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On October 09 2014 02:24 KelsierSC wrote:Show nested quote +On October 09 2014 02:01 ObiWanShinobi wrote:On October 09 2014 01:51 KelsierSC wrote:On October 09 2014 01:05 ObiWanShinobi wrote:On October 09 2014 00:45 KelsierSC wrote:On October 09 2014 00:41 ObiWanShinobi wrote:On October 09 2014 00:39 KelsierSC wrote:On October 09 2014 00:37 Holyflare wrote:
No I'm pretty sure oo would tell people to bus him On October 09 2014 00:36 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
Working on it.
Even if you were my prime scumread, I'm not willing to put anyone on the OO wagon up for lynch tomorrow. I think the lynch group for day 2 should be apparent. yeh HF is town Obi probably scum Explain your reasoning pls. I gave reasons why you were scummy when I rejoined the thread, basically around the voting/post vote you looked really scummy. And now you think that people who voted for OO are all clean and the vote is between BH,palmar , Grak and Storr? The mafia would know OO is scummy so why would they switch off him, easier to stick there to gain credibility. The fact you don't realise this really makes you scummy to me. And the scummier you get the townier HF gets. Although this isn't the only reason I think he is town now. No, I thought the vote should have been between everyone off of the OO wagon. HF himself came in and stated that OO would basically tell people to bus him (which really is the most ridiculous thing in the world) which means that the most likely place to find mafia would still be on his bandwagon...Somehow. And I never said the OO wagon was clean in the first place. I said that the best lynches would most likely be the ones off the bandwagon, and before then I even gave reasoning as to why I think HF could have motivation to kill OO as either alignment. Alternatively, if mafia wouldn't switch off of OO, and I didn't vote OO, how does that make sense within the context of mafia voting OO to look town? Wouldn't that, by the virtue of your own heuristic, have made sense for me to just vote OO and look better instead of trying to go after someone that is supposedly "supertown" to you? Right now, your entire perception of the game hinges on me being scum and throwing away my vote while mafia would just vote OO. That...Doesn't make sense. My current issues with your analysis: 1) It's superficial. Saying that the entire wagon on my is town because "you didn't think it could gain traction" is kind of dumb, especially when Palmar gave the exact same reasoning I did for staying off the OO wagon. Alternatively, why is it that my omgus is bad for town? You can't just say something is "bad" without backing it up. Why do you think this? Is it because you're just classifying what my thought process was at the time or do you think I had legitimate reasons to think these things? 2) It's contradictory. If mafia couldn't get an alternative bandwagon going, what makes you think I was trying so hard to do so? What makes you think that my suggestion to CFD Palmar was a 100% serious suggestion rather than a joke? If I couldn't gain traction for it, which is what you supposedly think, then why is it that it has to be a serious attempt rather than what you think is an awkward backtrack? The issue I have is that you're only looking at my actions one way. It looks really convenient that you think my entire wagon is town since mafia couldn't to get an alternative bandwagon going, but I'm scum because I tried to get an alternative bandwagon going. If anything you would think that my wagon was the alternative, so I don't understand where this thought process is coming from. Explain more pls. Right but the names I listed are the people off of the OO wagon, so that is exactly who you want to lynch not sure why you are denying this fact. Again I agree with the logic HF gave and the logic I put forward, I think scum lie in the OO vote and the fact you think mafia wouldn't vote on OO is just silly/scummy. I think you tried to see how much support there was for a palmar lynch, your attempt at a bandwagon, and when you realised no one wanted it you backtracked. honestly if you last minute switch to OO it really wouldn't put you as town because a) it is right at the end and OO was going to be the lynch anyway b) the only alternative was yourself so my reasoning is not superficial at all. and it is not contradictory. I also think it is a mafia play to just vote for someone who voted you and then just not shift at any point. it is like "I AM SO OUTRAGED". If your town then you are not being objective and are bad town, or you are scum. That is why excessive OMGUS is bad. All of this analysis is opinion. You're not taking any of the progression of my reads into account, nor are you accepting that there can be any town motivation for my actions. If there is a reasonable explanation for my actions, which I felt to have explained adequately, accept the fact that you might be wrong instead of posting analysis based on "what you think" my actions resulted from. what read progression? you thought hf was mafia and still think he is mafia right. I don't really like you thinking hope is top town. If you have other reads can you quote them for me. I don't see a town motivation and I really don't think your explanation is good enough for me. give me a reason why storr,grack,bs or palmar is a better lynch than you.
Because I am town and they are not me.
Qed.
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United Kingdom30774 Posts
and if that was a lie just think how stupid palmars was!
