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On October 04 2014 05:06 geript wrote: Essentially that so far. Poisoner isn't required to kill. I've slowly been updating the FAQ. 1-2 roles may change dependent on the final chosen setup. Specifically Vet may get a vest that he can pass off as a night action. dont do this please, it's supposed to be a normal mini after all and the third parties are already borderline enough | ||
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On October 04 2014 06:06 Promethelax wrote: Movable vests have existed in normals before. I don't find them to be outside the realm of normal. Feel free to argue the case though. meh I just don't see things like 3rd party bodyguards with variable win condition and a vet that can gift vests as normal because they are roles that have modifiers on them to make them different from normal | ||
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On October 06 2014 22:57 Oatsmaster wrote: yeah because nobody will claim anything other than VT. ITS A JOKE HOLYFLARE. Then why respond in screaming caps lock if it was just supposed to be a funny joke? That's quite an overreaction for something you are agreeing with batsnacks for (that we shouldn't claim) | ||
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On October 06 2014 22:54 batsnacks wrote: Let's do it. Who are you actually scum reading HF? They're no match for my bat traps. Hopeless and oats, oats because of what I said. He "jokingly" claimed VT because everyone is supposedly going to do the same thing and then when you reveal that you don't actually want people to claim he yells despite saying the same effective thing???? Hopeless because of his weird question which was asking how sure are you on a scum read that's in like the first hour of the game. Pretty weird thing to ask. | ||
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On October 06 2014 23:00 Oatsmaster wrote: It blows my mind how that could be seen as anything other than a joke post. FOR BOTH SCUM AND TOWN WHICH MAKES IT USELESS BAT. COMPLETELY FUCKING USELESS. He said we shouldn't mass claim. Like. He flat out said it was bad. You AGREE WITH HIM..... Yet you are yelling at him..................???!?!?? | ||
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On October 06 2014 23:02 Oatsmaster wrote: no everyone isnt supposed to claim vt. Im yelling cause Bat thought that was a legitimate strat which its not. Nothing to do with the action of claiming. he didn't think it was at all, he literally says the same thing you are saying and you even QUOTE that post and you yell about it "not being a legitimate start" On October 06 2014 22:27 Oatsmaster wrote: dude what the fuck then? Why waste our time? ITS NEVER FUCKING BENEFICIAL TO CLAIM IN A NORMAL GAME DAY 1. WHY THE FUCK DO YOU THINK MAFIA DOES NOT KNOW THAT?? ?!??!?!? | ||
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oats: FUCK YOU MAN WTF CLAIMING IS SHIT TOTALLY A NOT LEGITIMATE START hf: you're saying the same thing and even claimed vt oats: it was a joke! hf: but you still agree about the same thing oats: NO WAY MAN | ||
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On October 06 2014 23:20 Oatsmaster wrote: No right? Yes, im confirmed town. Grack is up in the air. But probably town. HF latching onto this point is really weird and scummy. If it should have been obvious and I'm latching onto these points and misconstruing them so wildly, why do you think it's scummy instead of just misunderstanding because what you're saying is that i'm blatantly lying about something so obvious that everyone should see in order to get you lynched which i don't think would work in any mafia strategy ever. Throughout your time you haven't even said ANYTHING was scummy until now and then criticised batsnacks for wasting time when instead he actually started calling people scummy straight away whereas you haven't shown any semblance of scum hunting whatsoever in your entirety of posting. You still really haven't, all you've posted is that grack is probably town based on ("...") but then neglected to comment on like anything at all. All you've done is got angry that someone started playing the game in a way that you didn't like. | ||
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kelsier reads me as scummy for "flinging shit like slam said" but doesn't really explain how exactly I have been flinging shit and neither does he explain anything to do with oats such as why he'd be frustrated in the first place and then then further brings up the EXACT point I had already raised on hopeless. In essence kelsier's post is a list post with the added scummy bonus of giving out free and easy town reads based on things that shouldn't be free and easy town reads | ||
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On October 07 2014 00:09 Oatsmaster wrote: The whole argument is not planned by you, therefore it's an accident. Holy flare, there have been a grand total of 10 pages in this game. Why do you want me to come up with a page long sheet of nonsense? You only have one scumread. And all your reasons are weak as hell and based on your misunderstanding of the situation. The reason why I think that is scummy is because you are stuck in a mindset that is biased. You want to call me scum and are looking for reasons to back that up. Town would do it the other way around. Your reaction IS scummy, seeing as many other people have mentioned it too I'm pretty sure the majority of people agree. There is no need to be frustrated that someone whose alignment you don't know is doing something you don't agree with and then scum reads you because of a joke. Why would you ever ever ever be frustrated at THAT point? Maybe if he kept pointing it out over and over again you'd be frustrated but he hadn't done anything at that point but instead got people to start discussing things and you are acting salty about how his plan wasn't intended but did good things anyway. There are plenty of things to talk about as well and they don't require masses of posting to discuss. Such as hopeless' scummy question to bs and how you even come about your read of "grack is probably town" based on literally like 3 pages of gameplay. These don't require essays but you still refuse to even elaborate on the read that YOU gave when it should be easy because it's what YOU think. | ||
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I didn't see your thing as a joke > scum read you for claiming and then berating bs for saying we should claim (this was subsequently quashed by you, so scum read gone) I see you react ridiculously to batsnacks because he got people talking and didn't realise you joked whereas you responded normally and not in mass caps to me, you also are frustrated that a player did something that wouldn't find scum (....lol) but then have done nothing to find scum, town read grack based on nothing and then wouldn't explain it when asked. (scum read +++) | ||
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"batsnacks plan is awful because it doesn't find scum!!! WHAT THE FUCK MAN WHY DO YOU THINK THATS GOOD" "batsnacks is so fucking lucky his plan worked and found town" "mafia aren't going to join in a mass claim so early!" "man fuck batsnacks for finding townies, you so lucky batsnacks" | ||
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On October 07 2014 01:31 Alakaslam wrote: Holyflare, Storrzerg, batsnacks team calling it nao Gimme dat baller shot caller épée- Wait this is not OMGUS.net i know 1/3 of this is wrong and i actually think it could just flat out be all wrong | ||
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On October 07 2014 01:32 Alakaslam wrote: I think paraphrasing is an awesome tool for scum. That actually is not quite what oats has been saying sson then please go ahead and prove otherwise | ||
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On October 06 2014 23:05 Oatsmaster wrote: its blatently fucking obvious to anyone with a brain that mass claiming day 1 in a normal setup is bad. Yet bat seems to think that scum dont know that. It irritates me. On October 06 2014 23:07 Oatsmaster wrote: Ok. To make it extremely clear. I am not yelling at bat because I think that mass claiming is a bad idea. Im yelling at bat because he thinks that he can catch mafia by suggesting a mass claim and looking at the replies. On October 06 2014 23:11 Oatsmaster wrote: Batsnacks test is bound to bring up false positives cause scum aint gonna claim first or second or third or fourth. So if scum arnt talking, his test is useless and a waste of time. On October 06 2014 23:20 Oatsmaster wrote: So you arent town then? As scum, if someone suggests a fakeclaim, do you go anywhere near it until most of the thread agrees its a good idea? On October 06 2014 23:27 Oatsmaster wrote: Bat didnt know this though. Which still makes his plan shitty. But lucky. If he's lucky and scum wouldn't do any of this why is bat not a town read at all? Just lucky, had a shitty plan, not doing anything at all, harping on same points? On October 06 2014 23:20 Oatsmaster wrote: No right? Yes, im confirmed town. Grack is up in the air. But probably town. HF latching onto this point is really weird and scummy. | ||
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On October 07 2014 01:36 Alakaslam wrote: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/468053-fantasy-football-ffl-mini?user=Oatsmaster There is all the proof you should require that you are not quoting oats and are therefore attributing further angst to his posts than he actually had (which was plenty) American politics hey look quotes now, maybe you should reread the filter before you have baseless denunciations of people! | ||
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or tmi? how can you just take it as face value town reading bats when he hasn't said bats was town at all previously? | ||
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On October 07 2014 01:43 Alakaslam wrote: It wasn't baseless; you were paraphrasing more emotion into his statements. And I read the whole thing live. I remember and that is why I called you out for paraphrasing. Use quotes EVERY TIME YOU CAN. Paraphrase again and I vote you i can paraphrase anything i want because that's exactly how it happened, he got frustrated about bats wasting time with a bad plan but if he REALLY thought what he thinks, that batsnacks got lucky and found townies then he didn't waste any time at all and so all his frustration isn't even real because what batsnacks did WAS helpful | ||
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On October 07 2014 02:15 ObviousOne wrote: Okay good, now that's out of the way. #1 oats is prob town he's too frustrated and sticking around despite it. By corollary I like HF and batsnacks based on that discussion. #2 don't know what to make of Grack, he was present and participating in a conversation but I don't really see anything alignment indicative after almost a full page of filter #3 interested in the reply from storr re: liancourt Explain the bolded because several others have developed the opposite opinion. | ||
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On October 07 2014 05:04 KelsierSC wrote: HF what do you make of this RNG play from BH? Do you think OO is a good lynch? null possibly | ||
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On October 07 2014 05:33 ObviousOne wrote: Lol holy shit self voting is literally against the rules I should have read at some point. Someone asked bout my oats read and it was cuz he stuck to defending his claim as a joke an participated in tomfoolery ironically Also what? That's completely different to what everyone else has said as well. Why does sticking to his reasoning being a joke make him scummy, what if he was towny and made it as a joke what else would he do? | ||
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On October 06 2014 22:57 Damdred wrote: Oats is being super weird this game and it makes my skin crawl, last time we played he got really defensive about claiming and fought against it pretty hard. That doesn't make me look good on Oats right now. Bat you and me are friends this game! On October 06 2014 23:37 Damdred wrote: When I first read the interchange I was pretty sure that it was a joke, but oats reactions throughout the rest of the thread is just weird. Oats why are you so defensive? I've never seen you play like this after getting called scum, you usually do not react at all just go on about your day, so whats up On October 07 2014 02:35 Damdred wrote: Thats just how BH is, RNG IS LIFE!?! Reading over Oats again, his frustration seems real. A few things do not line up but i'm not so sure its alignment indicative i've never been good at reading oats granted. So are you scum reading BH Kel? Slam. I know you just put hf as a null correct? Do you make anything of hf putting all this pressure on oats? Would it be more town or scum motivated to do everything he did? this is a pretty weird chain of events by the way, incredibly simplified and surface level! First of all you scum read him because when he played scum he did the exact same thing and then suddenly when the topic is pushed aside your read flips and his frustration is real (despite making your skin crawl originally) so much so that you overlook all the inconsistencies. | ||
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On October 07 2014 07:19 Damdred wrote: Of course HF thats what I like to do early, I ask questions guage how people react to them and answer them and put them into my reads later. I don't bust stuff out super fast I have to build up to it unless I know someone well sadly. And besides you still never answered my question why you never voted for oats even after pushing him so hard. because he left and i have no new info, originally i didn't know there was a voting thread and then when i found out i acted like it was just a pressure vote in thread | ||
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On October 07 2014 12:59 ObiWanShinobi wrote: So where's the follow up on your vote? Where's your interest in figuring me out/lynching mafia? You put your vote on me and started talking about random shit, even after two other people called you on your shitvote which you have done nothing to fix. Care to explain? i don't need to follow up when what i can already see is right there in your filter | ||
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not only that but when i called him out on it he acted like there was nothing he COULD do because all his questions are unanswered yet he has not commented on anything that has happened previously apart from this bh thing | ||
