014 00:38 Oatsmaster wrote:
On October 07 2014 00:16 batsnacks wrote:
Game didn't start on page 1

Bat traps too strong

I was guessing. Sue me.

Slam, bats is lucky because although his plan didn't produce his desired result or any result he would've expected, it produced something that isn't useless. So he unintentionally helped us. Which makes him lucky.
It isn't a very big point, I don't know why you guys keep harping about it

this is townreading bats.


or tmi? how can you just take it as face value town reading bats when he hasn't said bats was town at all previously?
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
October 06 2014 16:44 GMT
#202
On October 07 2014 01:43 Alakaslam wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 07 2014 01:38 Holyflare wrote:
On October 07 2014 01:36 Alakaslam wrote:
On October 07 2014 01:33 Holyflare wrote:
On October 07 2014 01:32 Alakaslam wrote:
On October 07 2014 01:31 Holyflare wrote:
How can you be in this direction of thinking and be frustrated I don't get it.

"batsnacks plan is awful because it doesn't find scum!!! WHAT THE FUCK MAN WHY DO YOU THINK THATS GOOD"
"batsnacks is so fucking lucky his plan worked and found town"
"mafia aren't going to join in a mass claim so early!"
"man fuck batsnacks for finding townies, you so lucky batsnacks"

I think paraphrasing is an awesome tool for scum.

That actually is not quite what oats has been saying sson


then please go ahead and prove otherwise

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/468053-fantasy-football-ffl-mini?user=Oatsmaster

There is all the proof you should require that you are not quoting oats and are therefore attributing further angst to his posts than he actually had (which was plenty)

American politics

hey look quotes now, maybe you should reread the filter before you have baseless denunciations of people!

It wasn't baseless; you were paraphrasing more emotion into his statements.

And I read the whole thing live. I remember and that is why I called you out for paraphrasing.

Use quotes EVERY TIME YOU CAN.

Paraphrase again and I vote you


i can paraphrase anything i want because that's exactly how it happened, he got frustrated about bats wasting time with a bad plan but if he REALLY thought what he thinks, that batsnacks got lucky and found townies then he didn't waste any time at all and so all his frustration isn't even real because what batsnacks did WAS helpful
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
October 06 2014 19:35 GMT
#268
On October 07 2014 02:15 ObviousOne wrote:
Okay good, now that's out of the way.

#1 oats is prob town he's too frustrated and sticking around despite it. By corollary I like HF and batsnacks based on that discussion.


#2 don't know what to make of Grack, he was present and participating in a conversation but I don't really see anything alignment indicative after almost a full page of filter

#3 interested in the reply from storr re: liancourt


Explain the bolded because several others have developed the opposite opinion.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
October 06 2014 20:41 GMT
#283
I didn't ask that at all
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
October 06 2014 20:41 GMT
#284
On October 07 2014 05:04 KelsierSC wrote:
HF what do you make of this RNG play from BH?

Do you think OO is a good lynch?


null

possibly
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
October 06 2014 20:49 GMT
#286
On October 07 2014 05:33 ObviousOne wrote:
Lol holy shit self voting is literally against the rules I should have read at some point. Someone asked bout my oats read and it was cuz he stuck to defending his claim as a joke an participated in tomfoolery ironically


Also what? That's completely different to what everyone else has said as well. Why does sticking to his reasoning being a joke make him scummy, what if he was towny and made it as a joke what else would he do?
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
October 06 2014 21:53 GMT
#294
who is hela?
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
October 06 2014 22:03 GMT
#304
If BH was town and decided he was going to RNG like he does in every game as every alignment and was only available at that point in time should he have withheld his usual entry to continue posting nothing?
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
October 06 2014 22:11 GMT
#313
On October 06 2014 22:57 Damdred wrote:
Oats is being super weird this game and it makes my skin crawl, last time we played he got really defensive about claiming and fought against it pretty hard. That doesn't make me look good on Oats right now.

Bat you and me are friends this game!

On October 06 2014 23:37 Damdred wrote:
When I first read the interchange I was pretty sure that it was a joke, but oats reactions throughout the rest of the thread is just weird. Oats why are you so defensive? I've never seen you play like this after getting called scum, you usually do not react at all just go on about your day, so whats up


On October 07 2014 02:35 Damdred wrote:
Thats just how BH is, RNG IS LIFE!?!

Reading over Oats again, his frustration seems real. A few things do not line up but i'm not so sure its alignment indicative i've never been good at reading oats granted.

So are you scum reading BH Kel?

Slam. I know you just put hf as a null correct? Do you make anything of hf putting all this pressure on oats? Would it be more town or scum motivated to do everything he did?


this is a pretty weird chain of events by the way, incredibly simplified and surface level!

First of all you scum read him because when he played scum he did the exact same thing and then suddenly when the topic is pushed aside your read flips and his frustration is real (despite making your skin crawl originally) so much so that you overlook all the inconsistencies.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
October 06 2014 22:15 GMT
#316
yes and everything else damdy has done is asking random questions :/
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
October 06 2014 22:21 GMT
#320
On October 07 2014 07:19 Damdred wrote:
Of course HF thats what I like to do early, I ask questions guage how people react to them and answer them and put them into my reads later. I don't bust stuff out super fast I have to build up to it unless I know someone well sadly.

And besides you still never answered my question why you never voted for oats even after pushing him so hard.


because he left and i have no new info, originally i didn't know there was a voting thread and then when i found out i acted like it was just a pressure vote in thread
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
October 06 2014 22:38 GMT
#323
don't really know nor care at the moment because oats has been talked to death and hasn't posted since we last talked about him so this line of questioning is quite frankly irrelevant and if you want to use it to somehow magically discover my alignment then you are wasting your time on it, i'm town and you'll find that out when i eventually get night killed.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
October 06 2014 22:54 GMT
#325
because I AM town so any attempt at looking at my filter to learn that is futile and if you are the least bit concerned your concerns will be quashed with me being killed. Thus your time is much better spent looking at other people and sheeping my scum reads
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
October 06 2014 23:03 GMT
#327
100% legitimate
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
October 06 2014 23:40 GMT
#346
when are you going to do anything obi?
Holyflare
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October 07 2014 00:43 GMT
#371
the princess bride
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October 07 2014 00:43 GMT
#372
alternatively 45 degrees
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October 07 2014 02:55 GMT
#383
##vote obiwanshinobi


reasons: read filter
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October 07 2014 02:58 GMT
#387
reason: your filter
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October 07 2014 03:06 GMT
#392
open ended questions, telling people what is scummy and what is not scummy, no answers, no pushing, no anything really at all and then complains nobody is pushing the thread forward
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October 07 2014 03:43 GMT
#407
i don't think he was insistent at all he asked me why i didn't vote oats despite saying i did and that was it
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October 07 2014 04:10 GMT
#415
On October 07 2014 12:59 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 07 2014 12:43 Holyflare wrote:
i don't think he was insistent at all he asked me why i didn't vote oats despite saying i did and that was it


So where's the follow up on your vote? Where's your interest in figuring me out/lynching mafia?

You put your vote on me and started talking about random shit, even after two other people called you on your shitvote which you have done nothing to fix. Care to explain?


i don't need to follow up when what i can already see is right there in your filter
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October 07 2014 04:23 GMT
#419
it's not a shit fight, what he's done has been useless and his "push" isn't even a real push and leads to no conclusions and is in fact based on the false premise that damd doesn't think his push will gather information, he's complaining about what is happening in the thread (even though a large amount of players are actually in the EU timezone) but then has commented on absolutely nothing that has happened in the game so far and has only joined in to tell people whether something is scummy or not, like the entire first half of his filter is him telling people bh does this as both alignments which is a rehash of everything everyone already said and is redundant "contribution"

not only that but when i called him out on it he acted like there was nothing he COULD do because all his questions are unanswered yet he has not commented on anything that has happened previously apart from this bh thing
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October 07 2014 04:27 GMT
#421
would you like me to paint a pretty picture and requote your entire filter for everyone to make it more obvious?
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October 07 2014 04:31 GMT
#423
I'm not being "even more annoying", nobody has debunked anything I have said here at all. Not only is it unjustified to say nothing is happening in the thread while pushing no other active topics for people to talk about, something mafia loves to do by the way. It's also really bad that in this 22 page thread that you say is so inactive you've neglected to mention anything about the things that have happened in 22 pages bar this BH argument which what you're posting about doesn't even make sense (in regards to damd). The rest of your filter is literally repeatedly telling someone something isn't scummy and then saying it again and again and again. Yet, somehow, this is totally legitimate right?

No.
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October 07 2014 04:40 GMT
#428
On October 07 2014 13:37 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
Okay, so what about my BH argument doesn't make sense? I pointed out why pushing BH because he was pushing an RNG lynch is a useless waste of time since it's factually incorrect to attribute it as a scum characteristic; if BH has an example of him doing this as town, it can't be used to sell a scumtell on him since it's not an inherently scum trait. That's what makes it stupid, and why I want to steer people away from that line of thinking to focus on more important information, IE almost anything else.

So what's inherently scummy about pushing conversation away from something provably pointless? Oh right, nothing. Because you've fixated on one aspect of my filter and have completely failed to try to see any potential town motivation as to what I'm doing.

Hopeless and I have both called you on your shitvote and you've ignored both of us. Go back and read it unless you feel like ignoring more facts in favor of pushing nonsense.


You are trying to steer people away but post nothing of relevance to steer them in any direction whatsoever. THEN you complain that nobody is doing anything. I never even hinted that your BH argument didn't make sense. All you're doing is saying it's alignment null which is what i said in 1 word 7 pages ago "null". You are focused on absolutely nothing else in this game BUT steering people into nothingness and also picking up on some silly point about damd which doesn't make sense because he clearly stated he thought the self vote was an interesting reaction and that's the end of that
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October 07 2014 04:41 GMT
#429
I'd love for you to be town and prove me wrong by actually pushing something that happened in the game previously that you said you read but for now you haven't done that.
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October 07 2014 04:44 GMT
#431
well apparently already someone agrees with me, that's a damn shame
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October 07 2014 05:07 GMT
#436
Why do I care if people think my vote is stupid if it's literally what I can see in your filter with my own eyes? The fact they call it stupid just means that they are wrong or also mafia.
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October 07 2014 05:13 GMT
#443
I don't think you've really read anything
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October 07 2014 05:20 GMT
#456
OO is probably the best lynch today purely because he can't be fucked to play as mafia from what he said when we were mafia together, not to mention that his reads were so back to front

Holyflare
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October 07 2014 05:21 GMT
#457
On October 07 2014 14:18 Alakaslam wrote:
So I think ObiWanShinobi stuff is null.

He could just, you know, not know who is scum yet

And yet want to do something


But not cool with tossin Chupazi around. But yeah scum do what he is doing too.

I think OO may just simply be the lynch but not to stop finding a better target; why shouldn't I be up for lynch hey?


but he read through the entire thread and literally has no opinions
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October 07 2014 05:27 GMT
#459
On October 07 2014 08:15 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
Just got off work, rereading.



straight into how bh does this as every alignment bs, no conclusions from reading, no reads, nothing whatsoever but telling people that what bh is doing is null

you have no actual opinions on ANYTHING that happened pre-bh rng
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October 07 2014 05:28 GMT
#462
.......................
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October 07 2014 05:32 GMT
#464
so you're telling me you come into the thread and can't be fucked to read any of the game whatsoever and then you start ranting at people and telling them how BH thing is null so that effectively leaves you with nothing and you didn't think it would be apt to comment on anything previous to the giant alignment null enigma that is BH!?!?!?

Only then to complain that nothing is happening and people are lazy only to be the one that hasn't read anything at all so even if we said something you wouldn't know what the fuck we are talking about?????
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October 07 2014 05:34 GMT
#467
uhhhh something to lian when you wake up, why did you go from town reading bh to thinking his rng thing was actually really scummy?
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October 07 2014 05:39 GMT
#472
On October 07 2014 14:36 Alakaslam wrote:
Both of you can't even remember what you what

Speak of how scummy I am! I shalt defense myself by becoming a massive dragon


you aren't really scummy so no
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October 07 2014 05:41 GMT
#474
On October 07 2014 14:35 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 07 2014 14:32 Holyflare wrote:
so you're telling me you come into the thread and can't be fucked to read any of the game whatsoever and then you start ranting at people and telling them how BH thing is null so that effectively leaves you with nothing and you didn't think it would be apt to comment on anything previous to the giant alignment null enigma that is BH!?!?!?

Only then to complain that nothing is happening and people are lazy only to be the one that hasn't read anything at all so even if we said something you wouldn't know what the fuck we are talking about?????


I was focusing on the people trying to get reads off of something you couldn't get reads off of, IE BH's rng lynch nonsense.

Seriously I've told you like 50 times get it through your head pls.


you've just repeatedly shut down anyone that is scum reading bh and then picked up on damd who isn't even talking about bh, he's talking about OO and actually makes sense in some regards so how can you possibly be getting reads when instead you are just telling them they are wrong and repeating yourself?
Holyflare
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October 07 2014 05:42 GMT
#476
re-read the game and come back
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October 07 2014 05:42 GMT
#477
sorry read*
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October 07 2014 05:43 GMT
#478
btw if storr doesn't post any cases or w/e he promised he's pretty scummy (he's already quite scummy imo)
Holyflare
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October 07 2014 05:45 GMT
#481
I do need to follow up if you're trying to twist things into a false reality so that people don't believe it. I know how lazy people are at reading filters.
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October 07 2014 05:48 GMT
#484
On October 07 2014 14:45 Alakaslam wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 07 2014 14:39 Holyflare wrote:
On October 07 2014 14:36 Alakaslam wrote:
Both of you can't even remember what you what

Speak of how scummy I am! I shalt defense myself by becoming a massive dragon


you aren't really scummy so no

Whaaaaaaaaaat?!

Why not? Speak unto me who hath done NOTHING

nothing but spray piss in the air
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you had knowledge of individual posts (when you were talking to me about oats town reading batsnacks), you showed some analyticalish posts in regards to the thread when the oats thing was happening and you read obi's filter when i said that was the reason for voting him

it's not entirely solid reasons to town read you and you're more nullish but it makes you not scummy at least
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October 07 2014 05:49 GMT
#485
On October 07 2014 14:47 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 07 2014 14:45 Holyflare wrote:
I do need to follow up if you're trying to twist things into a false reality so that people don't believe it. I know how lazy people are at reading filters.


Except this is provably untrue because Hopeless and I were on the same page.

Unless, of course, you think we're both mafia which you haven't really addressed at all.


slam posts exactly what I said before I even elaborated on it so knows exactly what I mean, grack has also agreed with the sentiment, hopeless' post about me being silly didn't even make any sense and you are the person being scum read
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October 07 2014 05:50 GMT
#487
..?
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October 07 2014 05:53 GMT
#489
On October 07 2014 14:50 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 07 2014 14:49 Holyflare wrote:
On October 07 2014 14:47 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
On October 07 2014 14:45 Holyflare wrote:
I do need to follow up if you're trying to twist things into a false reality so that people don't believe it. I know how lazy people are at reading filters.


Except this is provably untrue because Hopeless and I were on the same page.

Unless, of course, you think we're both mafia which you haven't really addressed at all.


slam posts exactly what I said before I even elaborated on it so knows exactly what I mean, grack has also agreed with the sentiment, hopeless' post about me being silly didn't even make any sense and you are the person being scum read


This goes both ways.

Like we're arguing in circles about the exact same stuff the other person is arguing about. It's really dumb.


this quite literally does not go both ways because hopeless' post LITERALLY made no sense, he quoted everything that makes you scummy and then said wtf even if it did make sense i don't even care because why does what he say make anything better? I had a suspicion based on your filter and so i purposefully left my reason for scum reading you a "read your filter" to make sure people were on the same page. Lo and behold they were.
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October 07 2014 05:59 GMT
#493
how about you show me this hopeless/you interaction and how it makes you town in any way shape or form compared to what 3 people have agreed upon about how your filter is absent of anything useful
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October 07 2014 12:42 GMT
#575
This guy defending obi, wtf. You say i attacked him early (24 hours after the game had started) and didn't give any reasons to vote him (i did multiple times) but then you don't even mention how he has no actual reads whatsoever or how he lied about reading gracks filter or how he literally has no real reads other than town reads based on almost nothing. His defence on why he was so town was based on his interaction with hopeless that doesn't make sense as any defence and he just whined all the time (something he has done as scum).

Lians scum team is actually not bad apart from not having oo in it
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October 07 2014 13:16 GMT
#577
Obi had 24 hours of game time to read the thread, make conclusions and post reads. I can get that he is busy but the first thing he said on his return was that he was reading the thread. After about half an hour of apparently not reading the thread he returns and only repeatedly told people that what bh was doing wasn't scummy hence why I called him out on not doing anything useful because it was already stated multiple times that what BH was doing is in fact null. So not only does he skirt by with no real reads he appears to contribute in lieu of actually participating by rehashing the same thing over and over again.

Holyflare
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October 07 2014 13:22 GMT
#578
On October 07 2014 14:20 Holyflare wrote:
OO is probably the best lynch today purely because he can't be fucked to play as mafia from what he said when we were mafia together, not to mention that his reads were so back to front



this is also still relevant
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October 07 2014 15:34 GMT
#598
On October 07 2014 22:48 Hopeless1der wrote:
HF can you confirm/quote OO saying he doesnt care to play scum, I cant find it.


totally misremembered what he said but I looked it up and it was that he has no idea what to do as scum and that the one time he played it he just bussed dp and did nothing else all game, I mixed it up with his general inactivity that game and voila! He's still a very good lynch though.
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October 07 2014 15:36 GMT
#599
Also, I rescind my townread on Grack. Not reading the thread =/= alignment indicative, but he pushes me based on the fact that I didn't know whether or not he called BH town. It's an incredibly superficial push and I don't like it.


This isn't true by the way, grack is pushing you because you answered hopeless about him and kelsier and you said that you think their both townyish but then later admitted that you hadn't read gracks filter at all
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October 07 2014 15:38 GMT
#600
On October 07 2014 09:04 batsnacks wrote:
ebwop I messed up a sentence and it looks weird to me. This:
Show nested quote +
On October 07 2014 08:53 batsnacks wrote:
Maybe some townies are worse than robots... point them out... that would be way more helpful.

Should be maybe some PEOPLE are worse than robots...


it would be funny if this was an actual slip btw
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October 07 2014 15:45 GMT
#602
I actually like lian and I have no idea why nobody else does.
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October 07 2014 15:47 GMT
#603
Just to flesh it out in case it wasn't obvious, I do not like your case at all. I see his reads progressing pretty naturally from disliking people on the rng wagon because it's an easy place for scum to hide and then when they switch off and talk more he moves them to null/towny.
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October 07 2014 15:55 GMT
#608
It's so much more than what you're saying that's so wrong
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October 07 2014 15:56 GMT
#609
On October 08 2014 00:49 StorrZerg wrote:
he isn't doing anything. And his actions are scummy. He responds to a direct question on who his scum are, and he makes a list post, with his scum being 2 "inactive players" and someone "who asks questions" yet doesn't "give information"

yeah thats super town pro thing to do MY BAD


it's not a list post it's a reasoned out post about what his reads are in a direct response to someone asking him he he thought was mafia, it follows what I see as a train of thought and a process of elimination which is pretty towny imo
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October 07 2014 16:05 GMT
#611
apart from those 3 to 4 peoples
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October 07 2014 16:13 GMT
#614
his scum reads would include oo but he's hesitant to add him there and unless you come up with better ideas of who are mafia then you can't really criticise his mafia suspects
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October 07 2014 16:15 GMT
#615
his original scum reads were based on good reasons, people siding on the rng wagon and then doing nothing which he's subsequently updated and poe'd people down to those 3/4
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October 07 2014 16:18 GMT
#617
i really don't care i'm not going to lynch him
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October 07 2014 16:20 GMT
#619
I already have told you
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October 07 2014 16:20 GMT
#620
On October 08 2014 00:56 Holyflare wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 08 2014 00:49 StorrZerg wrote:
he isn't doing anything. And his actions are scummy. He responds to a direct question on who his scum are, and he makes a list post, with his scum being 2 "inactive players" and someone "who asks questions" yet doesn't "give information"

yeah thats super town pro thing to do MY BAD


it's not a list post it's a reasoned out post about what his reads are in a direct response to someone asking him he he thought was mafia, it follows what I see as a train of thought and a process of elimination which is pretty towny imo

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October 07 2014 16:24 GMT
#623
On October 08 2014 01:23 Hopeless1der wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 08 2014 00:34 Holyflare wrote:
On October 07 2014 22:48 Hopeless1der wrote:
HF can you confirm/quote OO saying he doesnt care to play scum, I cant find it.


totally misremembered what he said but I looked it up and it was that he has no idea what to do as scum and that the one time he played it he just bussed dp and did nothing else all game, I mixed it up with his general inactivity that game and voila! He's still a very good lynch though.

u srs..

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On October 08 2014 01:15 Holyflare wrote:
his original scum reads were based on good reasons, people siding on the rng wagon and then doing nothing which he's subsequently updated and poe'd people down to those 3/4


So he told people why they were scummy, they stopped doing the things that made them scum so now they are not scum. That..is way too straightforward.


so sue me, it's my read and i'm sticking to it
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October 07 2014 16:25 GMT
#625
he's stuck to his bh scum read like glue and it looks like overnight that he processed what everyone was saying and has reevaluated, how else do you propose he finds scum other than updating his reads based on what people do???
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October 07 2014 16:26 GMT
#627
i literally do not care what you say i am not lynching him today over OO
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October 07 2014 16:32 GMT
#630
On October 08 2014 01:26 Hopeless1der wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 08 2014 01:24 Holyflare wrote:
On October 08 2014 01:23 Hopeless1der wrote:
On October 08 2014 00:34 Holyflare wrote:
On October 07 2014 22:48 Hopeless1der wrote:
HF can you confirm/quote OO saying he doesnt care to play scum, I cant find it.


totally misremembered what he said but I looked it up and it was that he has no idea what to do as scum and that the one time he played it he just bussed dp and did nothing else all game, I mixed it up with his general inactivity that game and voila! He's still a very good lynch though.

u srs..

On October 08 2014 01:15 Holyflare wrote:
his original scum reads were based on good reasons, people siding on the rng wagon and then doing nothing which he's subsequently updated and poe'd people down to those 3/4


So he told people why they were scummy, they stopped doing the things that made them scum so now they are not scum. That..is way too straightforward.


so sue me, it's my read and i'm sticking to it

Seriously, how trivial are lian's reads? He runs a check for

If (Vote RNG candidate), Scum
Else, Town

That's an updated read? Are you fucking shitting me HF?


He came up with the idea that being on an rng wagon would be a very convenient place to hide because then people are just following a rng post and they don't give any information, that IS scummy and is the correct thing to point out. Then, when people who he is scum reading start to interact more and flesh out things he drops that scum read because it goes against what he was originally saying. He continues to scum read BH because he hasn't played with BH and what BH does is terrible=scummy, hearing a million people say it is in fact null moved him to seriously reconsider his stance on BH from scummy to null. His read on oats was before most people even said anything about oats and gave oats room to express more things and in fact showed better reading comprehension than me/batsnacks etc etc. The only weird thing is the OO thing and I'd much rather he explained himself out fully on this instead because I envisage that another skydragon event will occur.

Just because you disagree with his thought process does not mean that it is quite evidently there.
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October 07 2014 16:32 GMT
#631
On October 08 2014 01:28 Hopeless1der wrote:
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On October 08 2014 01:26 Holyflare wrote:
i literally do not care what you say i am not lynching him today over OO

OO is a lurker lynch and an RNG lynch. Where the hell is batsnacks..fuck it
Show nested quote +
On October 06 2014 22:53 Holyflare wrote:
also someone in this game needs to stop me going off on some policy tangent instead of chasing the people i'm actually scum reading, I nominate batsnacks to fulfill this job!






he doesn't know how to play mafia, he knows how to play town, it's not particularly rng
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October 07 2014 16:36 GMT
#635
yes ok hopeless w/e you say continue lynching the guy
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October 07 2014 16:38 GMT
#637
On October 08 2014 01:37 Hopeless1der wrote:
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On October 08 2014 01:35 Blazinghand wrote:
I'd like everyone to bear in mind that I've presented a reason to lynch OO that is imo valid entirely independent of the fact that I RNGed him. Yes, I did RNG him so I was going to write a case on him anyways, but bear in mind that that doesn't change the facts, and the facts are: OO isn't playing this game.

yeah i'll probably end up here anyways

##Vote: ObviousOne

On October 08 2014 01:28 Hopeless1der wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 08 2014 01:26 Holyflare wrote:
i literally do not care what you say i am not lynching him today over OO

OO is a lurker lynch and an RNG lynch. Where the hell is batsnacks..fuck it
Show nested quote +
On October 06 2014 22:53 Holyflare wrote:
also someone in this game needs to stop me going off on some policy tangent instead of chasing the people i'm actually scum reading, I nominate batsnacks to fulfill this job!






...?
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October 07 2014 16:42 GMT
#642
On October 08 2014 01:40 KelsierSC wrote:
@bh i don't think anyone is seriously considering oo for the lynch because of the rng but because of his lurkiness and bad posts.

my main thing about lian is that he used this as his reason to lynch stor/dam over oo which just felt off to me.

@hf you seem to be defending lian for the same reasons you attacked obi. Lian hasn't really given concrete reads just gave everyone a null/weird and then said he would lynch inactives.
what makes lian different to obi ?


lian has pushed things as scummy and made reads that make sense from someone that hasn't played with bh before and has posted thoughts on pretty much everything that has happened in the game whereas obi said he was reading, posted no thoughts about anything and then just tried to stop the bh scum reading nonsense while commenting on nothing relevant
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October 07 2014 17:42 GMT
#656
i have to agree that it's a terrible reason
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#657
and i'm the one defending him
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October 07 2014 18:19 GMT
#668
I don't want to draw associative tells between unflipped players, but basically I don't find doubting RNG to be inherently unreasonable. Trying to throw lots of doubt on it, then saying that "rng is a method for scum to be using", seems to be something a new player could reasonably believe. If OO flips mafia scum, I'll be much more suspicious of lian.


this is where i am at
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October 07 2014 19:07 GMT
#678
On October 08 2014 04:05 batsnacks wrote:
HF is accurate because Liam is town

If Liam is scum HF is not accurate


im not sure how this makes sense either
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October 07 2014 22:42 GMT
#795
On October 08 2014 07:40 Grackaroni wrote:
OO lynch also makes me uncomfortable. I've never seen this much support for lynching an inactive before and there's not even meta reasons for him being scum.

Obi never answered my question and nobody has commented on this at all.
Show nested quote +
On October 07 2014 15:03 Grackaroni wrote:
On October 07 2014 12:47 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
On October 07 2014 12:39 Hopeless1der wrote:
okay...how do you feel about grack* and/or kelsier?

Damdred you're thoughts on them as well?

*I know i've made no mention of him yet.


I don't feel particularly confident reading either of those players right now. I'm looking, and they look kind of town I guess...Maybe.

I have no solid wisdom to impart here, lool.


On October 07 2014 14:12 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
On October 07 2014 14:10 Grackaroni wrote:
lol like half my filter is talking about BH being town. I feel pretty confident that you can get a solid read on him based on his enthusiasm to contribute and I've seen a good number of BH games.

I like Obiwan for a vote.
##Unvote: OO
##Vote: Obiwan


You might. I don't.

And I didn't even read your filter. I don't know what you're trying to do here.

uhhhh I went back to the Hopeless interaction you keep mentioning and its raising further questions.

I think this is easily the scummiest thing in the thread.


he did answer you by talking to me instead and brushed it off like you were voting him for no reason
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October 07 2014 23:17 GMT
#823
This really isn't helpful for other people because it could just be no mafia is joining because HF/I are mafia and we were trying to find a mislynch but I just like to look at games in this way.


don't ruin it man
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October 07 2014 23:44 GMT
#838
On October 08 2014 08:44 StorrZerg wrote:
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On October 08 2014 08:42 Grackaroni wrote:
On October 08 2014 08:37 StorrZerg wrote:
On October 08 2014 08:34 Grackaroni wrote:
Yeah Storr I reread your case I'm not following the difference between your X and my Y. You're saying he's scum because he's scum reading all of the inactives. The reason he doesn't want to scum read OO is because he's suspicious of the people pushing RNG because his logic tells him that supporting RNG is scummy. For Lian pushing RNG is not just some policy BH likes to do it's something BH is doing this game to avoid contributing analysis and that Slam/I jumped on to for the same reason. In his mind that makes OO less scummy I guess.


the point is he isn't actually calling anyone scum...........................