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On October 09 2014 02:26 ObiWanShinobi wrote:Show nested quote +On October 09 2014 02:24 KelsierSC wrote:On October 09 2014 02:01 ObiWanShinobi wrote:On October 09 2014 01:51 KelsierSC wrote:On October 09 2014 01:05 ObiWanShinobi wrote:On October 09 2014 00:45 KelsierSC wrote:On October 09 2014 00:41 ObiWanShinobi wrote:On October 09 2014 00:39 KelsierSC wrote:On October 09 2014 00:37 Holyflare wrote:
No I'm pretty sure oo would tell people to bus him On October 09 2014 00:36 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
Working on it.
Even if you were my prime scumread, I'm not willing to put anyone on the OO wagon up for lynch tomorrow. I think the lynch group for day 2 should be apparent. yeh HF is town Obi probably scum Explain your reasoning pls. I gave reasons why you were scummy when I rejoined the thread, basically around the voting/post vote you looked really scummy. And now you think that people who voted for OO are all clean and the vote is between BH,palmar , Grak and Storr? The mafia would know OO is scummy so why would they switch off him, easier to stick there to gain credibility. The fact you don't realise this really makes you scummy to me. And the scummier you get the townier HF gets. Although this isn't the only reason I think he is town now. No, I thought the vote should have been between everyone off of the OO wagon. HF himself came in and stated that OO would basically tell people to bus him (which really is the most ridiculous thing in the world) which means that the most likely place to find mafia would still be on his bandwagon...Somehow. And I never said the OO wagon was clean in the first place. I said that the best lynches would most likely be the ones off the bandwagon, and before then I even gave reasoning as to why I think HF could have motivation to kill OO as either alignment. Alternatively, if mafia wouldn't switch off of OO, and I didn't vote OO, how does that make sense within the context of mafia voting OO to look town? Wouldn't that, by the virtue of your own heuristic, have made sense for me to just vote OO and look better instead of trying to go after someone that is supposedly "supertown" to you? Right now, your entire perception of the game hinges on me being scum and throwing away my vote while mafia would just vote OO. That...Doesn't make sense. My current issues with your analysis: 1) It's superficial. Saying that the entire wagon on my is town because "you didn't think it could gain traction" is kind of dumb, especially when Palmar gave the exact same reasoning I did for staying off the OO wagon. Alternatively, why is it that my omgus is bad for town? You can't just say something is "bad" without backing it up. Why do you think this? Is it because you're just classifying what my thought process was at the time or do you think I had legitimate reasons to think these things? 2) It's contradictory. If mafia couldn't get an alternative bandwagon going, what makes you think I was trying so hard to do so? What makes you think that my suggestion to CFD Palmar was a 100% serious suggestion rather than a joke? If I couldn't gain traction for it, which is what you supposedly think, then why is it that it has to be a serious attempt rather than what you think is an awkward backtrack? The issue I have is that you're only looking at my actions one way. It looks really convenient that you think my entire wagon is town since mafia couldn't to get an alternative bandwagon going, but I'm scum because I tried to get an alternative bandwagon going. If anything you would think that my wagon was the alternative, so I don't understand where this thought process is coming from. Explain more pls. Right but the names I listed are the people off of the OO wagon, so that is exactly who you want to lynch not sure why you are denying this fact. Again I agree with the logic HF gave and the logic I put forward, I think scum lie in the OO vote and the fact you think mafia wouldn't vote on OO is just silly/scummy. I think you tried to see how much support there was for a palmar lynch, your attempt at a bandwagon, and when you realised no one wanted it you backtracked. honestly if you last minute switch to OO it really wouldn't put you as town because a) it is right at the end and OO was going to be the lynch anyway b) the only alternative was yourself so my reasoning is not superficial at all. and it is not contradictory. I also think it is a mafia play to just vote for someone who voted you and then just not shift at any point. it is like "I AM SO OUTRAGED". If your town then you are not being objective and are bad town, or you are scum. That is why excessive OMGUS is bad. All of this analysis is opinion. You're not taking any of the progression of my reads into account, nor are you accepting that there can be any town motivation for my actions. If there is a reasonable explanation for my actions, which I felt to have explained adequately, accept the fact that you might be wrong instead of posting analysis based on "what you think" my actions resulted from. what read progression? you thought hf was mafia and still think he is mafia right. I don't really like you thinking hope is top town. If you have other reads can you quote them for me. I don't see a town motivation and I really don't think your explanation is good enough for me. give me a reason why storr,grack,bs or palmar is a better lynch than you. Because I am town and they are not me. Qed.
ugh
I meant give me something that makes them scum.
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Obi just bust out some reads on people right now, bleed town if you are town.
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On October 09 2014 02:27 Damdred wrote:
Obi just bust out some reads on people right now, bleed town if you are town.
Alternatively people can start playing the game and stop focusing on me exclusively. This will, in turn, make it easier to garner reads.
Focusing on me by myself is just going to lead to a circle of people pouring over what I'm saying and poking holes in it regardless of what I actually say.