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On October 07 2014 13:37 ObiWanShinobi wrote: Okay, so what about my BH argument doesn't make sense? I pointed out why pushing BH because he was pushing an RNG lynch is a useless waste of time since it's factually incorrect to attribute it as a scum characteristic; if BH has an example of him doing this as town, it can't be used to sell a scumtell on him since it's not an inherently scum trait. That's what makes it stupid, and why I want to steer people away from that line of thinking to focus on more important information, IE almost anything else. So what's inherently scummy about pushing conversation away from something provably pointless? Oh right, nothing. Because you've fixated on one aspect of my filter and have completely failed to try to see any potential town motivation as to what I'm doing. Hopeless and I have both called you on your shitvote and you've ignored both of us. Go back and read it unless you feel like ignoring more facts in favor of pushing nonsense. You are trying to steer people away but post nothing of relevance to steer them in any direction whatsoever. THEN you complain that nobody is doing anything. I never even hinted that your BH argument didn't make sense. All you're doing is saying it's alignment null which is what i said in 1 word 7 pages ago "null". You are focused on absolutely nothing else in this game BUT steering people into nothingness and also picking up on some silly point about damd which doesn't make sense because he clearly stated he thought the self vote was an interesting reaction and that's the end of that | ||
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On October 07 2014 14:18 Alakaslam wrote: So I think ObiWanShinobi stuff is null. He could just, you know, not know who is scum yet And yet want to do something But not cool with tossin Chupazi around. But yeah scum do what he is doing too. I think OO may just simply be the lynch but not to stop finding a better target; why shouldn't I be up for lynch hey? but he read through the entire thread and literally has no opinions | ||
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On October 07 2014 08:15 ObiWanShinobi wrote: Just got off work, rereading. straight into how bh does this as every alignment bs, no conclusions from reading, no reads, nothing whatsoever but telling people that what bh is doing is null you have no actual opinions on ANYTHING that happened pre-bh rng | ||
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Only then to complain that nothing is happening and people are lazy only to be the one that hasn't read anything at all so even if we said something you wouldn't know what the fuck we are talking about????? | ||
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On October 07 2014 14:36 Alakaslam wrote: Both of you can't even remember what you what Speak of how scummy I am! I shalt defense myself by becoming a massive dragon you aren't really scummy so no | ||
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On October 07 2014 14:35 ObiWanShinobi wrote: I was focusing on the people trying to get reads off of something you couldn't get reads off of, IE BH's rng lynch nonsense. Seriously I've told you like 50 times get it through your head pls. you've just repeatedly shut down anyone that is scum reading bh and then picked up on damd who isn't even talking about bh, he's talking about OO and actually makes sense in some regards so how can you possibly be getting reads when instead you are just telling them they are wrong and repeating yourself? | ||
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On October 07 2014 14:45 Alakaslam wrote: Whaaaaaaaaaat?! Why not? Speak unto me who hath done NOTHING nothing but spray piss in the air you had knowledge of individual posts (when you were talking to me about oats town reading batsnacks), you showed some analyticalish posts in regards to the thread when the oats thing was happening and you read obi's filter when i said that was the reason for voting him it's not entirely solid reasons to town read you and you're more nullish but it makes you not scummy at least | ||
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On October 07 2014 14:47 ObiWanShinobi wrote: Except this is provably untrue because Hopeless and I were on the same page. Unless, of course, you think we're both mafia which you haven't really addressed at all. slam posts exactly what I said before I even elaborated on it so knows exactly what I mean, grack has also agreed with the sentiment, hopeless' post about me being silly didn't even make any sense and you are the person being scum read | ||
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On October 07 2014 14:50 ObiWanShinobi wrote: This goes both ways. Like we're arguing in circles about the exact same stuff the other person is arguing about. It's really dumb. this quite literally does not go both ways because hopeless' post LITERALLY made no sense, he quoted everything that makes you scummy and then said wtf even if it did make sense i don't even care because why does what he say make anything better? I had a suspicion based on your filter and so i purposefully left my reason for scum reading you a "read your filter" to make sure people were on the same page. Lo and behold they were. | ||
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On October 07 2014 14:20 Holyflare wrote: OO is probably the best lynch today purely because he can't be fucked to play as mafia from what he said when we were mafia together, not to mention that his reads were so back to front this is also still relevant | ||
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On October 07 2014 22:48 Hopeless1der wrote: HF can you confirm/quote OO saying he doesnt care to play scum, I cant find it. totally misremembered what he said but I looked it up and it was that he has no idea what to do as scum and that the one time he played it he just bussed dp and did nothing else all game, I mixed it up with his general inactivity that game and voila! He's still a very good lynch though. | ||
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Also, I rescind my townread on Grack. Not reading the thread =/= alignment indicative, but he pushes me based on the fact that I didn't know whether or not he called BH town. It's an incredibly superficial push and I don't like it. This isn't true by the way, grack is pushing you because you answered hopeless about him and kelsier and you said that you think their both townyish but then later admitted that you hadn't read gracks filter at all | ||
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On October 07 2014 09:04 batsnacks wrote: ebwop I messed up a sentence and it looks weird to me. This: Should be maybe some PEOPLE are worse than robots... it would be funny if this was an actual slip btw | ||
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On October 08 2014 00:49 StorrZerg wrote: he isn't doing anything. And his actions are scummy. He responds to a direct question on who his scum are, and he makes a list post, with his scum being 2 "inactive players" and someone "who asks questions" yet doesn't "give information" yeah thats super town pro thing to do MY BAD it's not a list post it's a reasoned out post about what his reads are in a direct response to someone asking him he he thought was mafia, it follows what I see as a train of thought and a process of elimination which is pretty towny imo | ||
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On October 08 2014 00:56 Holyflare wrote: it's not a list post it's a reasoned out post about what his reads are in a direct response to someone asking him he he thought was mafia, it follows what I see as a train of thought and a process of elimination which is pretty towny imo | ||
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On October 08 2014 01:23 Hopeless1der wrote: u srs.. So he told people why they were scummy, they stopped doing the things that made them scum so now they are not scum. That..is way too straightforward. so sue me, it's my read and i'm sticking to it | ||
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On October 08 2014 01:26 Hopeless1der wrote: Seriously, how trivial are lian's reads? He runs a check for If (Vote RNG candidate), Scum Else, Town That's an updated read? Are you fucking shitting me HF? He came up with the idea that being on an rng wagon would be a very convenient place to hide because then people are just following a rng post and they don't give any information, that IS scummy and is the correct thing to point out. Then, when people who he is scum reading start to interact more and flesh out things he drops that scum read because it goes against what he was originally saying. He continues to scum read BH because he hasn't played with BH and what BH does is terrible=scummy, hearing a million people say it is in fact null moved him to seriously reconsider his stance on BH from scummy to null. His read on oats was before most people even said anything about oats and gave oats room to express more things and in fact showed better reading comprehension than me/batsnacks etc etc. The only weird thing is the OO thing and I'd much rather he explained himself out fully on this instead because I envisage that another skydragon event will occur. Just because you disagree with his thought process does not mean that it is quite evidently there. | ||
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On October 08 2014 01:28 Hopeless1der wrote: OO is a lurker lynch and an RNG lynch. Where the hell is batsnacks..fuck it he doesn't know how to play mafia, he knows how to play town, it's not particularly rng | ||
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On October 08 2014 01:37 Hopeless1der wrote: yeah i'll probably end up here anyways ##Vote: ObviousOne On October 08 2014 01:28 Hopeless1der wrote: OO is a lurker lynch and an RNG lynch. Where the hell is batsnacks..fuck it ...? | ||
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On October 08 2014 01:40 KelsierSC wrote: @bh i don't think anyone is seriously considering oo for the lynch because of the rng but because of his lurkiness and bad posts. my main thing about lian is that he used this as his reason to lynch stor/dam over oo which just felt off to me. @hf you seem to be defending lian for the same reasons you attacked obi. Lian hasn't really given concrete reads just gave everyone a null/weird and then said he would lynch inactives. what makes lian different to obi ? lian has pushed things as scummy and made reads that make sense from someone that hasn't played with bh before and has posted thoughts on pretty much everything that has happened in the game whereas obi said he was reading, posted no thoughts about anything and then just tried to stop the bh scum reading nonsense while commenting on nothing relevant | ||
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I don't want to draw associative tells between unflipped players, but basically I don't find doubting RNG to be inherently unreasonable. Trying to throw lots of doubt on it, then saying that "rng is a method for scum to be using", seems to be something a new player could reasonably believe. If OO flips mafia scum, I'll be much more suspicious of lian. this is where i am at | ||
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On October 08 2014 04:05 batsnacks wrote: HF is accurate because Liam is town If Liam is scum HF is not accurate im not sure how this makes sense either | ||
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On October 08 2014 07:40 Grackaroni wrote: OO lynch also makes me uncomfortable. I've never seen this much support for lynching an inactive before and there's not even meta reasons for him being scum. Obi never answered my question and nobody has commented on this at all. I think this is easily the scummiest thing in the thread. he did answer you by talking to me instead and brushed it off like you were voting him for no reason | ||
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This really isn't helpful for other people because it could just be no mafia is joining because HF/I are mafia and we were trying to find a mislynch but I just like to look at games in this way. don't ruin it man | ||
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On October 08 2014 12:52 ObiWanShinobi wrote: The bottom line is that OO is a policy lynch, plain and simple. Me not contributing towards a policy lynch doesn't make me mafia. Literally the dumbest. no | ||
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On October 08 2014 17:17 Palmar wrote: HF and Obi are the remaining mafia. Probably the worst thing I've read in the thread. | ||
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highly likely there is 1 mafia in this group of people, if i remove my town reads it becomes Obvious One (8): Alakaslam, Oatsmaster, liancourt, KelsierSC, Damdred could probably remove kelsier maybe, which leaves Obvious One (8): Alakaslam, Oatsmaster, liancourt, Damdred super lazy analysis will occur at some point on these 4 | ||
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On October 09 2014 02:57 ObiWanShinobi wrote: I am. I just talked to Kelsier about this. I have several people I'm discussing right now and I don't need more people jumping down my throat about stupid stuff. you said that you have no information on them which isn't really true because you already wanted to lynch grack for something else and then you jumped straight to a bh conspiracy instead of picking out which players were most likely scum out of your list of people off the wagon | ||
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On October 09 2014 03:07 Damdred wrote: Probably that point wasn't clear since I didn't talk much about it. I know that he doesn't choose who to rng, but as scum it would be safer for him to change who gets rng'd instead of someone who is their scum partner the rest of the meta case is the same i just shouldn't of put in that one part. he'd look scummy if he changed it because it's the same as he always does | ||
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i think it's pretty obvious if you were reading mine or bh's (your scum reads filters), it's because of how he handled the OO scum read and didn't vote him on principle but then gave other scum suspects anyway but then voted him right at the end when it didn't really matter anyway | ||
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On October 09 2014 04:19 StorrZerg wrote: @hf what made you change your mind about lian? Magic | ||
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i know you may hate me but I'm ACTUALLY shooting BH, I will very likely die tonight so tomorrow hopefully the cop checks like lian or hopeless (probably hopeless best) | ||
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On October 09 2014 03:15 Holyflare wrote: i think it's pretty obvious if you were reading mine or bh's (your scum reads filters), it's because of how he handled the OO scum read and didn't vote him on principle but then gave other scum suspects anyway but then voted him right at the end when it didn't really matter anyway | ||
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On October 08 2014 09:28 Holyflare wrote: ![]() this is quite obviously proof im the vigi btw | ||