He's trying to solve the game though. He goes through the thread and picks out the things that he finds alignment indicative and has come up with a bunch of town reads. He suspects the people who haven't been posting because he hasn't found reasons for them to be town. You may not like the way he's playing the game but it doesn't make him scum.


so tell me why you he voted OO.


he's already said why
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#853
i just want to lynch someone
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#854
[image loading]
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#856
not entirely feeling it but at the same time i am but i also want to lynch oo but at the same time dont but at the same time do
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#860
MWAHAHAHAHA
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#861
you actually have to read to find that out
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#877
doesn't mention anything about palmar, doesn't say anything about the people voting him even though he thinks they were mafia before, wants to lynch palmar

wut
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#884
[image loading]
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#890
http://www.twitch.tv/holyflare

GRUDGE MATCH OF THE CENTURY
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#894
obi with the throwaway scrub vote, prob mafia
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#902
I actually want to cutabitch obi purely because his vote is in not only a useless spot lynching a towny but because he has no relevant information towards this OO wagon whatsoever and even now his target is not getting lynched he has said absolutely nothing towards pushing me whatsoever, he has returned at deadline to further say nothing despite a lot of pages happening since his last post, obi is most likely mafia.
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#904
but if things work out the way you think they will then you'll want to lynch lian tomorrow didn't you say...?
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#908
On October 08 2014 12:52 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 08 2014 12:45 Holyflare wrote:
I actually want to cutabitch obi purely because his vote is in not only a useless spot lynching a towny but because he has no relevant information towards this OO wagon whatsoever and even now his target is not getting lynched he has said absolutely nothing towards pushing me whatsoever, he has returned at deadline to further say nothing despite a lot of pages happening since his last post, obi is most likely mafia.


The bottom line is that OO is a policy lynch, plain and simple. Me not contributing towards a policy lynch doesn't make me mafia.

Literally the dumbest.


no
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#920
shooting obi tonight
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#926
i've got a gun, obi's only target is a gunner. obi is getting shot
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#929
that's not really a dare is it
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#932
it must suck that the only person you were pushing was in fact someone that could shoot you and now i'm proven town because oo was my way preferred lynch over anyone else and also will be more confirmed when you die

unlucky, you got nothing left
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#935
so who are you scum reading now?
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#937
we just lynched mafia and you're feeling bad............ hahhahaha
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#943
i wouldn't actually mind that for a laugh
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#944
this could be bh's dream rng game
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#949
Yeh... Ok slam
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#966
On October 08 2014 17:17 Palmar wrote:
HF and Obi are the remaining mafia.


Probably the worst thing I've read in the thread.
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#973
Yes storr if you really think i called it bad because of that reason then you are silly
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#985
Obi you still haven't updated your reads. You only have a town as your main read.
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#987
Yes well i can prove my alignment pretty easily. I've literally told you this already.
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#989
Then live in your ignorant world and get an actual read that isn't a person that can confirm themselves with actions
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#993
No I'm pretty sure oo would tell people to bus him
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#1021
btw bh is also mafia
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#1023
btw obi is most likely not mafia it's just fun shooting him anyway
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#1031
i was lying quite obviously
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#1042
and if that was a lie just think how stupid palmars was!
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#1054
Obvious One (8): Blazinghand, Alakaslam, Hopeless1der, Holyflare, Oatsmaster, liancourt, KelsierSC, Damdred


highly likely there is 1 mafia in this group of people, if i remove my town reads it becomes

Obvious One (8): Alakaslam, Oatsmaster, liancourt, KelsierSC, Damdred

could probably remove kelsier maybe, which leaves

Obvious One (8): Alakaslam, Oatsmaster, liancourt, Damdred


super lazy analysis will occur at some point on these 4
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#1060
i don't really remember, something about effort
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#1061
i should probably add him back to that list actually, reading his filter was devoid of any real content
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#1072
why aren't you focusing on people off the oo wagon if those are the people you thought would be mafia obi...???
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#1077
On October 09 2014 02:57 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 09 2014 02:54 Holyflare wrote:
why aren't you focusing on people off the oo wagon if those are the people you thought would be mafia obi...???


I am. I just talked to Kelsier about this.

I have several people I'm discussing right now and I don't need more people jumping down my throat about stupid stuff.


you said that you have no information on them which isn't really true because you already wanted to lynch grack for something else and then you jumped straight to a bh conspiracy instead of picking out which players were most likely scum out of your list of people off the wagon
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October 08 2014 18:00 GMT
#1078
palmar is probably a 3rd party btw
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#1081
2 of your scum reads are then on the OO wagon so really what you said earlier was a crock of shit
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#1084
lian is an excellent cop check btw
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#1087
On October 09 2014 03:07 Damdred wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 09 2014 02:56 Grackaroni wrote:
On October 09 2014 02:49 Damdred wrote:
BH seems interested, and is actually doing things and pushing his lynch today. Normally when hes scum in almost every scum game i've seen or read, he makes excuses complains and only posts during the time hes not "busy". here he is the opposite he has been in the thread, has argued not complained and not made excuses for his absence plus he did lynch scum oo day one and put rng on him even before he made his entrance into the thread.

You know BH doesn't choose who gets RNGed. That's kind of the whole point of RNG.


Probably that point wasn't clear since I didn't talk much about it. I know that he doesn't choose who to rng, but as scum it would be safer for him to change who gets rng'd instead of someone who is their scum partner the rest of the meta case is the same i just shouldn't of put in that one part.


he'd look scummy if he changed it because it's the same as he always does
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#1093
On October 09 2014 03:11 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 09 2014 03:06 Holyflare wrote:
lian is an excellent cop check btw


Why do you think this?


i think it's pretty obvious if you were reading mine or bh's (your scum reads filters), it's because of how he handled the OO scum read and didn't vote him on principle but then gave other scum suspects anyway but then voted him right at the end when it didn't really matter anyway
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#1114
I wasn't lying when i said i think you're actually town btw obi
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#1123
On October 09 2014 04:19 StorrZerg wrote:
@hf what made you change your mind about lian?


Magic
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#1128
much quiet
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#1133
im already shooting hopeless so its a game changer
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#1134
im not really but i hope the real vig is
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#1147
snacksbat confirmed town for not stopping my policy/mafia lynch on oo
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#1151
going to bed, i shot obi, gg
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#1168
actually fuck it, the rber died, I AM actually the vigilante and all my reads have been hidden

i know you may hate me but I'm ACTUALLY shooting BH, I will very likely die tonight so tomorrow hopefully the cop checks like lian or hopeless (probably hopeless best)
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#1191
bh so salty
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#1193
no im actually shooting bh
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#1195
ive posted it already
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On October 09 2014 03:15 Holyflare wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 09 2014 03:11 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
On October 09 2014 03:06 Holyflare wrote:
lian is an excellent cop check btw


Why do you think this?


i think it's pretty obvious if you were reading mine or bh's (your scum reads filters), it's because of how he handled the OO scum read and didn't vote him on principle but then gave other scum suspects anyway but then voted him right at the end when it didn't really matter anyway

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#1200
On October 08 2014 09:28 Holyflare wrote:
[image loading]


this is quite obviously proof im the vigi btw
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#1202
maybe you should read the op
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#1205
my last minute reads are wait for the cop check on lian, if there isn't one you should probably lynch hopeless, I thought he put in a lot of effort with a big post at some point but re-reading it it was commenting on useless crap

he also town read people (obi) and attacked me instead when i started bringing up cases on obi, he apparently "didn't read him" which makes it even worse and the rest of his filter is pretty generic commenting on nothingness with no conclusions, he also did a really really flip floppy switch to OO after saying he was just a policy etc etc

I did like lian for a towny but his post about not wanting to lynch OO now looks really scummy that OO has flipped mafia, he really would be a great cop check :/

i mean like... there's so many peripheral people it's hard to choose between them... palmar looks really 3pish to me, he has the semi look of towny palmar but none of the gusto that i'd usually attribute to him when he starts giving reads

bh is going to get shot so yeh there's that too
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#1206
pretty confident bh will flip mafia though at least there's no rber left for them
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#1209
On October 09 2014 12:44 Damdred wrote:
Why shoot bh over hopeless or loan though?


because he's definitely mafia
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#1210
there's literally nothing that will make me change this shot
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#1211
if he doesn't die mafia have 2 rb'ers
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#1214
literally 12 minutes to lynch and all he was doing was trying to throw as much shit at me as possible and his only other read is obi who i think is pretty/very likely to be town
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#1216
why will i be dead? any sane medic would be on me
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#1220
i've put mafia in an awkward position, they can't kill me because the medic will save me and then i get my other shot off 100% tomorrow night because i can't die to 1kp tonight (this is pretty op btw geript) so they have to shoot someone peripheral to blue snipe
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#1223
On October 09 2014 12:53 Blazinghand wrote:
HF I'm pretty sure you never scumread me, or gave me like a legit reason why you thought I was scum. I wish there was a way you were scum, but there isn't, assuming you're really shooting me.

medic, don't save HF. He'll probably use his second bullet like he used his first. horribly.


no i didn't ever put my read on you in the thread because i knew nobody would believe me and i can just shoot you anyway
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#1225
On October 09 2014 12:54 Blazinghand wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 09 2014 12:54 Holyflare wrote:
i've put mafia in an awkward position, they can't kill me because the medic will save me and then i get my other shot off 100% tomorrow night because i can't die to 1kp tonight (this is pretty op btw geript) so they have to shoot someone peripheral to blue snipe


only OP if vigi shoots at scum, HF.


if you're town it's just the same because then they still shoot someone peripheral or waste a kp stacking with me to frame me which will most definitely fail
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#1227
there's nothing you can do but get your reads out in the thread if you're town, but you aren't going to do that are you
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#1228
3 minutes chop chop
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#1230
i dont really care bh it's not going to change my shot flaming me is it?
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#1232
i take solace in the fact that you wasted your last few hours arguing with me instead of putting the town in a better place
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#1236
pew pew i cut a bitch



bh the mafia godfather has been killed!
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#1241
HAH im not a fucking vig im saving top town bh for a night :D:D:D:D:D
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#1242
and now oats the ? has been killed! win win win
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#1245
i just saved your life buddy
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#1249
but they won't though so no
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#1251
i have 72 more hours
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#1256
im waiting for the red check on hopeless
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#1259
On October 09 2014 13:06 Alakaslam wrote:
...

Well


where's the check bro
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#1262
On October 09 2014 13:07 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 09 2014 13:05 Holyflare wrote:
im waiting for the red check on hopeless


I thought you were waiting for a red check on lian.

Are you even going to lynch anyone without checks.


oh or that yeh
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#1263
not entirely confident in that being red though
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#1266
where is the cop checcccccck
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#1269
On October 09 2014 13:12 Grackaroni wrote:
lol ok what the hell I'm just going to claim. I was the one who shot Oats. I was deciding between Oats/Hopeless at the end of the day and I decided that I'd have an easier time reading Hopeless. I'm really salty because I was wrong twice in a row now on Oats.

Not sure what happened to the scum shot it probably hit HF


oh dude... that was a bad shot T_T
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#1270
gj medic though!
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#1274
On October 09 2014 13:13 Grackaroni wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 09 2014 13:12 Holyflare wrote:
On October 09 2014 13:12 Grackaroni wrote:
lol ok what the hell I'm just going to claim. I was the one who shot Oats. I was deciding between Oats/Hopeless at the end of the day and I decided that I'd have an easier time reading Hopeless. I'm really salty because I was wrong twice in a row now on Oats.

Not sure what happened to the scum shot it probably hit HF


oh dude... that was a bad shot T_T

His reaction at the start of the game was really weird though and he kept pushing newer players so I thought it was his scum play


tis trueee
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#1275
dont think we have a cop tbh then
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#1277
On October 09 2014 13:13 Blazinghand wrote:
oh, HF isn't the medic? nvm

##unvote OWS
##vote HF


if you think i didn't just soak up a mafia night kill then you are retarded
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#1280
?
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#1282
##vote hopeless1der
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#1284
yes
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#1288
On October 09 2014 13:21 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
The shenanniest of shenannigans.

Seriously though, let me take the wheel. I got this shit.

##vote hopeless1der


you can lead town now, i'm going away for a few days anyway
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#1290
pretty sure you're joining my wagon
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#1293
totally bought this btw

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Marvel-Hulk-Adult-Fleece-Robe/351119480582?rt=nc

sexy
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#1298
you're only flying under the radar if you are mafia and if you're claiming mafia that would be cool
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#1299
actually think you've probably claimed mafia like 7 times already though i just can't be bothered to read your posts properly
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#1302
there is no reason to fly under the radar in friendly air space unless you are trying to hide something or are bad
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#1305
On October 09 2014 13:43 Alakaslam wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 09 2014 13:41 Holyflare wrote:
there is no reason to fly under the radar in friendly air space unless you are trying to hide something or are bad

Absolutely true!

Now, if I have something to hide, am not particularly bad, but am still not scum, what could I be?


ahhh you claiming 3p
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#1306
and if it's not particularly bad it must be the martyr
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#1307
should prob martyr me tomorrow for proof and to change to town wincon or w/e
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#1308
then medic can save grack
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#1322
What if i told you my plan was actually multi layered and i have a red check on hopeless?
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#1327
Mostly the red check
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#1329
#rekt
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#1333
I faked vigi because not only would i be healed to survive the night but i could protect another towny by threatening to shoot them (bh). No mafia kills occured so there's all the proof you need that it worked and I'm town.
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#1335
But why would you ignore the copvig?
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#1337
Lian why you not voting for hopeless?
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#1340
Because I'm a claimed blue with a confirmable power, any medic in their right mind would save me. The day post shows only oatsmaster died and grackaroni claimed vigilante that shot oats.
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#1342
Is there anything to not agree with??
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#1343
I may be inclined to change my red check to yoh
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#1344
You*
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#1346
What kind of question is that???
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#1348
I was kidding. Just vote hopeless.
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#1349
There is quite literally no greater wagon than this one on scum hopeless.
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#1351
Who cares who checked what? Hopeless is mafia. Lynch him.
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#1352
Like regardless of if i have a check on him or don't (who knows if i do) his filter is scummy.
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#1354
Thank you for revealing yourself.
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#1356
So let's assume you're wrong on obi (you probably are), there's 2 pretty much confirmed town on the wagon. Why have you jumped to the massive conclusion that not only did someone check hopeless who wasn't even a big scum read/likely check but that he's also framed instead of lian (if hes town) and why haven't you instead thought that your read on obi might be wrong instead?
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October 09 2014 07:50 GMT
#1368
Yeh i wonder if anyone has a red check on him
Holyflare
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October 09 2014 07:53 GMT
#1369
Lian you keep saying you doubt things but don't provide any analysis on what happened with the mafia night kill and where it went. Who were they shooting and why didn't they die?
Holyflare
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October 09 2014 08:10 GMT
#1372
On October 09 2014 17:10 liancourt wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 09 2014 16:53 Holyflare wrote:
Lian you keep saying you doubt things but don't provide any analysis on what happened with the mafia night kill and where it went. Who were they shooting and why didn't they die?


that would mean i would believe grack is vig

u are cop

and that there is a doctor.

I believe none of it and just see mafia killing oats.


If you just see mafia killing oats then you should be voting grack for fake claiming vigilante
Holyflare
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October 09 2014 08:11 GMT
#1373
I am also not the cop
Holyflare
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October 09 2014 08:12 GMT
#1374
I have faith damd will help us solve the game
Holyflare
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October 09 2014 08:34 GMT
#1376
On October 09 2014 17:27 liancourt wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 09 2014 17:10 Holyflare wrote:
On October 09 2014 17:10 liancourt wrote:
On October 09 2014 16:53 Holyflare wrote:
Lian you keep saying you doubt things but don't provide any analysis on what happened with the mafia night kill and where it went. Who were they shooting and why didn't they die?


that would mean i would believe grack is vig

u are cop

and that there is a doctor.

I believe none of it and just see mafia killing oats.


If you just see mafia killing oats then you should be voting grack for fake claiming vigilante


i should be voting you for fake claiming vig and cop and claiming there is a medic. But i'm inclined to think this was just another one of your "ploys". Like I said, you seem to enjoy trolling.


If you think Blazinghand is town then i saved your town read by claiming vig. If you really really think oatsmaster was a likely mafia kill after doing absolutely nothing the entire game I'm almost forced to believe you are mafia.
Holyflare
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October 09 2014 08:37 GMT
#1377
If you live in a world where a player that did nothing all game gets night killed over people that look towny and are pushing logical things then you literally have to be scum reading grackaroni right now. So whether you criticise my trolling or not the fact of the matter is that there is a game at hand.

If you live in my world where grackaroni is the vigilante then the mafia either stacked with him which is very very unlikely or they hit a veteran or medic save.
Holyflare
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October 09 2014 09:19 GMT
#1388
On October 09 2014 18:13 liancourt wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 09 2014 17:37 Holyflare wrote:
If you live in a world where a player that did nothing all game gets night killed over people that look towny and are pushing logical things then you literally have to be scum reading grackaroni right now. So whether you criticise my trolling or not the fact of the matter is that there is a game at hand.

If you live in my world where grackaroni is the vigilante then the mafia either stacked with him which is very very unlikely or they hit a veteran or medic save.


if you live in my world the vigi would have killed obi because of what happened at the end of day and everyone was piling on him.

So then are you calling grackaroni mafia or not??? Also i called obi town, only 1 or 2 called him mafia.
Holyflare
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October 09 2014 09:19 GMT
#1389
On October 09 2014 18:06 Palmar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 09 2014 18:03 KelsierSC wrote:
On October 09 2014 17:50 Palmar wrote:
Can anyone give me a rundown of what the hell you guys are talking about so I don't have to wade through the pile of softclaims and shit?


or just read the thread, you know...play the fucking game maybe

Nah, that sounds like way too much effort.


Sucks being 3p
Holyflare
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October 09 2014 09:36 GMT
#1392
On October 09 2014 18:24 liancourt wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 09 2014 18:19 Holyflare wrote:
On October 09 2014 18:13 liancourt wrote:
On October 09 2014 17:37 Holyflare wrote:
If you live in a world where a player that did nothing all game gets night killed over people that look towny and are pushing logical things then you literally have to be scum reading grackaroni right now. So whether you criticise my trolling or not the fact of the matter is that there is a game at hand.

If you live in my world where grackaroni is the vigilante then the mafia either stacked with him which is very very unlikely or they hit a veteran or medic save.


if you live in my world the vigi would have killed obi because of what happened at the end of day and everyone was piling on him.

So then are you calling grackaroni mafia or not??? Also i called obi town, only 1 or 2 called him mafia.


all i see is multiple people trolling to get a serious answer from someone. i'm rather inclined to think a vt would troll claim vig and see who responds to it.

I kinda find it odd you change your stance on obi so quick after you were going down his throat yesterday.


I changed my stance on him part way through day 1 but pressured him a lot more to make sure. How is that relevant? How does what grack did look anything like a fake claim at all?
Holyflare
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October 09 2014 10:05 GMT
#1395
On October 09 2014 18:54 liancourt wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 09 2014 18:36 Holyflare wrote:
On October 09 2014 18:24 liancourt wrote:
On October 09 2014 18:19 Holyflare wrote:
On October 09 2014 18:13 liancourt wrote:
On October 09 2014 17:37 Holyflare wrote:
If you live in a world where a player that did nothing all game gets night killed over people that look towny and are pushing logical things then you literally have to be scum reading grackaroni right now. So whether you criticise my trolling or not the fact of the matter is that there is a game at hand.

If you live in my world where grackaroni is the vigilante then the mafia either stacked with him which is very very unlikely or they hit a veteran or medic save.


if you live in my world the vigi would have killed obi because of what happened at the end of day and everyone was piling on him.

So then are you calling grackaroni mafia or not??? Also i called obi town, only 1 or 2 called him mafia.


all i see is multiple people trolling to get a serious answer from someone. i'm rather inclined to think a vt would troll claim vig and see who responds to it.

I kinda find it odd you change your stance on obi so quick after you were going down his throat yesterday.


I changed my stance on him part way through day 1 but pressured him a lot more to make sure. How is that relevant? How does what grack did look anything like a fake claim at all?


you know I would have half believed him if there were 2 night kills but no


Which brings us back to the question of why on earth would mafia kill oatsmaster......
Holyflare
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October 09 2014 10:10 GMT
#1396
The answer is they wouldn't
Holyflare
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October 09 2014 10:39 GMT
#1401
I have literally 0 doubt. It's extremely towny to claim when he did because it makes us avoid any confusion.
Holyflare
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October 09 2014 10:42 GMT
#1403
Shooting oats only helped town
Holyflare
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October 09 2014 11:17 GMT
#1406
On October 09 2014 19:54 liancourt wrote:
then what i don't understand is why he'd claim because he'll die by mafia hands on n2. the medic? what if mafia shot a vet?



Why would he die n2 when he could be medic saved...? Are mafia just going to guess whether there is a vet or medic and then risk shooting him anyway? I really don't think so.
Holyflare
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October 09 2014 11:30 GMT
#1407
Look this is irrelevant. Hopeless is the best lynch if you are town. If you aren't you can keep talking along these useless lines.
Holyflare
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October 09 2014 17:50 GMT
#1530
Obi y u town read me?
Holyflare
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October 09 2014 18:08 GMT
#1532
Sweet
Holyflare
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October 09 2014 19:44 GMT
#1543
Nobody listening to my "red check" or wut?
Holyflare
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October 09 2014 19:49 GMT
#1547
I think you're just going to have to accept that obi is terrible at playing town but he's still town
Holyflare
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October 09 2014 19:55 GMT
#1555
On October 10 2014 04:51 KelsierSC wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 10 2014 04:51 batsnacks wrote:
Yeah obi is town

I don't know what you're doing keyser soze


pointing out a myriad of legit reasons why someone is scum


Yes when you put them altogether it looks incredibly scummy but this guy got lynched like 9/10 times in his initial games as town so much so he remade a different account just to hide that terrible meta
Holyflare
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October 09 2014 19:59 GMT
#1558
Soz bro tis truth, you bit better now though not getting lynched
Holyflare
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October 09 2014 20:06 GMT
#1562
You should probably explain your town read on me at least
Holyflare
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October 09 2014 20:18 GMT
#1574
On October 10 2014 05:12 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 10 2014 05:06 Holyflare wrote:
You should probably explain your town read on me at least


Easy; your reads are consistent with the thread and you're putting more effort into pressuring people/gathering information instead of dropping poorly thought out meta reads a la almost every scum game you've played ever. The way you're interacting with the thread reflects a desire to understand rather than a desire to look for easy lynch targets.


Which is what i did all day yesterday when you scum read me....?
Holyflare
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October 09 2014 21:06 GMT
#1610
Do you think a mafia obi would be this annoying instead of just trying to appease you and push a mislynch on hopeless?
Holyflare
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October 09 2014 21:10 GMT
#1612
On October 10 2014 06:08 KelsierSC wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 10 2014 06:06 Holyflare wrote:
Do you think a mafia obi would be this annoying instead of just trying to appease you and push a mislynch on hopeless?


sorry I don't understand what you mean


If obi was mafia and like you are assuming, is pushing a mislynch on hopeless, why would he argue and be this annoying instead of just explaining the first time and thus getting you off him onto his mislynch?
Holyflare
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October 09 2014 21:25 GMT
#1617
We're still lynching hopeless
Holyflare
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October 09 2014 21:32 GMT
#1620
On October 10 2014 06:24 KelsierSC wrote:
Alright going to sleep again.

I think I need to reevaluate obi tomorrow when I can look with a clearer head.

Still think he is scum for now.

Lian second scum most likely.

not really happy with dam's contribution today , need to hear what slam thinks about obi/hope.



Damd has done more today than yesterday and he's pushing your scum read lian but you're not happy with him??
Holyflare
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October 09 2014 21:59 GMT
#1630
On October 10 2014 06:46 Palmar wrote:
HF can you please stop the bs and tell us yes or no on if you're actually claiming cop?


Lynch hopeless
Holyflare
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October 09 2014 22:28 GMT
#1638
On October 10 2014 07:07 Palmar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 10 2014 06:59 Holyflare wrote:
On October 10 2014 06:46 Palmar wrote:
HF can you please stop the bs and tell us yes or no on if you're actually claiming cop?


Lynch hopeless

Very helpful


[image loading]
Holyflare
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October 10 2014 06:45 GMT
#1726
On October 10 2014 11:30 Hopeless1der wrote:
i am entirely too drunk/tired to finish this right now. I stand by damdred>lian. will read kelsier storr and slam (I probably wont read slam, lets be honest here) in the morning and then try to get someone who's not me lynched. Probably damdred.


We're still 1000% lynching this guy, this is the 3rd promise of more reads into afking. Also free town read on obi.
Holyflare
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October 10 2014 06:46 GMT
#1727
Anyone not on hopeless is claiming mafia and will be shot
Holyflare
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October 10 2014 06:52 GMT
#1729
He even did some funky "never lynch" list which included really random people he NEVER talked about
Holyflare
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October 10 2014 06:53 GMT
#1730
On October 10 2014 15:51 Blazinghand wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 10 2014 15:46 Holyflare wrote:
Anyone not on hopeless is claiming mafia and will be shot


hah

There's a lot of mafia right now
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
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October 10 2014 07:05 GMT
#1732
If you want any more incentive to be on hopeless I'll just say I'm the notcop and have a notredcheck on hopeless
Holyflare
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October 10 2014 07:13 GMT
#1733
If you want yet more incentive, here is a little puppy me and my gf are dog sitting

[image loading]
Holyflare
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October 10 2014 07:28 GMT
#1734
How can you say no to a face like that? The answer is you can't so vote for hopeless.
Holyflare
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October 10 2014 07:38 GMT
#1735
Also haha at storezerg vote count
Holyflare
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October 10 2014 09:23 GMT
#1737
Where's all the euros at?
Holyflare
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October 10 2014 10:12 GMT
#1740
Who cares, you should be voting hopeless after what he just posted.
Holyflare
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October 10 2014 10:23 GMT
#1742
It's because i redcheckednotreally'd him and he knows he's going to die. It's the sway i have.
Holyflare
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October 10 2014 12:22 GMT
#1744
Because he's a twat face
Holyflare
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October 10 2014 12:26 GMT
#1745
Like anyone not lynching hopeless after reading his filter or his actions the past day and night needs to go do that and then stop giving excuses about other scum reads and join this wagon.

Think about hopeless' reaction to me in the last game where i lynched him "fuck you guys modkill hf for vote count, u bad" then look at this game where I'm his never lynch list
Holyflare
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October 10 2014 15:48 GMT
#1766
On October 11 2014 00:32 Hopeless1der wrote:
storr and kelsier town. will make case on damdred shortly.


More free unexplained town reads??
Holyflare
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October 10 2014 15:50 GMT
#1767
All you've done is stick to damd/liam being scummy and then thrown out these free town reads conveniently and you still call them scummy before even reading everyone else.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
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October 10 2014 15:54 GMT
#1769
Because you more than conveniently don't explain anything about like 90% of your reads and you have these 2 scum reads but nothing about them ever changes so reading these other people looks really odd from you when you don't say anything about why they're town over damd/lian being scum. It's really really strange that you have 2 scum reads but wpuld rather arbitrarily call other people town instead of pushing them
Holyflare
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October 10 2014 16:02 GMT
#1773
On October 11 2014 00:57 Hopeless1der wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 11 2014 00:54 Holyflare wrote:
Because you more than conveniently don't explain anything about like 90% of your reads and you have these 2 scum reads but nothing about them ever changes so reading these other people looks really odd from you when you don't say anything about why they're town over damd/lian being scum. It's really really strange that you have 2 scum reads but wpuld rather arbitrarily call other people town instead of pushing them

I'm going through the game and making certain that those two are in fact the scummiest players to me before I go about pushing a lynch on anyone. Does that not make sense? Should I just RNG a new target and push them incessantly instead of reading the game?

This post Mod 12, storr is 0


Your whole game is throwing out random town reads that don't make sense and don't line up with any thought process. What really blew it for you was calling me town so conveniently based on those points you listed. I've been saying scum is very likely to bus OO because that's what he asked to do last game he was mafia and cba to play, however as you pointed out, my reason before that was "made up" therefore to you all I've done is randomly defend your scum read, pushed a flipped town and lie about a reason so that people hop on a mafia wagon. All those things are very likely for me to do as mafia. Very very likely. Yet they are super weird for anyone to town read me on. These are pretty much your only elaborated reads in the entire game too, the rest of your never lynch list isn't explained at all. All of these town reads aren't explained. Yojr scum reads aren't explained and haven't changed.