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On October 09 2014 02:27 KelsierSC wrote:Show nested quote +On October 09 2014 02:26 ObiWanShinobi wrote:On October 09 2014 02:24 KelsierSC wrote:On October 09 2014 02:01 ObiWanShinobi wrote:On October 09 2014 01:51 KelsierSC wrote:On October 09 2014 01:05 ObiWanShinobi wrote:On October 09 2014 00:45 KelsierSC wrote:On October 09 2014 00:41 ObiWanShinobi wrote:On October 09 2014 00:39 KelsierSC wrote:On October 09 2014 00:37 Holyflare wrote:
No I'm pretty sure oo would tell people to bus him On October 09 2014 00:36 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
Working on it.
Even if you were my prime scumread, I'm not willing to put anyone on the OO wagon up for lynch tomorrow. I think the lynch group for day 2 should be apparent. yeh HF is town Obi probably scum Explain your reasoning pls. I gave reasons why you were scummy when I rejoined the thread, basically around the voting/post vote you looked really scummy. And now you think that people who voted for OO are all clean and the vote is between BH,palmar , Grak and Storr? The mafia would know OO is scummy so why would they switch off him, easier to stick there to gain credibility. The fact you don't realise this really makes you scummy to me. And the scummier you get the townier HF gets. Although this isn't the only reason I think he is town now. No, I thought the vote should have been between everyone off of the OO wagon. HF himself came in and stated that OO would basically tell people to bus him (which really is the most ridiculous thing in the world) which means that the most likely place to find mafia would still be on his bandwagon...Somehow. And I never said the OO wagon was clean in the first place. I said that the best lynches would most likely be the ones off the bandwagon, and before then I even gave reasoning as to why I think HF could have motivation to kill OO as either alignment. Alternatively, if mafia wouldn't switch off of OO, and I didn't vote OO, how does that make sense within the context of mafia voting OO to look town? Wouldn't that, by the virtue of your own heuristic, have made sense for me to just vote OO and look better instead of trying to go after someone that is supposedly "supertown" to you? Right now, your entire perception of the game hinges on me being scum and throwing away my vote while mafia would just vote OO. That...Doesn't make sense. My current issues with your analysis: 1) It's superficial. Saying that the entire wagon on my is town because "you didn't think it could gain traction" is kind of dumb, especially when Palmar gave the exact same reasoning I did for staying off the OO wagon. Alternatively, why is it that my omgus is bad for town? You can't just say something is "bad" without backing it up. Why do you think this? Is it because you're just classifying what my thought process was at the time or do you think I had legitimate reasons to think these things? 2) It's contradictory. If mafia couldn't get an alternative bandwagon going, what makes you think I was trying so hard to do so? What makes you think that my suggestion to CFD Palmar was a 100% serious suggestion rather than a joke? If I couldn't gain traction for it, which is what you supposedly think, then why is it that it has to be a serious attempt rather than what you think is an awkward backtrack? The issue I have is that you're only looking at my actions one way. It looks really convenient that you think my entire wagon is town since mafia couldn't to get an alternative bandwagon going, but I'm scum because I tried to get an alternative bandwagon going. If anything you would think that my wagon was the alternative, so I don't understand where this thought process is coming from. Explain more pls. Right but the names I listed are the people off of the OO wagon, so that is exactly who you want to lynch not sure why you are denying this fact. Again I agree with the logic HF gave and the logic I put forward, I think scum lie in the OO vote and the fact you think mafia wouldn't vote on OO is just silly/scummy. I think you tried to see how much support there was for a palmar lynch, your attempt at a bandwagon, and when you realised no one wanted it you backtracked. honestly if you last minute switch to OO it really wouldn't put you as town because a) it is right at the end and OO was going to be the lynch anyway b) the only alternative was yourself so my reasoning is not superficial at all. and it is not contradictory. I also think it is a mafia play to just vote for someone who voted you and then just not shift at any point. it is like "I AM SO OUTRAGED". If your town then you are not being objective and are bad town, or you are scum. That is why excessive OMGUS is bad. All of this analysis is opinion. You're not taking any of the progression of my reads into account, nor are you accepting that there can be any town motivation for my actions. If there is a reasonable explanation for my actions, which I felt to have explained adequately, accept the fact that you might be wrong instead of posting analysis based on "what you think" my actions resulted from. what read progression? you thought hf was mafia and still think he is mafia right. I don't really like you thinking hope is top town. If you have other reads can you quote them for me. I don't see a town motivation and I really don't think your explanation is good enough for me. give me a reason why storr,grack,bs or palmar is a better lynch than you. Because I am town and they are not me. Qed. ugh I meant give me something that makes them scum.
I would if I could. A majority of them are coasting/lurking right now and it makes it hard to read them explicitly.
Same advice to Damdred goes to you, naturally.