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he also town read people (obi) and attacked me instead when i started bringing up cases on obi, he apparently "didn't read him" which makes it even worse and the rest of his filter is pretty generic commenting on nothingness with no conclusions, he also did a really really flip floppy switch to OO after saying he was just a policy etc etc I did like lian for a towny but his post about not wanting to lynch OO now looks really scummy that OO has flipped mafia, he really would be a great cop check :/ i mean like... there's so many peripheral people it's hard to choose between them... palmar looks really 3pish to me, he has the semi look of towny palmar but none of the gusto that i'd usually attribute to him when he starts giving reads bh is going to get shot so yeh there's that too | ||
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On October 09 2014 12:44 Damdred wrote: Why shoot bh over hopeless or loan though? because he's definitely mafia | ||
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On October 09 2014 12:53 Blazinghand wrote: HF I'm pretty sure you never scumread me, or gave me like a legit reason why you thought I was scum. I wish there was a way you were scum, but there isn't, assuming you're really shooting me. medic, don't save HF. He'll probably use his second bullet like he used his first. horribly. no i didn't ever put my read on you in the thread because i knew nobody would believe me and i can just shoot you anyway | ||
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if you're town it's just the same because then they still shoot someone peripheral or waste a kp stacking with me to frame me which will most definitely fail | ||
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On October 09 2014 13:06 Alakaslam wrote: ... Well where's the check bro | ||
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On October 09 2014 13:07 ObiWanShinobi wrote: I thought you were waiting for a red check on lian. Are you even going to lynch anyone without checks. oh or that yeh | ||
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On October 09 2014 13:12 Grackaroni wrote: lol ok what the hell I'm just going to claim. I was the one who shot Oats. I was deciding between Oats/Hopeless at the end of the day and I decided that I'd have an easier time reading Hopeless. I'm really salty because I was wrong twice in a row now on Oats. Not sure what happened to the scum shot it probably hit HF oh dude... that was a bad shot T_T | ||
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On October 09 2014 13:13 Grackaroni wrote: His reaction at the start of the game was really weird though and he kept pushing newer players so I thought it was his scum play tis trueee | ||
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On October 09 2014 13:13 Blazinghand wrote: oh, HF isn't the medic? nvm ##unvote OWS ##vote HF if you think i didn't just soak up a mafia night kill then you are retarded | ||
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On October 09 2014 13:21 ObiWanShinobi wrote: The shenanniest of shenannigans. Seriously though, let me take the wheel. I got this shit. ##vote hopeless1der you can lead town now, i'm going away for a few days anyway | ||
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On October 09 2014 13:43 Alakaslam wrote: Absolutely true! Now, if I have something to hide, am not particularly bad, but am still not scum, what could I be? ahhh you claiming 3p ![]() | ||
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On October 09 2014 17:10 liancourt wrote: that would mean i would believe grack is vig u are cop and that there is a doctor. I believe none of it and just see mafia killing oats. If you just see mafia killing oats then you should be voting grack for fake claiming vigilante | ||
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On October 09 2014 17:27 liancourt wrote: i should be voting you for fake claiming vig and cop and claiming there is a medic. But i'm inclined to think this was just another one of your "ploys". Like I said, you seem to enjoy trolling. If you think Blazinghand is town then i saved your town read by claiming vig. If you really really think oatsmaster was a likely mafia kill after doing absolutely nothing the entire game I'm almost forced to believe you are mafia. | ||
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If you live in my world where grackaroni is the vigilante then the mafia either stacked with him which is very very unlikely or they hit a veteran or medic save. | ||
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On October 09 2014 18:13 liancourt wrote: if you live in my world the vigi would have killed obi because of what happened at the end of day and everyone was piling on him. So then are you calling grackaroni mafia or not??? Also i called obi town, only 1 or 2 called him mafia. | ||
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On October 09 2014 18:24 liancourt wrote: all i see is multiple people trolling to get a serious answer from someone. i'm rather inclined to think a vt would troll claim vig and see who responds to it. I kinda find it odd you change your stance on obi so quick after you were going down his throat yesterday. I changed my stance on him part way through day 1 but pressured him a lot more to make sure. How is that relevant? How does what grack did look anything like a fake claim at all? | ||
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On October 09 2014 18:54 liancourt wrote: you know I would have half believed him if there were 2 night kills but no Which brings us back to the question of why on earth would mafia kill oatsmaster...... | ||
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On October 09 2014 19:54 liancourt wrote: then what i don't understand is why he'd claim because he'll die by mafia hands on n2. the medic? what if mafia shot a vet? Why would he die n2 when he could be medic saved...? Are mafia just going to guess whether there is a vet or medic and then risk shooting him anyway? I really don't think so. | ||
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On October 10 2014 04:51 KelsierSC wrote: pointing out a myriad of legit reasons why someone is scum Yes when you put them altogether it looks incredibly scummy but this guy got lynched like 9/10 times in his initial games as town so much so he remade a different account just to hide that terrible meta | ||
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On October 10 2014 05:12 ObiWanShinobi wrote: Easy; your reads are consistent with the thread and you're putting more effort into pressuring people/gathering information instead of dropping poorly thought out meta reads a la almost every scum game you've played ever. The way you're interacting with the thread reflects a desire to understand rather than a desire to look for easy lynch targets. Which is what i did all day yesterday when you scum read me....? | ||
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If obi was mafia and like you are assuming, is pushing a mislynch on hopeless, why would he argue and be this annoying instead of just explaining the first time and thus getting you off him onto his mislynch? | ||
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On October 10 2014 06:24 KelsierSC wrote: Alright going to sleep again. I think I need to reevaluate obi tomorrow when I can look with a clearer head. Still think he is scum for now. Lian second scum most likely. not really happy with dam's contribution today , need to hear what slam thinks about obi/hope. Damd has done more today than yesterday and he's pushing your scum read lian but you're not happy with him?? | ||
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On October 10 2014 06:46 Palmar wrote: HF can you please stop the bs and tell us yes or no on if you're actually claiming cop? Lynch hopeless | ||
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On October 10 2014 11:30 Hopeless1der wrote: i am entirely too drunk/tired to finish this right now. I stand by damdred>lian. will read kelsier storr and slam (I probably wont read slam, lets be honest here) in the morning and then try to get someone who's not me lynched. Probably damdred. We're still 1000% lynching this guy, this is the 3rd promise of more reads into afking. Also free town read on obi. | ||
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Think about hopeless' reaction to me in the last game where i lynched him "fuck you guys modkill hf for vote count, u bad" then look at this game where I'm his never lynch list | ||
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On October 11 2014 00:32 Hopeless1der wrote: storr and kelsier town. will make case on damdred shortly. More free unexplained town reads?? | ||
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On October 11 2014 00:57 Hopeless1der wrote: I'm going through the game and making certain that those two are in fact the scummiest players to me before I go about pushing a lynch on anyone. Does that not make sense? Should I just RNG a new target and push them incessantly instead of reading the game? This post Mod 12, storr is 0 Your whole game is throwing out random town reads that don't make sense and don't line up with any thought process. What really blew it for you was calling me town so conveniently based on those points you listed. I've been saying scum is very likely to bus OO because that's what he asked to do last game he was mafia and cba to play, however as you pointed out, my reason before that was "made up" therefore to you all I've done is randomly defend your scum read, pushed a flipped town and lie about a reason so that people hop on a mafia wagon. All those things are very likely for me to do as mafia. Very very likely. Yet they are super weird for anyone to town read me on. These are pretty much your only elaborated reads in the entire game too, the rest of your never lynch list isn't explained at all. All of these town reads aren't explained. Yojr scum reads aren't explained and haven't changed. And my red check ![]() | ||
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On October 11 2014 01:10 Hopeless1der wrote: so...im NOT supposed to be reading you as town HF? like wtf is your argument? I didnt solid townread you until N1. People aren't really listening that i have a red check so I'm convincing them | ||
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On October 11 2014 01:12 Hopeless1der wrote: oshit ##unvote ##vote Hopeless1der NOOO THE RULES WONT LET ME BE CONFIRRMED TOWN Yes well at least that's correct | ||
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On October 11 2014 02:26 StorrZerg wrote: if vig is real, what happened in the night. O_o Are you new to mafia?? | ||
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On October 11 2014 02:44 Alakaslam wrote: I am busy posting as a landlocked 16 year old lovesick red headed Princess of the sea people. Because right when I say "damd totes town" hopeless1der comes in here with dat case Are you saying his case was good? | ||
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Well is your last post saying so much volume he's town or so much volume full of dead stuff that grows out of bodies? | ||
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On October 11 2014 04:18 KelsierSC wrote: Hope the only reason i town read you is that obi is the one pushing to lynch you A very bad reason | ||
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On October 11 2014 04:40 Blazinghand wrote: I am kinda amazed that I can't get a lynch going on OWS. It's basically my fault for not playing this right, not appealing to what people think is scumtells, instead using my own logic. My goal isn't to convince myself, it's to convince you guys now. In any case, I'm back and will read the damdred case, and see what the deal is. Let me know if you guys need anything from me. The case on hopeless is far more convincing or are you actually mafia? | ||
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On October 10 2014 21:26 Holyflare wrote: Like anyone not lynching hopeless after reading his filter or his actions the past day and night needs to go do that and then stop giving excuses about other scum reads and join this wagon. Think about hopeless' reaction to me in the last game where i lynched him "fuck you guys modkill hf for vote count, u bad" then look at this game where I'm his never lynch list On October 11 2014 00:50 Holyflare wrote: All you've done is stick to damd/liam being scummy and then thrown out these free town reads conveniently and you still call them scummy before even reading everyone else. On October 11 2014 00:54 Holyflare wrote: Because you more than conveniently don't explain anything about like 90% of your reads and you have these 2 scum reads but nothing about them ever changes so reading these other people looks really odd from you when you don't say anything about why they're town over damd/lian being scum. It's really really strange that you have 2 scum reads but wpuld rather arbitrarily call other people town instead of pushing them | ||
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On October 10 2014 15:45 Holyflare wrote: We're still 1000% lynching this guy, this is the 3rd promise of more reads into afking. Also free town read on obi. On October 11 2014 01:02 Holyflare wrote: Your whole game is throwing out random town reads that don't make sense and don't line up with any thought process. What really blew it for you was calling me town so conveniently based on those points you listed. I've been saying scum is very likely to bus OO because that's what he asked to do last game he was mafia and cba to play, however as you pointed out, my reason before that was "made up" therefore to you all I've done is randomly defend your scum read, pushed a flipped town and lie about a reason so that people hop on a mafia wagon. All those things are very likely for me to do as mafia. Very very likely. Yet they are super weird for anyone to town read me on. These are pretty much your only elaborated reads in the entire game too, the rest of your never lynch list isn't explained at all. All of these town reads aren't explained. Yojr scum reads aren't explained and haven't changed. And my red check ![]() More stuff | ||
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Wonderful of you. You've made no new comment on damd after his perfect towny defence btw. Going to stick to that one read then? | ||
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On October 11 2014 05:08 KelsierSC wrote: Point is obi hasn't made a single good point on hope he just prodded to see if he could get a wagon going and then just posted a lot of noise and drivel. He actually has made good points i dunno wtf you are talking about. | ||
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On October 11 2014 05:12 KelsierSC wrote: which was good? he asked you to explain a read after you posted "reasons" he didn't step in and stop you and obi fighting. Yeh lots of people , discussion is good yo That's not the reason he scum read hopeless at all. That's incredibly false of you. Read his filter again. | ||
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On October 11 2014 05:16 KelsierSC wrote: i read his arguments that is the basis i see, not false at allowed Oh fuck this noise I'm going to prove you wrong because I've actually read. | ||