And my red check
Holyflare
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October 10 2014 16:11 GMT
#1776
Tick tock guys. The window for being confirmed town for voting hopeless is closing guys.
Holyflare
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October 10 2014 16:11 GMT
#1777
On October 11 2014 01:10 Hopeless1der wrote:
so...im NOT supposed to be reading you as town HF? like wtf is your argument? I didnt solid townread you until N1.


People aren't really listening that i have a red check so I'm convincing them
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
October 10 2014 16:13 GMT
#1780
On October 11 2014 01:12 Hopeless1der wrote:
oshit
##unvote
##vote Hopeless1der


NOOO THE RULES WONT LET ME BE CONFIRRMED TOWN


Yes well at least that's correct
Holyflare
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October 10 2014 16:18 GMT
#1781
[image loading]
Holyflare
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October 10 2014 16:43 GMT
#1787
It baffles me that 100% of the people aren't on hopeless yet
Holyflare
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October 10 2014 16:47 GMT
#1790
I don't blame him. He got caught so is just messing about/meekly posting on the off chance that people don't know what's going on
Holyflare
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October 10 2014 16:59 GMT
#1796
Don't do it
Holyflare
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October 10 2014 17:00 GMT
#1797
Hopeless was active though it's just that he got caught and THEN went inactive
Holyflare
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October 10 2014 17:01 GMT
#1798
Still don't know how there's as many people off hopeless as on it though
Holyflare
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October 10 2014 17:18 GMT
#1824
Hopeless were you framed?
Holyflare
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October 10 2014 17:20 GMT
#1828
I just want to hear his answer
Holyflare
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October 10 2014 17:26 GMT
#1839
I'm asking if you got framed hopeless. Let's say for arguments sake i have the biggest red check on you I've ever seen.
Holyflare
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October 10 2014 17:28 GMT
#1842
I also don't like your damd case at all because none of those points make him mafia in any game ever and i also had the same feeling about bh being insufferable
Holyflare
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October 10 2014 17:30 GMT
#1844
On October 11 2014 02:26 StorrZerg wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 11 2014 02:24 Hopeless1der wrote:
On October 11 2014 02:23 StorrZerg wrote:
uh...

You are TMz. You really don't care who wins or loses, you just want to get as much press no matter how much truthiness it may have. Every night you may pm the host #delayedmediablitz PlayerName; that player will receive a media image injury (1KP) at the start of the day 1 cycle from now (eg. if you target someone on Night 1, they will be hit by 1 KP at the start of Day 3). You start with a bullet-proof vest to protect yourself from players like Plexico Burress (it takes 2 KP to kill you). You are a Third Party Poisoner.


so i'm correct in assuming you wouldn't know if you have been psn'd yes?


and its possible the psn could have been hit by the mafia then?

HF asked if I was framed..what are you talking about?

and...yes to both questions.


if vig is real, what happened in the night. O_o


Are you new to mafia??
Holyflare
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October 10 2014 17:31 GMT
#1846
So why don't you want to immediately lynch kelsier for knowing you were framed?
Holyflare
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October 10 2014 17:46 GMT
#1855
On October 11 2014 02:44 Alakaslam wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 11 2014 02:37 Blazinghand wrote:
I don't understand what's going on.

I am busy posting as a landlocked 16 year old lovesick red headed Princess of the sea people.

Because right when I say "damd totes town" hopeless1der comes in here with dat case


Are you saying his case was good?
Holyflare
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October 10 2014 17:47 GMT
#1857
Still lynching hopeless btw
Holyflare
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October 10 2014 17:50 GMT
#1859
On October 11 2014 02:47 Alakaslam wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 11 2014 02:46 Holyflare wrote:
On October 11 2014 02:44 Alakaslam wrote:
On October 11 2014 02:37 Blazinghand wrote:
I don't understand what's going on.

I am busy posting as a landlocked 16 year old lovesick red headed Princess of the sea people.

Because right when I say "damd totes town" hopeless1der comes in here with dat case


Are you saying his case was good?

See my previous post


Well is your last post saying so much volume he's town or so much volume full of dead stuff that grows out of bodies?
Holyflare
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October 10 2014 17:53 GMT
#1862
On October 11 2014 02:52 Alakaslam wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 11 2014 02:47 Holyflare wrote:
Still lynching hopeless btw

[image loading]

You do that


Are you disagreeing with my

[image loading]?
Holyflare
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October 10 2014 18:07 GMT
#1871
Damd is so town it hurts
Holyflare
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October 10 2014 18:26 GMT
#1872
Like everything he wrote is the perfect explanation
Holyflare
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October 10 2014 18:56 GMT
#1873
Then you just leave after he said all that or what? Is he lying about what he said hopeless?
Holyflare
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October 10 2014 19:21 GMT
#1877
On October 11 2014 04:18 KelsierSC wrote:
Hope the only reason i town read you is that obi is the one pushing to lynch you


A very bad reason
Holyflare
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October 10 2014 19:22 GMT
#1878
Even if obi somehow becomes mafia hopeless is still very very likely mafia too
Holyflare
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October 10 2014 19:23 GMT
#1879
Nobody other than hopeless is getting lynched today.
Holyflare
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October 10 2014 19:24 GMT
#1880
If you're a cop with a red check you should out btw
Holyflare
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October 10 2014 19:28 GMT
#1882
I've already explained he does retarded things all the time but he has a habit of making excuses to afk and leaving a lot as mafia which he didn't do here he got all aggro and stuck around. He COULD be mafia but you straight up ignore hopeless the scummiest person in the thread just because of a player whose alignment you don't know is pushing him.

If hopeless flips town I'm getting you shot btw
Holyflare
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October 10 2014 19:31 GMT
#1886
You so silly slam
Holyflare
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October 10 2014 19:32 GMT
#1887
Ok obi i want you to do whatever it takes to prove you are town to kelsier, answer everything he says without arguing. He could be mafia here btw so make sure you explain it in the towniest way possible.
Holyflare
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October 10 2014 19:34 GMT
#1889
K obi totally mafia
Holyflare
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October 10 2014 19:42 GMT
#1895
On October 11 2014 04:40 Blazinghand wrote:
I am kinda amazed that I can't get a lynch going on OWS. It's basically my fault for not playing this right, not appealing to what people think is scumtells, instead using my own logic. My goal isn't to convince myself, it's to convince you guys now.

In any case, I'm back and will read the damdred case, and see what the deal is. Let me know if you guys need anything from me.


The case on hopeless is far more convincing or are you actually mafia?
Holyflare
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October 10 2014 19:46 GMT
#1898
Yup
Holyflare
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October 10 2014 19:49 GMT
#1902
On October 10 2014 21:26 Holyflare wrote:
Like anyone not lynching hopeless after reading his filter or his actions the past day and night needs to go do that and then stop giving excuses about other scum reads and join this wagon.

Think about hopeless' reaction to me in the last game where i lynched him "fuck you guys modkill hf for vote count, u bad" then look at this game where I'm his never lynch list


On October 11 2014 00:50 Holyflare wrote:
All you've done is stick to damd/liam being scummy and then thrown out these free town reads conveniently and you still call them scummy before even reading everyone else.


On October 11 2014 00:54 Holyflare wrote:
Because you more than conveniently don't explain anything about like 90% of your reads and you have these 2 scum reads but nothing about them ever changes so reading these other people looks really odd from you when you don't say anything about why they're town over damd/lian being scum. It's really really strange that you have 2 scum reads but wpuld rather arbitrarily call other people town instead of pushing them

Holyflare
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October 10 2014 19:57 GMT
#1909
On October 10 2014 15:45 Holyflare wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 10 2014 11:30 Hopeless1der wrote:
i am entirely too drunk/tired to finish this right now. I stand by damdred>lian. will read kelsier storr and slam (I probably wont read slam, lets be honest here) in the morning and then try to get someone who's not me lynched. Probably damdred.


We're still 1000% lynching this guy, this is the 3rd promise of more reads into afking. Also free town read on obi.

On October 11 2014 01:02 Holyflare wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 11 2014 00:57 Hopeless1der wrote:
On October 11 2014 00:54 Holyflare wrote:
Because you more than conveniently don't explain anything about like 90% of your reads and you have these 2 scum reads but nothing about them ever changes so reading these other people looks really odd from you when you don't say anything about why they're town over damd/lian being scum. It's really really strange that you have 2 scum reads but wpuld rather arbitrarily call other people town instead of pushing them

I'm going through the game and making certain that those two are in fact the scummiest players to me before I go about pushing a lynch on anyone. Does that not make sense? Should I just RNG a new target and push them incessantly instead of reading the game?

This post Mod 12, storr is 0


Your whole game is throwing out random town reads that don't make sense and don't line up with any thought process. What really blew it for you was calling me town so conveniently based on those points you listed. I've been saying scum is very likely to bus OO because that's what he asked to do last game he was mafia and cba to play, however as you pointed out, my reason before that was "made up" therefore to you all I've done is randomly defend your scum read, pushed a flipped town and lie about a reason so that people hop on a mafia wagon. All those things are very likely for me to do as mafia. Very very likely. Yet they are super weird for anyone to town read me on. These are pretty much your only elaborated reads in the entire game too, the rest of your never lynch list isn't explained at all. All of these town reads aren't explained. Yojr scum reads aren't explained and haven't changed.

And my red check


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Holyflare
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October 10 2014 20:03 GMT
#1912
Dude bh you're trying to push a counter wagon off of scum. You're doing the exact thing you're scum reading obi for. Are you now mafia?
Holyflare
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October 10 2014 20:05 GMT
#1915
On October 11 2014 05:04 Hopeless1der wrote:
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On October 11 2014 05:03 Holyflare wrote:
Dude bh you're trying to push a counter wagon off of scum. You're doing the exact thing you're scum reading obi for. Are you now mafia?

No.


Wonderful of you. You've made no new comment on damd after his perfect towny defence btw. Going to stick to that one read then?
Holyflare
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October 10 2014 20:09 GMT
#1919
I read it, i didn't like it at all. Half of the things you scum read him for don't make him scum because i thought similar things. He also PERFECTLY defended everything you said. Literally PERFECTLY. You still scum read after that defence makes it even worse for you. The towniest thing you can do is drop it and find someone new.
Holyflare
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October 10 2014 20:10 GMT
#1921
On October 11 2014 05:08 KelsierSC wrote:
Point is obi hasn't made a single good point on hope
he just prodded to see if he could get a wagon going and then just posted a lot of noise and drivel.



He actually has made good points i dunno wtf you are talking about.
Holyflare
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October 10 2014 20:15 GMT
#1926
On October 11 2014 05:12 KelsierSC wrote:
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On October 11 2014 05:10 Holyflare wrote:
On October 11 2014 05:08 KelsierSC wrote:
Point is obi hasn't made a single good point on hope
he just prodded to see if he could get a wagon going and then just posted a lot of noise and drivel.



He actually has made good points i dunno wtf you are talking about.

which was good?

he asked you to explain a read after you posted "reasons"

he didn't step in and stop you and obi fighting. Yeh lots of people , discussion is good yo


That's not the reason he scum read hopeless at all. That's incredibly false of you. Read his filter again.
Holyflare
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October 10 2014 20:20 GMT
#1932
On October 11 2014 05:16 KelsierSC wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 11 2014 05:15 Holyflare wrote:
On October 11 2014 05:12 KelsierSC wrote:
On October 11 2014 05:10 Holyflare wrote:
On October 11 2014 05:08 KelsierSC wrote:
Point is obi hasn't made a single good point on hope
he just prodded to see if he could get a wagon going and then just posted a lot of noise and drivel.



He actually has made good points i dunno wtf you are talking about.

which was good?

he asked you to explain a read after you posted "reasons"

he didn't step in and stop you and obi fighting. Yeh lots of people , discussion is good yo


That's not the reason he scum read hopeless at all. That's incredibly false of you. Read his filter again.


i read his arguments that is the basis i see, not false at allowed


Oh fuck this noise I'm going to prove you wrong because I've actually read.
Holyflare
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October 10 2014 20:33 GMT
#1944
On October 10 2014 00:59 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 09 2014 23:52 StorrZerg wrote:
On October 09 2014 23:43 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
On October 09 2014 23:31 StorrZerg wrote:
On October 09 2014 23:26 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
On October 09 2014 23:22 StorrZerg wrote:
what do you guys think of liancourt's reaction when dealing with HF, claiming vig/cop.



Unimportant.


fantastic coming from the person who got bored and wanted to talk about something yesterday.

If you want to change the subject thats fine

[] talk about liancourt
[] talk about hopeless
[] other [insert topic]


I'm pretty focused on this hopeless lynch.

And I don't think I'm going to change my mind.


then lets talk about hopeless..... i mean your around, your responding, help drive the conversation.

liancourt, avoided talking about hopeless day 1.
hopeless thought on Iian day 1, "Would #lynchwithfire"

yet dives on

On October 08 2014 01:37 Hopeless1der wrote:
On October 08 2014 01:35 Blazinghand wrote:
I'd like everyone to bear in mind that I've presented a reason to lynch OO that is imo valid entirely independent of the fact that I RNGed him. Yes, I did RNG him so I was going to write a case on him anyways, but bear in mind that that doesn't change the facts, and the facts are: OO isn't playing this game.

yeah i'll probably end up here anyways

##Vote: ObviousOne


at this point OO was an afk person that sure was "scummy" yet afk.

i'd also say hopeless doesn't really add anything to the case on Iian, more so just agrees with my reasoning and "bad list post" yet has far more posts directed to Iian, questioning him, and calling him scum yet we come to this.


On October 09 2014 11:11 Hopeless1der wrote:
On October 09 2014 11:09 Grackaroni wrote:
Hope why did you end up voting OO? You originally liked his tone and you were complaining about it being a policy lynch for a while.

because RNGesus told me to. No wait that was Blazinghand. same difference.

In all seriousness, it seemed inevitable and I wasnt interested in pushing damdred or lian over OO, especially since OO came in long enough to give us something and never return. I was willing to switch around up until I asked where the hell did he go?


Says he "wasn't interested" I think this is a contradiction to his actions, he was very interested in pushing liam, and his reason to vote OO was just "ill end up here"



Alternatively we can lynch him for playing like mafia.

As in the majority of his filter is filler and he's basically avoided giving his opinion on almost anything at all, IE he's avoiding stepping on any toes.

I get that you're trying to analyze his actions, but if he doesn't take any actions at all there's not going to be a whole lot to analyze.


On October 10 2014 01:00 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
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On October 10 2014 00:55 Hopeless1der wrote:
that's not contradictory thats called being lazy. Would you have felt better if I afk'd my vote on Lian?

right now yes, still reading lian scum. haven't reread anything yet, at work. I'll try to give updated thoughts this evening.

My never-lynch list is HF BH grack palmar bats. aside from that I dont have much right now.


Cool, a bunch of unexplained obvious townreads and a scumread that he never bothered to follow up on or pressure at any point.


Theres so much more than this too. If you said my reasons are good then by extension obi's are too. I don't thiiink I'd even written anything about hopeless at that point either.

You're scum reading obi further for not explaining his town read on me when he did and it actually makes sense (town reading him when he was under pressure etc) instead of jumping further on me whereas when hopeless exhibits all of these traits with far scummier motives you ignore him because of obi who IS actually explaining
Holyflare
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October 10 2014 20:34 GMT
#1945
On October 11 2014 05:32 Blazinghand wrote:
fwiw literally 95%+ of what HF has said today is scummy since he's trying to shut down all kinds of reasonable discourse or alternative wagons by calling people scum for not voting along with him, rather than writing a real case or exploring reads.


Fuck off have i not written a case. I literally just copied everything to condense it too
Holyflare
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October 10 2014 20:41 GMT
#1952
Look kelsier and bh and whoever the fuck wants to lynch not hopeless today without even discussing him one iota at all. I literally don't care. Hopeless is 100% dying today no matter what you say about anyone else, I've talked about him all day, I've raised points none of you have even talked about in favour of your own shitty wagons and i will not budge from this one at all. No matter what.
Holyflare
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October 10 2014 20:42 GMT
#1953
On October 11 2014 05:37 Hopeless1der wrote:
Half of your case is "redcheck" nonsense, can you blame BH for being semi-illiterate?


Absolutely 0 of my case is this red check nonsense. Please show where i said that.
Holyflare
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October 10 2014 20:44 GMT
#1955
If anyone wants to lynch not hopeless you have to absolutely prove to me why he is not mafia. I don't want to hear something like "because of obi".
Holyflare
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October 10 2014 20:54 GMT
#1960
On October 11 2014 05:53 StorrZerg wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 11 2014 05:44 Holyflare wrote:
If anyone wants to lynch not hopeless you have to absolutely prove to me why he is not mafia. I don't want to hear something like "because of obi".


what about
"because of liam"


Potentially feasible but I'd rather you did something else
Holyflare
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October 10 2014 21:10 GMT
#1969
On October 11 2014 06:09 Hopeless1der wrote:
Grack what else do you have about me being scum that I can debunk sooner rather than later?


Explain all of your never lynch list
Holyflare
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October 10 2014 21:15 GMT
#1973
No but I'm the main person pushing your lynch and in your never lynch list.
Holyflare
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October 10 2014 21:33 GMT
#1988
On October 11 2014 06:21 Grackaroni wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 11 2014 05:33 Holyflare wrote:
On October 10 2014 00:59 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
On October 09 2014 23:52 StorrZerg wrote:
On October 09 2014 23:43 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
On October 09 2014 23:31 StorrZerg wrote:
On October 09 2014 23:26 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
On October 09 2014 23:22 StorrZerg wrote:
what do you guys think of liancourt's reaction when dealing with HF, claiming vig/cop.



Unimportant.


fantastic coming from the person who got bored and wanted to talk about something yesterday.

If you want to change the subject thats fine

[] talk about liancourt
[] talk about hopeless
[] other [insert topic]


I'm pretty focused on this hopeless lynch.

And I don't think I'm going to change my mind.


then lets talk about hopeless..... i mean your around, your responding, help drive the conversation.

liancourt, avoided talking about hopeless day 1.
hopeless thought on Iian day 1, "Would #lynchwithfire"

yet dives on

On October 08 2014 01:37 Hopeless1der wrote:
On October 08 2014 01:35 Blazinghand wrote:
I'd like everyone to bear in mind that I've presented a reason to lynch OO that is imo valid entirely independent of the fact that I RNGed him. Yes, I did RNG him so I was going to write a case on him anyways, but bear in mind that that doesn't change the facts, and the facts are: OO isn't playing this game.

yeah i'll probably end up here anyways

##Vote: ObviousOne


at this point OO was an afk person that sure was "scummy" yet afk.

i'd also say hopeless doesn't really add anything to the case on Iian, more so just agrees with my reasoning and "bad list post" yet has far more posts directed to Iian, questioning him, and calling him scum yet we come to this.


On October 09 2014 11:11 Hopeless1der wrote:
On October 09 2014 11:09 Grackaroni wrote:
Hope why did you end up voting OO? You originally liked his tone and you were complaining about it being a policy lynch for a while.

because RNGesus told me to. No wait that was Blazinghand. same difference.

In all seriousness, it seemed inevitable and I wasnt interested in pushing damdred or lian over OO, especially since OO came in long enough to give us something and never return. I was willing to switch around up until I asked where the hell did he go?


Says he "wasn't interested" I think this is a contradiction to his actions, he was very interested in pushing liam, and his reason to vote OO was just "ill end up here"



Alternatively we can lynch him for playing like mafia.

As in the majority of his filter is filler and he's basically avoided giving his opinion on almost anything at all, IE he's avoiding stepping on any toes.

I get that you're trying to analyze his actions, but if he doesn't take any actions at all there's not going to be a whole lot to analyze.


On October 10 2014 01:00 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
On October 10 2014 00:55 Hopeless1der wrote:
that's not contradictory thats called being lazy. Would you have felt better if I afk'd my vote on Lian?

right now yes, still reading lian scum. haven't reread anything yet, at work. I'll try to give updated thoughts this evening.

My never-lynch list is HF BH grack palmar bats. aside from that I dont have much right now.


Cool, a bunch of unexplained obvious townreads and a scumread that he never bothered to follow up on or pressure at any point.


Theres so much more than this too. If you said my reasons are good then by extension obi's are too. I don't thiiink I'd even written anything about hopeless at that point either.

You're scum reading obi further for not explaining his town read on me when he did and it actually makes sense (town reading him when he was under pressure etc) instead of jumping further on me whereas when hopeless exhibits all of these traits with far scummier motives you ignore him because of obi who IS actually explaining

I don't think these are very good reasons for scum reading Hopeless. These posts are a much more apt description of Palmar's play really.


This isn't the reasons I'm giving for hopeless this is that obi did give reasons but kelsier is saying he isn't.
Holyflare
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October 10 2014 21:44 GMT
#2005
I didn't even ask to lead town i said i was away for these next few days but I'm still posting stuff about hopeless regardless of this red check stuff which absolutely nobody has commented on. All YOU do is return to push this stupid obi shit and qq about me pushing hopeless when you haven't even commented on it at all.
Holyflare
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October 10 2014 22:27 GMT
#2039
This hopeless never lynch reasons are SUPER superficial btw
Holyflare
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October 10 2014 22:38 GMT
#2043
On October 11 2014 07:31 KelsierSC wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 11 2014 07:27 Holyflare wrote:
This hopeless never lynch reasons are SUPER superficial btw


can you explain more


Have you read it...?

"bh playing game"
"bat traps"
"palmar being a twat"
"grack un cc'd vig"

Really silly reads that show no thought of the game and pick up really random things to give a necer lynch town read. Ridiculous. Then he all out wants to lynch damd despite nobody agreeing and then falls flat when that's over with.
Holyflare
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October 10 2014 22:47 GMT
#2047
On October 11 2014 06:23 Hopeless1der wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 11 2014 06:15 Holyflare wrote:
No but I'm the main person pushing your lynch and in your never lynch list.

But I did explain why you're town. And it was "Magic" I gave a real answer that had reasons and wasnt retarded and everything. But noooo hopeless is full of unexplained bullshit and excuses.

Battraps legit
BH - Actually playing the game,
grack - un cc'd vig claim
palmar - least strong read but:
Vet Status+
Show nested quote +
On October 08 2014 00:00 Palmar wrote:
On October 07 2014 23:58 KelsierSC wrote:
On October 07 2014 23:56 Palmar wrote:
On October 07 2014 23:14 KelsierSC wrote:
On October 07 2014 23:00 Palmar wrote:
On October 07 2014 09:30 StorrZerg wrote:
ill make a case on someone tonight or tomorrow morning i swear its going to be good

#prepthebadwagons


Not to mention, another scumread of his is probably town.

The way this is worded makes it quite likely StorrZerg is town. The assertiveness that his yet-nonexistent case is something to be excited about is far more likely to be from a townie than from mafia.

So there's that.


I have only ever watched storrzerg on Mafia Allstars and I think in general he likes to kind of sit back and wait D1 as both alignments. Also Storrzerg seems confident and assertive as both mafia and town so not sure if I like this as a reason to call storr town. I think he is, just not sure I believe this read.



------- reasoning -------->

            you


Well the reason you give for storr being town, isn't actually a good reason because he plays that way as mafia and town. why is that bad reasoning?


Because you're thinking what and I'm thinking how.

But it's ok, I don't particularly care whether you believe me or not unless Storr is in some danger of being lynched.

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Show nested quote +
On October 08 2014 07:49 Palmar wrote:
On October 08 2014 07:36 Grackaroni wrote:
Palmar I want you to read that HF/me/Obi exchange and actually play the game. If Marv were here would you tell him he should be able to town read you by now? No you would not.

To be perfectly fair, a) he would be able to. b) even if he wouldn't admit it, I'd still shove it down his throat.

I sorta know how he reads me so well, and I know I'm basically being the stereotype of that this game.

Holyflare
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October 10 2014 22:48 GMT
#2049
It's not condensed they are his actual reads
Holyflare
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October 10 2014 23:21 GMT
#2057
I actually think kelsier is probably mafia by the way
Holyflare
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October 10 2014 23:21 GMT
#2058
Like it's quite a strongish read
Holyflare
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October 10 2014 23:30 GMT
#2062
I was quite obviously shot last night and that's the only thing giving me pause so the person/people that would have shot me last night were either asleep because eu time or new people that didn't understand how extremely towny i actually am.

Lian/kel fall into that. Also in regards to kel it's something about how he goes into town reading people that irks me quite a lot, especially throwing out these random things like when i said i had a red check on hopeless and rather than question things about obi or any other reaction that would have been legit straight away jumped to hopeless being framed and has pushed obi no matter what all day despite obi still being town.
Holyflare
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October 10 2014 23:31 GMT
#2063
It takes someone that has no idea what's going on to shoot me
Holyflare
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October 10 2014 23:40 GMT
#2067
Let's lynch obi just for you then precious.
Holyflare
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October 10 2014 23:41 GMT
#2068
Everything about lynching damdred is terrible
Holyflare
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October 10 2014 23:42 GMT
#2070
Maybe if him flipping town gets you to realise how bad your read is and actual makes bh get off his arse and lynch mafia hopeless then we can get somewhere
Holyflare
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October 10 2014 23:43 GMT
#2072
After i did all the shenanigans i was quite obviously town. Thw mafia shot didn't happen because they shot me.
People shooting me = people not around to see the shenanigans and me being obviously town.
Holyflare
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October 10 2014 23:44 GMT
#2074
Number 2 of storrs
Holyflare
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October 10 2014 23:45 GMT
#2077
On October 11 2014 08:43 KelsierSC wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 11 2014 08:40 Holyflare wrote:
Let's lynch obi just for you then precious.


so I'm mafia? but now you want to lynch my top scum read

i dont evenings


It's quite a high feeling of you being scum yes but that's from just generally being around you and your actions and not a real breakdown of your filter.

Hopeless is still the best lynch but you still won't stfu about obi for the rest of the game and neither will bh till he dies. I'm conceding to your lynch so grack can shoot hopeless.
Holyflare
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October 10 2014 23:48 GMT
#2079
On October 11 2014 08:47 KelsierSC wrote:
Also i just destroyed your entire argument so if your timezone thing is the best you got then we can get off this shitfest and actually look at people who might be lynched today


You didn't destroy any argument at all about you being mafia because i haven't made it yet?
Holyflare
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October 10 2014 23:50 GMT
#2081
Lian has a high chance of being mafia and it is annoying that no cop has said anything about these 2 lynches whatsoever today.

Regardless we're lynching your target. Have fun.
Holyflare
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October 10 2014 23:51 GMT
#2084
On October 11 2014 08:49 KelsierSC wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 11 2014 08:45 Holyflare wrote:
On October 11 2014 08:43 KelsierSC wrote:
On October 11 2014 08:40 Holyflare wrote:
Let's lynch obi just for you then precious.


so I'm mafia? but now you want to lynch my top scum read

i dont evenings


It's quite a high feeling of you being scum yes but that's from just generally being around you and your actions and not a real breakdown of your filter.

Hopeless is still the best lynch but you still won't stfu about obi for the rest of the game and neither will bh till he dies. I'm conceding to your lynch so grack can shoot hopeless.


i raised several valid points about obi and asked.him repeatedly to defend himself, he didn't do so. If i want him to answer and he refuses i cant be to blame.

again you still think.im.scum after i just refuted everything you said


I have quite literally said nothing about you other than i think you could be scummy so there is absolutely nothing for you to refute yet. I have no idea what you are saying and the shot on me is what gives me pause for lynching hopeless over say lian etc.
Holyflare
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October 10 2014 23:55 GMT
#2086
On October 11 2014 08:52 KelsierSC wrote:
You said my town reads irked you

i want to lynch obi

i didn't question your cop claim.

dont back out now bro i did warn you


How does you wanting to lynch obi answer anything I've written about your town reads being weird and i haven't even pointed out which ones yet? Like. I don't even know what you're talking about because i haven't written anything other than me thinking you are weird yet??
Holyflare
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October 10 2014 23:57 GMT
#2087
Talk about jumping the gun.
Holyflare
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October 10 2014 23:59 GMT
#2092
Right....? That's nothing to do with town reads whatsoever that's a reaction that i don't expect someone to have on a red check when they, like you said, haven't questioned my cop claim.
Holyflare
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October 11 2014 00:00 GMT
#2095
On October 11 2014 08:59 Blazinghand wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 11 2014 08:50 Holyflare wrote:
Lian has a high chance of being mafia and it is annoying that no cop has said anything about these 2 lynches whatsoever today.

Regardless we're lynching your target. Have fun.


Don't see why it's anyone but the cop's decision how and when to claim. Get off your high horse. You don't know what the check is.


A check on lian or hopeless green or red will quite literally solve the game. There is no mafia rber left and it's impossible for them to die tomorrow.
Holyflare
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October 11 2014 00:01 GMT
#2096
On October 11 2014 08:59 KelsierSC wrote:
Also all you wrote about my town reads being weird is

"his town reads irk me" this is an incredibly untrue and superficial read something you just accused hope of.

come on man if you call me scum I'm going to break you down into a mass of blood and tears.