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On October 09 2014 02:25 ObiWanShinobi wrote:Show nested quote +On October 09 2014 02:20 Blazinghand wrote:On October 09 2014 02:14 ObiWanShinobi wrote:On October 09 2014 02:10 Blazinghand wrote:
hf being mafia would have to be independent of him calling me scum. In fact, calling me scum is one of the towniest things you can do since it's so insane for scum to do. I mean, it's not any more now that I've said it, I'm just saying I don't see what scum motivation there would be for picking a fight with me Well I just called you scum, which makes me town. Ergo your analysis explodes into nothingness and I can go back to doing nothing. See you. This only applies if I'm not already attacking you, buddy. In any case, there's no way you can possibly avoid getting lynched tomorrow (outside of getting shot first) because my scumhunting skills are too good. EZ game EZ lyfe Then I can just poke holes in your case and call it stupid as well, especially since I've addressed your case about a thousand times over before you even posted it. So if you want to continue to be nitpicky n' shit, go ahead.
yeah, "nitpicky" about the fact you tried to derail the lynch at the last moment
you're a funny guy OWS
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On October 09 2014 02:31 ObiWanShinobi wrote:Show nested quote +On October 09 2014 02:27 KelsierSC wrote:On October 09 2014 02:26 ObiWanShinobi wrote:On October 09 2014 02:24 KelsierSC wrote:On October 09 2014 02:01 ObiWanShinobi wrote:On October 09 2014 01:51 KelsierSC wrote:On October 09 2014 01:05 ObiWanShinobi wrote:On October 09 2014 00:45 KelsierSC wrote:On October 09 2014 00:41 ObiWanShinobi wrote:On October 09 2014 00:39 KelsierSC wrote:
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yeh HF is town
Obi probably scum Explain your reasoning pls. I gave reasons why you were scummy when I rejoined the thread, basically around the voting/post vote you looked really scummy. And now you think that people who voted for OO are all clean and the vote is between BH,palmar , Grak and Storr? The mafia would know OO is scummy so why would they switch off him, easier to stick there to gain credibility. The fact you don't realise this really makes you scummy to me. And the scummier you get the townier HF gets. Although this isn't the only reason I think he is town now. No, I thought the vote should have been between everyone off of the OO wagon. HF himself came in and stated that OO would basically tell people to bus him (which really is the most ridiculous thing in the world) which means that the most likely place to find mafia would still be on his bandwagon...Somehow. And I never said the OO wagon was clean in the first place. I said that the best lynches would most likely be the ones off the bandwagon, and before then I even gave reasoning as to why I think HF could have motivation to kill OO as either alignment. Alternatively, if mafia wouldn't switch off of OO, and I didn't vote OO, how does that make sense within the context of mafia voting OO to look town? Wouldn't that, by the virtue of your own heuristic, have made sense for me to just vote OO and look better instead of trying to go after someone that is supposedly "supertown" to you? Right now, your entire perception of the game hinges on me being scum and throwing away my vote while mafia would just vote OO. That...Doesn't make sense. My current issues with your analysis: 1) It's superficial. Saying that the entire wagon on my is town because "you didn't think it could gain traction" is kind of dumb, especially when Palmar gave the exact same reasoning I did for staying off the OO wagon. Alternatively, why is it that my omgus is bad for town? You can't just say something is "bad" without backing it up. Why do you think this? Is it because you're just classifying what my thought process was at the time or do you think I had legitimate reasons to think these things? 2) It's contradictory. If mafia couldn't get an alternative bandwagon going, what makes you think I was trying so hard to do so? What makes you think that my suggestion to CFD Palmar was a 100% serious suggestion rather than a joke? If I couldn't gain traction for it, which is what you supposedly think, then why is it that it has to be a serious attempt rather than what you think is an awkward backtrack? The issue I have is that you're only looking at my actions one way. It looks really convenient that you think my entire wagon is town since mafia couldn't to get an alternative bandwagon going, but I'm scum because I tried to get an alternative bandwagon going. If anything you would think that my wagon was the alternative, so I don't understand where this thought process is coming from. Explain more pls. Right but the names I listed are the people off of the OO wagon, so that is exactly who you want to lynch not sure why you are denying this fact. Again I agree with the logic HF gave and the logic I put forward, I think scum lie in the OO vote and the fact you think mafia wouldn't vote on OO is just silly/scummy. I think you tried to see how much support there was for a palmar lynch, your attempt at a bandwagon, and when you realised no one wanted it you backtracked. honestly if you last minute switch to OO it really wouldn't put you as town because a) it is right at the end and OO was going to be the lynch anyway b) the only alternative was yourself so my reasoning is not superficial at all. and it is not contradictory. I also think it is a mafia play to just vote for someone who voted you and then just not shift at any point. it is like "I AM SO OUTRAGED". If your town then you are not being objective and are bad town, or you are scum. That is why excessive OMGUS is bad. All of this analysis is opinion. You're not taking any of the progression of my reads into account, nor are you accepting that there can be any town motivation for my actions. If there is a reasonable explanation for my actions, which I felt to have explained adequately, accept the fact that you might be wrong instead of posting analysis based on "what you think" my actions resulted from. what read progression? you thought hf was mafia and still think he is mafia right. I don't really like you thinking hope is top town. If you have other reads can you quote them for me. I don't see a town motivation and I really don't think your explanation is good enough for me. give me a reason why storr,grack,bs or palmar is a better lynch than you. Because I am town and they are not me. Qed. ugh I meant give me something that makes them scum. I would if I could. A majority of them are coasting/lurking right now and it makes it hard to read them explicitly. Same advice to Damdred goes to you, naturally.