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On October 10 2014 00:59 ObiWanShinobi wrote: Alternatively we can lynch him for playing like mafia. As in the majority of his filter is filler and he's basically avoided giving his opinion on almost anything at all, IE he's avoiding stepping on any toes. I get that you're trying to analyze his actions, but if he doesn't take any actions at all there's not going to be a whole lot to analyze. On October 10 2014 01:00 ObiWanShinobi wrote: Cool, a bunch of unexplained obvious townreads and a scumread that he never bothered to follow up on or pressure at any point. Theres so much more than this too. If you said my reasons are good then by extension obi's are too. I don't thiiink I'd even written anything about hopeless at that point either. You're scum reading obi further for not explaining his town read on me when he did and it actually makes sense (town reading him when he was under pressure etc) instead of jumping further on me whereas when hopeless exhibits all of these traits with far scummier motives you ignore him because of obi who IS actually explaining | ||
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On October 11 2014 05:32 Blazinghand wrote: fwiw literally 95%+ of what HF has said today is scummy since he's trying to shut down all kinds of reasonable discourse or alternative wagons by calling people scum for not voting along with him, rather than writing a real case or exploring reads. Fuck off have i not written a case. I literally just copied everything to condense it too | ||
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On October 11 2014 05:37 Hopeless1der wrote: Half of your case is "redcheck" nonsense, can you blame BH for being semi-illiterate? Absolutely 0 of my case is this red check nonsense. Please show where i said that. | ||
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On October 11 2014 06:09 Hopeless1der wrote: Grack what else do you have about me being scum that I can debunk sooner rather than later? Explain all of your never lynch list | ||
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On October 11 2014 06:21 Grackaroni wrote: I don't think these are very good reasons for scum reading Hopeless. These posts are a much more apt description of Palmar's play really. This isn't the reasons I'm giving for hopeless this is that obi did give reasons but kelsier is saying he isn't. | ||
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Have you read it...? "bh playing game" "bat traps" "palmar being a twat" "grack un cc'd vig" Really silly reads that show no thought of the game and pick up really random things to give a necer lynch town read. Ridiculous. Then he all out wants to lynch damd despite nobody agreeing and then falls flat when that's over with. | ||
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On October 11 2014 06:23 Hopeless1der wrote: But I did explain why you're town. And it was "Magic" I gave a real answer that had reasons and wasnt retarded and everything. But noooo hopeless is full of unexplained bullshit and excuses. Battraps legit BH - Actually playing the game, grack - un cc'd vig claim palmar - least strong read but: Vet Status+ + | ||
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On October 11 2014 08:43 KelsierSC wrote: so I'm mafia? but now you want to lynch my top scum read i dont evenings It's quite a high feeling of you being scum yes but that's from just generally being around you and your actions and not a real breakdown of your filter. Hopeless is still the best lynch but you still won't stfu about obi for the rest of the game and neither will bh till he dies. I'm conceding to your lynch so grack can shoot hopeless. | ||
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On October 11 2014 08:47 KelsierSC wrote: Also i just destroyed your entire argument so if your timezone thing is the best you got then we can get off this shitfest and actually look at people who might be lynched today You didn't destroy any argument at all about you being mafia because i haven't made it yet? | ||
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On October 11 2014 08:49 KelsierSC wrote: i raised several valid points about obi and asked.him repeatedly to defend himself, he didn't do so. If i want him to answer and he refuses i cant be to blame. again you still think.im.scum after i just refuted everything you said I have quite literally said nothing about you other than i think you could be scummy so there is absolutely nothing for you to refute yet. I have no idea what you are saying and the shot on me is what gives me pause for lynching hopeless over say lian etc. | ||
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On October 11 2014 08:52 KelsierSC wrote: You said my town reads irked you i want to lynch obi i didn't question your cop claim. dont back out now bro i did warn you How does you wanting to lynch obi answer anything I've written about your town reads being weird and i haven't even pointed out which ones yet? Like. I don't even know what you're talking about because i haven't written anything other than me thinking you are weird yet?? | ||
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On October 11 2014 08:59 Blazinghand wrote: Don't see why it's anyone but the cop's decision how and when to claim. Get off your high horse. You don't know what the check is. A check on lian or hopeless green or red will quite literally solve the game. There is no mafia rber left and it's impossible for them to die tomorrow. | ||
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On October 11 2014 08:59 KelsierSC wrote: Also all you wrote about my town reads being weird is "his town reads irk me" this is an incredibly untrue and superficial read something you just accused hope of. come on man if you call me scum I'm going to break you down into a mass of blood and tears. Yes but unlike hopeless i intend to fully back it up and make posts about it and this lynch of yours will be quite telling. | ||
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On October 11 2014 09:03 Blazinghand wrote: right, which means that the cop doesn't have one of those, so bugger off for now. he knows what he's doing I'm sure That's impossible to know and he might have a check on them and just not be saying anything when he should be | ||
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On October 11 2014 09:02 Hopeless1der wrote: HF how do you know you were shot? I know | ||
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On October 11 2014 09:04 Blazinghand wrote: if he had a check on one of them and could end the game by claiming, he'd claim. don't be annoyed just because the cop didn't check 2 of the 13 players who were alive n1 If you have something useful to say about an actual mafia hopeless wagon then say it otherwise go away with your useless obi talk and cop tactics | ||
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On October 11 2014 09:06 KelsierSC wrote: but you havent you have lied repeatedly throughout this accusation. you said "where did i say anything about obi" even though that is part of your opening argument. all you did was come in and say hey guys kelsier is scum i have a strong read. and your reasons are all shit with no backup. Backup your bullshit about my town reads being bad. oh wait in eu timezone pfft have to be mafia. The eu timezone is about lian not you, my read is a feeling one and i read your filter earlier and thought it looked pretty scummy. You're literally being silly and attacking for no reason because i haven't posted a case yet and when i do you can go ahead and "destroy my bull shit" but until then stfu and let's lynch obi | ||
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On October 11 2014 09:06 batsnacks wrote: HF if you don't go back to voting hopeless you're mafia. It's too late for you to change your mind after all the red check bs today. Well I'm not mafia and i can do whatever i want but thanks for the advice on how to play mafia in the future | ||
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On October 11 2014 09:15 KelsierSC wrote: again you lie. You did make a case on me. slam what was that thing you posted about people.lying I don't know how many times i have to say it but i haven't made any case on you. The me being shot is a case why it's more likely a eu timezone person is mafia and so hopeless might actually not be mafia and the conclusion i reached was lian might be mafia. The other part of the post showed something that irked me which you didn't actually address so w/e you say. If i made a case it would contain quotes and be damning. | ||
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On October 11 2014 09:16 batsnacks wrote: Besides it would be really cool if HF is mafia. If he is mafia the fake vigi claim, into killing oats, into the fake cop claim is brilliant and I would be happy if HF tried to pull something like that off. So then grack is mafia or i no shot?? | ||
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On October 11 2014 09:16 Blazinghand wrote: hmm, so HF just cause i'm confused and stupid and bad at reading, why are you lynching the obviously scummier OWS? So you and kelsier will stfu | ||
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I've also said lians case was bad because i town read damd. | ||
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On October 11 2014 09:26 KelsierSC wrote: that doesn't address the contents of his case though. you attacked me with 3 points. 1) my town reads irked you - superficial and untrue read, all my town reads have good reasoning. Back it.up 2) i scum read obi. Yeh because he is scummy as fuck and doesn't defend himself , just says lynch jopr. All my points are valid 3) i didn't question your cop claim, yep because i town read you and i thought fake vigi real cop was smart. Obi pushed on hope i think obi is scum. So hope is town and could be framed. I never wrote anything about points 2 and 3. | ||
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On October 11 2014 09:27 KelsierSC wrote: you called me scum first dude. If you think defending yourself when someone calls you town is "pathetic" then you probably shouldn't call anyone scum. Well you just proved that you didn't read what i wrote at all so you are arguing with your town read about semantics of a post that wasn't even a full blown accusation that you could refute so instead of picking out who mafia is or talking to anyone else you're being very petty over something you didn't read properly. | ||
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Nowhere do i mention point 2 that your scum read of obi is scummy. Nowhere do i mention point 3 about you not questioning me about being cop | ||
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Me saying i red checked hopeless You saying hopeless was framed You continue to scum read obi That is the weirdest reaction ever and has nothing to do with w/e nonsense you are talking about | ||
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I'm talking about questioning your read and your rebuttal is that it doesn't matter obi is scummy. Lol. You don't even look for the town motivation or anything at the time you just jump to the most foreign idea first. Which is weird. | ||
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On March 19 2014 11:34 Hopeless1der wrote: coag for seal HF for being dense and altogether not useful rayn for being rayn palmar for general pigheadedness and his early game telling me to piss off DP for general demeanor though tbh I could cherry pick a reasonable conspiracy/association case from him Btw this is the read hopeless made on palmar in titanic paint and palmar was mafia. Hopeless should know his never die palmar read doesn't make palmar town. | ||
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A normal thought process is: "hey this guy has a red check on the target my scum read is lynching, maybe I'm wrong especially as this cop said he was checking lian and said to others to check lian, maybe my scum read is wrong!" A weird one that looks scummy: "oh this guy told ppl to check lian but then checked hopeless but my scum read is voting hopeless so I'm right let's just say hopeless was framed instead of rethinking things! Fuck voting this guy or even talking about the red check guy ever because my target is voting him! " Guess which one you chose. | ||
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On October 11 2014 09:45 Hopeless1der wrote: so instead of telling keliser why he's mafia, HF chooses to research old games where he proves that I'm as bad as I ever was. well done holyflare. =\ Im on my phone he's not any of my lynch choices tonight, i haven't properly thoroughly read his filter and made a case, i haven't posted anything to do with him other than a suspicious thought process at the start of the day and how he developed his town reads bugged me. It's not going to happen tonight. | ||
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On October 11 2014 09:52 batsnacks wrote: Do they tell stories about the boy who cried wolf where you live? You know what happens to the boy? His story comes true. I also clearly meant NAT (not another translator) which is a translation software for blind people which is notoriously bad at reading. | ||
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On October 11 2014 10:00 batsnacks wrote: He's not trolling he's mafia. Obiwan has a majority right now because of my vote on HF. Hopeless will dodge the lynch if nothing changes. I'm still lynching hopeless you tool | ||
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On October 11 2014 10:08 Blazinghand wrote: what a surprise, hf trolling again such unexpect many surprise wow I like to spice things up a bit | ||
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On October 11 2014 10:08 Alakaslam wrote: So are we the only ones here HF? I won't be here forever but then you prolly don't have much to say to me You probably have to be shot at some point unless you become coherent and do stuff like you did at the very start of day 1. | ||
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On October 11 2014 10:23 Alakaslam wrote: I find it amusing, during the timing I wanted to be misread, folks were in a firm "slam is untouchable" mindset Now folks be like "I have no clue what he is" Like you all drunk foh dayz? Sloooooooow reaction times. Everyone all like "slam maybe scum taunting us? Mebbe he is scum?" When all n1, it was like 10,000 yandere at HF Like srs What could yandere mean but poison? And acted like BH not gonna die. That was other 3p the martyr claim. But only now, after I had been yelling "I AM SKIMMU ATTAX ME" day 1 now ppl waking up to see some train left on a plane long ago. This is false because the first thing i did today was question you about being a 3p and the radar crap. Day 1 i thought you were towny and explained it but day 2 you have been an unreadable mess and I'd rather get a vig to shoot you rather than question you and have to read into meanings and decipher what you write when i know you are perfectly capable of being coherent and actually coming up with good reads. | ||