Yes but unlike hopeless i intend to fully back it up and make posts about it and this lynch of yours will be quite telling.
Holyflare
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October 11 2014 00:03 GMT
#2099
On October 11 2014 09:03 Blazinghand wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 11 2014 09:00 Holyflare wrote:
On October 11 2014 08:59 Blazinghand wrote:
On October 11 2014 08:50 Holyflare wrote:
Lian has a high chance of being mafia and it is annoying that no cop has said anything about these 2 lynches whatsoever today.

Regardless we're lynching your target. Have fun.


Don't see why it's anyone but the cop's decision how and when to claim. Get off your high horse. You don't know what the check is.


A check on lian or hopeless green or red will quite literally solve the game. There is no mafia rber left and it's impossible for them to die tomorrow.


right, which means that the cop doesn't have one of those, so bugger off for now. he knows what he's doing I'm sure


That's impossible to know and he might have a check on them and just not be saying anything when he should be
Holyflare
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October 11 2014 00:04 GMT
#2100
On October 11 2014 09:02 Hopeless1der wrote:
HF how do you know you were shot?


I know
Holyflare
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October 11 2014 00:05 GMT
#2102
Don't press it further unless you want to get lynched all over again
Holyflare
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October 11 2014 00:06 GMT
#2104
On October 11 2014 09:04 Blazinghand wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 11 2014 09:03 Holyflare wrote:
On October 11 2014 09:03 Blazinghand wrote:
On October 11 2014 09:00 Holyflare wrote:
On October 11 2014 08:59 Blazinghand wrote:
On October 11 2014 08:50 Holyflare wrote:
Lian has a high chance of being mafia and it is annoying that no cop has said anything about these 2 lynches whatsoever today.

Regardless we're lynching your target. Have fun.


Don't see why it's anyone but the cop's decision how and when to claim. Get off your high horse. You don't know what the check is.


A check on lian or hopeless green or red will quite literally solve the game. There is no mafia rber left and it's impossible for them to die tomorrow.


right, which means that the cop doesn't have one of those, so bugger off for now. he knows what he's doing I'm sure


That's impossible to know and he might have a check on them and just not be saying anything when he should be


if he had a check on one of them and could end the game by claiming, he'd claim. don't be annoyed just because the cop didn't check 2 of the 13 players who were alive n1


If you have something useful to say about an actual mafia hopeless wagon then say it otherwise go away with your useless obi talk and cop tactics
Holyflare
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October 11 2014 00:08 GMT
#2108
On October 11 2014 09:06 KelsierSC wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 11 2014 09:01 Holyflare wrote:
On October 11 2014 08:59 KelsierSC wrote:
Also all you wrote about my town reads being weird is

"his town reads irk me" this is an incredibly untrue and superficial read something you just accused hope of.

come on man if you call me scum I'm going to break you down into a mass of blood and tears.


Yes but unlike hopeless i intend to fully back it up and make posts about it and this lynch of yours will be quite telling.


but you havent

you have lied repeatedly throughout this accusation.

you said "where did i say anything about obi" even though that is part of your opening argument.


all you did was come in and say hey guys kelsier is scum i have a strong read.

and your reasons are all shit with no backup. Backup your bullshit about my town reads being bad.
oh wait in eu timezone pfft have to be mafia.



The eu timezone is about lian not you, my read is a feeling one and i read your filter earlier and thought it looked pretty scummy. You're literally being silly and attacking for no reason because i haven't posted a case yet and when i do you can go ahead and "destroy my bull shit" but until then stfu and let's lynch obi
Holyflare
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October 11 2014 00:09 GMT
#2109
On October 11 2014 09:06 batsnacks wrote:
HF if you don't go back to voting hopeless you're mafia. It's too late for you to change your mind after all the red check bs today.


Well I'm not mafia and i can do whatever i want but thanks for the advice on how to play mafia in the future
Holyflare
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October 11 2014 00:10 GMT
#2111
Boo hoo
Holyflare
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October 11 2014 00:11 GMT
#2113
Are you going to hold people hostage and whine that I'm mafia now and i should be lynched?
Holyflare
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October 11 2014 00:12 GMT
#2116
You are really over aggressive at something I've pretty much said in passing and have made no case on. Yet you don't show this level of attitude to any of hopeless' myriad of useless posts. It's pretty interesting.
Holyflare
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October 11 2014 00:17 GMT
#2122
On October 11 2014 09:15 KelsierSC wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 11 2014 09:12 Holyflare wrote:
You are really over aggressive at something I've pretty much said in passing and have made no case on. Yet you don't show this level of attitude to any of hopeless' myriad of useless posts. It's pretty interesting.


again you lie. You did make a case on me.

slam what was that thing you posted about people.lying


I don't know how many times i have to say it but i haven't made any case on you. The me being shot is a case why it's more likely a eu timezone person is mafia and so hopeless might actually not be mafia and the conclusion i reached was lian might be mafia. The other part of the post showed something that irked me which you didn't actually address so w/e you say. If i made a case it would contain quotes and be damning.
Holyflare
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October 11 2014 00:17 GMT
#2123
On October 11 2014 09:16 batsnacks wrote:
Besides it would be really cool if HF is mafia. If he is mafia the fake vigi claim, into killing oats, into the fake cop claim is brilliant and I would be happy if HF tried to pull something like that off.


So then grack is mafia or i no shot??
Holyflare
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October 11 2014 00:18 GMT
#2125
On October 11 2014 09:16 Blazinghand wrote:
hmm, so HF just cause i'm confused and stupid and bad at reading, why are you lynching the obviously scummier OWS?


So you and kelsier will stfu
Holyflare
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October 11 2014 00:20 GMT
#2127
Shoulda woulda coulda batsnacks. I told you i didn't have time today but i was around and posted what i genuinely thought and had some fun messing around but somethings gotta be done here and of killing obi achieves this arbitrary something then so be it.
Holyflare
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October 11 2014 00:21 GMT
#2129
Quite literally you addressed 2 points that weren't addressed to you and the other point you addressed wrong because you didn't say anything about hopeless being framed.

I've also said lians case was bad because i town read damd.
Holyflare
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October 11 2014 00:23 GMT
#2130
It doesn't matter how many times you disagree or say I'm wrong i wrote the post so i know if you've "blown it out the water" or not.
Holyflare
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October 11 2014 00:24 GMT
#2131
You think I'm town anyway so what you're doing now is pathetic and distracting from the lynch.
Holyflare
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October 11 2014 00:26 GMT
#2133
Bats will you town read me again if i switch back? Can't bear you hating me babe.
Holyflare
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October 11 2014 00:27 GMT
#2135
On October 11 2014 09:26 KelsierSC wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 11 2014 09:21 Holyflare wrote:
Quite literally you addressed 2 points that weren't addressed to you and the other point you addressed wrong because you didn't say anything about hopeless being framed.

I've also said lians case was bad because i town read damd.


that doesn't address the contents of his case though.

you attacked me with 3 points.

1) my town reads irked you - superficial and untrue read, all my town reads have good reasoning. Back it.up

2) i scum read obi. Yeh because he is scummy as fuck and doesn't defend himself , just says lynch jopr. All my points are valid

3) i didn't question your cop claim, yep because i town read you and i thought fake vigi real cop was smart. Obi pushed on hope i think obi is scum. So hope is town and could be framed.



I never wrote anything about points 2 and 3.
Holyflare
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October 11 2014 00:29 GMT
#2141
On October 11 2014 09:27 KelsierSC wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 11 2014 09:24 Holyflare wrote:
You think I'm town anyway so what you're doing now is pathetic and distracting from the lynch.


you called me scum first dude. If you think defending yourself when someone calls you town is "pathetic" then you probably shouldn't call anyone scum.



Well you just proved that you didn't read what i wrote at all so you are arguing with your town read about semantics of a post that wasn't even a full blown accusation that you could refute so instead of picking out who mafia is or talking to anyone else you're being very petty over something you didn't read properly.
Holyflare
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October 11 2014 00:31 GMT
#2143
On October 11 2014 09:28 KelsierSC wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 11 2014 08:30 Holyflare wrote:
I was quite obviously shot last night and that's the only thing giving me pause so the person/people that would have shot me last night were either asleep because eu time or new people that didn't understand how extremely towny i actually am.

Lian/kel fall into that. Also in regards to kel it's something about how he goes into town reading people that irks me quite a lot, especially throwing out these random things like when i said i had a red check on hopeless and rather than question things about obi or any other reaction that would have been legit straight away jumped to hopeless being framed and has pushed obi no matter what all day despite obi still being town.


why do you continue to lie


Nowhere do i mention point 2 that your scum read of obi is scummy.

Nowhere do i mention point 3 about you not questioning me about being cop
Holyflare
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October 11 2014 00:32 GMT
#2146
You have the reading comprehension of a nat. It's quite hard to believe you come from the UK.
Holyflare
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October 11 2014 00:34 GMT
#2150
Point to the sentences where i say that or instead learn to fucking read and understand that what i said equates to:

Me saying i red checked hopeless
You saying hopeless was framed
You continue to scum read obi

That is the weirdest reaction ever and has nothing to do with w/e nonsense you are talking about
Holyflare
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October 11 2014 00:37 GMT
#2156
On October 11 2014 09:35 Hopeless1der wrote:
2 & 3

Show nested quote +
On October 11 2014 08:30 Holyflare wrote:
I was quite obviously shot last night and that's the only thing giving me pause so the person/people that would have shot me last night were either asleep because eu time or new people that didn't understand how extremely towny i actually am.

Lian/kel fall into that. Also in regards to kel it's something about how he goes into town reading people that irks me quite a lot, especially throwing out these random things like when i said i had a red check on hopeless and rather than question things about obi or any other reaction that would have been legit straight away jumped to hopeless being framed and has pushed obi no matter what all day despite obi still being town.





I'm talking about questioning your read and your rebuttal is that it doesn't matter obi is scummy. Lol. You don't even look for the town motivation or anything at the time you just jump to the most foreign idea first. Which is weird.
Holyflare
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October 11 2014 00:41 GMT
#2160
On March 19 2014 11:34 Hopeless1der wrote:
coag for seal
HF for being dense and altogether not useful
rayn for being rayn
palmar for general pigheadedness and his early game telling me to piss off
DP for general demeanor though tbh I could cherry pick a reasonable conspiracy/association case from him


Btw this is the read hopeless made on palmar in titanic paint and palmar was mafia.

Hopeless should know his never die palmar read doesn't make palmar town.
Holyflare
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October 11 2014 00:46 GMT
#2165
Kelsier you're so dumb it's unbelievable.

A normal thought process is:
"hey this guy has a red check on the target my scum read is lynching, maybe I'm wrong especially as this cop said he was checking lian and said to others to check lian, maybe my scum read is wrong!"

A weird one that looks scummy:

"oh this guy told ppl to check lian but then checked hopeless but my scum read is voting hopeless so I'm right let's just say hopeless was framed instead of rethinking things! Fuck voting this guy or even talking about the red check guy ever because my target is voting him! "

Guess which one you chose.
Holyflare
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October 11 2014 00:48 GMT
#2166
On October 11 2014 09:45 Hopeless1der wrote:
so instead of telling keliser why he's mafia, HF chooses to research old games where he proves that I'm as bad as I ever was. well done holyflare. =\


Im on my phone he's not any of my lynch choices tonight, i haven't properly thoroughly read his filter and made a case, i haven't posted anything to do with him other than a suspicious thought process at the start of the day and how he developed his town reads bugged me. It's not going to happen tonight.
Holyflare
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October 11 2014 00:51 GMT
#2169
You would be lynching your town power role and i legitimately am one.
Holyflare
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October 11 2014 00:55 GMT
#2174
On October 11 2014 09:52 batsnacks wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 11 2014 09:51 Holyflare wrote:
You would be lynching your town power role and i legitimately am one.


Do they tell stories about the boy who cried wolf where you live?


You know what happens to the boy? His story comes true.

I also clearly meant NAT (not another translator) which is a translation software for blind people which is notoriously bad at reading.
Holyflare
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October 11 2014 00:56 GMT
#2176
Well I'm lynching someone i think is town, what gave it away?
Holyflare
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October 11 2014 01:01 GMT
#2180
On October 11 2014 10:00 batsnacks wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 11 2014 09:55 Blazinghand wrote:
hf you must just be trolling us at this point


He's not trolling he's mafia. Obiwan has a majority right now because of my vote on HF. Hopeless will dodge the lynch if nothing changes.


I'm still lynching hopeless you tool
Holyflare
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October 11 2014 01:02 GMT
#2181
There's not a chance on earth I'd lynch obi my town read over someone as scummy as hopeless
Holyflare
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October 11 2014 01:06 GMT
#2184
Nothings changed. Hopeless only wants to lynch damd and is actually around now and would much rather just hop on the bandwagon on obi rather than push a second target or more on damd after being dismantled.
Holyflare
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October 11 2014 01:14 GMT
#2188
On October 11 2014 10:08 Blazinghand wrote:
what a surprise, hf trolling again

such unexpect
many surprise
wow


I like to spice things up a bit
Holyflare
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October 11 2014 01:16 GMT
#2189
On October 11 2014 10:08 Alakaslam wrote:
So are we the only ones here HF?

I won't be here forever but then you prolly don't have much to say to me


You probably have to be shot at some point unless you become coherent and do stuff like you did at the very start of day 1.
Holyflare
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October 11 2014 01:26 GMT
#2203
On October 11 2014 10:23 Alakaslam wrote:
I find it amusing, during the timing I wanted to be misread, folks were in a firm "slam is untouchable" mindset

Now folks be like "I have no clue what he is"

Like you all drunk foh dayz? Sloooooooow reaction times.

Everyone all like "slam maybe scum taunting us? Mebbe he is scum?"

When all n1, it was like 10,000 yandere at HF

Like srs

What could yandere mean but poison?

And acted like BH not gonna die. That was other 3p the martyr claim.

But only now, after I had been yelling "I AM SKIMMU ATTAX ME" day 1 now ppl waking up to see some train left on a plane long ago.


This is false because the first thing i did today was question you about being a 3p and the radar crap. Day 1 i thought you were towny and explained it but day 2 you have been an unreadable mess and I'd rather get a vig to shoot you rather than question you and have to read into meanings and decipher what you write when i know you are perfectly capable of being coherent and actually coming up with good reads.
Holyflare
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October 11 2014 01:28 GMT
#2206
Batsnacks voting obi is silly and blatently a troll
Holyflare
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October 11 2014 01:30 GMT
#2209
Like slam you already admitted that you're TRYING to be misread day 1 or w/e so there's no point even trying to question you if your ultimate goal is to mislead people into reading you as something you're not. It's just a waste of time to even bother.
Holyflare
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October 11 2014 01:35 GMT
#2224
On October 11 2014 10:34 StorrZerg wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 11 2014 10:32 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
Nevermind, I know you don't want to vote me.

Where do you stand on Hopeless?



liam >>>>>>>(bats)*>>>>>>>>>>>>> holy > damnd > obi if i had an order for possible lynches today




*+ Show Spoiler +
only cause he pissing me off and is and idiot


You think im mafia rofl?
Holyflare
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October 11 2014 01:39 GMT
#2235
On October 11 2014 10:35 Alakaslam wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 11 2014 10:30 Holyflare wrote:
Like slam you already announced that you're TRYING to be misread day 1 or w/e so there's no point even trying to question you if your ultimate goal is to mislead people into reading you as something you're not. It's just a waste of time to even bother.

Yes but you thinks I own perfection?

For should not there be a mistake in the act, revealing to thee my true motive?


I don't think you own anything, revealing what you're doing has no meaning really, i just want you to play and have actual reads like you used to when i played with you in newbies and even though you spammed like crazy actually gave good insight into things. Now you're just devolving into spam, want to deceive people and aren't really bothered how things go in the scheme of things or at least don't make it known. Your day 1 start i was actually happy you were playing. Now i am not.
Holyflare
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October 11 2014 01:41 GMT
#2243
On October 11 2014 10:38 Blazinghand wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 11 2014 01:02 Holyflare wrote:
On October 11 2014 00:57 Hopeless1der wrote:
On October 11 2014 00:54 Holyflare wrote:
Because you more than conveniently don't explain anything about like 90% of your reads and you have these 2 scum reads but nothing about them ever changes so reading these other people looks really odd from you when you don't say anything about why they're town over damd/lian being scum. It's really really strange that you have 2 scum reads but wpuld rather arbitrarily call other people town instead of pushing them

I'm going through the game and making certain that those two are in fact the scummiest players to me before I go about pushing a lynch on anyone. Does that not make sense? Should I just RNG a new target and push them incessantly instead of reading the game?

This post Mod 12, storr is 0


Your whole game is throwing out random town reads that don't make sense and don't line up with any thought process. What really blew it for you was calling me town so conveniently based on those points you listed. I've been saying scum is very likely to bus OO because that's what he asked to do last game he was mafia and cba to play, however as you pointed out, my reason before that was "made up" therefore to you all I've done is randomly defend your scum read, pushed a flipped town and lie about a reason so that people hop on a mafia wagon. All those things are very likely for me to do as mafia. Very very likely. Yet they are super weird for anyone to town read me on. These are pretty much your only elaborated reads in the entire game too, the rest of your never lynch list isn't explained at all. All of these town reads aren't explained. Yojr scum reads aren't explained and haven't changed.

And my red check


So the case on H1 is

1. H1 doesn't explain anything about 90% of his reads. he has many "these people are odd" reads.
2. H1 reads damd and lian as being scum, and instead of pushing them, townreads a bunch of other people.
3. The townreads he throws up are nonsensical and don't come from any reason
4. HF acted scummy and H1 townread HF for it

is this accurate?


+the oo wagon switch and his absence from conversations just to have no conclusion after and his pushing of damd despite almost none of his points showing a mafia mindset
Holyflare
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October 11 2014 01:43 GMT
#2245
On October 11 2014 10:40 Blazinghand wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 11 2014 10:39 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
On October 11 2014 10:38 Blazinghand wrote:
On October 11 2014 01:02 Holyflare wrote:
On October 11 2014 00:57 Hopeless1der wrote:
On October 11 2014 00:54 Holyflare wrote:
Because you more than conveniently don't explain anything about like 90% of your reads and you have these 2 scum reads but nothing about them ever changes so reading these other people looks really odd from you when you don't say anything about why they're town over damd/lian being scum. It's really really strange that you have 2 scum reads but wpuld rather arbitrarily call other people town instead of pushing them

I'm going through the game and making certain that those two are in fact the scummiest players to me before I go about pushing a lynch on anyone. Does that not make sense? Should I just RNG a new target and push them incessantly instead of reading the game?

This post Mod 12, storr is 0


Your whole game is throwing out random town reads that don't make sense and don't line up with any thought process. What really blew it for you was calling me town so conveniently based on those points you listed. I've been saying scum is very likely to bus OO because that's what he asked to do last game he was mafia and cba to play, however as you pointed out, my reason before that was "made up" therefore to you all I've done is randomly defend your scum read, pushed a flipped town and lie about a reason so that people hop on a mafia wagon. All those things are very likely for me to do as mafia. Very very likely. Yet they are super weird for anyone to town read me on. These are pretty much your only elaborated reads in the entire game too, the rest of your never lynch list isn't explained at all. All of these town reads aren't explained. Yojr scum reads aren't explained and haven't changed.

And my red check


So the case on H1 is

1. H1 doesn't explain anything about 90% of his reads. he has many "these people are odd" reads.
2. H1 reads damd and lian as being scum, and instead of pushing them, townreads a bunch of other people.
3. The townreads he throws up are nonsensical and don't come from any reason
4. HF acted scummy and H1 townread HF for it

is this accurate?


The case on h1 is that he made up reasons to townread Holyflare after thinking he was scummy for all of day 1.

Read everything that I said about him at the start of day 2.


OK, so a nonsensical townread on HF. just out of curiosity, did this townread begin during N1 or D2?


N1 but the majority of his reasons were day 1, i don't really think he scum read me i can't remember
Holyflare
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October 11 2014 01:44 GMT
#2247
Ok nvm maybe he did
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October 11 2014 01:49 GMT
#2249
On October 11 2014 10:43 Alakaslam wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 11 2014 10:39 Holyflare wrote:
On October 11 2014 10:35 Alakaslam wrote:
On October 11 2014 10:30 Holyflare wrote:
Like slam you already announced that you're TRYING to be misread day 1 or w/e so there's no point even trying to question you if your ultimate goal is to mislead people into reading you as something you're not. It's just a waste of time to even bother.

Yes but you thinks I own perfection?

For should not there be a mistake in the act, revealing to thee my true motive?


I don't think you own anything, revealing what you're doing has no meaning really, i just want you to play and have actual reads like you used to when i played with you in newbies and even though you spammed like crazy actually gave good insight into things. Now you're just devolving into spam, want to deceive people and aren't really bothered how things go in the scheme of things or at least don't make it known. Your day 1 start i was actually happy you were playing. Now i am not.


I burnout. 500rwhp you know.

When none try @ me I also cease to try @ them.

Thing is I conftown too fast; I cannot tell what feo what except by FIGHT

but not fight over whether or not I should be banned. That is horse feces.

However Coag used to get amusement from that and DP might think it was funny so I don't worry about that anymore.

Anyway yup someone said BH would be insufferable

Guess what


Yes well when you've been posting like you have people find it impossible to interact with you because you make it seemingly impossible to read any of your posts so people don't even want to start to interact with you further because they have to read text that says wtf to them. We are only humans with a limited patience to interact with things that don't follow the conventional norms of sentences and such. While some people find it fun, a lot of them do not. I don't want you banned and that isn't storrs intention either i am pretty sure he is just a little frustrated that you don't play conventionally.

I'll try and interact with you better at least if you try and answer me in a way i can understand properly.
Holyflare
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October 11 2014 01:52 GMT
#2256
If hopeless flips town we can shoot obi just for you
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October 11 2014 01:55 GMT
#2264
Hm i dunno if I'd be shot though if hopeless is mafia. If a vet took a bullet it's probably best to claim to reinforce hopeless being able to be mafia though
Holyflare
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October 11 2014 01:58 GMT
#2268
On October 11 2014 10:56 Alakaslam wrote:
Composition is key. Dry, MLA composition.

It's like that NerfNow comic; Morgan is up in there doing a ton of tower defense math and is like "this is fun"

Which I get. But when people are seriously like

Meh actually probably better if I piss offt. I keep remembering that dolt on Smashboards and transposing that here which is unfair since I am going wayyy deeper into association and reference here than I did there and the response is like 1,000 times more reasonable. And I am still getting pissy about it and trolling. Which was already unfair.


Just put on some cool calming music. Take a few minutes to forget whatever happened elsewhere and here and just tell me what you think. I don't really mind if it's even association based.
Holyflare
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October 11 2014 02:01 GMT
#2273
Dunno wtf batsnacks is doing after trying to guilt trip me into voting hopeless
Holyflare
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October 11 2014 02:03 GMT
#2277
I do just want the flip
Holyflare
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October 11 2014 02:09 GMT
#2280
Obi's day 1 (disregarding his awful start) looks towny to me
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October 11 2014 02:19 GMT
#2296
Wow lian admitting he's mafia
Holyflare
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October 11 2014 02:21 GMT
#2302
On October 11 2014 11:20 liancourt wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 11 2014 11:19 Holyflare wrote:
Wow lian admitting he's mafia


totally


If you were to tie with storr despite neither of you being up for lynch why would it make you both mafia ehhh?
Holyflare
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October 11 2014 02:21 GMT
#2304
On October 11 2014 11:20 StorrZerg wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 11 2014 11:19 Holyflare wrote:
Wow lian admitting he's mafia


if i admit to being his team mate can we lynch him?


Can lynch you first to confirm
Holyflare
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October 11 2014 02:22 GMT
#2307
On October 11 2014 11:22 StorrZerg wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 11 2014 11:21 Hopeless1der wrote:
On October 11 2014 11:20 StorrZerg wrote:
On October 11 2014 11:19 Holyflare wrote:
Wow lian admitting he's mafia


if i admit to being his team mate can we lynch him?

can we lynch you first?


fuck no im town


So you're calling him town then!
Holyflare
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October 11 2014 02:25 GMT
#2313
So who the hell else is mafia
Holyflare
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October 11 2014 02:31 GMT
#2319
On October 11 2014 11:30 Hopeless1der wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 11 2014 11:29 liancourt wrote:
On October 11 2014 11:20 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
Oh.

Well then forcing a no lynch is a scumclaim. Don't do it.


you're at an advantage so you'd say this. No threat of you being lynched and at worst u and hope don't get lynched and we have the same discussion on d3. With the way it's going now best scenario for you is hope flipping scum. But what if hope flips town does that make you scum?

he says yes, if I flip town he is scum.


Save yourself man
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October 11 2014 02:32 GMT
#2320
I really want to lynch obi so show me you're town hope
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October 11 2014 02:34 GMT
#2326
On October 11 2014 11:33 Hopeless1der wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 11 2014 11:32 Holyflare wrote:
I really want to lynch obi so show me you're town hope

/s get fcked




Y u do dis?
Holyflare
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October 11 2014 02:35 GMT
#2328
Anyone wanna switch to palmar for the lolz?
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October 11 2014 02:36 GMT
#2333
On October 11 2014 11:36 Hopeless1der wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 11 2014 11:34 Holyflare wrote:
On October 11 2014 11:33 Hopeless1der wrote:
On October 11 2014 11:32 Holyflare wrote:
I really want to lynch obi so show me you're town hope

/s get fcked




Y u do dis?

because this is worse than last game. At least then I was literally all excuses and no content. Now I've actually tried and no one is giving a shit, I'm still getting scumread for bullshit and my counterwagon is probably town.


So if we're not lynching damd who else is there?
Holyflare
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October 11 2014 02:38 GMT
#2336
I want hopeless to attempt to save himself and put an iota of care into this defence if he's saying he's town.
Holyflare
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October 11 2014 02:39 GMT
#2339
Yes well palmar is useless but that doesn't make him mafia batsnacks it makes him useless and a dick
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October 11 2014 02:41 GMT
#2344
I very much dislike that he is not playing it's pretty annoying and rude
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October 11 2014 02:48 GMT
#2358
Hopeless is in my towncircle too. Definitely don't hate his filter because it looks like he's trying to push the thread forward and isn't getting bogged down in nonsense. I'm just getting strong townfeels from him. (Though I don't know how you expected me to get a ton of things down when someone is putting me through the ringer for next to nothing so early. Idk.)


Obi why did you write this day 1 but then day 2 say hopeless' filter looks like classic mafia?
Holyflare
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October 11 2014 02:49 GMT
#2360
We're not lynching palmar btw. Obi could actually be possible
Holyflare
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October 11 2014 02:55 GMT
#2368
Obi seriously fucking do it or i will lynch you, there's no time for your playing coy and withholding reads because of no reason, explain your shit.
Holyflare
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October 11 2014 02:57 GMT
#2369
There could be 3kp tomorrow btw
Holyflare
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October 11 2014 02:59 GMT
#2370
I hope ypu claim blue hopeless :/
Holyflare
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October 11 2014 03:09 GMT
#2374
Mehhhh
Holyflare
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October 11 2014 03:12 GMT
#2375
Where's obi gone, where is slam? Where is damd?
Holyflare
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October 11 2014 03:13 GMT
#2377
Lian how can you say you want the debate over but then vote for the tie....?
Holyflare
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October 11 2014 03:18 GMT
#2384
Meeehhhhhhhhhhh
Holyflare
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October 11 2014 03:20 GMT
#2388
Stop lynching palmar
Holyflare
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October 11 2014 03:21 GMT
#2390
It's not like the last game he could actually be a medic or a cop
Holyflare
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October 11 2014 03:22 GMT
#2393
In fact it's increasingly likely he's the cop and did some silly check on me because he isn't playing the game
Holyflare
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October 11 2014 03:23 GMT
#2395
On October 11 2014 12:22 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 11 2014 12:18 Holyflare wrote:
Meeehhhhhhhhhhh


That's it? After you flip the fuck out over me not engaging mafia? That's all you have to say?


I'm saying meh because you both could be town
Holyflare
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October 11 2014 03:24 GMT
#2396
Seriously where the fuck is damd
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October 11 2014 03:27 GMT
#2404
On October 11 2014 12:26 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 11 2014 12:23 Holyflare wrote:
On October 11 2014 12:22 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
On October 11 2014 12:18 Holyflare wrote:
Meeehhhhhhhhhhh


That's it? After you flip the fuck out over me not engaging mafia? That's all you have to say?


I'm saying meh because you both could be town


Why is he town?