So you want to lynch them but you can't find anything that makes them scummy.
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On October 09 2014 02:31 Blazinghand wrote:Show nested quote +On October 09 2014 02:25 ObiWanShinobi wrote:On October 09 2014 02:20 Blazinghand wrote:On October 09 2014 02:14 ObiWanShinobi wrote:On October 09 2014 02:10 Blazinghand wrote:
hf being mafia would have to be independent of him calling me scum. In fact, calling me scum is one of the towniest things you can do since it's so insane for scum to do. I mean, it's not any more now that I've said it, I'm just saying I don't see what scum motivation there would be for picking a fight with me Well I just called you scum, which makes me town. Ergo your analysis explodes into nothingness and I can go back to doing nothing. See you. This only applies if I'm not already attacking you, buddy. In any case, there's no way you can possibly avoid getting lynched tomorrow (outside of getting shot first) because my scumhunting skills are too good. EZ game EZ lyfe Then I can just poke holes in your case and call it stupid as well, especially since I've addressed your case about a thousand times over before you even posted it. So if you want to continue to be nitpicky n' shit, go ahead. yeah, "nitpicky" about the fact you tried to derail the lynch at the last moment you're a funny guy OWS
Except I didn't actually do this and I explained myself about a gajillion times.
You are nitpicking.
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On October 09 2014 02:31 ObiWanShinobi wrote:Show nested quote +On October 09 2014 02:27 KelsierSC wrote:On October 09 2014 02:26 ObiWanShinobi wrote:On October 09 2014 02:24 KelsierSC wrote:On October 09 2014 02:01 ObiWanShinobi wrote:On October 09 2014 01:51 KelsierSC wrote:On October 09 2014 01:05 ObiWanShinobi wrote:On October 09 2014 00:45 KelsierSC wrote:On October 09 2014 00:41 ObiWanShinobi wrote:On October 09 2014 00:39 KelsierSC wrote:
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yeh HF is town
Obi probably scum Explain your reasoning pls. I gave reasons why you were scummy when I rejoined the thread, basically around the voting/post vote you looked really scummy. And now you think that people who voted for OO are all clean and the vote is between BH,palmar , Grak and Storr? The mafia would know OO is scummy so why would they switch off him, easier to stick there to gain credibility. The fact you don't realise this really makes you scummy to me. And the scummier you get the townier HF gets. Although this isn't the only reason I think he is town now. No, I thought the vote should have been between everyone off of the OO wagon. HF himself came in and stated that OO would basically tell people to bus him (which really is the most ridiculous thing in the world) which means that the most likely place to find mafia would still be on his bandwagon...Somehow. And I never said the OO wagon was clean in the first place. I said that the best lynches would most likely be the ones off the bandwagon, and before then I even gave reasoning as to why I think HF could have motivation to kill OO as either alignment. Alternatively, if mafia wouldn't switch off of OO, and I didn't vote OO, how does that make sense within the context of mafia voting OO to look town? Wouldn't that, by the virtue of your own heuristic, have made sense for me to just vote OO and look better instead of trying to go after someone that is supposedly "supertown" to you? Right now, your entire perception of the game hinges on me being scum and throwing away my vote while mafia would just vote OO. That...Doesn't make sense. My current issues with your analysis: 1) It's superficial. Saying that the entire wagon on my is town because "you didn't think it could gain traction" is kind of dumb, especially when Palmar gave the exact same reasoning I did for staying off the OO wagon. Alternatively, why is it that my omgus is bad for town? You can't just say something is "bad" without backing it up. Why do you think this? Is it because you're just classifying what my thought process was at the time or do you think I had legitimate reasons to think these things? 2) It's contradictory. If mafia couldn't get an alternative bandwagon going, what makes you think I was trying so hard to do so? What makes you think that my suggestion to CFD Palmar was a 100% serious suggestion rather than a joke? If I couldn't gain traction for it, which is what you supposedly think, then why is it that it has to be a serious attempt rather than what you think is an awkward backtrack? The issue I have is that you're only looking at my actions one way. It looks really convenient that you think my entire wagon is town since mafia couldn't to get an alternative bandwagon going, but I'm scum because I tried to get an alternative bandwagon going. If anything you would think that my wagon was the alternative, so I don't understand where this thought process is coming from. Explain more pls. Right but the names I listed are the people off of the OO wagon, so that is exactly who you want to lynch not sure why you are denying this fact. Again I agree with the logic HF gave and the logic I put forward, I think scum lie in the OO vote and the fact you think mafia wouldn't vote on OO is just silly/scummy. I think you tried to see how much support there was for a palmar lynch, your attempt at a bandwagon, and when you realised no one wanted it you backtracked. honestly if you last minute switch to OO it really wouldn't put you as town because a) it is right at the end and OO was going to be the lynch anyway b) the only