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On October 11 2014 10:34 StorrZerg wrote: liam >>>>>>>(bats)*>>>>>>>>>>>>> holy > damnd > obi if i had an order for possible lynches today *+ Show Spoiler + only cause he pissing me off and is and idiot You think im mafia rofl? | ||
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On October 11 2014 10:35 Alakaslam wrote: Yes but you thinks I own perfection? For should not there be a mistake in the act, revealing to thee my true motive? I don't think you own anything, revealing what you're doing has no meaning really, i just want you to play and have actual reads like you used to when i played with you in newbies and even though you spammed like crazy actually gave good insight into things. Now you're just devolving into spam, want to deceive people and aren't really bothered how things go in the scheme of things or at least don't make it known. Your day 1 start i was actually happy you were playing. Now i am not. | ||
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On October 11 2014 10:38 Blazinghand wrote: So the case on H1 is 1. H1 doesn't explain anything about 90% of his reads. he has many "these people are odd" reads. 2. H1 reads damd and lian as being scum, and instead of pushing them, townreads a bunch of other people. 3. The townreads he throws up are nonsensical and don't come from any reason 4. HF acted scummy and H1 townread HF for it is this accurate? +the oo wagon switch and his absence from conversations just to have no conclusion after and his pushing of damd despite almost none of his points showing a mafia mindset | ||
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On October 11 2014 10:40 Blazinghand wrote: OK, so a nonsensical townread on HF. just out of curiosity, did this townread begin during N1 or D2? N1 but the majority of his reasons were day 1, i don't really think he scum read me i can't remember | ||
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On October 11 2014 10:43 Alakaslam wrote: I burnout. 500rwhp you know. When none try @ me I also cease to try @ them. Thing is I conftown too fast; I cannot tell what feo what except by FIGHT but not fight over whether or not I should be banned. That is horse feces. However Coag used to get amusement from that and DP might think it was funny so I don't worry about that anymore. Anyway yup someone said BH would be insufferable Guess what Yes well when you've been posting like you have people find it impossible to interact with you because you make it seemingly impossible to read any of your posts so people don't even want to start to interact with you further because they have to read text that says wtf to them. We are only humans with a limited patience to interact with things that don't follow the conventional norms of sentences and such. While some people find it fun, a lot of them do not. I don't want you banned and that isn't storrs intention either i am pretty sure he is just a little frustrated that you don't play conventionally. I'll try and interact with you better at least if you try and answer me in a way i can understand properly. | ||
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On October 11 2014 10:56 Alakaslam wrote: Composition is key. Dry, MLA composition. It's like that NerfNow comic; Morgan is up in there doing a ton of tower defense math and is like "this is fun" Which I get. But when people are seriously like Meh actually probably better if I piss offt. I keep remembering that dolt on Smashboards and transposing that here which is unfair since I am going wayyy deeper into association and reference here than I did there and the response is like 1,000 times more reasonable. And I am still getting pissy about it and trolling. Which was already unfair. Just put on some cool calming music. Take a few minutes to forget whatever happened elsewhere and here and just tell me what you think. I don't really mind if it's even association based. | ||
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If you were to tie with storr despite neither of you being up for lynch why would it make you both mafia ehhh? | ||
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On October 11 2014 11:20 StorrZerg wrote: if i admit to being his team mate can we lynch him? Can lynch you first to confirm ![]() | ||
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On October 11 2014 11:30 Hopeless1der wrote: he says yes, if I flip town he is scum. Save yourself man | ||
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On October 11 2014 11:36 Hopeless1der wrote: because this is worse than last game. At least then I was literally all excuses and no content. Now I've actually tried and no one is giving a shit, I'm still getting scumread for bullshit and my counterwagon is probably town. So if we're not lynching damd who else is there? | ||
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Hopeless is in my towncircle too. Definitely don't hate his filter because it looks like he's trying to push the thread forward and isn't getting bogged down in nonsense. I'm just getting strong townfeels from him. (Though I don't know how you expected me to get a ton of things down when someone is putting me through the ringer for next to nothing so early. Idk.) Obi why did you write this day 1 but then day 2 say hopeless' filter looks like classic mafia? | ||
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On October 11 2014 12:22 ObiWanShinobi wrote: That's it? After you flip the fuck out over me not engaging mafia? That's all you have to say? I'm saying meh because you both could be town | ||
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On October 11 2014 12:26 ObiWanShinobi wrote: Why is he town? All day you went on about Hopeless being obvious mafia, and I still think that he is. Where is this coming from? Should i paste the same picture that i did to palmar about the pot and kettle? You scum read me all day 1, voted for me and changed that read immediately in a night and now it's bad i can change a read? | ||
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On October 11 2014 12:27 liancourt wrote: you realize that now when we have 33 mins left? Did hopeless start magically posting before now? No. | ||
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On October 11 2014 12:34 ObiWanShinobi wrote: I don't see it. Even if I did, I still can't see the contradictions in his play be worth overlooking to consider not lynching him over it. He had plenty of time to defend himself but put me on /ignore when I engaged him over it. What contradictions are you even talking about? | ||
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On October 11 2014 12:34 Grackaroni wrote: ha what happened to being so convinced you were shot Alcohol | ||
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On October 11 2014 12:35 ObiWanShinobi wrote: The ones I pointed out at day start. Quote them | ||
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Everyone in werewolf knows how detrimental it is to leave discussion on the same thing for so long, like skydragon, only to get lynched and flip town later. I'd rather get it over with now, stick to what we discussed in the day rather than at deadline and reevaluate after the flip | ||
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On October 11 2014 13:03 Holyflare wrote: Sweet i am sick at this game Like i know i had my doubts but my red check pulled through | ||
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On October 11 2014 13:08 Grackaroni wrote: Yeah but then HF said I would have to shoot into Hopeless or Obi if we lynched someone else so I figured it'd be much easier to give HF his lynch and then shoot whoever I felt like shooting <3 | ||
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On October 11 2014 13:09 liancourt wrote: well now i know why hope didnt post that gravestone Why did you not vote on anyone despite saying we needed to kill them so discussion wouldn't be just about them? | ||
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On October 11 2014 13:16 StorrZerg wrote: or you are the psner O_o doesn't matter right now. I would concede if i was because i wouldn't live till lylo after killing 2 mafia | ||
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On October 11 2014 13:20 Grackaroni wrote: Why would anyone believe your red check after you spent the whole night pretending to be a vig? I think faking vig to get healed but turning out to be cop and saving a towny would be a pretty good plan | ||
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3p look for the apathetic ppl that don't give a shit who is lynched: slam, palmar (very likely based on day 1 and 2), etc | ||
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On October 11 2014 13:36 StorrZerg wrote: hf you stop that right now. ? | ||
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On October 11 2014 13:57 batsnacks wrote: What if HF is mafia and killed his whole team? Tee hee | ||
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On October 11 2014 14:00 ObiWanShinobi wrote: How the fuck does anyone have me as mafia at this point. How in the actual fuck. Boo hoo | ||
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On October 11 2014 14:03 liancourt wrote: I'd give him an oscar because that would be so fucked up and mind blowing that I would want him to win if he was mafia playing like this. I've done it before | ||
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On October 11 2014 05:03 Holyflare wrote: Dude bh you're trying to push a counter wagon off of scum. You're doing the exact thing you're scum reading obi for. Are you now mafia? Hehe | ||
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On October 11 2014 09:46 Holyflare wrote: Kelsier you're so dumb it's unbelievable. A normal thought process is: "hey this guy has a red check on the target my scum read is lynching, maybe I'm wrong especially as this cop said he was checking lian and said to others to check lian, maybe my scum read is wrong!" A weird one that looks scummy: "oh this guy told ppl to check lian but then checked hopeless but my scum read is voting hopeless so I'm right let's just say hopeless was framed instead of rethinking things! Fuck voting this guy or even talking about the red check guy ever because my target is voting him! " Guess which one you chose. | ||
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On October 11 2014 14:20 liancourt wrote: so HF is cop grack is vig and there is indeed a medic? so what HF said at the beginning of the day were all true? holy moly... No I'm a roleblocker | ||
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On October 11 2014 14:00 Holyflare wrote: Just going to continue with what i was saying earlier. I am the town roleblocker and i rb'd hopeless n1 so nobody was framed. If you have checks they are legit. This is the truth | ||
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What happens if the godfather is roleblocked and investigated on the same night? He returns as mafia-aligned. I'm gonna rb KelsierSC so cop check him | ||
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On October 11 2014 21:41 Palmar wrote: rekt! You still claiming not 3p? | ||
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palmar, slam, snacks to an extent (maybe) im rbing kelsier, check him, shoot liam maybe, look at what i said about kelsier but also remember the funky oo thing from lian and the not being on hopeless or obi despite wanting the convo to end about 2 of them (probably didn't want to vote a team mate), don't count damd out because of hopeless they needed to do crazy stuff after being down a player day 1 so a bus is really plausible and he could have made a case on his team mate thinking that it was easy to push scummy things on someone who is actually scum but i think damd is after kelsier/lian tbh | ||
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On October 12 2014 13:36 ObiWanShinobi wrote: With the knowledge that we now know that a mafia shot is missing, it's incredibly likely that there's a mafia inside of the high profile players who all normally take shots early. Let's take a look at the player list of people left and why they would be shot night 1: Obi - Flattering, but nobody is going to shoot me night one. Damdred - Not a night one shot. Grack - Confirmed vigi, isn't dead. Obviously wasn't shot. Holyflare - Possibly shot, condemned by mafia on their death bed. Palmar - Another possible shot. KSC - Not a night one shot. Slam - Slam never dies. Ever. Not a night one shot. Storr - Maybe. I'd probably need someone to talk it over with me. So in the end, we're left with the most likely night 1 kills: Holyflare, Palmar, and Storr. After yesterday, there's no chance Holyflare is scum. He already knows the benefit of CFDing onto another target with such controversy surrounding players the way that lynch went down. And there's no reason to believe that he wouldn't have been able to pull that off. So we're left with Storr and Palmar. This analysis is terrible because if there's mafia inthe high profile players why would a shot be missing??? | ||
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On October 12 2014 21:03 StorrZerg wrote: why damd? i thought you had super town read on him poe bro who else could it be? unless my red check is actually kelsier being mafia | ||
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On October 12 2014 21:45 Palmar wrote: meh roleblocks don't get announced so nvm. I don't think you're roleblocker ![]() well i was pretty sure i was going to die tonight and it's silly that i'm not actually dead even if i was poisoner because a medic couldn't save me and if im a poisoner and hopeless supposedly called it out then i have no vest left either so in order to not shoot me they either went for a cop hunt on batsnacks which is very very likely or some weird kill on bh and the poisoner killed batsnacks.... which would be weird although logically a good kill because he's not a likely protect either way i thought i was dead so i left my honest role and actions, rber n1'd hopeless = told cop to not worry about frames, n2 i blocked kelsier so you can pretty much see tomorrow if a poisoner kill goes through | ||
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On October 12 2014 23:01 ObiWanShinobi wrote: I already suggested that Palmar was the poisoner. My giant post is that one of the high profile players is the poisoner. I never called you mafia. BH was universally townread. I don't know what you're trying to say here. With the knowledge that we now know that a mafia shot is missing, it's incredibly likely that there's a mafia inside of the high profile players who all normally take shots early. | ||
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Hopeless has been null to me most of the game, however there are some things that make me uncomfortable about this lynch. hopeless was null to a lot of people and hf said he wasn't sure why he was reading him town, he was in the OO vote which is where I am sure a mafia lies. It could possibly be that he was framed. like this post makes 100% no sense whatsoever | ||