All day you went on about Hopeless being obvious mafia, and I still think that he is. Where is this coming from?


Should i paste the same picture that i did to palmar about the pot and kettle? You scum read me all day 1, voted for me and changed that read immediately in a night and now it's bad i can change a read?
Holyflare
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October 11 2014 03:28 GMT
#2405
On October 11 2014 12:27 liancourt wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 11 2014 12:23 Holyflare wrote:
On October 11 2014 12:22 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
On October 11 2014 12:18 Holyflare wrote:
Meeehhhhhhhhhhh


That's it? After you flip the fuck out over me not engaging mafia? That's all you have to say?


I'm saying meh because you both could be town


you realize that now when we have 33 mins left?


Did hopeless start magically posting before now? No.
Holyflare
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October 11 2014 03:31 GMT
#2409
I liked how he explained everything so well i dunno how to explain it, he made me all tingly. Like he was happy to defend that case against him because he knew he was town kind of way
Holyflare
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October 11 2014 03:33 GMT
#2412
Hopeless bro I'm sorry if you're town but i still think you have to die today. If you do flip town I'll seriously look into what you said properly on damd etc.
Holyflare
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October 11 2014 03:33 GMT
#2413
I'll laugh if this is all a waste of time because grack is actually mafia
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October 11 2014 03:35 GMT
#2416
On October 11 2014 12:34 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 11 2014 12:31 Holyflare wrote:
I liked how he explained everything so well i dunno how to explain it, he made me all tingly. Like he was happy to defend that case against him because he knew he was town kind of way


I don't see it.

Even if I did, I still can't see the contradictions in his play be worth overlooking to consider not lynching him over it. He had plenty of time to defend himself but put me on /ignore when I engaged him over it.


What contradictions are you even talking about?
Holyflare
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October 11 2014 03:35 GMT
#2418
On October 11 2014 12:34 Grackaroni wrote:
ha what happened to being so convinced you were shot


Alcohol
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October 11 2014 03:36 GMT
#2421
On October 11 2014 12:35 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 11 2014 12:35 Holyflare wrote:
On October 11 2014 12:34 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
On October 11 2014 12:31 Holyflare wrote:
I liked how he explained everything so well i dunno how to explain it, he made me all tingly. Like he was happy to defend that case against him because he knew he was town kind of way


I don't see it.

Even if I did, I still can't see the contradictions in his play be worth overlooking to consider not lynching him over it. He had plenty of time to defend himself but put me on /ignore when I engaged him over it.


What contradictions are you even talking about?


The ones I pointed out at day start.


Quote them
Holyflare
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October 11 2014 03:37 GMT
#2423
Grack if we lynch damd you have to shoot hopeless or obi most probably because the entirety of tomorrow will be the same as today
Holyflare
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October 11 2014 03:38 GMT
#2426
Whereeeeee are these afkers!
Holyflare
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October 11 2014 03:39 GMT
#2429
That for mafia for town thing bugs me
Holyflare
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October 11 2014 03:40 GMT
#2432
In that liancourt quote
Holyflare
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October 11 2014 03:41 GMT
#2434
Need a vote count up in here
Holyflare
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October 11 2014 03:44 GMT
#2443
Yes lynch hopeless please
Everyone in werewolf knows how detrimental it is to leave discussion on the same thing for so long, like skydragon, only to get lynched and flip town later. I'd rather get it over with now, stick to what we discussed in the day rather than at deadline and reevaluate after the flip
Holyflare
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October 11 2014 03:48 GMT
#2451
Look everyone get back on hopeless. Today is NOT the day where we do shenanigans or vote off the two wagons. We absolutely have to kill this discussion today and if hopeless flips town seriously reevaluate people.
Holyflare
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October 11 2014 03:50 GMT
#2456
I can't believe i stayed up for this shit
Holyflare
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October 11 2014 03:51 GMT
#2458
Soz again hopeless

Maybe
Holyflare
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October 11 2014 03:53 GMT
#2464
Oh yeh damd how experienced is KelsierSC?
Holyflare
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October 11 2014 03:54 GMT
#2465
On October 11 2014 12:53 StorrZerg wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 11 2014 12:52 Damdred wrote:
you really should apologize to me after the game for our tunnel hopeless


WAT


What are you whating about?
Holyflare
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October 11 2014 03:55 GMT
#2468
Slam could be mafia.......
Holyflare
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October 11 2014 03:55 GMT
#2469
Annoyingly hes away.... i hope he does talk to me
Holyflare
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October 11 2014 03:58 GMT
#2472
Hopeless why did you shoot my vest bro
Holyflare
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October 11 2014 03:59 GMT
#2474
Not anymore
Holyflare
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October 11 2014 03:59 GMT
#2476
Eventually
Holyflare
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October 11 2014 04:00 GMT
#2479
I'm not though
Holyflare
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October 11 2014 04:00 GMT
#2483
Gets away implies he won't get shit for it
Holyflare
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October 11 2014 04:03 GMT
#2488
Sweet i am sick at this game
Holyflare
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October 11 2014 04:04 GMT
#2492
On October 11 2014 13:03 Holyflare wrote:
Sweet i am sick at this game


Like i know i had my doubts but my red check pulled through
Holyflare
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October 11 2014 04:06 GMT
#2496
I dunno what to think about that framed comment now. It IS even more suspicious.
Holyflare
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October 11 2014 04:08 GMT
#2500
Lian had weird shit about oo vote and storr said something about him not mentioning hopeless or something + he wasn't on any wagon
Holyflare
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October 11 2014 04:09 GMT
#2504
On October 11 2014 13:08 Grackaroni wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 11 2014 13:06 batsnacks wrote:
On October 11 2014 13:06 Grackaroni wrote:
Now I can't shoot Palmar


You could have lynched him I was very serious about it.

Yeah but then HF said I would have to shoot into Hopeless or Obi if we lynched someone else so I figured it'd be much easier to give HF his lynch and then shoot whoever I felt like shooting


<3
Holyflare
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October 11 2014 04:10 GMT
#2505
On October 11 2014 13:09 liancourt wrote:
well now i know why hope didnt post that gravestone


Why did you not vote on anyone despite saying we needed to kill them so discussion wouldn't be just about them?
Holyflare
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October 11 2014 04:12 GMT
#2507
Sadly this game might well contain 3p's so finding them is ridiculously hard
Holyflare
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October 11 2014 04:13 GMT
#2509
I hope it's a martyr :d
Holyflare
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October 11 2014 04:14 GMT
#2511
I'm relatively sure we have a medic and i got saved after hopeless calling me a poisoner though
Holyflare
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October 11 2014 04:15 GMT
#2512
I'm likely poisoned if it's a poisoner
Holyflare
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October 11 2014 04:18 GMT
#2516
Man that reaction from Chelsea about me calling him mafia was so jumpy.... But he would have played pretty well if he was mafia especially if he's new. Also his framer comment, although if hopeless was framed he wouldn't believe I had a red check on him but that could also explain why he actually ignored it
Holyflare
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October 11 2014 04:18 GMT
#2517
On October 11 2014 13:16 StorrZerg wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 11 2014 13:15 Holyflare wrote:
I'm likely poisoned if it's a poisoner


or you are the psner O_o

doesn't matter right now.


I would concede if i was because i wouldn't live till lylo after killing 2 mafia
Holyflare
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October 11 2014 04:19 GMT
#2519
You still think obi is mafia..... It's possible with his conviction to lynch hopeless based on nothing...
Holyflare
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October 11 2014 04:20 GMT
#2521
I don't think he is though and his reasons weren't awful. There's far scummier people in mind.
Holyflare
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October 11 2014 04:21 GMT
#2522
On October 11 2014 13:20 Grackaroni wrote:
Why would anyone believe your red check after you spent the whole night pretending to be a vig?


I think faking vig to get healed but turning out to be cop and saving a towny would be a pretty good plan
Holyflare
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October 11 2014 04:21 GMT
#2523
So technically i was a mediccopvig
Holyflare
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October 11 2014 04:22 GMT
#2524
I think if we have a cop he checks KelsierSC, vig shoot lian and follow up from there tbh
Holyflare
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October 11 2014 04:25 GMT
#2526
Oh that's true... Annoying
Holyflare
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October 11 2014 04:25 GMT
#2527
Can still find poisoner/martyr i guess
Holyflare
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October 11 2014 04:26 GMT
#2529
Probably true
Holyflare
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October 11 2014 04:27 GMT
#2530
Nobody was framed n1 btw
Holyflare
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October 11 2014 04:29 GMT
#2532
Magic
Holyflare
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October 11 2014 04:35 GMT
#2536
Mafia is kelsier, slam, liam, storr (maybe not storr) , damd (maybe not damd)

3p look for the apathetic ppl that don't give a shit who is lynched: slam, palmar (very likely based on day 1 and 2), etc
Holyflare
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October 11 2014 04:38 GMT
#2538
On October 11 2014 13:36 StorrZerg wrote:
hf you stop that right now.


?
Holyflare
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October 11 2014 04:59 GMT
#2546
On October 11 2014 13:57 batsnacks wrote:
What if HF is mafia and killed his whole team?



Tee hee
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
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October 11 2014 05:00 GMT
#2548
Just going to continue with what i was saying earlier. I am the town roleblocker and i rb'd hopeless n1 so nobody was framed. If you have checks they are legit.
Holyflare
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October 11 2014 05:00 GMT
#2549
On October 11 2014 14:00 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
How the fuck does anyone have me as mafia at this point.

How in the actual fuck.


Boo hoo
Holyflare
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October 11 2014 05:04 GMT
#2552
On October 11 2014 14:03 liancourt wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 11 2014 13:57 batsnacks wrote:
What if HF is mafia and killed his whole team?


I'd give him an oscar because that would be so fucked up and mind blowing that I would want him to win if he was mafia playing like this.


I've done it before
Holyflare
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October 11 2014 05:05 GMT
#2554
I'm gonna rb palmar so if no kill goes off in 2 days you know why
Holyflare
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October 11 2014 05:08 GMT
#2556
On October 11 2014 05:03 Holyflare wrote:
Dude bh you're trying to push a counter wagon off of scum. You're doing the exact thing you're scum reading obi for. Are you now mafia?


Hehe
Holyflare
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October 11 2014 05:10 GMT
#2557
I think we should just shoot lian or KelsierSC and be done with it
Holyflare
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October 11 2014 05:19 GMT
#2562
On October 11 2014 09:46 Holyflare wrote:
Kelsier you're so dumb it's unbelievable.

A normal thought process is:
"hey this guy has a red check on the target my scum read is lynching, maybe I'm wrong especially as this cop said he was checking lian and said to others to check lian, maybe my scum read is wrong!"

A weird one that looks scummy:

"oh this guy told ppl to check lian but then checked hopeless but my scum read is voting hopeless so I'm right let's just say hopeless was framed instead of rethinking things! Fuck voting this guy or even talking about the red check guy ever because my target is voting him! "

Guess which one you chose.

Holyflare
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October 11 2014 05:19 GMT
#2563
He said he believed i was cop btw
Holyflare
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October 11 2014 05:21 GMT
#2566
On October 11 2014 14:20 liancourt wrote:
so HF is cop
grack is vig
and there is indeed a medic?

so what HF said at the beginning of the day were all true? holy moly...


No I'm a roleblocker
Holyflare
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October 11 2014 05:23 GMT
#2568
On October 11 2014 14:00 Holyflare wrote:
Just going to continue with what i was saying earlier. I am the town roleblocker and i rb'd hopeless n1 so nobody was framed. If you have checks they are legit.


This is the truth
Holyflare
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October 11 2014 05:25 GMT
#2570
I'm blocking who i think is 3rd party because i can't block mafia kp
Holyflare
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October 11 2014 05:26 GMT
#2572
Dunno if i can rb a gf though
Holyflare
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October 11 2014 05:28 GMT
#2574
I stopped hopeless framing people
Holyflare
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October 11 2014 11:18 GMT
#2579
What happens if the godfather is roleblocked and investigated on the same night? He returns as mafia-aligned.


I'm gonna rb KelsierSC so cop check him
Holyflare
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October 11 2014 13:05 GMT
#2581
On October 11 2014 21:41 Palmar wrote:
rekt!


You still claiming not 3p?
Holyflare
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October 11 2014 13:05 GMT
#2582
Also if there is a martyr plz save me ty
Holyflare
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October 11 2014 13:54 GMT
#2584
I'd really rather the cop check targets like lian and kelsier
Holyflare
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October 11 2014 15:11 GMT
#2585
don't get lazy now guys! laziness loses games!
Holyflare
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October 11 2014 15:59 GMT
#2586
i'm going out tonight so won't really be able to post till much later and then i'll prob be pretty drunk
Holyflare
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October 11 2014 17:22 GMT
#2594
batsnacks could be 3p too you know
Holyflare
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October 11 2014 17:23 GMT
#2595
stupid thing about 3p's is more often than not they look towny
Holyflare
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October 11 2014 17:27 GMT
#2596
thinks is best to just look at the people who look townyish but don't really give a shit who we lynch

palmar, slam, snacks to an extent (maybe)

im rbing kelsier, check him, shoot liam maybe, look at what i said about kelsier but also remember the funky oo thing from lian and the not being on hopeless or obi despite wanting the convo to end about 2 of them (probably didn't want to vote a team mate), don't count damd out because of hopeless they needed to do crazy stuff after being down a player day 1 so a bus is really plausible and he could have made a case on his team mate thinking that it was easy to push scummy things on someone who is actually scum but i think damd is after kelsier/lian tbh
Holyflare
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October 11 2014 17:27 GMT
#2597
medic should be on grack and i hope grack super steps up tomorrow! if there is a real vig and grack is fake then shoot grack plz
Holyflare
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October 11 2014 21:56 GMT
#2612
And he believed my red check and called it a frame and still pushed obi

Doesn't matter he's getting cop checked and even if he's the gf I'm rbing him so he'll appear mafia to checks if he is
Holyflare
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October 12 2014 09:18 GMT
#2685
Um palmar no I'm a rber maybe you should read the game
Holyflare
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October 12 2014 09:19 GMT
#2686
Batsnacks kill was probably a blue snipe attempt.
Holyflare
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October 12 2014 09:21 GMT
#2687
I still hope there's a cop although unlikely at this point, medic /vig/rber seems legit
Holyflare
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October 12 2014 09:31 GMT
#2688
We can find the poisoner tomorrow because medic can heal me again so we do a retard check, if the poisoner shot doesn't happen the poisoner is kelsier for being rb'd tonight or some kind of lower intelligence being
Holyflare
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October 12 2014 09:33 GMT
#2689
On October 12 2014 13:36 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
With the knowledge that we now know that a mafia shot is missing, it's incredibly likely that there's a mafia inside of the high profile players who all normally take shots early.

Let's take a look at the player list of people left and why they would be shot night 1:

Obi - Flattering, but nobody is going to shoot me night one.
Damdred - Not a night one shot.
Grack - Confirmed vigi, isn't dead. Obviously wasn't shot.
Holyflare - Possibly shot, condemned by mafia on their death bed.
Palmar - Another possible shot.
KSC - Not a night one shot.
Slam - Slam never dies. Ever. Not a night one shot.
Storr - Maybe. I'd probably need someone to talk it over with me.

So in the end, we're left with the most likely night 1 kills: Holyflare, Palmar, and Storr.

After yesterday, there's no chance Holyflare is scum. He already knows the benefit of CFDing onto another target with such controversy surrounding players the way that lynch went down. And there's no reason to believe that he wouldn't have been able to pull that off.

So we're left with Storr and Palmar.


This analysis is terrible because if there's mafia inthe high profile players why would a shot be missing???
Holyflare
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October 12 2014 10:58 GMT
#2694
Kelsier is red, who knew!
Holyflare
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October 12 2014 11:13 GMT
#2695
damd is probably the last mafia and kelsier is poisoner tbh
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October 12 2014 12:15 GMT
#2697
On October 12 2014 21:03 StorrZerg wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 12 2014 20:13 Holyflare wrote:
damd is probably the last mafia and kelsier is poisoner tbh


why damd? i thought you had super town read on him


poe bro who else could it be? unless my red check is actually kelsier being mafia
Holyflare
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October 12 2014 12:20 GMT
#2698
i think we should make a strawpoll to see who people think the poisoner/mafia is, legit scum hunting imo
Holyflare
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October 12 2014 13:04 GMT
#2704
On October 12 2014 21:45 Palmar wrote:
meh roleblocks don't get announced so nvm.

I don't think you're roleblocker


well i was pretty sure i was going to die tonight and it's silly that i'm not actually dead even if i was poisoner because a medic couldn't save me and if im a poisoner and hopeless supposedly called it out then i have no vest left either so in order to not shoot me they either went for a cop hunt on batsnacks which is very very likely or some weird kill on bh and the poisoner killed batsnacks.... which would be weird although logically a good kill because he's not a likely protect either way i thought i was dead so i left my honest role and actions, rber n1'd hopeless = told cop to not worry about frames, n2 i blocked kelsier so you can pretty much see tomorrow if a poisoner kill goes through
Holyflare
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October 12 2014 13:05 GMT
#2705
i didn't die because most probably i'm town reading the mafia which is likely damd or obi
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October 12 2014 13:54 GMT
#2707
who the fuck suspects me rofl
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October 12 2014 13:59 GMT
#2709
the only thing bh was doing was pushing you, unless you're mafia shooting bh wasn't a great shot because all he was going to do was push you today, batsnacks last few sentiments were if hopeless is mafia then damd is also mafia, yes i town read damd and maybe i'll stick to that but that leaves all these people that don't know wtf is going

then there's that post you made today which is really really bad if you're town because you say that one of the mafia shots is missing because one of the high profile people is MAFIA?!?!?!!?!?!? if a high profile player was mafia like you seem to conclude then not only would a shot not go into the high profile players like me/bh/palmar it would be aimed at a lower looking towny like grack, bats etc etc but the fact that the shot didn't go off implies that way way way more likely that a the high profile players are town and the medic saved them or palmar is a poisoner

i have no idea how you came to your conclusion, literally 0
Holyflare
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October 12 2014 14:01 GMT
#2710
there is no cop in this setup otherwise he would have claimed a million years ago therefore it's 100% obvious that there is a vet or a medic or a tracker (not likely just like cop) who was the likeliest to receive a medic save on n1? me obviously
Holyflare
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October 12 2014 14:02 GMT
#2712
so the fact that shitty palmar who hasn't played in this game properly at all comes in day 3 and says "oh mafia called him poisoner" but doesn't realise that it's more than likely i was protected shows that he has no real comprehension on how this game is running at all
Holyflare
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October 12 2014 14:03 GMT
#2713
On October 12 2014 23:01 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
I already suggested that Palmar was the poisoner. My giant post is that one of the high profile players is the poisoner.

I never called you mafia.

BH was universally townread.

I don't know what you're trying to say here.

With the knowledge that we now know that a mafia shot is missing, it's incredibly likely that there's a mafia inside of the high profile players who all normally take shots early.
Holyflare
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October 12 2014 14:06 GMT
#2715
it achieved nothing and you are pretty high up on the lists of possible mafia
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
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October 12 2014 14:08 GMT
#2717
there's literally no reason for me to be alive unless one of my town reads is mafia
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
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October 12 2014 14:11 GMT
#2718
you can't use this useless crap about people being suspicious about me if they only show that sentiment AFTER i'm not dead today either
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
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October 12 2014 14:15 GMT
#2720
i don't think anyone at all has called me poisoner in this game whatsoever apart from hopeless when i lynched him and after i didn't die tonight so there is absolutely no sentiment about it last night when mafia makes their nk's and bh dying is really really weird when he was one of the people off the hopeless wagon and that is where we were looking first so for me to not die means what i am saying is true
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
October 12 2014 14:18 GMT
#2721
i think kelsier has a very high chance of being poisoner because he got so VERY VERY defensive when i just about called him out as mafia but so defensive in a way that looked like he could prove he was town and had a towny thought process but defensive enough to be incredibly suspicious in that regard
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
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October 12 2014 14:20 GMT
#2722
but i also think he could be mafia too which is a paradoxical dilemma
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
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October 12 2014 14:24 GMT
#2725
well w/e it'll be pretty obvious in a mass claim what the situation is tbh
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
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October 12 2014 14:30 GMT
#2726
yeh probably don't think damd is mafia after all, hopeless filter is too harsh on him to be a bus since day 1 whereas his posts towards obi/kelsier/etc etc are really tame and all "what do you think of x" and comments to them rather than about them
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
October 12 2014 14:34 GMT
#2727

Hopeless has been null to me most of the game, however there are some things that make me uncomfortable about this lynch. hopeless was null to a lot of people and hf said he wasn't sure why he was reading him town, he was in the OO vote which is where I am sure a mafia lies. It could possibly be that he was framed.


like this post makes 100% no sense whatsoever
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
October 12 2014 14:34 GMT
#2728
(from kelsier)
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
October 12 2014 14:58 GMT
#2731
i didn't push anything and you keep saying it and have no actual proper reads other than obi which you fucked up
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
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October 12 2014 15:02 GMT
#2733
not until the last mafia or poisoner dies
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
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October 12 2014 15:07 GMT
#2736
hur hur qq more because you know i'm town
Holyflare
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October 12 2014 15:36 GMT
#2743
Well it does when you ignored the actual mafia
Holyflare
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October 12 2014 15:56 GMT
#2744
Prove to me why someone else is mafia, not damd.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
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October 12 2014 19:11 GMT
#2746
None of that helps finding who is mafia
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
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October 12 2014 19:24 GMT
#2748
Qqqqqqqqqqqqq
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
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October 12 2014 20:02 GMT
#2752
one of whom?
Holyflare
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October 12 2014 21:25 GMT
#2755
much slow
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
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October 12 2014 22:01 GMT
#2757
lynch the guy!
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
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October 13 2014 01:33 GMT
#2760
Well kelsier scum read obi all day and then ignored the kafia even when he believed i had a red check and then spent the past 48 hours doing nothing in the way of finding mafia only to say the towny we vig'd was throwing suspicion on him and also damd who i town read and he also town reads based on a day 1 wagon which is bs and wifom rather than actual gameplay. So really he's done nothing.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
October 13 2014 02:02 GMT
#2761
Nothing other than argue with obvious town me and the person he is forced to town read obi.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
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October 13 2014 02:03 GMT
#2762
On October 13 2014 10:08 Alakaslam wrote:
What you want me to do HF


Not really sure.... Talk to me about storr?
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
October 13 2014 12:21 GMT
#2769
On October 13 2014 21:10 Palmar wrote:
I don't like lynching KelsierSC, he cares way too much. damdred didn't even respond or mention at all that I wanted to lynch him. He's a much better lynch.


Go away
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
October 13 2014 12:23 GMT
#2770
Then come back and be useful
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
October 13 2014 13:57 GMT
#2773
On October 13 2014 21:43 Palmar wrote:
No, you. Did you read what Damdred has posted today?


Hopeless has pushed him since day 1 in a way that doesn't look bussy and damd has defended his thought processes pretty damn well
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
October 13 2014 14:12 GMT
#2775
i dont think obi is poisoner
Holyflare
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October 13 2014 14:13 GMT
#2776
although he could be for turning on my alignment so fast
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
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October 13 2014 14:18 GMT
#2778
all storr has done all game is push town liam and then fallen off completely, he could be poisoner too just for not thinking about anything in the game
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
October 13 2014 14:20 GMT
#2780
not sure about him being mafia tbh
Holyflare
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October 13 2014 14:25 GMT
#2782
so why do you think obi is up there over storr when he pushed mafia all day?
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
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October 13 2014 15:05 GMT
#2808
palmar thinks i'm poisoner because there's a kp missing in which case he DOESN'T believe i'm the rber in which case ITS EVEN MORE LIKELY THE MEDIC EXISTS AND SAVES ME

herp fucking derp, now slam is coming along and after I told him that nobody understood what he was posting and he should post more coherently and somehow expected me to understand a string of retarded images he posted night 1 WHICH i called him out for straight away at the start of day 2
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
October 13 2014 15:06 GMT
#2811
palmar is literally saying

"omg medic would never save the towniest person n1 so therefore mafia hitting the towniest person and that person not dying must mean that he's poisoner"
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
October 13 2014 15:07 GMT
#2812
On October 14 2014 00:06 Palmar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 14 2014 00:05 Holyflare wrote:
palmar thinks i'm poisoner because there's a kp missing in which case he DOESN'T believe i'm the rber in which case ITS EVEN MORE LIKELY THE MEDIC EXISTS AND SAVES ME

herp fucking derp, now slam is coming along and after I told him that nobody understood what he was posting and he should post more coherently and somehow expected me to understand a string of retarded images he posted night 1 WHICH i called him out for straight away at the start of day 2

Since when are you RBer?

did you roleblock someone useful? Grack would've been a good choice.

Also grack needs to do shit, he's essentially confirmed.


go read the game or fuck off, i literally claimed last night i blocked the framer hopeless n1 so any cop checks would be legitimate and then i blocked kelsier last night in case he was a gf or poisoner
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
October 13 2014 15:08 GMT
#2815
there's literally nothing that makes me poisoner other than being hit n1 and in that case you are saying town has absolutely 0 power roles at all
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
October 13 2014 15:09 GMT
#2817
On October 14 2014 00:08 Palmar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 14 2014 00:06 Holyflare wrote:
palmar is literally saying

"omg medic would never save the towniest person n1 so therefore mafia hitting the towniest person and that person not dying must mean that he's poisoner"

To be honest, if there is a medic, he might as well claim. I think it's worth it at this point.



ignore this post
ignore everything about this post
medic never claim now please
we should probably lynch palmar for this post
this post is terrible and only mafia/poisoner aligned
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
October 13 2014 15:10 GMT
#2818
On October 14 2014 00:08 Alakaslam wrote:
It is a complex, but understandable issue of math and probability.

HolyFlare can take a shot and was over-townie day one. He soaked a shot from scum, and poisoned BH. Night two who knows who he poisoned but scum took a shot and so did Grack. Scum did not shoot BH. The way I deduce this is reaction to my incessant, I would say obvious threats in anime form that I was poisoner (Yandere after Yandere; what else COULD that mean to someone who does in fact read my antics)

And I promise you HolyFlare does.

As reassurance, HolyFlare, at the moment I have ceased referencing the loo every time I say "Aluminium"

Did I spell that wrong?


if i thought you were poisoner then why did i ask if you were a martyr day 1 when you were posting your under the radar crap!?!?!?!?!?!??!
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
October 13 2014 15:11 GMT
#2819
i don't even know what yandere means -.-
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
October 13 2014 15:11 GMT
#2821
On October 14 2014 00:11 Palmar wrote:
Who have you roleblocked HF?


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Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
October 13 2014 15:12 GMT
#2823
On October 14 2014 00:07 Holyflare wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 14 2014 00:06 Palmar wrote:
On October 14 2014 00:05 Holyflare wrote:
palmar thinks i'm poisoner because there's a kp missing in which case he DOESN'T believe i'm the rber in which case ITS EVEN MORE LIKELY THE MEDIC EXISTS AND SAVES ME

herp fucking derp, now slam is coming along and after I told him that nobody understood what he was posting and he should post more coherently and somehow expected me to understand a string of retarded images he posted night 1 WHICH i called him out for straight away at the start of day 2

Since when are you RBer?

did you roleblock someone useful? Grack would've been a good choice.

Also grack needs to do shit, he's essentially confirmed.


go read the game or fuck off, i literally claimed last night i blocked the framer hopeless n1 so any cop checks would be legitimate and then i blocked kelsier last night in case he was a gf or poisoner

Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
October 13 2014 15:13 GMT
#2824
##unvote
##vote palmar


absolutely no way are you this awful and then try and get a medic to claim as town
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
October 13 2014 15:17 GMT
#2828
On October 14 2014 00:15 Alakaslam wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 14 2014 00:05 Holyflare wrote:
palmar thinks i'm poisoner because there's a kp missing in which case he DOESN'T believe i'm the rber in which case ITS EVEN MORE LIKELY THE MEDIC EXISTS AND SAVES ME

herp fucking derp, now slam is coming along and after I told him that nobody understood what he was posting and he should post more coherently and somehow expected me to understand a string of retarded images he posted night 1 WHICH i called him out for straight away at the start of day 2

That calling me out is largely the reason I think you were actually aware of their meaning.

Otherwise, why bother?

See, you are sitting on a fence. On one side is town behaviour, on the other, scum behaviour.

Town behaviour is to call me out even as I perform these antics; this you did not do.

Scum behaviour is to ignore me, or act just like town (scum is WIFOM). This you did not do!