alternative was yourself so my reasoning is not superficial at all. and it is not contradictory. I also think it is a mafia play to just vote for someone who voted you and then just not shift at any point. it is like "I AM SO OUTRAGED". If your town then you are not being objective and are bad town, or you are scum. That is why excessive OMGUS is bad. All of this analysis is opinion. You're not taking any of the progression of my reads into account, nor are you accepting that there can be any town motivation for my actions. If there is a reasonable explanation for my actions, which I felt to have explained adequately, accept the fact that you might be wrong instead of posting analysis based on "what you think" my actions resulted from. what read progression? you thought hf was mafia and still think he is mafia right. I don't really like you thinking hope is top town. If you have other reads can you quote them for me. I don't see a town motivation and I really don't think your explanation is good enough for me. give me a reason why storr,grack,bs or palmar is a better lynch than you. Because I am town and they are not me. Qed. ugh I meant give me something that makes them scum. I would if I could. A majority of them are coasting/lurking right now and it makes it hard to read them explicitly. Same advice to Damdred goes to you, naturally.
Obviously i'm going to update my reads as we get closer to day break and even though i've asked lots of questions i've given a couple town reads even if some of them are lacking. OO was policy but had scummy things going on just what it was. Anyway, you did try to derail the lynch and backpedaled out of it so you deserve a little of the pressure just be town obi and you won't get lynched today, never known you to get this upset about pressure before though.
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On October 09 2014 02:35 Damdred wrote:Show nested quote +On October 09 2014 02:31 ObiWanShinobi wrote:On October 09 2014 02:27 KelsierSC wrote:On October 09 2014 02:26 ObiWanShinobi wrote:On October 09 2014 02:24 KelsierSC wrote:On October 09 2014 02:01 ObiWanShinobi wrote:On October 09 2014 01:51 KelsierSC wrote:On October 09 2014 01:05 ObiWanShinobi wrote:On October 09 2014 00:45 KelsierSC wrote:On October 09 2014 00:41 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
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Explain your reasoning pls. I gave reasons why you were scummy when I rejoined the thread, basically around the voting/post vote you looked really scummy. And now you think that people who voted for OO are all clean and the vote is between BH,palmar , Grak and Storr? The mafia would know OO is scummy so why would they switch off him, easier to stick there to gain credibility. The fact you don't realise this really makes you scummy to me. And the scummier you get the townier HF gets. Although this isn't the only reason I think he is town now. No, I thought the vote should have been between everyone off of the OO wagon. HF himself came in and stated that OO would basically tell people to bus him (which really is the most ridiculous thing in the world) which means that the most likely place to find mafia would still be on his bandwagon...Somehow. And I never said the OO wagon was clean in the first place. I said that the best lynches would most likely be the ones off the bandwagon, and before then I even gave reasoning as to why I think HF could have motivation to kill OO as either alignment. Alternatively, if mafia wouldn't switch off of OO, and I didn't vote OO, how does that make sense within the context of mafia voting OO to look town? Wouldn't that, by the virtue of your own heuristic, have made sense for me to just vote OO and look better instead of trying to go after someone that is supposedly "supertown" to you? Right now, your entire perception of the game hinges on me being scum and throwing away my vote while mafia would just vote OO. That...Doesn't make sense. My current issues with your analysis: 1) It's superficial. Saying that the entire wagon on my is town because "you didn't think it could gain traction" is kind of dumb, especially when Palmar gave the exact same reasoning I did for staying off the OO wagon. Alternatively, why is it that my omgus is bad for town? You can't just say something is "bad" without backing it up. Why do you think this? Is it because you're just classifying what my thought process was at the time or do you think I had legitimate reasons to think these things? 2) It's contradictory. If mafia couldn't get an alternative bandwagon going, what makes you think I was trying so hard to do so? What makes you think that my suggestion to CFD Palmar was a 100% serious suggestion rather than a joke? If I couldn't gain traction for it, which is what you supposedly think, then why is it that it has to be a serious attempt rather than what you think is an awkward backtrack? The issue I have is that you're only looking at my actions one way. It looks really convenient that you think my entire wagon is town since mafia couldn't to get an alternative bandwagon going, but I'm scum because I tried to get an alternative bandwagon going. If anything you would think that my wagon was the alternative, so I don't understand where this thought process is coming from. Explain more pls. Right but the names I listed are the people off of the OO wagon, so that is exactly who you want to lynch not sure why you are denying this fact. Again I agree with the logic HF gave and the logic I put forward, I think scum lie in the OO vote and the fact you think mafia wouldn't vote on OO is just