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On October 13 2014 10:08 Alakaslam wrote: What you want me to do HF Not really sure.... Talk to me about storr? | ||
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On October 13 2014 21:10 Palmar wrote: I don't like lynching KelsierSC, he cares way too much. damdred didn't even respond or mention at all that I wanted to lynch him. He's a much better lynch. Go away | ||
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On October 13 2014 21:43 Palmar wrote: No, you. Did you read what Damdred has posted today? Hopeless has pushed him since day 1 in a way that doesn't look bussy and damd has defended his thought processes pretty damn well | ||
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herp fucking derp, now slam is coming along and after I told him that nobody understood what he was posting and he should post more coherently and somehow expected me to understand a string of retarded images he posted night 1 WHICH i called him out for straight away at the start of day 2 | ||
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"omg medic would never save the towniest person n1 so therefore mafia hitting the towniest person and that person not dying must mean that he's poisoner" | ||
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On October 14 2014 00:06 Palmar wrote: Since when are you RBer? did you roleblock someone useful? Grack would've been a good choice. Also grack needs to do shit, he's essentially confirmed. go read the game or fuck off, i literally claimed last night i blocked the framer hopeless n1 so any cop checks would be legitimate and then i blocked kelsier last night in case he was a gf or poisoner | ||
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On October 14 2014 00:08 Palmar wrote: To be honest, if there is a medic, he might as well claim. I think it's worth it at this point. ignore this post ignore everything about this post medic never claim now please we should probably lynch palmar for this post this post is terrible and only mafia/poisoner aligned | ||
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On October 14 2014 00:08 Alakaslam wrote: It is a complex, but understandable issue of math and probability. HolyFlare can take a shot and was over-townie day one. He soaked a shot from scum, and poisoned BH. Night two who knows who he poisoned but scum took a shot and so did Grack. Scum did not shoot BH. The way I deduce this is reaction to my incessant, I would say obvious threats in anime form that I was poisoner (Yandere after Yandere; what else COULD that mean to someone who does in fact read my antics) And I promise you HolyFlare does. As reassurance, HolyFlare, at the moment I have ceased referencing the loo every time I say "Aluminium" Did I spell that wrong? if i thought you were poisoner then why did i ask if you were a martyr day 1 when you were posting your under the radar crap!?!?!?!?!?!??! | ||
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On October 14 2014 00:07 Holyflare wrote: go read the game or fuck off, i literally claimed last night i blocked the framer hopeless n1 so any cop checks would be legitimate and then i blocked kelsier last night in case he was a gf or poisoner | ||
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On October 14 2014 00:15 Alakaslam wrote: That calling me out is largely the reason I think you were actually aware of their meaning. Otherwise, why bother? See, you are sitting on a fence. On one side is town behaviour, on the other, scum behaviour. Town behaviour is to call me out even as I perform these antics; this you did not do. Scum behaviour is to ignore me, or act just like town (scum is WIFOM). This you did not do! Rather, you called me out during the day. In a convenient manner. no i ignored all your images at the night as some retarded wifom and i actually assumed it was a medic claim because you said something about being friends in one of them so i completely ignored you because it's a waste of my time to even question you and then you posted your under the radar posts and pretty much claimed 3p, if i understood you were claiming poisoner (which nobody would ever do anyway) then why on earth would i jump to you being a martyr the real answer is that i wouldn't and even then absolutely none of this makes me the poisoner at all | ||
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On October 14 2014 00:17 Palmar wrote: wait wtf HF, if you roleblocked Kelsier why the hell are you trying to lynch him? it literally confirms him not mafia with the night kills. mafia kp is factional he could be poisoner there was no cop which was my intent to rb him in the first place in case there was | ||
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On October 14 2014 00:18 Palmar wrote: we're in fucking mylo, why the hell wouldn't a medic claim HF? it's not mylo because it's 6v1v1 so even if we mislynch and 2kp goes off then its 3v1v1 | ||
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On October 14 2014 00:21 Palmar wrote: This overreaction probably just means you know no one is actually going to claim a medic and save you HF. We're in mylo. If you weren't saved by a medic, we can not lose simply by lynching you. Like it's insane not to claim right now as medic. you have no idea whatsoever is going on and you are literally saying we have 0 power roles | ||
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On October 14 2014 00:37 Alakaslam wrote: This smacks of desperation. Your story isn't straight, where does the third kill come from? what...? | ||
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On October 14 2014 00:54 Palmar wrote: Because hopeless said so. Hopeless has no reason to lie there, it is almost 100% likely mafia hit holyflare on n1. So my guess is hopeless got mad that hf rekt him and claimed in spite. ............... "no medic but hf's rb claim is a lie! we have no power roles!!!" | ||
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On October 14 2014 01:01 Palmar wrote: I don't get what you don't understand. Do you think it's a bad idea for a medic who may have been on HF on night 1 to claim? absolutely because not only is that fucking retarded when he could save us and win the game instead of being at mylo tomorrow but killing me as a claimed rb'er who has done nothing but kill mafia would be absolutely retarded, instead of all this arguing why don't you tell us who mafia is and it's not damdred who was pushed by mafia all game long | ||
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On October 14 2014 01:05 Palmar wrote: Not why I'm lynching him. That simply explains how it adds up that someone can look town and yet not be town. I want to lynch him because there's no evidence we have a medic, because he completely overreacted to me suggesting a medic should claim and save his ass (like even if it's not the smartest move, we're basically going to treat him as town if he was indeed protected), and because mafia basically claimed to have shot him night 1. Anyone voting him is claiming having a brain. Like there's two people voting him right now and we can't both be scum? So your theory is already awful. if you say it's mylo why do you want the MEDIC to claim instead of just any other blue that would confirm that no medic probably exists, is it because you know there's a medic alive and you want him to be sniped? if i'm shot n1 and poisoner i lose my vest, if mafia know im poisoner like you apparently somehow think they do why didn't they soot me yesterday!!?!? it's because it's a giant pile of wifom crap you are trying to push and useless and i haven't played like a poisoner at all and you haven't even read the game to know that here i am pushing kelsier who actually probably adds up to being mafia or poisoner and you're trying to divert it off of him because "no he looks to town" and onto me because "hf looks too town and mafia said he's poisoner", ...........??? | ||
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On October 14 2014 01:13 KelsierSC wrote: Ok people asked for my reads and in formulating them shouldn't you have already got a general idea the moment hopeless flipped mafia..? | ||
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On October 14 2014 01:18 Palmar wrote: I'm more than ok with any blue claims today. It's mylo, I already explained This is obviously bullshit. Mafia 100% thinks you're the poisoner, or at least that you could be poisoner. If they were sure you're town, they would've used the chance to shoot you last night because if they think you're a townie with medic protection, you couldn't have been saved that night and that window would be great for shooting you. Maybe they like the fact you can kill townies for them, who knows? Accusing me of not reading the game while calling Kelsier scum is like.... so bad. Like he is genuinely trying to understand things here. He's very much town. He believed I had a red check on mafia He ignored the believed red check and called it a frame He ignored the mafia hopeless entirely for all of the day he was pushed He pushed most probable town obiwanshinobi over hopeless even though he said hopeless was scummy He got very irrate the moment he got any form of accusation on him despite pushing towny obiwanshinobi He's probably poisoner if anything | ||
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On October 14 2014 01:21 Alakaslam wrote: Crap. I think HF and palmar are both right mind fry ughhhh how can we both be right when we are pushing different things...? | ||
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Not played all game [✔] Pushes mafia agenda the moment he comes back [✔] Wants to kill top town [✔] Tried to get medic to claim [✔] Tries to kill Holyflare but then says he should get a 100% pass??? [✔] Town Palmar? [X] | ||
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On October 14 2014 01:23 Palmar wrote: 5 reasons he's mafia (and mafia specifically) So clearly he's poisoner? HF, you ok? ![]() the way he got irrate at me and fought me calling him scummy looked very much like he was "able to show how towny" he had been but it was in such a weird way that it looked much more like a poisoner than mafia, pushing townies over mafia is easily poisoner agenda number 1 | ||
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On October 14 2014 01:29 Palmar wrote: So if I think he's town you're clearly poisoner! CHECKMATE. that doesn't make any sense whatsoever? | ||
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On October 14 2014 01:29 Palmar wrote: You have a problem with that? Like if the magical medic appears and claims to have protected you night 1, should I then instead start thinking you're mafia? If it isn't likely you're poisoner, there is literally 0% chance you're scum. the medic is absolutely not claiming and i don't care if it makes me look terrible, he can claim tomorrow if i am still alive | ||
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On October 14 2014 01:32 Palmar wrote: ... If he's town, you're pushing poisoner agenda. after killing 2 mafia in a row, yeh much logic | ||
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On October 14 2014 01:37 Alakaslam wrote: Every time I read this is lol because the likelihood of no medic is so strong im the un cc'd hard claimed town roleblocker, if you believe i'm the poisoner then not only are there ~2 town roles unaccounted for cop/medic/vet/tracker/rber (probably no cop or tracker because they would have listened to me and actually done useful things) but that also means that in your world town only has a vig and a vet and ?????? against a mafia with a framer a rber and a poisoner + w/e mafia role is left that is not likely whatsoever if there was another town rber he could instantly cc me | ||
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On October 14 2014 01:43 Alakaslam wrote: I almost asked palmar if maybe this overturned but I remembered you claimed everything. no it's quite simple, i claimed vig shooting at bh so mafia wouldn't waste a shot on bh because they think i'm getting him so in essence i saved bh, I claimed a cop to try and get as much information as possible out of hopeless and his mafia buddies but i didn't even really claim cop because i kept saying it wasn't a red check and i hard claimed rber with my actions so that a cop could know that nobody was framed n1 and that n2 i rb'd kelsier it's quite straight forward | ||
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On October 14 2014 01:44 Alakaslam wrote: Also poisoner can hit mafia, it isn't anti town balance. town almost always has mafia roles + 1, with another anti town faction/player in the mix they most definitely have 3+ | ||
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On October 14 2014 01:53 Alakaslam wrote: No, your story still just reminds me of how likely right he is. Why did you know so fast that "medic saved you"? I think you knew you had been shot because i was trying to fake a vet claim and i didn't think a medic would save anyone else | ||
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On October 14 2014 01:53 Holyflare wrote: because i was trying to fake a vet claim and i didn't think a medic would save anyone else i've tried to claim as many roles as possible this game if you haven't noticed ![]() | ||
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On October 14 2014 01:54 Alakaslam wrote: Again HF you messed up What kind of town has a scumread on kelsier and yet omguses palmar instead me | ||
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On October 14 2014 01:54 Alakaslam wrote: Again HF you messed up What kind of town has a scumread on kelsier and yet omguses palmar instead Also i think palmar is mafia and kelsier poisoner. It's not a omgus it's a omg you can't suck this bad as town and want a medic to claim when you don't even want to lynch the poisoner who you think is me today even though your vote is on me. His only mafia read is damd and damd was pushed by mafia d1 onwards | ||
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On October 14 2014 02:40 StorrZerg wrote: Logical no claim on anything. Bh was shot n1 .....? | ||
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On October 14 2014 02:48 Damdred wrote: I think storr is claiming medic, he saved BH and bats was poisoned maybe? On October 14 2014 02:52 Damdred wrote: Yep and it casts out my theory that obi=poisoner and poisoned BH n1. think you may actually be mafia for these 2 posts because he could still have poisoned bh and mafia killed batsnacks because he was onto something | ||
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On October 14 2014 02:58 Holyflare wrote: if there's a vet that took a bullet or another medic you should absolutely cc this storr claim btw ignore this now | ||