Rather, you called me out during the day. In a convenient manner.


no i ignored all your images at the night as some retarded wifom and i actually assumed it was a medic claim because you said something about being friends in one of them so i completely ignored you because it's a waste of my time to even question you and then you posted your under the radar posts and pretty much claimed 3p, if i understood you were claiming poisoner (which nobody would ever do anyway) then why on earth would i jump to you being a martyr

the real answer is that i wouldn't and even then absolutely none of this makes me the poisoner at all
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
October 13 2014 15:18 GMT
#2829
On October 14 2014 00:17 Palmar wrote:
wait wtf HF, if you roleblocked Kelsier why the hell are you trying to lynch him? it literally confirms him not mafia with the night kills.


mafia kp is factional
he could be poisoner
there was no cop which was my intent to rb him in the first place in case there was
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
October 13 2014 15:21 GMT
#2833
On October 14 2014 00:18 Palmar wrote:
we're in fucking mylo, why the hell wouldn't a medic claim HF?


it's not mylo because it's 6v1v1 so even if we mislynch and 2kp goes off then its 3v1v1
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
October 13 2014 15:21 GMT
#2836
then there's a chance the poisoner hits mafia, or kelsier is the poisoner and i rb'd him or medic saves (which wouldn't happen if he revealed because that's an easy free kill)
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
October 13 2014 15:22 GMT
#2837
On October 14 2014 00:21 Palmar wrote:
This overreaction probably just means you know no one is actually going to claim a medic and save you HF. We're in mylo. If you weren't saved by a medic, we can not lose simply by lynching you. Like it's insane not to claim right now as medic.


you have no idea whatsoever is going on and you are literally saying we have 0 power roles
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
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October 13 2014 15:22 GMT
#2838
well 1*
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
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October 13 2014 15:30 GMT
#2846
i would have switched off hopeles yesterday and made a cluster fuck of the day today
Holyflare
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October 13 2014 15:40 GMT
#2859
On October 14 2014 00:37 Alakaslam wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 14 2014 00:21 Holyflare wrote:
then there's a chance the poisoner hits mafia, or kelsier is the poisoner and i rb'd him or medic saves (which wouldn't happen if he revealed because that's an easy free kill)

This smacks of desperation. Your story isn't straight, where does the third kill come from?


what...?
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
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October 13 2014 15:41 GMT
#2861
we have power roles jesus fuck you are useless
Holyflare
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October 13 2014 15:55 GMT
#2883
On October 14 2014 00:54 Palmar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 14 2014 00:53 KelsierSC wrote:
Why is hf poisoner, because he didn't die n1? Sorry i cabt really backtrack the thread atn.

Because hopeless said so. Hopeless has no reason to lie there, it is almost 100% likely mafia hit holyflare on n1.

So my guess is hopeless got mad that hf rekt him and claimed in spite.


............... "no medic but hf's rb claim is a lie! we have no power roles!!!"
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
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October 13 2014 16:05 GMT
#2895
On October 14 2014 01:01 Palmar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 14 2014 00:58 KelsierSC wrote:
Sorry palmar, you want to lynch hf on the basis that mafia said he was 3p

and because he reacted to you asking for medic.

you said hf was actually really towny.


but lynching storr or slam is too risky.

I'm trying to understand this but


I don't get what you don't understand. Do you think it's a bad idea for a medic who may have been on HF on night 1 to claim?


absolutely because not only is that fucking retarded when he could save us and win the game instead of being at mylo tomorrow but killing me as a claimed rb'er who has done nothing but kill mafia would be absolutely retarded, instead of all this arguing why don't you tell us who mafia is and it's not damdred who was pushed by mafia all game long
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
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October 13 2014 16:09 GMT
#2902
On October 14 2014 01:05 Palmar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 14 2014 01:01 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
On October 14 2014 00:56 Palmar wrote:
On October 14 2014 00:52 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
On October 14 2014 00:51 Alakaslam wrote:
On October 14 2014 00:50 KelsierSC wrote:
So why is hf a better lynch ? Because he might be poisoner?

In fact because in all likelihood he is.

Only one thing that can convince me otherwise; a medic claim that unfortunately I also believe shouldn't happen.


We are not lynching Holyflare. Get this through your fucking head and find a new lynch target.

Why not?


Because I think he's town and I've given all of the reasons as to why this is. We are not lynching him because "3p looks town so HF might be scum for looking town."


Not why I'm lynching him. That simply explains how it adds up that someone can look town and yet not be town. I want to lynch him because there's no evidence we have a medic, because he completely overreacted to me suggesting a medic should claim and save his ass (like even if it's not the smartest move, we're basically going to treat him as town if he was indeed protected), and because mafia basically claimed to have shot him night 1.


Show nested quote +
On October 14 2014 01:01 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
Holyflare is not the poisoner and he most certainly isn't mafia. I am not lynching him and anyone voting him is claiming scum.

I am going to work. I will be back a few hours before deadline.


Anyone voting him is claiming having a brain. Like there's two people voting him right now and we can't both be scum? So your theory is already awful.


if you say it's mylo why do you want the MEDIC to claim instead of just any other blue that would confirm that no medic probably exists, is it because you know there's a medic alive and you want him to be sniped? if i'm shot n1 and poisoner i lose my vest, if mafia know im poisoner like you apparently somehow think they do why didn't they soot me yesterday!!?!? it's because it's a giant pile of wifom crap you are trying to push and useless and i haven't played like a poisoner at all and you haven't even read the game to know that

here i am pushing kelsier who actually probably adds up to being mafia or poisoner and you're trying to divert it off of him because "no he looks to town" and onto me because "hf looks too town and mafia said he's poisoner", ...........???
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
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October 13 2014 16:12 GMT
#2907
i can also rb poisoners so that kills dont go off for them but not mafia kills
Holyflare
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October 13 2014 16:12 GMT
#2908
so it's our best interest to find mafia today
Holyflare
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October 13 2014 16:13 GMT
#2911
On October 14 2014 01:13 KelsierSC wrote:
Ok people asked for my reads and in formulating them


shouldn't you have already got a general idea the moment hopeless flipped mafia..?
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
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October 13 2014 16:20 GMT
#2921
On October 14 2014 01:18 Palmar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 14 2014 01:09 Holyflare wrote:
On October 14 2014 01:05 Palmar wrote:
On October 14 2014 01:01 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
On October 14 2014 00:56 Palmar wrote:
On October 14 2014 00:52 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
On October 14 2014 00:51 Alakaslam wrote:
On October 14 2014 00:50 KelsierSC wrote:
So why is hf a better lynch ? Because he might be poisoner?

In fact because in all likelihood he is.

Only one thing that can convince me otherwise; a medic claim that unfortunately I also believe shouldn't happen.


We are not lynching Holyflare. Get this through your fucking head and find a new lynch target.

Why not?


Because I think he's town and I've given all of the reasons as to why this is. We are not lynching him because "3p looks town so HF might be scum for looking town."


Not why I'm lynching him. That simply explains how it adds up that someone can look town and yet not be town. I want to lynch him because there's no evidence we have a medic, because he completely overreacted to me suggesting a medic should claim and save his ass (like even if it's not the smartest move, we're basically going to treat him as town if he was indeed protected), and because mafia basically claimed to have shot him night 1.


On October 14 2014 01:01 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
Holyflare is not the poisoner and he most certainly isn't mafia. I am not lynching him and anyone voting him is claiming scum.

I am going to work. I will be back a few hours before deadline.


Anyone voting him is claiming having a brain. Like there's two people voting him right now and we can't both be scum? So your theory is already awful.


if you say it's mylo why do you want the MEDIC to claim instead of just any other blue that would confirm that no medic probably exists, is it because you know there's a medic alive and you want him to be sniped?


I'm more than ok with any blue claims today. It's mylo, I already explained

Show nested quote +
On October 14 2014 01:09 Holyflare wrote:
if i'm shot n1 and poisoner i lose my vest, if mafia know im poisoner like you apparently somehow think they do why didn't they soot me yesterday!!?!? it's because it's a giant pile of wifom crap you are trying to push and useless and i haven't played like a poisoner at all and you haven't even read the game to know that


This is obviously bullshit. Mafia 100% thinks you're the poisoner, or at least that you could be poisoner. If they were sure you're town, they would've used the chance to shoot you last night because if they think you're a townie with medic protection, you couldn't have been saved that night and that window would be great for shooting you. Maybe they like the fact you can kill townies for them, who knows?

Show nested quote +
On October 14 2014 01:09 Holyflare wrote:
here i am pushing kelsier who actually probably adds up to being mafia or poisoner and you're trying to divert it off of him because "no he looks to town" and onto me because "hf looks too town and mafia said he's poisoner", ...........???


Accusing me of not reading the game while calling Kelsier scum is like.... so bad. Like he is genuinely trying to understand things here. He's very much town.





He believed I had a red check on mafia
He ignored the believed red check and called it a frame
He ignored the mafia hopeless entirely for all of the day he was pushed
He pushed most probable town obiwanshinobi over hopeless even though he said hopeless was scummy
He got very irrate the moment he got any form of accusation on him despite pushing towny obiwanshinobi
He's probably poisoner if anything
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
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October 13 2014 16:22 GMT
#2925
On October 14 2014 01:21 Alakaslam wrote:
Crap. I think HF and palmar are both right mind fry ughhhh


how can we both be right when we are pushing different things...?
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
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October 13 2014 16:22 GMT
#2927
Palmar

Not played all game [✔]
Pushes mafia agenda the moment he comes back [✔]
Wants to kill top town [✔]
Tried to get medic to claim [✔]
Tries to kill Holyflare but then says he should get a 100% pass??? [✔]

Town Palmar? [X]
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
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October 13 2014 16:28 GMT
#2934
On October 14 2014 01:23 Palmar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 14 2014 01:20 Holyflare wrote:
He believed I had a red check on mafia
He ignored the believed red check and called it a frame
He ignored the mafia hopeless entirely for all of the day he was pushed
He pushed most probable town obiwanshinobi over hopeless even though he said hopeless was scummy
He got very irrate the moment he got any form of accusation on him despite pushing towny obiwanshinobi


5 reasons he's mafia (and mafia specifically)

Show nested quote +
On October 14 2014 01:20 Holyflare wrote:
He's probably poisoner if anything


So clearly he's poisoner?

HF, you ok?


the way he got irrate at me and fought me calling him scummy looked very much like he was "able to show how towny" he had been but it was in such a weird way that it looked much more like a poisoner than mafia, pushing townies over mafia is easily poisoner agenda number 1
Holyflare
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October 13 2014 16:30 GMT
#2939
On October 14 2014 01:29 Palmar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 14 2014 01:28 Holyflare wrote:
On October 14 2014 01:23 Palmar wrote:
On October 14 2014 01:20 Holyflare wrote:
He believed I had a red check on mafia
He ignored the believed red check and called it a frame
He ignored the mafia hopeless entirely for all of the day he was pushed
He pushed most probable town obiwanshinobi over hopeless even though he said hopeless was scummy
He got very irrate the moment he got any form of accusation on him despite pushing towny obiwanshinobi


5 reasons he's mafia (and mafia specifically)

On October 14 2014 01:20 Holyflare wrote:
He's probably poisoner if anything


So clearly he's poisoner?

HF, you ok?


the way he got irrate at me and fought me calling him scummy looked very much like he was "able to show how towny" he had been but it was in such a weird way that it looked much more like a poisoner than mafia, pushing townies over mafia is easily poisoner agenda number 1

So if I think he's town you're clearly poisoner!

CHECKMATE.


that doesn't make any sense whatsoever?
Holyflare
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October 13 2014 16:31 GMT
#2941
On October 14 2014 01:29 Palmar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 14 2014 01:22 Holyflare wrote:
Tries to kill Holyflare but then says he should get a 100% pass??? [✔]


You have a problem with that? Like if the magical medic appears and claims to have protected you night 1, should I then instead start thinking you're mafia?

If it isn't likely you're poisoner, there is literally 0% chance you're scum.


the medic is absolutely not claiming and i don't care if it makes me look terrible, he can claim tomorrow if i am still alive
Holyflare
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October 13 2014 16:32 GMT
#2943
On October 14 2014 01:32 Palmar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 14 2014 01:30 Holyflare wrote:
On October 14 2014 01:29 Palmar wrote:
On October 14 2014 01:28 Holyflare wrote:
On October 14 2014 01:23 Palmar wrote:
On October 14 2014 01:20 Holyflare wrote:
He believed I had a red check on mafia
He ignored the believed red check and called it a frame
He ignored the mafia hopeless entirely for all of the day he was pushed
He pushed most probable town obiwanshinobi over hopeless even though he said hopeless was scummy
He got very irrate the moment he got any form of accusation on him despite pushing towny obiwanshinobi


5 reasons he's mafia (and mafia specifically)

On October 14 2014 01:20 Holyflare wrote:
He's probably poisoner if anything


So clearly he's poisoner?

HF, you ok?


the way he got irrate at me and fought me calling him scummy looked very much like he was "able to show how towny" he had been but it was in such a weird way that it looked much more like a poisoner than mafia, pushing townies over mafia is easily poisoner agenda number 1

So if I think he's town you're clearly poisoner!

CHECKMATE.


that doesn't make any sense whatsoever?


...

Show nested quote +
pushing townies over mafia is easily poisoner agenda number 1


If he's town, you're pushing poisoner agenda.


after killing 2 mafia in a row, yeh much logic
Holyflare
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October 13 2014 16:40 GMT
#2950
On October 14 2014 01:37 Alakaslam wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 14 2014 01:31 Holyflare wrote:
On October 14 2014 01:29 Palmar wrote:
On October 14 2014 01:22 Holyflare wrote:
Tries to kill Holyflare but then says he should get a 100% pass??? [✔]


You have a problem with that? Like if the magical medic appears and claims to have protected you night 1, should I then instead start thinking you're mafia?

If it isn't likely you're poisoner, there is literally 0% chance you're scum.


the medic is absolutely not claiming and i don't care if it makes me look terrible, he can claim tomorrow if i am still alive

Every time I read this is lol because the likelihood of no medic is so strong


im the un cc'd hard claimed town roleblocker, if you believe i'm the poisoner then not only are there ~2 town roles unaccounted for cop/medic/vet/tracker/rber (probably no cop or tracker because they would have listened to me and actually done useful things) but that also means that in your world town only has a vig and a vet and ?????? against a mafia with a framer a rber and a poisoner + w/e mafia role is left that is not likely whatsoever

if there was another town rber he could instantly cc me
Holyflare
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October 13 2014 16:42 GMT
#2951
a vig vet and medic is far too strong for town so the only likely sceneraio would be a vig a vet and a roleblocker, oh look it's me
Holyflare
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October 13 2014 16:45 GMT
#2954
On October 14 2014 01:43 Alakaslam wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 14 2014 01:40 Holyflare wrote:
On October 14 2014 01:37 Alakaslam wrote:
On October 14 2014 01:31 Holyflare wrote:
On October 14 2014 01:29 Palmar wrote:
On October 14 2014 01:22 Holyflare wrote:
Tries to kill Holyflare but then says he should get a 100% pass??? [✔]


You have a problem with that? Like if the magical medic appears and claims to have protected you night 1, should I then instead start thinking you're mafia?

If it isn't likely you're poisoner, there is literally 0% chance you're scum.


the medic is absolutely not claiming and i don't care if it makes me look terrible, he can claim tomorrow if i am still alive

Every time I read this is lol because the likelihood of no medic is so strong


im the un cc'd hard claimed town roleblocker, if you believe i'm the poisoner then not only are there ~2 town roles unaccounted for cop/medic/vet/tracker/rber (probably no cop or tracker because they would have listened to me and actually done useful things) but that also means that in your world town only has a vig and a vet and ?????? against a mafia with a framer a rber and a poisoner + w/e mafia role is left that is not likely whatsoever

if there was another town rber he could instantly cc me

I almost asked palmar if maybe this overturned but I remembered you claimed everything.


no it's quite simple, i claimed vig shooting at bh so mafia wouldn't waste a shot on bh because they think i'm getting him so in essence i saved bh, I claimed a cop to try and get as much information as possible out of hopeless and his mafia buddies but i didn't even really claim cop because i kept saying it wasn't a red check and i hard claimed rber with my actions so that a cop could know that nobody was framed n1 and that n2 i rb'd kelsier

it's quite straight forward
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
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October 13 2014 16:47 GMT
#2955
and hey look mafia almost definitely shot me so my actions were nothing but good
Holyflare
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October 13 2014 16:48 GMT
#2956
which debunks palmars argument entirely because if mafia thought i was poisoner instead of medic saved they would have shot me last night, the real truth is they don't know wtf i am or whether there is a medic or whether i was medic saved on top of being a poisoner
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
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October 13 2014 16:50 GMT
#2957
On October 14 2014 01:44 Alakaslam wrote:
Also poisoner can hit mafia, it isn't anti town balance.


town almost always has mafia roles + 1, with another anti town faction/player in the mix they most definitely have 3+
Holyflare
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October 13 2014 16:53 GMT
#2961
On October 14 2014 01:53 Alakaslam wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 14 2014 01:48 Holyflare wrote:
which debunks palmars argument entirely because if mafia thought i was poisoner instead of medic saved they would have shot me last night, the real truth is they don't know wtf i am or whether there is a medic or whether i was medic saved on top of being a poisoner

No, your story still just reminds me of how likely right he is.

Why did you know so fast that "medic saved you"?

I think you knew you had been shot


because i was trying to fake a vet claim and i didn't think a medic would save anyone else
Holyflare
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October 13 2014 16:54 GMT
#2962
On October 14 2014 01:53 Holyflare wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 14 2014 01:53 Alakaslam wrote:
On October 14 2014 01:48 Holyflare wrote:
which debunks palmars argument entirely because if mafia thought i was poisoner instead of medic saved they would have shot me last night, the real truth is they don't know wtf i am or whether there is a medic or whether i was medic saved on top of being a poisoner

No, your story still just reminds me of how likely right he is.

Why did you know so fast that "medic saved you"?

I think you knew you had been shot


because i was trying to fake a vet claim and i didn't think a medic would save anyone else


i've tried to claim as many roles as possible this game if you haven't noticed
Holyflare
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October 13 2014 16:55 GMT
#2964
On October 14 2014 01:54 Alakaslam wrote:
Again HF you messed up

What kind of town has a scumread on kelsier and yet omguses palmar instead


me
Holyflare
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October 13 2014 16:59 GMT
#2965
On October 14 2014 01:54 Alakaslam wrote:
Again HF you messed up

What kind of town has a scumread on kelsier and yet omguses palmar instead


Also i think palmar is mafia and kelsier poisoner. It's not a omgus it's a omg you can't suck this bad as town and want a medic to claim when you don't even want to lynch the poisoner who you think is me today even though your vote is on me. His only mafia read is damd and damd was pushed by mafia d1 onwards
Holyflare
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October 13 2014 17:13 GMT
#2968
He quite clearly wouldn't be pushing me as poisoner if he was
Holyflare
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October 13 2014 17:19 GMT
#2973
Meh yeh i probably wouldn't have vigged him if i was around
Holyflare
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October 13 2014 17:33 GMT
#2977
Oh snaaap?
Holyflare
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October 13 2014 17:35 GMT
#2980
Storr claiming that vet role
Holyflare
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October 13 2014 17:45 GMT
#2987
On October 14 2014 02:40 StorrZerg wrote:
Logical
no claim on anything.

Bh was shot n1


.....?
Holyflare
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October 13 2014 17:56 GMT
#2994
On October 14 2014 02:48 Damdred wrote:
I think storr is claiming medic, he saved BH and bats was poisoned maybe?

On October 14 2014 02:52 Damdred wrote:
Yep and it casts out my theory that obi=poisoner and poisoned BH n1.


think you may actually be mafia for these 2 posts because he could still have poisoned bh and mafia killed batsnacks because he was onto something
Holyflare
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October 13 2014 17:58 GMT
#2995
if there's a vet that took a bullet or another medic you should absolutely cc this storr claim btw
Holyflare
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October 13 2014 18:00 GMT
#2998
On October 14 2014 02:58 Holyflare wrote:
if there's a vet that took a bullet or another medic you should absolutely cc this storr claim btw


ignore this now
Holyflare
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October 13 2014 18:02 GMT
#3000
fuck this probably actually now makes damd 100% mafia though if bh was shot for telling me that im going to die
Holyflare
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October 13 2014 18:05 GMT
#3004
On October 14 2014 03:02 Holyflare wrote:
fuck this probably actually now makes damd 100% mafia though if bh was shot for telling me that im going to die


reasoning being:

every towny in the game thinks that i got shot n1 or was poisoner, therefore on n3 it is very likely that i would get saved again and not actually die

damd rolls up and tells me that im probably going to die tonight, he also switches off obi as soon as storr says something that looked like a medic claim on bh save saying that obi couldn't have poisoned bh even though he actually very likely could have (bh wouldn't have been a bad poison target)
Holyflare
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October 13 2014 19:39 GMT
#3028
On October 14 2014 04:26 StorrZerg wrote:
@hf colorful votes plz and ty

????
Holyflare
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October 13 2014 19:40 GMT
#3029
i also mentioned your entire wall of text like right at the start of the day :O
Holyflare
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October 13 2014 19:40 GMT
#3030
obi could actually have slipped that he's mafia
Holyflare
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October 13 2014 19:44 GMT
#3032
ehh maybe not i dunno, still think that damdred saying that i will die tonight is really really fucking weird
Holyflare
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October 13 2014 19:45 GMT
#3033
like he "knew" bh was protected n1 already
Holyflare
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October 13 2014 19:47 GMT
#3035
On October 14 2014 04:45 Damdred wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 14 2014 04:44 Holyflare wrote:
ehh maybe not i dunno, still think that damdred saying that i will die tonight is really really fucking weird


You are hf though trying to figure out the game, theres a good chance poisoner might of got you last night so you didn't get past today, or that mafia kills you since you are a rb. Still don't know if theirs a medic so maybe not


if everyone has been under the assumption, and quite clearly everyone was (even palmar who hasn't been playing) that i was a poisoner maybe and that i was healed n1 then tomorrow is n3 so the medic could heal me again

you are the only person that has said that i am likely to die tonight and the only one that would know i wasn't healed n1 and bh was is mafia
Holyflare
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October 13 2014 19:49 GMT
#3037
if kelsier IS the poisoner btw we'll know tomorrow
Holyflare
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October 13 2014 19:52 GMT
#3038
On October 14 2014 04:49 Damdred wrote:
I had a question mark after that storr made it seem like he knew bh was protected so yea came off as bad for me maybe


ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh this is a lie A LIE A LIE A LIE omggggg you are really mafia

T_T

storr said all that crap AFTER you said that i was likely to die tonight!!!!

##unvote
##vote damdred
Holyflare
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October 13 2014 19:53 GMT
#3040
On October 14 2014 04:53 StorrZerg wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 14 2014 04:40 Holyflare wrote:
obi could actually have slipped that he's mafia


what do you mean?


nvm about that
Holyflare
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October 13 2014 19:59 GMT
#3042
i've done some shenanigans on kelsier so i'll know tomorrow after we lynched mafia damdred
Holyflare
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October 13 2014 20:02 GMT
#3043
I've totally redchecked damd, there's no changing ever. EVER.
Holyflare
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October 13 2014 20:04 GMT
#3045
Gotta be wrong about one person this game i guess
Holyflare
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October 13 2014 20:07 GMT
#3047
Doesn't matter we lynch damdred. He is confirmed not town.
Holyflare
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October 13 2014 20:10 GMT
#3049
Damd is mafia storr. It explains why hopeless stuck to his dand mafia read with such a shit case.
Holyflare
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October 13 2014 20:15 GMT
#3051
On October 14 2014 05:14 StorrZerg wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 14 2014 05:10 Holyflare wrote:
Damd is mafia storr. It explains why hopeless stuck to his dand mafia read with such a shit case.


unless damd was shot n1 (idk why) and they know he is either psn or medic save and wanted to see information based on that push.

if damd is mafia its less likely kel is psner.


not really at all but w/e
Holyflare
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October 13 2014 20:33 GMT
#3056
On October 14 2014 05:31 StorrZerg wrote:
i still think kel is higher chance of being mafia. damd really looks like psner in my eyes.



this doesn't make sense at all seeing as he lied about knowing the MAFIA kills
Holyflare
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October 13 2014 20:37 GMT
#3058
literally what i wrote just on the last page!?!? he said i was going to die tonight despite palmar and everyone pushing that i was poisoner who was SHOT n1, if he thought this wasn't the case (that i was poisoner) he must have thought there was a medic in which case i wouldn't be dying tonight anyway

you then posted about the bh thing and when i called him out on being overcertain and knowing what you said was true he used you posting about the bh thing as justification of his previous thing about me dying despite that occurring AFTER.
Holyflare
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October 13 2014 20:56 GMT
#3060
On October 14 2014 05:47 StorrZerg wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 14 2014 05:37 Holyflare wrote:
literally what i wrote just on the last page!?!? he said i was going to die tonight despite palmar and everyone pushing that i was poisoner who was SHOT n1, if he thought this wasn't the case (that i was poisoner) he must have thought there was a medic in which case i wouldn't be dying tonight anyway

you then posted about the bh thing and when i called him out on being overcertain and knowing what you said was true he used you posting about the bh thing as justification of his previous thing about me dying despite that occurring AFTER.




i can agree on the bold stuff.

i don't think what he said about you dieing is that bad. it is likely you will die tonight, you have been very active, pushing town in the right direction etc, its not a far thing to suspect.



if he DISAGREED that i was the poisoner then he was agreeing that I would be protected by the medic. The thing is that he's saying there IS a medic and that medic protected me on n1, so why on earth would the medic not protect me n3!?
Holyflare
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October 13 2014 20:56 GMT
#3061
On October 14 2014 05:56 Holyflare wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 14 2014 05:47 StorrZerg wrote:
On October 14 2014 05:37 Holyflare wrote:
literally what i wrote just on the last page!?!? he said i was going to die tonight despite palmar and everyone pushing that i was poisoner who was SHOT n1, if he thought this wasn't the case (that i was poisoner) he must have thought there was a medic in which case i wouldn't be dying tonight anyway

you then posted about the bh thing and when i called him out on being overcertain and knowing what you said was true he used you posting about the bh thing as justification of his previous thing about me dying despite that occurring AFTER.




i can agree on the bold stuff.

i don't think what he said about you dieing is that bad. it is likely you will die tonight, you have been very active, pushing town in the right direction etc, its not a far thing to suspect.



if he DISAGREED that i was the poisoner then he was agreeing that I would be protected by the medic. The thing is that he's saying there IS a medic and that medic protected me on n1, so why on earth would the medic not protect me n3!?


unless he knew bh was shot instead which he was all too quick to agree with
Holyflare
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October 13 2014 21:07 GMT
#3065
On October 14 2014 06:04 StorrZerg wrote:
@hf what happened to the super strong town read on damd you had when hopeless pushed on him?


clearly it's disappeared what kind of question is that
Holyflare
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October 13 2014 21:19 GMT
#3067
On October 14 2014 06:16 KelsierSC wrote:
The one thing I am trying to wrap my head around is if dam is poisoner, why would anyone shoot him n1?


wtf are you talking about!?!??!?!
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
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October 13 2014 21:24 GMT
#3069
On October 14 2014 06:20 KelsierSC wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 14 2014 06:19 Holyflare wrote:
On October 14 2014 06:16 KelsierSC wrote:
The one thing I am trying to wrap my head around is if dam is poisoner, why would anyone shoot him n1?


wtf are you talking about!?!??!?!


there was only one kill n1, so poisoner was shot right.

we dont have medic


we do have a medic...........................
Holyflare
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October 13 2014 21:25 GMT
#3070
well we don't KNOW we have a medic but it's very very likely we do have a medic and they saved bh
Holyflare
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October 13 2014 21:29 GMT
#3073
On October 14 2014 06:25 KelsierSC wrote:
why is it more likely there is a medic than mafia shot poisoner?


"i cant wrap my head around mafia shooting poisoner damdred"
"why is it more likely a medic saved bh than shot the poisoner?"


????
Holyflare
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October 13 2014 21:30 GMT
#3076
On October 14 2014 06:30 Damdred wrote:
i'm really tempted just to peace out and laugh when i flip vanillia. Your the strongest player left hf and most likely to either of gotten poisoned last night or nk targeted tonight, you pushed the most likely to be mafia so whatever.


huh??
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
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October 13 2014 21:36 GMT
#3080
yes slam has tried to jump onto every single wagon that is going
Holyflare
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October 13 2014 21:39 GMT
#3084
On October 14 2014 06:38 KelsierSC wrote:
So here is my thoughts right now about poisoner.

Say mafia shoots poisoner last night.