silly/scummy. I think you tried to see how much support there was for a palmar lynch, your attempt at a bandwagon, and when you realised no one wanted it you backtracked. honestly if you last minute switch to OO it really wouldn't put you as town because a) it is right at the end and OO was going to be the lynch anyway b) the only alternative was yourself so my reasoning is not superficial at all. and it is not contradictory. I also think it is a mafia play to just vote for someone who voted you and then just not shift at any point. it is like "I AM SO OUTRAGED". If your town then you are not being objective and are bad town, or you are scum. That is why excessive OMGUS is bad. All of this analysis is opinion. You're not taking any of the progression of my reads into account, nor are you accepting that there can be any town motivation for my actions. If there is a reasonable explanation for my actions, which I felt to have explained adequately, accept the fact that you might be wrong instead of posting analysis based on "what you think" my actions resulted from. what read progression? you thought hf was mafia and still think he is mafia right. I don't really like you thinking hope is top town. If you have other reads can you quote them for me. I don't see a town motivation and I really don't think your explanation is good enough for me. give me a reason why storr,grack,bs or palmar is a better lynch than you. Because I am town and they are not me. Qed. ugh I meant give me something that makes them scum. I would if I could. A majority of them are coasting/lurking right now and it makes it hard to read them explicitly. Same advice to Damdred goes to you, naturally. Obviously i'm going to update my reads as we get closer to day break and even though i've asked lots of questions i've given a couple town reads even if some of them are lacking. OO was policy but had scummy things going on just what it was. Anyway, you did try to derail the lynch and backpedaled out of it so you deserve a little of the pressure just be town obi and you won't get lynched today, never known you to get this upset about pressure before though.
Again, except I didn't actually do this and I explained it about a gajillion times.
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On October 09 2014 02:34 KelsierSC wrote:Show nested quote +On October 09 2014 02:31 ObiWanShinobi wrote:On October 09 2014 02:27 KelsierSC wrote:On October 09 2014 02:26 ObiWanShinobi wrote:On October 09 2014 02:24 KelsierSC wrote:On October 09 2014 02:01 ObiWanShinobi wrote:On October 09 2014 01:51 KelsierSC wrote:On October 09 2014 01:05 ObiWanShinobi wrote:On October 09 2014 00:45 KelsierSC wrote:On October 09 2014 00:41 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
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Explain your reasoning pls. I gave reasons why you were scummy when I rejoined the thread, basically around the voting/post vote you looked really scummy. And now you think that people who voted for OO are all clean and the vote is between BH,palmar , Grak and Storr? The mafia would know OO is scummy so why would they switch off him, easier to stick there to gain credibility. The fact you don't realise this really makes you scummy to me. And the scummier you get the townier HF gets. Although this isn't the only reason I think he is town now. No, I thought the vote should have been between everyone off of the OO wagon. HF himself came in and stated that OO would basically tell people to bus him (which really is the most ridiculous thing in the world) which means that the most likely place to find mafia would still be on his bandwagon...Somehow. And I never said the OO wagon was clean in the first place. I said that the best lynches would most likely be the ones off the bandwagon, and before then I even gave reasoning as to why I think HF could have motivation to kill OO as either alignment. Alternatively, if mafia wouldn't switch off of OO, and I didn't vote OO, how does that make sense within the context of mafia voting OO to look town? Wouldn't that, by the virtue of your own heuristic, have made sense for me to just vote OO and look better instead of trying to go after someone that is supposedly "supertown" to you? Right now, your entire perception of the game hinges on me being scum and throwing away my vote while mafia would just vote OO. That...Doesn't make sense. My current issues with your analysis: 1) It's superficial. Saying that the entire wagon on my is town because "you didn't think it could gain traction" is kind of dumb, especially when Palmar gave the exact same reasoning I did for staying off the OO wagon. Alternatively, why is it that my omgus is bad for town? You can't just say something is "bad" without backing it up. Why do you think this? Is it because you're just classifying what my thought process was at the time or do you think I had legitimate reasons to think these things? 