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On October 14 2014 03:02 Holyflare wrote: fuck this probably actually now makes damd 100% mafia though if bh was shot for telling me that im going to die reasoning being: every towny in the game thinks that i got shot n1 or was poisoner, therefore on n3 it is very likely that i would get saved again and not actually die damd rolls up and tells me that im probably going to die tonight, he also switches off obi as soon as storr says something that looked like a medic claim on bh save saying that obi couldn't have poisoned bh even though he actually very likely could have (bh wouldn't have been a bad poison target) | ||
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On October 14 2014 04:26 StorrZerg wrote: @hf colorful votes plz and ty ???? | ||
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On October 14 2014 04:45 Damdred wrote: You are hf though trying to figure out the game, theres a good chance poisoner might of got you last night so you didn't get past today, or that mafia kills you since you are a rb. Still don't know if theirs a medic so maybe not if everyone has been under the assumption, and quite clearly everyone was (even palmar who hasn't been playing) that i was a poisoner maybe and that i was healed n1 then tomorrow is n3 so the medic could heal me again you are the only person that has said that i am likely to die tonight and the only one that would know i wasn't healed n1 and bh was is mafia | ||
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On October 14 2014 04:49 Damdred wrote: I had a question mark after that storr made it seem like he knew bh was protected so yea came off as bad for me maybe ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh this is a lie A LIE A LIE A LIE omggggg you are really mafia T_T storr said all that crap AFTER you said that i was likely to die tonight!!!! ##unvote ##vote damdred | ||
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On October 14 2014 05:14 StorrZerg wrote: unless damd was shot n1 (idk why) and they know he is either psn or medic save and wanted to see information based on that push. if damd is mafia its less likely kel is psner. not really at all but w/e | ||
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On October 14 2014 05:31 StorrZerg wrote: i still think kel is higher chance of being mafia. damd really looks like psner in my eyes. this doesn't make sense at all seeing as he lied about knowing the MAFIA kills | ||
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On October 14 2014 05:47 StorrZerg wrote: i can agree on the bold stuff. i don't think what he said about you dieing is that bad. it is likely you will die tonight, you have been very active, pushing town in the right direction etc, its not a far thing to suspect. if he DISAGREED that i was the poisoner then he was agreeing that I would be protected by the medic. The thing is that he's saying there IS a medic and that medic protected me on n1, so why on earth would the medic not protect me n3!? | ||
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On October 14 2014 05:56 Holyflare wrote: if he DISAGREED that i was the poisoner then he was agreeing that I would be protected by the medic. The thing is that he's saying there IS a medic and that medic protected me on n1, so why on earth would the medic not protect me n3!? unless he knew bh was shot instead which he was all too quick to agree with | ||
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On October 14 2014 06:04 StorrZerg wrote: @hf what happened to the super strong town read on damd you had when hopeless pushed on him? clearly it's disappeared what kind of question is that | ||
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On October 14 2014 06:16 KelsierSC wrote: The one thing I am trying to wrap my head around is if dam is poisoner, why would anyone shoot him n1? wtf are you talking about!?!??!?! | ||
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On October 14 2014 06:20 KelsierSC wrote: there was only one kill n1, so poisoner was shot right. we dont have medic we do have a medic........................... | ||
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On October 14 2014 06:25 KelsierSC wrote: why is it more likely there is a medic than mafia shot poisoner? "i cant wrap my head around mafia shooting poisoner damdred" "why is it more likely a medic saved bh than shot the poisoner?" ???? | ||
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On October 14 2014 06:30 Damdred wrote: i'm really tempted just to peace out and laugh when i flip vanillia. Your the strongest player left hf and most likely to either of gotten poisoned last night or nk targeted tonight, you pushed the most likely to be mafia so whatever. huh?? | ||
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On October 14 2014 06:38 KelsierSC wrote: So here is my thoughts right now about poisoner. Say mafia shoots poisoner last night. Firstly mafia has to hope he doesn't get vigi shot, and then with only 1 kp he has to get like 3 ML's. Is my math right on that? Either way it is possible that mafia member needs to preserve 2 KP. just focus on who is mafia/poisoner and if you are poisoner just focus on who is mafia because you have already lost because i rb'd you | ||
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On October 14 2014 06:47 Damdred wrote: Its great trying to figure out something when everything that you say is followed with you lie lie lie lie lie lie. Isn't it? are you saying its not a lie!? | ||
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On October 14 2014 07:02 StorrZerg wrote: this is only the case if you didnt get saved last night. Considering all things, its likely you could have been saved last night, and didn't get saved n1. and only damd would know that if he was mafia hence why it looks so bad when he said that and covered it up with a lie.... | ||
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On October 14 2014 07:20 KelsierSC wrote: I just think dam has been much more active and put his thoughts out there much more so than palmer. Palmer has been , overall, pretty lurky and disinterested today his main goal has been to lynch hf, who is the top town. and then as soon as hf starts accusing dam he immediately switches over to him for a really lackluster reason. not happy with palmer at all. on a slam = mafia, palmar = psn right now. He does that as town too | ||
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On October 14 2014 07:23 Damdred wrote: I don't think I lied, or if I did it wasn't intentional or I forgot the sequence of events. Overall, I think you are the one likely to die tonight, or more likely to die tonight especially since you caught mafia and are universally townread mostly. If this is the case then why did you just write a post about how you want to afk and flip vanilla and how awesome it would be??? | ||
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On October 14 2014 09:06 ObiWanShinobi wrote: I don't understand the Damdred case. I'll break it down really simply for you and slam will do some qq about paraphrasing: 1. We all assumed that I was shot n1 so in every townies mind I was healed n1 so logically I should be healed tonight too. 2. Damdred goes and says hf is likely to die tonight, at this stage im like wtf why? 3. Storr busts out with some knowledge saying that actually it was likely bh was shot n1 and then mafia killed him tonight cz of that. 4. Damd agrees and then drops everything he was saying before really quickly 5. I say why did damd say i'd die if he was under the impression i was town/not poisoner/healed n1 6. Damd uses point 3 as reason even though he said it at point 2. | ||
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On October 14 2014 09:08 Holyflare wrote: I'll break it down really simply for you and slam will do some qq about paraphrasing: 1. We all assumed that I was shot n1 so in every townies mind I was healed n1 so logically I should be healed tonight too. 2. Damdred goes and says hf is likely to die tonight, at this stage im like wtf why? 3. Storr busts out with some knowledge saying that actually it was likely bh was shot n1 and then mafia killed him tonight cz of that. 4. Damd agrees and then drops everything he was saying before really quickly 5. I say why did damd say i'd die if he was under the impression i was town/not poisoner/healed n1 6. Damd uses point 3 as reason even though he said it at point 2. at this point damd says rofl i quit you'll love it when i flip vanilla and then leaves and then returns with some excuse about misremembering a bit later and giving a super generic read saying that scum probably is in the people that aren't confirmed town and kelsier/obi | ||
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On October 14 2014 09:11 ObiWanShinobi wrote: I don't get it. hush now, sleeeeep | ||
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On October 14 2014 09:12 ObiWanShinobi wrote: I see the words and everything. I don't see how he's scum though? mafia probably shot bh because he was shot n1 and they know he can't be protected again | ||
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On October 14 2014 09:13 ObiWanShinobi wrote: Also, if the medic just wants to flat out claim at this point that would be great. If we even have one. I'm assuming we don't even have one at this point because medic would've claimed and turned this discussion around several pages ago. you shouldn't claim | ||
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On October 14 2014 09:21 ObiWanShinobi wrote: I don't shoot people who look towny. I shoot threats. Palmar is a threat. BH is a threat. You are a threat. Kelsier didn't/doesn't fall under that category. This is why I think what I think. If we're talking about towny shots, then I really don't know. Normally I don't shoot people who just look towny. you should shoot people that look towny because those are your mislynches that you can't push, pro tip | ||
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On October 14 2014 09:26 KelsierSC wrote: nah i'm town. why didn't you just tell me this before jeez | ||
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On October 14 2014 09:29 KelsierSC wrote: I don't see why dam has been scummier than slam or palmar at this point. you think it's really towny to just qq and leave the thread or do what you did day 2? | ||
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On October 14 2014 09:31 KelsierSC wrote: my d2 was incredibly towny , just my vote was wrong. dam did qq but then came back to the thread and he has been actively figuring out the game. plus all the things i wrote about bs kind of make me think palmar is psnr not dam. dam is not mafia tbh based on votes. where is he solving the game? he's posted 2 lines of poe based on todays play and that's it afaik and there's only 4 votes on him and there's only 1 mafia??? that's a really weird thing to say | ||
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On October 14 2014 09:33 KelsierSC wrote: the votes from d1 and d2 not the votes today. hasn't he been like the last vote on every wagon and didn't even hammer them so in fact it's even more suspicious? | ||
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Obvious One (8): Blazinghand, Alakaslam, Hopeless1der, Holyflare, Oatsmaster, liancourt, KelsierSC, Damdred Obiwanshinobi (3): Grackaroni, Palmer, batsnacks Holyflare (1): ObiWanShinobi liancourt (1): StorrZerg Blazinghand (1): ObviousOne Vote Count D2: ObiWanShinobi (4): Blazinghand, Alakaslam, KelsierSC, hopeless1der hopeless1der (6): ObiWanShinobi, Palmar, Damdred, Holyflare,, Grackaroni, batsnacks liancourt (1): StorrZerg Damdred (1): Liancourt | ||
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On October 14 2014 09:43 Alakaslam wrote: You lazy ass, there was no wagon on kelsier XD The vote thread is not that far away. Stfu about me being scum until you read my filter. I manipulate you people too far in advance. I will post relevant link soon. only scummy people manipulate! | ||
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Obvious One (8): Blazinghand, Alakaslam, Hopeless1der, Holyflare, Oatsmaster, liancourt, KelsierSC, Damdred Obiwanshinobi (3): Grackaroni, Palmer, batsnacks Holyflare (1): ObiWanShinobi liancourt (1): StorrZerg Blazinghand (1): ObviousOne Vote Count D2: ObiWanShinobi (4): Blazinghand, Alakaslam, KelsierSC, hopeless1der hopeless1der (6): ObiWanShinobi, Palmar, Damdred, Holyflare, Grackaroni, batsnacks liancourt (1): StorrZerg Damdred (1): Liancourt fixed some things | ||
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On October 14 2014 10:30 KelsierSC wrote: anyway I badly need sleep I am sure slam is mafia. 1) last mafia didn't vote on hope. has to be slam or me. 2) difference being I gave reasons for my push on obi and led it with a strong town game, slam just sheeped the read because "bh" 3) I've been figuring out this game and giving my reads throughout. slam has just nonsense posted and trolled 4) he has wagoned everything this day and contradicted himself on hf. saying he had "destroyed scum team" but he still wanted to lynch him. anyone wanting to lynch hf today is scum as far as I am concerned ## vote Alakaslam what stops your reasons on obi changing? | ||
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On October 14 2014 10:39 KelsierSC wrote: Hf i don't understand the question just because obi was on mafia hopeless which you said he had no reasons for really being on what stops obi from being mafia? | ||
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On October 14 2014 10:43 KelsierSC wrote: Why would obi push so hard on his mafia partner at that point. because they just lost a mafia partner and another one was under crazy suspicion from me | ||
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On October 14 2014 10:53 KelsierSC wrote: That is not a good reason at all. how can you read slam as town over dam it's a perfectly good reason | ||
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On October 14 2014 11:30 ObiWanShinobi wrote: I still don't know why Damdred is scum though. just sit there being pretty then | ||
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Obvious One (8): Blazinghand, Alakaslam, Hopeless1der, Holyflare, Oatsmaster, liancourt, KelsierSC, Damdred Obiwanshinobi (3): Grackaroni, Palmer, batsnacks Holyflare (1): ObiWanShinobi liancourt (1): StorrZerg Blazinghand (1): ObviousOne Vote Count D2: ObiWanShinobi (4): Blazinghand, Alakaslam, KelsierSC, hopeless1der hopeless1der (6): ObiWanShinobi, Palmar, Damdred, Holyflare, Grackaroni, batsnacks liancourt (1): StorrZerg Damdred (1): Liancourt | ||
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On October 14 2014 12:48 Damdred wrote: Well its good thing its not a fake excuse and i'm not mafia! So its a win win i dont think its a good thing :/ | ||
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On October 14 2014 12:53 Grackaroni wrote: Just ignore the excuse really. I doubt Damdred lied about a funeral regardless of his alignment. well i'll just stick to my initial read then | ||
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On October 14 2014 12:54 Holyflare wrote: well i'll just stick to my initial read then which was damd town and palmar 3p | ||
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On October 14 2014 12:55 Holyflare wrote: storr really could be mafia for telling us he hates palmar and kel and voting with palmar on damdred + never being on any wagon and also talking about bh shot n1 | ||