Firstly mafia has to hope he doesn't get vigi shot, and then with only 1 kp he has to get like 3 ML's. Is my math right on that?
Either way it is possible that mafia member needs to preserve 2 KP.



just focus on who is mafia/poisoner and if you are poisoner just focus on who is mafia because you have already lost because i rb'd you
Holyflare
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October 13 2014 21:46 GMT
#3089
i know who medic is i think
Holyflare
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October 13 2014 21:48 GMT
#3091
On October 14 2014 06:47 Damdred wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 14 2014 06:32 StorrZerg wrote:
On October 14 2014 06:30 Damdred wrote:
i'm really tempted just to peace out and laugh when i flip vanillia. Your the strongest player left hf and most likely to either of gotten poisoned last night or nk targeted tonight, you pushed the most likely to be mafia so whatever.


fantastic don't fight to live. don't help us figure out the game


Its great trying to figure out something when everything that you say is followed with you lie lie lie lie lie lie. Isn't it?


are you saying its not a lie!?
Holyflare
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October 13 2014 21:53 GMT
#3096
yes it does hence why i wouldnt die to anything tonight unless double stack
Holyflare
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October 13 2014 22:06 GMT
#3099
On October 14 2014 07:02 StorrZerg wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 14 2014 06:53 Holyflare wrote:
yes it does hence why i wouldnt die to anything tonight unless double stack


this is only the case if you didnt get saved last night.

Considering all things, its likely you could have been saved last night, and didn't get saved n1.


and only damd would know that if he was mafia hence why it looks so bad when he said that and covered it up with a lie....
Holyflare
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October 13 2014 22:19 GMT
#3103
fight!?!??!?!
Holyflare
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October 13 2014 22:20 GMT
#3104
explain your lie, why did you use an event that happened after your post to justify your post??
Holyflare
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October 13 2014 22:22 GMT
#3107
On October 14 2014 07:20 KelsierSC wrote:
I just think dam has been much more active and put his thoughts out there much more so than palmer.

Palmer has been , overall, pretty lurky and disinterested

today his main goal has been to lynch hf, who is the top town. and then as soon as hf starts accusing dam he immediately switches over to him for a really lackluster reason.

not happy with palmer at all.

on a slam = mafia, palmar = psn right now.


He does that as town too
Holyflare
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October 13 2014 22:26 GMT
#3109
On October 14 2014 07:23 Damdred wrote:
I don't think I lied, or if I did it wasn't intentional or I forgot the sequence of events.

Overall, I think you are the one likely to die tonight, or more likely to die tonight especially since you caught mafia and are universally townread mostly.



If this is the case then why did you just write a post about how you want to afk and flip vanilla and how awesome it would be???
Holyflare
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October 13 2014 23:19 GMT
#3114
i'm just waiting till palmar goes to bed so we can switch to him
Holyflare
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October 13 2014 23:24 GMT
#3115
just kidding damd is still red
Holyflare
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October 13 2014 23:26 GMT
#3118
ty for giving me the possibility of staying alive palmar
Holyflare
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October 14 2014 00:08 GMT
#3136
On October 14 2014 09:06 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
I don't understand the Damdred case.


I'll break it down really simply for you and slam will do some qq about paraphrasing:

1. We all assumed that I was shot n1 so in every townies mind I was healed n1 so logically I should be healed tonight too.
2. Damdred goes and says hf is likely to die tonight, at this stage im like wtf why?
3. Storr busts out with some knowledge saying that actually it was likely bh was shot n1 and then mafia killed him tonight cz of that.
4. Damd agrees and then drops everything he was saying before really quickly
5. I say why did damd say i'd die if he was under the impression i was town/not poisoner/healed n1
6. Damd uses point 3 as reason even though he said it at point 2.
Holyflare
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October 14 2014 00:10 GMT
#3137
On October 14 2014 09:08 Holyflare wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 14 2014 09:06 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
I don't understand the Damdred case.


I'll break it down really simply for you and slam will do some qq about paraphrasing:

1. We all assumed that I was shot n1 so in every townies mind I was healed n1 so logically I should be healed tonight too.
2. Damdred goes and says hf is likely to die tonight, at this stage im like wtf why?
3. Storr busts out with some knowledge saying that actually it was likely bh was shot n1 and then mafia killed him tonight cz of that.
4. Damd agrees and then drops everything he was saying before really quickly
5. I say why did damd say i'd die if he was under the impression i was town/not poisoner/healed n1
6. Damd uses point 3 as reason even though he said it at point 2.


at this point damd says rofl i quit you'll love it when i flip vanilla and then leaves and then returns with some excuse about misremembering a bit later and giving a super generic read saying that scum probably is in the people that aren't confirmed town and kelsier/obi
Holyflare
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October 14 2014 00:11 GMT
#3139
now if the medic wants to say bh was actually saved that pretty much confirms damd as mafia to meeee
Holyflare
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October 14 2014 00:11 GMT
#3140
On October 14 2014 09:11 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
I don't get it.


hush now, sleeeeep
Holyflare
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October 14 2014 00:12 GMT
#3143
On October 14 2014 09:12 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
I see the words and everything.

I don't see how he's scum though?


mafia probably shot bh because he was shot n1 and they know he can't be protected again
Holyflare
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October 14 2014 00:13 GMT
#3145
On October 14 2014 09:13 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
Also, if the medic just wants to flat out claim at this point that would be great.

If we even have one.

I'm assuming we don't even have one at this point because medic would've claimed and turned this discussion around several pages ago.


you shouldn't claim
Holyflare
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October 14 2014 00:14 GMT
#3148
he shouldn't claim*
Holyflare
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October 14 2014 00:15 GMT
#3150
kelsier is poisoner if there is no medic btw, you can thank me tomorrow when no kill goes through
Holyflare
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October 14 2014 00:16 GMT
#3152
mafia don't know there's no medic, mafia thinks i get healed, mafia thinks im shooting bh, mafia shoots someone looking towny
Holyflare
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October 14 2014 00:17 GMT
#3155
why wouldn't he get shot n1? he's pretty towny d1
Holyflare
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October 14 2014 00:18 GMT
#3156
On October 14 2014 09:17 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 14 2014 09:16 Holyflare wrote:
mafia don't know there's no medic, mafia thinks i get healed, mafia thinks im shooting bh, mafia shoots someone looking towny


Grack shot Oats.


you are a fuck wit jesus christ
I CALLED HIM POISONER
YA KNOW THAT GUY WITH A VEST
Holyflare
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October 14 2014 00:18 GMT
#3158
then who looked towny to you day 1 then bro?
Holyflare
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October 14 2014 00:21 GMT
#3162
On October 14 2014 09:21 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 14 2014 09:18 Holyflare wrote:
then who looked towny to you day 1 then bro?


I don't shoot people who look towny. I shoot threats.

Palmar is a threat. BH is a threat. You are a threat. Kelsier didn't/doesn't fall under that category. This is why I think what I think.

If we're talking about towny shots, then I really don't know. Normally I don't shoot people who just look towny.


you should shoot people that look towny because those are your mislynches that you can't push, pro tip
Holyflare
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October 14 2014 00:22 GMT
#3163
i dunno i think slam could be a good mafia candidate, really don't like damds complete lack of reads and then just leaving the thread though
Holyflare
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October 14 2014 00:23 GMT
#3165
ya
Holyflare
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October 14 2014 00:25 GMT
#3166
urgh i cant be fucked to work things out either
Holyflare
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October 14 2014 00:26 GMT
#3169
if kelsier is poisoner he straight up just gets lynched tomorrow if a kill doesn't go through so would he really play it out like this and be a dick when he's pretty much lost the game?
Holyflare
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October 14 2014 00:26 GMT
#3171
On October 14 2014 09:26 KelsierSC wrote:
nah i'm town.



why didn't you just tell me this before jeez
Holyflare
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October 14 2014 00:27 GMT
#3174
On October 14 2014 09:27 StorrZerg wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 14 2014 09:26 Holyflare wrote:
if kelsier is poisoner he straight up just gets lynched tomorrow if a kill doesn't go through so would he really play it out like this and be a dick when he's pretty much lost the game?


still could have a medic save


he still gets lynched
Holyflare
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October 14 2014 00:30 GMT
#3177
On October 14 2014 09:29 KelsierSC wrote:
I don't see why dam has been scummier than slam or palmar at this point.



you think it's really towny to just qq and leave the thread or do what you did day 2?
Holyflare
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October 14 2014 00:32 GMT
#3179
On October 14 2014 09:31 KelsierSC wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 14 2014 09:30 Holyflare wrote:
On October 14 2014 09:29 KelsierSC wrote:
I don't see why dam has been scummier than slam or palmar at this point.



you think it's really towny to just qq and leave the thread or do what you did day 2?


my d2 was incredibly towny , just my vote was wrong.

dam did qq but then came back to the thread and he has been actively figuring out the game.

plus all the things i wrote about bs kind of make me think palmar is psnr not dam.
dam is not mafia tbh based on votes.


where is he solving the game? he's posted 2 lines of poe based on todays play and that's it afaik
and there's only 4 votes on him and there's only 1 mafia??? that's a really weird thing to say
Holyflare
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October 14 2014 00:34 GMT
#3181
On October 14 2014 09:33 KelsierSC wrote:
the votes from d1 and d2 not the votes today.


hasn't he been like the last vote on every wagon and didn't even hammer them so in fact it's even more suspicious?
Holyflare
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October 14 2014 00:35 GMT
#3182
that leaves storr/palmar/damd/obi/slam

palmar only really stepping it up today after 2 mafia have been lynched is really fucking bad/scummy of him and it's sad if he's actually town but he probably should be lynched as a likely poisoner hit n1 and i did keep saying he was probably 3p earlier

slam is jumping on every wagon ever made no matter what and is actually probably a great candidate for actually being mafia or 3p because like he said all of day 1 and 2 he wasn't mentioned by ANYONE and i don't think anyone has really pushed for his lynch either when he would be a great mislynch to push all day everyday

storr... i dunno looks towny but is really just talking about the mathematics of shots and who was likely shot by who instead of who is mafia and only pushed 1 guy all game who was town

damd... pushed by mafia all game and i originally thought he was towny but has done some really funky switches from logic today and his qq you'll laugh when i flip vanilla is really scummy of him especially now he's just left the thread and is doing nothing

obi... weirdo but sheeped me so its cool, looked pretty bussy though



Holyflare
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October 14 2014 00:35 GMT
#3183
just verbal diarrheaing over the thread so i can piece things together
Holyflare
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October 14 2014 00:45 GMT
#3192
Vote Count D1:
Obvious One (8): Blazinghand, Alakaslam, Hopeless1der, Holyflare, Oatsmaster, liancourt, KelsierSC, Damdred
Obiwanshinobi (3): Grackaroni, Palmer, batsnacks
Holyflare (1): ObiWanShinobi
liancourt (1): StorrZerg
Blazinghand (1): ObviousOne

Vote Count D2:
ObiWanShinobi (4): Blazinghand, Alakaslam, KelsierSC, hopeless1der
hopeless1der (6): ObiWanShinobi, Palmar, Damdred, Holyflare,, Grackaroni, batsnacks
liancourt (1): StorrZerg
Damdred (1): Liancourt
Holyflare
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October 14 2014 00:46 GMT
#3194
On October 14 2014 09:43 Alakaslam wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 14 2014 09:35 Holyflare wrote:
that leaves storr/palmar/damd/obi/slam

palmar only really stepping it up today after 2 mafia have been lynched is really fucking bad/scummy of him and it's sad if he's actually town but he probably should be lynched as a likely poisoner hit n1 and i did keep saying he was probably 3p earlier

slam is jumping on every wagon ever made no matter what and is actually probably a great candidate for actually being mafia or 3p because like he said all of day 1 and 2 he wasn't mentioned by ANYONE and i don't think anyone has really pushed for his lynch either when he would be a great mislynch to push all day everyday

storr... i dunno looks towny but is really just talking about the mathematics of shots and who was likely shot by who instead of who is mafia and only pushed 1 guy all game who was town

damd... pushed by mafia all game and i originally thought he was towny but has done some really funky switches from logic today and his qq you'll laugh when i flip vanilla is really scummy of him especially now he's just left the thread and is doing nothing

obi... weirdo but sheeped me so its cool, looked pretty bussy though




You lazy ass, there was no wagon on kelsier XD

The vote thread is not that far away.

Stfu about me being scum until you read my filter. I manipulate you people too far in advance.

I will post relevant link soon.


only scummy people manipulate!
Holyflare
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October 14 2014 00:48 GMT
#3195
where art thou o damdy?
Holyflare
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October 14 2014 00:49 GMT
#3197
Vote Count D1:
Obvious One (8): Blazinghand, Alakaslam, Hopeless1der, Holyflare, Oatsmaster, liancourt, KelsierSC, Damdred
Obiwanshinobi (3): Grackaroni, Palmer, batsnacks
Holyflare (1): ObiWanShinobi
liancourt (1): StorrZerg
Blazinghand (1): ObviousOne

Vote Count D2:
ObiWanShinobi (4): Blazinghand, Alakaslam, KelsierSC, hopeless1der
hopeless1der (6): ObiWanShinobi, Palmar, Damdred, Holyflare, Grackaroni, batsnacks
liancourt (1): StorrZerg
Damdred (1): Liancourt

fixed some things
Holyflare
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October 14 2014 00:49 GMT
#3198
lets just assume hopeless voted on mafia all day everyday

##unvote
##vote obiwanshinobi
Holyflare
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October 14 2014 00:50 GMT
#3200
makes life easier, it's pretty likely AND would be hilarious if he actually is
Holyflare
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October 14 2014 00:54 GMT
#3202
well it's what's happening so yeh
Holyflare
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October 14 2014 00:55 GMT
#3203
maybe rng will save us cz odds are totes higher than usual



this is an rng mod getter post
Holyflare
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October 14 2014 00:57 GMT
#3205
shit maybe i rng'd myself i dunno i cba to do the mod thing
Holyflare
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October 14 2014 00:58 GMT
#3206
where the fuck is damd because i kinda don't want to lynch him but do so if he was mafia or poisoner this would be the easiest time to get out of the lynch ever
Holyflare
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October 14 2014 00:59 GMT
#3207
this slam guy just appears whenever his name crops up and then pushes the flavour of the thread and fucks off again maybe we should actually lynch him
Holyflare
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October 14 2014 01:01 GMT
#3208
would now be the time to reveal i actually have been the cop all along?
Holyflare
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October 14 2014 01:03 GMT
#3211
kelsier
Holyflare
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October 14 2014 01:04 GMT
#3212
slam who should we be lynching and why are you on damdred?
Holyflare
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October 14 2014 01:34 GMT
#3224
On October 14 2014 10:30 KelsierSC wrote:
anyway I badly need sleep

I am sure slam is mafia.

1) last mafia didn't vote on hope. has to be slam or me.
2) difference being I gave reasons for my push on obi and led it with a strong town game, slam just sheeped the read because "bh"
3) I've been figuring out this game and giving my reads throughout. slam has just nonsense posted and trolled
4) he has wagoned everything this day and contradicted himself on hf. saying he had "destroyed scum team" but he still wanted to lynch him. anyone wanting to lynch hf today is scum as far as I am concerned

## vote Alakaslam


what stops your reasons on obi changing?
Holyflare
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October 14 2014 01:38 GMT
#3225
DAMDRED COME BACK HERE THIS INSTANCE
Holyflare
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October 14 2014 01:38 GMT
#3226
instant herp derp
Holyflare
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October 14 2014 01:41 GMT
#3230
On October 14 2014 10:39 KelsierSC wrote:
Hf i don't understand the question


just because obi was on mafia hopeless which you said he had no reasons for really being on what stops obi from being mafia?
Holyflare
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October 14 2014 01:43 GMT
#3233
On October 14 2014 10:43 KelsierSC wrote:
Why would obi push so hard on his mafia partner at that point.



because they just lost a mafia partner and another one was under crazy suspicion from me
Holyflare
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October 14 2014 01:44 GMT
#3234
for the exact sentence you just said, for the town cred
Holyflare
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October 14 2014 01:45 GMT
#3235
slam are you around?
Holyflare
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October 14 2014 01:46 GMT
#3237
man it really could be any of these fucking people this is really frustrating and the longer damd is away the more i want to lynch him like straight outright for that martyring and saying he'd flip vanilla
Holyflare
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October 14 2014 01:48 GMT
#3238
dont worry though i'll do some next level rbing and save the game
Holyflare
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October 14 2014 01:50 GMT
#3241
think im just gonna be happy lynching damd for qqing and the hopeless push on him based on shit points that looked totally like a bus when i think about it because hopeless was adamant they were amazing points
Holyflare
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October 14 2014 01:57 GMT
#3244
On October 14 2014 10:53 KelsierSC wrote:
That is not a good reason at all.

how can you read slam as town over dam


it's a perfectly good reason
Holyflare
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October 14 2014 02:27 GMT
#3248
i am disappointed that damdred just rolled over as mafia like he did
Holyflare
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October 14 2014 02:30 GMT
#3250
i'll be even more disappointed if he flips town though, remember that damdred!
Holyflare
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October 14 2014 02:30 GMT
#3251
On October 14 2014 11:30 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
I still don't know why Damdred is scum though.


just sit there being pretty then
Holyflare
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October 14 2014 02:47 GMT
#3254
sorry damd its too late
Holyflare
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October 14 2014 03:11 GMT
#3257
it's not just what i was talking about it's a lot of things
Holyflare
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October 14 2014 03:15 GMT
#3260
man is it possible that we lynch storr for never being on a mafia wagon all game?
Holyflare
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October 14 2014 03:17 GMT
#3264
Vote Count D1:
Obvious One (8): Blazinghand, Alakaslam, Hopeless1der, Holyflare, Oatsmaster, liancourt, KelsierSC, Damdred
Obiwanshinobi (3): Grackaroni, Palmer, batsnacks
Holyflare (1): ObiWanShinobi
liancourt (1): StorrZerg
Blazinghand (1): ObviousOne

Vote Count D2:
ObiWanShinobi (4): Blazinghand, Alakaslam, KelsierSC, hopeless1der
hopeless1der (6): ObiWanShinobi, Palmar, Damdred, Holyflare, Grackaroni, batsnacks
liancourt (1): StorrZerg
Damdred (1): Liancourt
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
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October 14 2014 03:19 GMT
#3266
damd talk me through why you wanted to switch off hopeless and onto liam at deadline?
Holyflare
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October 14 2014 03:22 GMT
#3268
are you poisoner?
Holyflare
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October 14 2014 03:23 GMT
#3269
vote count plz
Holyflare
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October 14 2014 03:26 GMT
#3273
meh grack what you think?
Holyflare
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October 14 2014 03:27 GMT
#3274
##unvote
##vote palmar
Holyflare
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October 14 2014 03:28 GMT
#3275
its his own fault for only appearing today
Holyflare
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October 14 2014 03:42 GMT
#3283
i very much dislike this game
Holyflare
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October 14 2014 03:47 GMT
#3287
if you made up a fake excuse and are mafia i'll never play with you again btw
Holyflare
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October 14 2014 03:50 GMT
#3294
On October 14 2014 12:48 Damdred wrote:
Well its good thing its not a fake excuse and i'm not mafia! So its a win win


i dont think its a good thing :/
Holyflare
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October 14 2014 03:52 GMT
#3296
palmar is probably the poisoner lets lynch him and if he isn't it's hilarious anyway
Holyflare
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October 14 2014 03:54 GMT
#3299
On October 14 2014 12:53 Grackaroni wrote:
Just ignore the excuse really. I doubt Damdred lied about a funeral regardless of his alignment.


well i'll just stick to my initial read then
Holyflare
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October 14 2014 03:54 GMT
#3300
On October 14 2014 12:54 Holyflare wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 14 2014 12:53 Grackaroni wrote:
Just ignore the excuse really. I doubt Damdred lied about a funeral regardless of his alignment.


well i'll just stick to my initial read then


which was damd town and palmar 3p
Holyflare
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October 14 2014 03:55 GMT
#3302
storr really could be mafia for telling us he hates palmar and kel and voting with palmar on damdred
Holyflare
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October 14 2014 03:56 GMT
#3303
slam vote palmar, grack vote palmar, everyone vote palmar
Holyflare
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October 14 2014 03:56 GMT
#3305
On October 14 2014 12:55 Holyflare wrote:
storr really could be mafia for telling us he hates palmar and kel and voting with palmar on damdred


+ never being on any wagon and also talking about bh shot n1
Holyflare
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October 14 2014 03:56 GMT
#3307
On October 14 2014 12:56 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
Gee thanks for introducing yet another lynch target 5 minutes before deadline.


#lynchmafiaalldayerrday
Holyflare
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October 14 2014 03:57 GMT
#3309
On October 14 2014 12:56 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
Idk if I want to stay on Palmar.

Fucking fuck.


you are literally claiming not town then
Holyflare
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October 14 2014 03:57 GMT
#3312
fuck this, obi is actually mafia after all
Holyflare
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October 14 2014 03:58 GMT
#3315
lynch palmar so he can flip and then we absolutely lynch storr tomorrow regardless of any flip
Holyflare
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October 14 2014 03:59 GMT
#3321
On October 14 2014 12:59 Grackaroni wrote:
nah I'm sticking this time. I really think that Hopeless' push on Damdred was a bus and if I end up being wrong at least I'll be wrong with my read this time rather than when I shot Lian.


k bro
Holyflare
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October 14 2014 04:00 GMT
#3326
what obi is doing now is really terribly scummy though he literally just said he doesnt want to be on palmar after sheeping my reads all game and now he's playing the really really scummy oh wo is me card
Holyflare
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October 14 2014 04:00 GMT
#3328
On October 14 2014 13:00 Damdred wrote:
TY for the game guys, and i'm glad i could at least get you to come around hf maybe i'm nto as terrible as i thought.

GG


( blame grack
Holyflare
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October 14 2014 04:04 GMT
#3330
f5
f5
f5
f5
f5
f5
f5

sad face
Holyflare
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October 14 2014 04:05 GMT
#3333
ok look i'm telling you, i'm going for massive end game credit now and i'm sorry i've been so fucking lazy today but we absolutely 1000% lynch storrzerg because he is the poisoner and we lynch obi because he is the last mafia
Holyflare
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October 14 2014 04:07 GMT
#3337
On October 14 2014 13:05 StorrZerg wrote:
why did you switch back last second hf?


why did you come back last second storrzerg?
why have you pushed town all game storrzerg?
why did you spend all day saying kel and palmar were scummy and then end up on damdred WITH palmar storrzerg?
why do you not actually care who gets lynched but only who shot bh which didn't even matter in the end storrzerg?

oh yeh because you're poisoner and you don't give a shit about lynching mafia if you can kill a towny
Holyflare
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October 14 2014 04:07 GMT
#3338
On October 14 2014 13:06 Grackaroni wrote:
AAAAH I've already been mindfucked enough already this game HF! Why not Palmar now?


i was thinking about all the crap he wrote today and it's so clueless
Holyflare
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October 14 2014 04:08 GMT
#3342
i'll try hard for you grack so that in the very likely event that I die i'll leave everything I have and you know that when i invest mafia get lynched! follow me to victory
Holyflare
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October 14 2014 04:09 GMT
#3343
On October 14 2014 13:07 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 14 2014 13:05 Holyflare wrote:
ok look i'm telling you, i'm going for massive end game credit now and i'm sorry i've been so fucking lazy today but we absolutely 1000% lynch storrzerg because he is the poisoner and we lynch obi because he is the last mafia


HF, literally shut up.

You just called me not town for not being sure on Palmar who you wanted to lynch, you switch back to damdred for NO REASOn and STILL call me mafia. SO stupid.


no you're fucking mafia and i'm going to get you lynched whether you like it or not, I know you bussed hopeless
Holyflare
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October 14 2014 04:09 GMT
#3346
actions around deadline are so so so so telling
Holyflare
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October 14 2014 04:10 GMT
#3348
On October 14 2014 13:09 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 14 2014 13:07 Holyflare wrote:
On October 14 2014 13:06 Grackaroni wrote:
AAAAH I've already been mindfucked enough already this game HF! Why not Palmar now?


i was thinking about all the crap he wrote today and it's so clueless


I was asking you almost ALL of the time I got back to explain on damdred and you never did. Don't you dare sit here and get pissy at me for calling me all confused and shit when I was asking you to explain shit.


i'm not getting pissy i'm calling you mafia and now i'm convicted and will prove it
Holyflare
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October 14 2014 04:12 GMT
#3351
On October 14 2014 13:10 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 14 2014 13:09 Holyflare wrote:
actions around deadline are so so so so telling


YOU DIDNT EXPLAIN ANYTHING TO ME. I WAS ASKING YOU ALL DAY TO DO THIS AND YOU NEVER DID AND THEN YOU GOT PISSED AT ME FOR NOT UNDERSTANDING.

WHAT IN THE ACTUAL FUCK.


i explained about 5 times and then i wanted to switch to palmar and you said you wanted to move off
Holyflare
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October 14 2014 04:14 GMT
#3355
On October 14 2014 13:12 StorrZerg wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 14 2014 13:08 Holyflare wrote:
i'll try hard for you grack so that in the very likely event that I die i'll leave everything I have and you know that when i invest mafia get lynched! follow me to victory


where was this conviction this past day?


who gives a shit where it was it just wasn't there and i'm pretty annoyed that none of you appeared until RIGHT AT THE LAST MINUTE because i didn't actually want to end up on damd after what he was saying like literally 4 of you appear with 5 minutes to go which is pathetic
Holyflare
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October 14 2014 04:14 GMT
#3357
1 of you has to be 3p for that to happen
Holyflare
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October 14 2014 04:15 GMT
#3358
or mafia
Holyflare
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October 14 2014 04:15 GMT
#3360
urgh never playing in a fucking 3p game again it's so shit
Holyflare
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October 14 2014 04:16 GMT
#3362
On October 14 2014 13:15 StorrZerg wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 14 2014 13:14 Holyflare wrote:
On October 14 2014 13:12 StorrZerg wrote:
On October 14 2014 13:08 Holyflare wrote:
i'll try hard for you grack so that in the very likely event that I die i'll leave everything I have and you know that when i invest mafia get lynched! follow me to victory


where was this conviction this past day?


who gives a shit where it was it just wasn't there and i'm pretty annoyed that none of you appeared until RIGHT AT THE LAST MINUTE because i didn't actually want to end up on damd after what he was saying like literally 4 of you appear with 5 minutes to go which is pathetic



why did you switch last min back to damd then instead of palmar?

i


because he's who i stuck on for a long time and grack said he wanted to lynch him so i went with grack for a change because nobody was around to even discuss other than him
Holyflare
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October 14 2014 04:18 GMT
#3364
i don't care what slam does
Holyflare
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October 14 2014 04:19 GMT
#3365
i think we probably lynch him tomorrow though
Holyflare
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October 14 2014 04:19 GMT
#3366
ive stopped thinking obi is mafia sorry obi
Holyflare
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October 14 2014 04:21 GMT
#3368
slam said he played anti town on purpose, he hasn't really pushed anything, he jumps on a new wagon whenever it is made and he's probably poisoner
Holyflare
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October 14 2014 04:21 GMT
#3369
On October 14 2014 13:20 Grackaroni wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 14 2014 13:16 Holyflare wrote:
On October 14 2014 13:15 StorrZerg wrote:
On October 14 2014 13:14 Holyflare wrote:
On October 14 2014 13:12 StorrZerg wrote:
On October 14 2014 13:08 Holyflare wrote:
i'll try hard for you grack so that in the very likely event that I die i'll leave everything I have and you know that when i invest mafia get lynched! follow me to victory


where was this conviction this past day?


who gives a shit where it was it just wasn't there and i'm pretty annoyed that none of you appeared until RIGHT AT THE LAST MINUTE because i didn't actually want to end up on damd after what he was saying like literally 4 of you appear with 5 minutes to go which is pathetic



why did you switch last min back to damd then instead of palmar?

i


because he's who i stuck on for a long time and grack said he wanted to lynch him so i went with grack for a change because nobody was around to even discuss other than him

You noob! Why would you go with my read that's just asking for disaster.