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On October 14 2014 12:56 ObiWanShinobi wrote: Gee thanks for introducing yet another lynch target 5 minutes before deadline. #lynchmafiaalldayerrday | ||
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On October 14 2014 12:56 ObiWanShinobi wrote: Idk if I want to stay on Palmar. Fucking fuck. you are literally claiming not town then | ||
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On October 14 2014 12:59 Grackaroni wrote: nah I'm sticking this time. I really think that Hopeless' push on Damdred was a bus and if I end up being wrong at least I'll be wrong with my read this time rather than when I shot Lian. k bro | ||
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On October 14 2014 13:00 Damdred wrote: TY for the game guys, and i'm glad i could at least get you to come around hf maybe i'm nto as terrible as i thought. GG ![]() | ||
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On October 14 2014 13:05 StorrZerg wrote: why did you switch back last second hf? why did you come back last second storrzerg? why have you pushed town all game storrzerg? why did you spend all day saying kel and palmar were scummy and then end up on damdred WITH palmar storrzerg? why do you not actually care who gets lynched but only who shot bh which didn't even matter in the end storrzerg? oh yeh because you're poisoner and you don't give a shit about lynching mafia if you can kill a towny | ||
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On October 14 2014 13:06 Grackaroni wrote: AAAAH I've already been mindfucked enough already this game HF! Why not Palmar now? i was thinking about all the crap he wrote today and it's so clueless | ||
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On October 14 2014 13:07 ObiWanShinobi wrote: HF, literally shut up. You just called me not town for not being sure on Palmar who you wanted to lynch, you switch back to damdred for NO REASOn and STILL call me mafia. SO stupid. no you're fucking mafia and i'm going to get you lynched whether you like it or not, I know you bussed hopeless | ||
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On October 14 2014 13:09 ObiWanShinobi wrote: I was asking you almost ALL of the time I got back to explain on damdred and you never did. Don't you dare sit here and get pissy at me for calling me all confused and shit when I was asking you to explain shit. i'm not getting pissy i'm calling you mafia and now i'm convicted and will prove it | ||
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On October 14 2014 13:10 ObiWanShinobi wrote: YOU DIDNT EXPLAIN ANYTHING TO ME. I WAS ASKING YOU ALL DAY TO DO THIS AND YOU NEVER DID AND THEN YOU GOT PISSED AT ME FOR NOT UNDERSTANDING. WHAT IN THE ACTUAL FUCK. i explained about 5 times and then i wanted to switch to palmar and you said you wanted to move off | ||
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On October 14 2014 13:12 StorrZerg wrote: where was this conviction this past day? who gives a shit where it was it just wasn't there and i'm pretty annoyed that none of you appeared until RIGHT AT THE LAST MINUTE because i didn't actually want to end up on damd after what he was saying like literally 4 of you appear with 5 minutes to go which is pathetic | ||
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On October 14 2014 13:15 StorrZerg wrote: why did you switch last min back to damd then instead of palmar? i because he's who i stuck on for a long time and grack said he wanted to lynch him so i went with grack for a change because nobody was around to even discuss other than him | ||
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On October 14 2014 13:20 Grackaroni wrote: You noob! Why would you go with my read that's just asking for disaster. After missing the Oats shot I was annoyed. After I missed on Lian I was really annoyed because I didn't even think it was a good shot. After that Damdred lynch I'm just laughing because really how can someone single-handedly kill 3 townies in a row. I'll definitely be back here tomorrow just as lost as I was today. we'll work through it together, i'll bounce stuff off of you and you can critique it or w/e | ||
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On October 14 2014 13:26 Grackaroni wrote: nope. If there's no medic claim tomorrow HF is poisoner. And like Palmar said if theres 2 kills the only way town can win is if mafia is lynched tomorrow followed by poisoner. stop ruining my role claim dude ![]() | ||
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On October 14 2014 13:31 Grackaroni wrote: Basically theres just a missing shot and I just don't picture mafia shooting Palmar after his day 1 play (or anyone else other than HF besides BH) i agree | ||
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On October 14 2014 13:32 StorrZerg wrote: while your claim is honest, you are also throwing a bunch of shit in the air. and yes, from my point of view i find it highly unlikely you have been shot at all. what shit am i throwing in the air? | ||
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On October 14 2014 13:35 Alakaslam wrote: I somehow Look at this Hopeless RNG ows Silently unvotes BH calls him out. do you think nobody would ever notice that or what???? | ||
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On October 14 2014 13:37 ObiWanShinobi wrote: Why are there 4 scum in this setup? Town only gets to miss once. Ridic. we've missed about 1000x what are you saying? | ||
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On October 15 2014 01:13 StorrZerg wrote: 1. the "mega town read on kel" 2. pushing me as scum for unknown reason 3. bad logic leading to hf being psner 4. still screaming hf is psner 5. pushed obi day 1 6. pushed damd. 7. more shit that i don't understand how you can draw these weird conclusions. only really started playing after 2 mafia died | ||
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On October 15 2014 01:33 StorrZerg wrote: ok hf bury me wait, you should let palmar do that first since he needs to actually explain stuff im agreeing with you | ||
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On October 15 2014 09:16 StorrZerg wrote: hf whats your thought on pr roles claiming right before day post? literally on the o clock and their action would be fine | ||
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On October 15 2014 09:38 ObiWanShinobi wrote: Just got off work. dis guy | ||
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On October 15 2014 12:26 Holyflare wrote: you absolutely lynch palmar tomorrow, he is the poisoner or mafia | ||
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On October 08 2014 06:05 Palmar wrote: Also batsnacks is probably town for being the one to point out the scumslip. Mafia doesn't have the balls to do something this stupid. This means we can all safely just ignore batsnacks for the rest of the game, as it's unlikely anything he says is actually of any value. prob poisoner for this post | ||
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On October 15 2014 12:45 ObiWanShinobi wrote: Hf have I ever mentioned that I hate you. suck it poisoner | ||
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On October 15 2014 12:48 ObiWanShinobi wrote: Cripes that game is old. Claim an rb for reals in case you get shot though. read post 173 onwards | ||
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On October 15 2014 12:49 Alakaslam wrote: I return what have I missed you're poisoner | ||
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storr is probably town just for being around and talking even if it was useless but be wary of him i rb'd kelsier n2 so if he's poisoner then it should be obvious if there's only 1 nk tonight (medic discuss stuff if you exist) but he's not mafia either don't lynch obi i think obv don't kill grack my real actions: n1: hopeless n2: kelsiersc n3: slam | ||
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On October 15 2014 13:00 StorrZerg wrote: Medic on obi i hate you wtf | ||
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On October 15 2014 13:13 Grackaroni wrote: I'm not completely convinced yet that Obi checked HF and not Hopeless day1. He might have changed reads on HF because he got a redcheck on Hopeless and saw HF pushing Hope. he's been saying "the only person i wont lynch is hf", "hf is definitely town now" | ||
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On October 15 2014 13:29 Alakaslam wrote: Ok. Are you guys willing to consider the entire game or do you want to work with fresh steam? Because if you are willing to consider the whole game, read my earliest stuff with Grack. It generally confirmed me to a lot of people, I forget how because I don't remember it. Otherwise, like I asked later when everyone got pissed: Attack me and I will do my best to defend. but if you're town then kelsier is mafia | ||
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On October 15 2014 13:31 Alakaslam wrote: Wait Oh this is dumb. HF RB doesn't help KP is faction. FAUGH. mafia kp is factional and i've told you this about a dozen times when you said the same thing yesterday and claimed i was poisoner | ||
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On October 15 2014 13:37 Alakaslam wrote: You know, one game on OMGUS has me raging I the graveyard that the scum were all so suspicious all along and town was derping themselves into almost lynching them instead of growing a pair and lynching them. I think that is the case here, you might not remember but I have been Townread or null most of ye game, while Kelsier has been scumread or null- or townreAd by our influential poisoner, palmar. Which is in his best interest. are you implying he knew who mafia was somehow??? | ||
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On October 15 2014 13:45 Grackaroni wrote: But KSC said that hopeless was framed and voted obi. We should probably just follow the obi/hopeless wagon really. KSC was pushing a really strong mafia agenda that day and that would have been an extremely important lynch from my perspective if I was mafia. I would have done everything I could to keep my 2nd scum buddy alive if I was scum and then I would've gotten lynched right after Hopeless lol :D this is true.... but the newness of him and having 16 pages in first mafia game?? it makes me wonder ya know | ||
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Obvious One (8): Blazinghand, Alakaslam, Hopeless1der, Holyflare, Oatsmaster, liancourt, KelsierSC, Damdred Obiwanshinobi (3): Grackaroni, Palmer, batsnacks Holyflare (1): ObiWanShinobi liancourt (1): StorrZerg Blazinghand (1): ObviousOne Vote Count D2: ObiWanShinobi (4): Blazinghand, Alakaslam, KelsierSC, hopeless1der hopeless1der (6): ObiWanShinobi, Palmar, Damdred, Holyflare, Grackaroni, batsnacks liancourt (1): StorrZerg Damdred (1): Liancourt they both voted on the same wagons but when i thought damd's vote was scummy on OO (because it was late) this also very much applies to kelsier, gonna have a look how the hopeless wagon went down probably tomorrow and see what's what | ||
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On October 15 2014 13:49 Grackaroni wrote: lol I wrote a while bunch of stuff about how I'm tempted to just go with the votes from day 2 and then I realized slam also voted for Obi dat ninja | ||
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On October 15 2014 14:06 Grackaroni wrote: Not going to lie - just looking at the day2 votes I instinctively want to color it like this, BH shouts Obi is scum for his obvious backtrack on Palmar. Slam blindly follows BH because ![]() ![]() ya | ||
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On October 16 2014 15:03 Alakaslam wrote: Wow. You have no idea of the concept of lampshading? I am excusing my inability to point out their scumminess by pointing out how ridiculous it was that after what had just transpired, they went inactive instead of seizing the opportunity and yet (apparently) expected their statements and actions to hold water. So... By pointing it out I made myself wrong because you are a literalist? I cannot make a satirical point? Listen to political radio. They always say "where is the rage?" When a political party remains silent on some issue because it doesn't suit their agenda. I am making the same kind of point. I don't care what you're doing because it isn't doing anything useful, kelsier hasn't posted in his other game he's playing in at all so that point is redundant. I'm not particularly bothered what happens on political radio either because politicians are a bunch of useless twat faces that care more about their image than the country they are supposed to be looking after and have no idea what's going on in the real world whatsoever. I care about what's happening in this game and I want you to prove why you are town when all you've done is purposefully push how you are a poisoner all game and then when push comes to shove you push rhetorical arguments about what they are doing now rather than all game. | ||
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On October 17 2014 02:29 Alakaslam wrote: I dunno Grack do you understand where I was coming from or is this game actually one I can point to as to why I troll? Like this is newbie reminescent really. I would make points like this and people repeatedly made it clear that not only did they completely not understand the post, but they didn't understand the explanation. So why be honest? I'd rather hide frankly, ![]() Stay CHUPAZI my friends; hiiiiijole VATO Wei all i am reading is that you don't know what makes them scummy so you're pointing out what they are doing today isn't towny but one of the people is actually just afk so can't post and the other is a confirmed poisoner so really not much help at all so then why are you all woe is me? explain to me why you voted the way you did on every single lynch | ||
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On October 17 2014 13:27 Grackaroni wrote: We did it HF! we're so good at this game <3 schweet | ||
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On October 17 2014 13:44 ObiWanShinobi wrote: Yeah, I had a feeling that my HF check was going to be awful. I got really lucky that I turned it into something useful because of the missing KP, which meant that Palmar had to be poisoner anyway. I figured KSC was really obvious at endgame because of Grack's case, and idk where the liancourt shot came from especially when he had such a strong case to begin with. Yuck. Oh well, ggwp town. We derd it. i cannot honestly believe you did not check kelsier when i asked you to -.- | ||
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On October 17 2014 13:38 Damdred wrote: and by palmar in that first thing i meant how HF switched back to me and sealed my fate ![]() i know bro i really didn't want to, it was like that day all my previous gameplay had disappeared and i forgot all my reads =/ | ||
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