After missing the Oats shot I was annoyed. After I missed on Lian I was really annoyed because I didn't even think it was a good shot. After that Damdred lynch I'm just laughing because really how can someone single-handedly kill 3 townies in a row. I'll definitely be back here tomorrow just as lost as I was today.


we'll work through it together, i'll bounce stuff off of you and you can critique it or w/e
Holyflare
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October 14 2014 04:22 GMT
#3370
also sorry i was out to tell you to not shoot lian
Holyflare
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October 14 2014 04:24 GMT
#3372
hopefully i can do some useful actions tonight
Holyflare
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October 14 2014 04:25 GMT
#3373
and by useful actions i mean tank a bullet because i'm a vet
Holyflare
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October 14 2014 04:27 GMT
#3375
On October 14 2014 13:26 Grackaroni wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 14 2014 13:25 Holyflare wrote:
and by useful actions i mean tank a bullet because i'm a vet

nope. If there's no medic claim tomorrow HF is poisoner. And like Palmar said if theres 2 kills the only way town can win is if mafia is lynched tomorrow followed by poisoner.


stop ruining my role claim dude
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October 14 2014 04:27 GMT
#3376
and that's not true because i'm the rber -.-
Holyflare
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October 14 2014 04:29 GMT
#3378
like my rb claim was so fucking honest and maybe you should think about it because if you followed storr's logic that whoever they shot n1 and failed would get shot n2 then it's actually IMPOSSIBLE that i'm the poisoner because even if i tanked a bullet as poisoner n1 then i would have died n2 because i would be a free kill
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October 14 2014 04:32 GMT
#3380
On October 14 2014 13:31 Grackaroni wrote:
Basically theres just a missing shot and I just don't picture mafia shooting Palmar after his day 1 play (or anyone else other than HF besides BH)


i agree
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October 14 2014 04:32 GMT
#3381
On October 14 2014 13:32 Holyflare wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 14 2014 13:31 Grackaroni wrote:
Basically theres just a missing shot and I just don't picture mafia shooting Palmar after his day 1 play (or anyone else other than HF besides BH)


i agree


i dont actually know why i'm alive
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October 14 2014 04:33 GMT
#3383
On October 14 2014 13:32 StorrZerg wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 14 2014 13:29 Holyflare wrote:
like my rb claim was so fucking honest and maybe you should think about it because if you followed storr's logic that whoever they shot n1 and failed would get shot n2 then it's actually IMPOSSIBLE that i'm the poisoner because even if i tanked a bullet as poisoner n1 then i would have died n2 because i would be a free kill


while your claim is honest, you are also throwing a bunch of shit in the air.

and yes, from my point of view i find it highly unlikely you have been shot at all.


what shit am i throwing in the air?
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October 14 2014 04:34 GMT
#3386
medic and rber we still have a very good chance to win maybe
Holyflare
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October 14 2014 04:35 GMT
#3389
well someone being a medic would be awesome because that confirms a person <3
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October 14 2014 04:36 GMT
#3391
On October 14 2014 13:35 Alakaslam wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 11 2014 07:02 Blazinghand wrote:
On October 11 2014 07:01 Hopeless1der wrote:
On October 11 2014 06:58 Blazinghand wrote:
On October 11 2014 06:56 Hopeless1der wrote:
On October 11 2014 06:55 Blazinghand wrote:
On October 11 2014 06:53 Hopeless1der wrote:
On October 11 2014 06:52 Grackaroni wrote:
On October 11 2014 06:48 Blazinghand wrote:
what if I discover he's an amazing lynch? then I'd have to unvote OWS. We can't be having that

I promise there's some good stuff to read in there! There was an RNG and it hit OWS!

You don't have to read it if you don't want to but I'd like your opinion because I'm flip flopping.

He knows about the RNG, he even verified I did it correctly.


all I verified is that you didn't game it with one of your posts. clearly you didn't do rng correctly because you didn't vote for your rng target.

On October 11 2014 00:59 Hopeless1der wrote:
##Vote: ObiWanShinobi

?


don't be coy with me, you poopy-head.

On October 11 2014 02:23 Hopeless1der wrote:
##Unvote
##Vote: Damdred


try bullshit liek that again and I'll vote you in principle.

I'm sorry. I didn't think the rules were so strict after D1.

what rules? the point of RNG is that you rng your vote. when I said "you didn't vote for your rng target" your objection can't be "look, here's me voting for him" and leave out the fact that you unvoted him literally an hour later. Like, look at that post of yours that's just a question mark. Really dude? really? You think you've fulfilled the premise of RNG? or are you pretending to not understand the fact that I'm referring to where your vote is now?

I somehow

Look at this

Hopeless RNG ows

Silently unvotes

BH calls him out.


do you think nobody would ever notice that or what????
Holyflare
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October 14 2014 04:37 GMT
#3395
who the fuck is that?
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October 14 2014 04:38 GMT
#3399
On October 14 2014 13:37 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
Why are there 4 scum in this setup? Town only gets to miss once.

Ridic.


we've missed about 1000x what are you saying?
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October 14 2014 04:39 GMT
#3404
shit happens
Holyflare
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October 14 2014 04:40 GMT
#3405
i have a good feeling about these night kills though
Holyflare
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October 14 2014 04:41 GMT
#3407
if i die today you know i wasn't saved n1 btw
Holyflare
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October 14 2014 04:43 GMT
#3409
my dying wish is a kelsier rb btw
Holyflare
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October 14 2014 04:45 GMT
#3410
i really wish i stuck on palmar now :/
Holyflare
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October 14 2014 04:45 GMT
#3411
man i hate everything about this game and any shitty 3p role
Holyflare
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October 14 2014 14:17 GMT
#3425
still the incredibly invested un counter claimed roleblocker palmar, have more page filter than rayn in lxiii
Holyflare
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October 14 2014 15:35 GMT
#3428
i can rb the poisoner and we can still win stop your stupid shitty qq
Holyflare
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October 14 2014 15:46 GMT
#3430
hopeless mentions slam like 3 times in his entire filter and one of those is a read through of 3 ppl and he doesnt do slam and the other time he calls him scummy and does nothing
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October 14 2014 16:03 GMT
#3432
exactly?
Holyflare
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October 14 2014 16:20 GMT
#3435
im so sorry damd i shouldn't have lynched you that was so bad
Holyflare
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October 14 2014 16:26 GMT
#3436
On October 15 2014 01:13 StorrZerg wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 14 2014 19:29 Palmar wrote:
I like how I almost got killed last night. My favorite part was when that didn't happen.

Can you like explain how on earth I am scum?


1. the "mega town read on kel"
2. pushing me as scum for unknown reason
3. bad logic leading to hf being psner
4. still screaming hf is psner
5. pushed obi day 1
6. pushed damd.
7. more shit that i don't understand how you can draw these weird conclusions.



only really started playing after 2 mafia died
Holyflare
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October 14 2014 16:44 GMT
#3439
On October 15 2014 01:33 StorrZerg wrote:
ok hf bury me
wait, you should let palmar do that first since he needs to actually explain stuff


im agreeing with you
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October 14 2014 17:08 GMT
#3442
possibly maybe definitely
Holyflare
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October 14 2014 19:02 GMT
#3443
great talk guys
Holyflare
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October 14 2014 19:23 GMT
#3445
yay town
Holyflare
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October 14 2014 21:45 GMT
#3453
and i can't be poisoner :D
Holyflare
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October 14 2014 23:38 GMT
#3455
glad to see absolutely nobody has posted other than us 3
Holyflare
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October 15 2014 00:01 GMT
#3457
well even afk palmar has technically posted something even if it is primarily poop
Holyflare
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October 15 2014 01:57 GMT
#3463
On October 15 2014 09:16 StorrZerg wrote:
hf whats your thought on pr roles claiming right before day post?


literally on the o clock and their action would be fine
Holyflare
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October 15 2014 03:03 GMT
#3464
Holyflare
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October 15 2014 03:11 GMT
#3466
On October 15 2014 09:38 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
Just got off work.


dis guy
Holyflare
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October 15 2014 03:19 GMT
#3468
huehuehuehue
Holyflare
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October 15 2014 03:26 GMT
#3471
you absolutely lynch palmar tomorrow, he is the poisoner
Holyflare
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October 15 2014 03:27 GMT
#3473
On October 15 2014 12:26 Holyflare wrote:
you absolutely lynch palmar tomorrow, he is the poisoner


or mafia
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October 15 2014 03:27 GMT
#3474
most likely poisoner
Holyflare
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October 15 2014 03:29 GMT
#3475
On October 08 2014 06:05 Palmar wrote:
Also batsnacks is probably town for being the one to point out the scumslip. Mafia doesn't have the balls to do something this stupid.

This means we can all safely just ignore batsnacks for the rest of the game, as it's unlikely anything he says is actually of any value.


prob poisoner for this post
Holyflare
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October 15 2014 03:32 GMT
#3478
not if i dont die and can rb
Holyflare
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October 15 2014 03:32 GMT
#3479
or have rb'd the poisoner today
Holyflare
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October 15 2014 03:32 GMT
#3480
or yesterday
Holyflare
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October 15 2014 03:36 GMT
#3482
your mum
Holyflare
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October 15 2014 03:36 GMT
#3483
You are Wes Welker and you enjoy having a bit of fun and allegedly molly too. Every night you may pm the host #throwhundreddollarbills PlayerName. That player will enjoy the races with you that night and will be unable to take any other actions that night

^^ do you get it? it means we're having sex
Holyflare
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October 15 2014 03:37 GMT
#3485
JUST LIKE YOUR MUM
Holyflare
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October 15 2014 03:38 GMT
#3486
OHHHHHHHHHHHhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH

Holyflare
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October 15 2014 03:41 GMT
#3488
gimme yo reads bro
Holyflare
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October 15 2014 03:42 GMT
#3492
ME MWAHAHAHAHAHA
Holyflare
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October 15 2014 03:43 GMT
#3493
anyway i cant stay up much longer

n1: hopeless
n2: kelsier
n3: obi

gggggggggggggggggggg
Holyflare
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October 15 2014 03:45 GMT
#3496
http://www.quicktopic.com/50/H/DvLF7xeBksS
Holyflare
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October 15 2014 03:45 GMT
#3497
On October 15 2014 12:45 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
Hf have I ever mentioned that I hate you.


suck it poisoner
Holyflare
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October 15 2014 03:49 GMT
#3501
On October 15 2014 12:48 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
Cripes that game is old.

Claim an rb for reals in case you get shot though.


read post 173 onwards
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October 15 2014 03:50 GMT
#3502
On October 15 2014 12:49 Alakaslam wrote:
I return what have I missed


you're poisoner
Holyflare
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October 15 2014 03:59 GMT
#3510
byeeeeee
Holyflare
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October 15 2014 04:00 GMT
#3512
im just a vt btw suck it
Holyflare
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October 15 2014 04:00 GMT
#3514
i'd say lynch slam tomorrow but i don't actually have a clue, you want to lynch mafia that's for sure (unless i blocked a poisoner shot) and i don't think palmar is mafia (he might be poisoner)

storr is probably town just for being around and talking even if it was useless but be wary of him

i rb'd kelsier n2 so if he's poisoner then it should be obvious if there's only 1 nk tonight (medic discuss stuff if you exist) but he's not mafia either

don't lynch obi i think

obv don't kill grack


my real actions:

n1: hopeless
n2: kelsiersc
n3: slam
Holyflare
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October 15 2014 04:00 GMT
#3517
kidding :p
Holyflare
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October 15 2014 04:00 GMT
#3518
On October 15 2014 13:00 StorrZerg wrote:
Medic on obi


i hate you wtf
Holyflare
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October 15 2014 04:00 GMT
#3521
HE WAS A FUCKING COP ARE YOU FUCKING SERIOUS RIGHT NOW WTF
Holyflare
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October 15 2014 04:03 GMT
#3529
the level of pissed off i am right now with obi is reaching new levels of ridiculous, he could have literally solved the game already and he didn't even tell us his n2 check
Holyflare
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October 15 2014 04:03 GMT
#3530
worst thing is he checked me n1 and now you know i'm confirmed town
Holyflare
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October 15 2014 04:11 GMT
#3536
if we lynch a town now it's a stalemate unless slam is poisoner
Holyflare
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October 15 2014 04:13 GMT
#3537
and if slam is the poisoner it should actually be end game
Holyflare
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October 15 2014 04:13 GMT
#3539
so actually now slam is just mafia or town
Holyflare
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October 15 2014 04:14 GMT
#3540
On October 15 2014 13:13 Grackaroni wrote:
I'm not completely convinced yet that Obi checked HF and not Hopeless day1. He might have changed reads on HF because he got a redcheck on Hopeless and saw HF pushing Hope.


he's been saying "the only person i wont lynch is hf", "hf is definitely town now"
Holyflare
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October 15 2014 04:14 GMT
#3541
like it's irrelevant i'm a rber and the roles add up
Holyflare
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October 15 2014 04:16 GMT
#3542
i hate this shitty lylo
Holyflare
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October 15 2014 04:17 GMT
#3544
slam it's pathetic that you have "played like a poisoner" and "wanted people to think i was a poisoner" btw that's very bm
Holyflare
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October 15 2014 04:17 GMT
#3546
i should have stuck onto palmar last lynch ~_~
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October 15 2014 04:18 GMT
#3547
On October 15 2014 12:29 Holyflare wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 08 2014 06:05 Palmar wrote:
Also batsnacks is probably town for being the one to point out the scumslip. Mafia doesn't have the balls to do something this stupid.

This means we can all safely just ignore batsnacks for the rest of the game, as it's unlikely anything he says is actually of any value.


prob poisoner for this post



think this is actually the best case for palmar being poisoner ever
Holyflare
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October 15 2014 04:19 GMT
#3548
and now we actually know that there is no medic then palmar being poisoner is pretty much a done deal
Holyflare
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October 15 2014 04:20 GMT
#3549
so now we have to find who is mafia between kelsier and slam
Holyflare
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October 15 2014 04:21 GMT
#3552
<3
Holyflare
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October 15 2014 04:21 GMT
#3553
let's hope palmar fucked up his actions tonight :p
Holyflare
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October 15 2014 04:23 GMT
#3554
so i keep getting drawn to the being framed bs kelsier did which is annoying
and also drawn to slam only being mentioned by hopeless like twice in the entire game and ignored while mentioning him
Holyflare
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October 15 2014 04:28 GMT
#3556
well kelsier wasn't really mentioned either so scratch that
Holyflare
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October 15 2014 04:29 GMT
#3557
in retrospect palmar being 3p was really really really obvious
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October 15 2014 04:30 GMT
#3559
On October 15 2014 13:29 Alakaslam wrote:
Ok.

Are you guys willing to consider the entire game or do you want to work with fresh steam?

Because if you are willing to consider the whole game, read my earliest stuff with Grack.

It generally confirmed me to a lot of people, I forget how because I don't remember it.

Otherwise, like I asked later when everyone got pissed: Attack me and I will do my best to defend.


but if you're town then kelsier is mafia
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October 15 2014 04:31 GMT
#3560
there's also the fact that you haven't referenced yourself as a likely mislynch and how we should get you out of the way the entire game
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October 15 2014 04:31 GMT
#3562
On October 15 2014 13:31 Alakaslam wrote:
Wait

Oh this is dumb. HF RB doesn't help KP is faction.

FAUGH.


mafia kp is factional and i've told you this about a dozen times when you said the same thing yesterday and claimed i was poisoner
Holyflare
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October 15 2014 04:32 GMT
#3563
nowhere does it say that poisoner kp is factional
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October 15 2014 04:33 GMT
#3566
well i didn't know who poisoner was so there's that
Holyflare
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October 15 2014 04:34 GMT
#3569
how??
Holyflare
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October 15 2014 04:36 GMT
#3570
just gonna do some real dick move analysis and say the fact that you have 15 pages makes you town

##vote kelsiersc
Holyflare
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October 15 2014 04:36 GMT
#3571
sorry i made this game so much harder grack :/
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October 15 2014 04:40 GMT
#3574
On October 15 2014 13:37 Alakaslam wrote:
You know, one game on OMGUS has me raging I the graveyard that the scum were all so suspicious all along and town was derping themselves into almost lynching them instead of growing a pair and lynching them.

I think that is the case here, you might not remember but I have been Townread or null most of ye game, while Kelsier has been scumread or null- or townreAd by our influential poisoner, palmar.

Which is in his best interest.


are you implying he knew who mafia was somehow???
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October 15 2014 04:40 GMT
#3576
On October 15 2014 13:37 Grackaroni wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 15 2014 13:31 Holyflare wrote:
there's also the fact that you haven't referenced yourself as a likely mislynch and how we should get you out of the way the entire game

Tis trueeee


god grack don't agree with me! but yes this is actually true enough to make me actually want to change my mind
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October 15 2014 04:41 GMT
#3578
also kelsier was pretty invested yesterday whereas slam just appears at deadlines to drop a vote randomly or sheep
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October 15 2014 04:43 GMT
#3581
if obi listened to my checks it woulda been great though
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October 15 2014 04:44 GMT
#3583
and my rb was to fucking stop kelsier appearing as gf if he was MAFIA, like I PURPOSEFULLY DID IT TO AVOID THIS FU OBI
Holyflare
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October 15 2014 04:46 GMT
#3586
On October 15 2014 13:45 Grackaroni wrote:
But KSC said that hopeless was framed and voted obi. We should probably just follow the obi/hopeless wagon really. KSC was pushing a really strong mafia agenda that day and that would have been an extremely important lynch from my perspective if I was mafia. I would have done everything I could to keep my 2nd scum buddy alive if I was scum and then I would've gotten lynched right after Hopeless lol


:D this is true.... but the newness of him and having 16 pages in first mafia game?? it makes me wonder ya know
Holyflare
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October 15 2014 04:55 GMT
#3594
Vote Count D1:
Obvious One (8): Blazinghand, Alakaslam, Hopeless1der, Holyflare, Oatsmaster, liancourt, KelsierSC, Damdred
Obiwanshinobi (3): Grackaroni, Palmer, batsnacks
Holyflare (1): ObiWanShinobi
liancourt (1): StorrZerg
Blazinghand (1): ObviousOne

Vote Count D2:
ObiWanShinobi (4): Blazinghand, Alakaslam, KelsierSC, hopeless1der
hopeless1der (6): ObiWanShinobi, Palmar, Damdred, Holyflare, Grackaroni, batsnacks
liancourt (1): StorrZerg
Damdred (1): Liancourt

they both voted on the same wagons but when i thought damd's vote was scummy on OO (because it was late) this also very much applies to kelsier, gonna have a look how the hopeless wagon went down probably tomorrow and see what's what
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October 15 2014 04:56 GMT
#3595
On October 15 2014 13:49 Grackaroni wrote:
lol I wrote a while bunch of stuff about how I'm tempted to just go with the votes from day 2 and then I realized slam also voted for Obi


dat ninja
Holyflare
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October 15 2014 05:00 GMT
#3598
fuck it i'm just going to assume that frame comment was tmi and hopeless' n1 action was to frame himself so to kelsier it was impossible that hopeless was checked because of it (wouldn't know about rber at that point), he also ignored it completely even though he "believed it" and went for obi and then after the hopeless flip he didn't have any conclusions whatsoever and had to "formulate some reads"
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October 15 2014 05:07 GMT
#3601
On October 15 2014 14:06 Grackaroni wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 15 2014 13:55 Holyflare wrote:
Vote Count D2:
ObiWanShinobi (4): Blazinghand, Alakaslam, KelsierSC, hopeless1der
hopeless1der (6): ObiWanShinobi, Palmar, Damdred, Holyflare, Grackaroni, batsnacks
liancourt (1): StorrZerg
Damdred (1): Liancourt

Not going to lie - just looking at the day2 votes I instinctively want to color it like this,

BH shouts Obi is scum for his obvious backtrack on Palmar. Slam blindly follows BH because blazing . KSC/Hopeless jump on Obi wagon and hope some people will follow BH's backtrack logic. Mafia gets lynched


ya
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October 15 2014 05:10 GMT
#3602
well im gonna go to bed and will look at it tomorrow some more nn
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October 15 2014 14:16 GMT
#3605
absolutely no way slam is mafia right now sorry kelsier
Holyflare
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October 15 2014 14:17 GMT
#3606
palmar who did you poison?
Holyflare
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October 15 2014 15:22 GMT
#3608
Yeh no
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October 15 2014 15:24 GMT
#3609
It's literally impossible that slam or kelsier are poisoner. I rb'd kelsier n2 and there is still a poisoner shot. I rb'd slam last night and if he was poisoner it would be endgame because his shot wouldn't go through and even if we lynch a towny today we just lynch the non confirmed tomorrow so it would be end game. Unlucky.
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October 15 2014 15:26 GMT
#3610
As poisoner you can't win this game at all so you may as well stop trolling and tell us who you poisoned
Holyflare
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October 15 2014 15:29 GMT
#3613
Well it's impossible for you not to be so w/e carry on losing
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October 15 2014 15:37 GMT
#3614
Oh wait what poisoner can win with any alignment or what?
Holyflare
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October 15 2014 15:38 GMT
#3615
If we kill palmar and no lynch we win anyway???
Holyflare
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October 15 2014 15:38 GMT
#3616
Actually no nvm
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October 15 2014 15:40 GMT
#3617
I'm still pissed at obi for wasting my night action ffs
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October 15 2014 16:15 GMT
#3618
Got my course today so can't do anything till later
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October 15 2014 21:53 GMT
#3619
Good talk while i was gone guys
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October 15 2014 22:53 GMT
#3620
so kelsier was supposed to post tonight and didn't at all
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October 16 2014 00:23 GMT
#3622
good for you
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October 16 2014 00:43 GMT
#3624
why are you appealing to palmar if he's a poisoner!??!?!
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
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October 16 2014 01:18 GMT
#3628
like palmar is CONFIRMED poisoner so there's no actual point
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
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October 16 2014 01:37 GMT
#3629
I actually think you're mafia slam so keep convincing me you aren't
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
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October 16 2014 03:26 GMT
#3630
##vote alakaslam
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
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October 16 2014 13:07 GMT
#3634
On October 16 2014 19:05 Palmar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 16 2014 10:18 Holyflare wrote:
like palmar is CONFIRMED poisoner so there's no actual point

Except for the part where I'm not.


Please explain how what i said is false
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
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October 16 2014 13:08 GMT
#3635
Like if you're not poisoner then kelsier is 100% mafia because i rb'd him and poisoner shot still happened but you aren't even voting him rofl
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
October 16 2014 16:04 GMT
#3636
On October 16 2014 15:03 Alakaslam wrote:
Wow. You have no idea of the concept of lampshading?

I am excusing my inability to point out their scumminess by pointing out how ridiculous it was that after what had just transpired, they went inactive instead of seizing the opportunity and yet (apparently) expected their statements and actions to hold water.

So... By pointing it out I made myself wrong because you are a literalist?

I cannot make a satirical point?

Listen to political radio. They always say "where is the rage?" When a political party remains silent on some issue because it doesn't suit their agenda.

I am making the same kind of point.


I don't care what you're doing because it isn't doing anything useful, kelsier hasn't posted in his other game he's playing in at all so that point is redundant.

I'm not particularly bothered what happens on political radio either because politicians are a bunch of useless twat faces that care more about their image than the country they are supposed to be looking after and have no idea what's going on in the real world whatsoever.

I care about what's happening in this game and I want you to prove why you are town when all you've done is purposefully push how you are a poisoner all game and then when push comes to shove you push rhetorical arguments about what they are doing now rather than all game.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
October 16 2014 17:29 GMT
#3639
On October 17 2014 02:03 Palmar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 16 2014 22:07 Holyflare wrote:
On October 16 2014 19:05 Palmar wrote:
On October 16 2014 10:18 Holyflare wrote:
like palmar is CONFIRMED poisoner so there's no actual point

Except for the part where I'm not.


Please explain how what i said is false

you're the poisoner.


with a confirmed green check on me ok palmar
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
October 16 2014 17:35 GMT
#3641
On October 17 2014 02:29 Alakaslam wrote:
I dunno Grack do you understand where I was coming from or is this game actually one I can point to as to why I troll?

Like this is newbie reminescent really. I would make points like this and people repeatedly made it clear that not only did they completely not understand the post, but they didn't understand the explanation.

So why be honest? I'd rather hide frankly,

Stay CHUPAZI my friends; hiiiiijole VATO Wei


all i am reading is that you don't know what makes them scummy so you're pointing out what they are doing today isn't towny but one of the people is actually just afk so can't post and the other is a confirmed poisoner so really not much help at all so then why are you all woe is me?

explain to me why you voted the way you did on every single lynch
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
October 16 2014 17:37 GMT
#3642
i've given you so many opportunities to explain stuff and all you reply is

"boo hoo town loses anyway"
"oh man brits dont get it"
"yeh this is like a newbie game"

that's so very convincing that you are town
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
October 16 2014 19:12 GMT
#3648
wow you are on fucking crack palmar
Holyflare
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October 16 2014 19:34 GMT
#3653
So troll
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
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October 16 2014 19:34 GMT
#3654
The most faked emotion I've ever seen
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
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October 16 2014 19:36 GMT
#3655
Kelsier afking at lylo is pretty rude, his work isn't that long.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
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October 16 2014 19:51 GMT
#3661
So much analysis coming from the non townies
Holyflare
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October 16 2014 19:52 GMT
#3662
Will prob vote kelsier at the end though
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
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October 16 2014 20:06 GMT
#3665
Will you be around for deadline grack?
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
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October 16 2014 22:55 GMT
#3668
mhmmmmmmm
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
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October 16 2014 23:17 GMT
#3669
On October 07 2014 02:51 Alakaslam wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 07 2014 02:46 batsnacks & Alakaslam wrote:
Thanks for that @ObviousOne

We need to talk to hopeless more sson



weirdddd post btw
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
October 16 2014 23:33 GMT
#3671
if kelsier gets modkilled.... yay?
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
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October 16 2014 23:38 GMT
#3672
We can't really win if he does and is town :/
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
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October 16 2014 23:41 GMT
#3674
Does poisoner win with any alignment it's not really clear
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
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October 16 2014 23:42 GMT
#3675
Oh iy is clear I'm blind
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
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October 16 2014 23:42 GMT
#3677
Right well..... Fuck
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
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October 16 2014 23:43 GMT
#3679
Kind of bs that he'd win when rb's resolve first
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
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October 16 2014 23:49 GMT
#3682
there's literally 0 way to win if he's town unless slam is poisoner and they double stacked oats rofl
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
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October 16 2014 23:55 GMT
#3684
yeh i literally couldn't be fucked at all
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
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October 16 2014 23:56 GMT
#3685
hopefully geript is nice and doesn't modkill? <3
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
October 16 2014 23:57 GMT
#3686
yeh he's gonna get modkilled...
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
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October 17 2014 00:03 GMT
#3688
yay drama
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
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October 17 2014 00:34 GMT
#3689
well all we can do is leave vote on mafia slam and end in a moral victory
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
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October 17 2014 00:49 GMT
#3691
UNLESS IM THE FRAMED POISONER


huehuehue
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
October 17 2014 02:11 GMT
#3692
i think it's the best play to just lynch palmar maybe on the super rare off chance kelsiar flips mafia then slam cant be poisoner
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
October 17 2014 02:23 GMT
#3693
and even if he is he's rb'd
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
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October 17 2014 02:41 GMT
#3694
##unvote
##vote palmar
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
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October 17 2014 02:47 GMT
#3696
grack baby come back
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
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October 17 2014 03:06 GMT
#3698
GRACK BABY COME BACK
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
October 17 2014 03:13 GMT
#3700
plus its funneh
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
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October 17 2014 04:10 GMT
#3702
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
October 17 2014 04:27 GMT
#3706
On October 17 2014 13:27 Grackaroni wrote:
We did it HF! we're so good at this game


<3 schweet
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
October 17 2014 04:45 GMT
#3717
On October 17 2014 13:44 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
Yeah, I had a feeling that my HF check was going to be awful. I got really lucky that I turned it into something useful because of the missing KP, which meant that Palmar had to be poisoner anyway.

I figured KSC was really obvious at endgame because of Grack's case, and idk where the liancourt shot came from especially when he had such a strong case to begin with. Yuck.

Oh well, ggwp town. We derd it.



i cannot honestly believe you did not check kelsier when i asked you to -.-
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
October 17 2014 04:46 GMT
#3718
On October 17 2014 13:38 Damdred wrote:
and by palmar in that first thing i meant how HF switched back to me and sealed my fate


i know bro i really didn't want to, it was like that day all my previous gameplay had disappeared and i forgot all my reads =/
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
October 17 2014 04:46 GMT
#3720
also ty for hosting

is 44 pages of filter some kind of record?
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
October 17 2014 04:56 GMT
#3727
sorry lian too! i wouldn't have told grack to shoot you after your posts at that night !!!
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-10-17 04:58:33
October 17 2014 04:57 GMT
#3728
i made the cop case on hopeless before the cop even did

#copnotreallycop
#notreallyredcheck
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
October 17 2014 05:09 GMT
#3730
i think geript was quite harsh to kelsier in that write up, he did exceptionally well as mafia for his (first game?) on this site
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
October 17 2014 11:48 GMT
#3752
Well he wasn't that obvious if he didn't get lynched. Nobody even agreed with me when i said he had a high probability of being mafia day 2 but i guess i/they were being lazy and not reading his filter
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
October 17 2014 13:19 GMT
#3755
Yes that over defensiveness before i even really said anything was well scummy
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