2) It's contradictory. If mafia couldn't get an alternative bandwagon going, what makes you think I was trying so hard to do so? What makes you think that my suggestion to CFD Palmar was a 100% serious suggestion rather than a joke? If I couldn't gain traction for it, which is what you supposedly think, then why is it that it has to be a serious attempt rather than what you think is an awkward backtrack? The issue I have is that you're only looking at my actions one way. It looks really convenient that you think my entire wagon is town since mafia couldn't to get an alternative bandwagon going, but I'm scum because I tried to get an alternative bandwagon going. If anything you would think that my wagon was the alternative, so I don't understand where this thought process is coming from. Explain more pls. Right but the names I listed are the people off of the OO wagon, so that is exactly who you want to lynch not sure why you are denying this fact. Again I agree with the logic HF gave and the logic I put forward, I think scum lie in the OO vote and the fact you think mafia wouldn't vote on OO is just silly/scummy. I think you tried to see how much support there was for a palmar lynch, your attempt at a bandwagon, and when you realised no one wanted it you backtracked. honestly if you last minute switch to OO it really wouldn't put you as town because a) it is right at the end and OO was going to be the lynch anyway b) the only alternative was yourself so my reasoning is not superficial at all. and it is not contradictory. I also think it is a mafia play to just vote for someone who voted you and then just not shift at any point. it is like "I AM SO OUTRAGED". If your town then you are not being objective and are bad town, or you are scum. That is why excessive OMGUS is bad. All of this analysis is opinion. You're not taking any of the progression of my reads into account, nor are you accepting that there can be any town motivation for my actions. If there is a reasonable explanation for my actions, which I felt to have explained adequately, accept the fact that you might be wrong instead of posting analysis based on "what you think" my actions resulted from. what read progression? you thought hf was mafia and still think he is mafia right. I don't really like you thinking hope is top town. If you have other reads can you quote them for me. I don't see a town motivation and I really don't think your explanation is good enough for me. give me a reason why storr,grack,bs or palmar is a better lynch than you. Because I am town and they are not me. Qed. ugh I meant give me something that makes them scum. I would if I could. A majority of them are coasting/lurking right now and it makes it hard to read them explicitly. Same advice to Damdred goes to you, naturally. So you want to lynch them but you can't find anything that makes them scummy.
I can't find anything that makes them anything.
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Blazinghand
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On October 09 2014 02:34 ObiWanShinobi wrote:Show nested quote +On October 09 2014 02:31 Blazinghand wrote:On October 09 2014 02:25 ObiWanShinobi wrote:On October 09 2014 02:20 Blazinghand wrote:On October 09 2014 02:14 ObiWanShinobi wrote:On October 09 2014 02:10 Blazinghand wrote:
hf being mafia would have to be independent of him calling me scum. In fact, calling me scum is one of the towniest things you can do since it's so insane for scum to do. I mean, it's not any more now that I've said it, I'm just saying I don't see what scum motivation there would be for picking a fight with me Well I just called you scum, which makes me town. Ergo your analysis explodes into nothingness and I can go back to doing nothing. See you. This only applies if I'm not already attacking you, buddy. In any case, there's no way you can possibly avoid getting lynched tomorrow (outside of getting shot first) because my scumhunting skills are too good. EZ game EZ lyfe Then I can just poke holes in your case and call it stupid as well, especially since I've addressed your case about a thousand times over before you even posted it. So if you want to continue to be nitpicky n' shit, go ahead. yeah, "nitpicky" about the fact you tried to derail the lynch at the last moment you're a funny guy OWS Except I didn't actually do this and I explained myself about a gajillion times. You are nitpicking.
You can equivocate all you want, but when push came to shove, when the going got tough, you tried to derail the lynch. It's fact. You're dying tomorrow. If you're somehow town (hint: you're not, so you won't do this) you'll spend the last 60 hours you have alive making reads and leaving us with something useful. Since you're scum, you're just going to whine and complain until we lynch you.
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United Kingdom30774 Posts
Obvious One (8): Blazinghand, Alakaslam, Hopeless1der, Holyflare, Oatsmaster, liancourt, KelsierSC, Damdred
highly likely there is 1 mafia in this group of people, if i remove my town reads it becomes
Obvious One (8): Alakaslam, Oatsmaster, liancourt, KelsierSC, Damdred
could probably remove kelsier maybe, which leaves
Obvious One (8): Alakaslam, Oatsmaster, liancourt, Damdred
super lazy analysis will occur at some point on these 4
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On October 09 2014 02:38 ObiWanShinobi wrote:Show nested quote +On October 09 2014 02:34 KelsierSC wrote:On October 09 2014 02:31 ObiWanShinobi wrote:On October 09 2014 02:27 KelsierSC wrote:On October 09 2014 02:26 ObiWanShinobi wrote:On October 09 2014 02:24 KelsierSC wrote:On October 09 2014 02:01 ObiWanShinobi wrote:On October 09 2014 01:51 KelsierSC wrote:On October 09 2014 01:05 ObiWanShinobi wrote:On October 09 2014 00:45 KelsierSC wrote:
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I gave reasons why you were scummy when I rejoined the thread, basically around the voting/post vote you looked really scummy.
And now you think that people who voted for OO are all clean and the vote is between BH,palmar , Grak and Storr?
The mafia would know OO is scummy so why would they switch off him, easier to stick there to gain credibility.
The fact you don't realise this really makes you scummy to me.
And the scummier you get the townier HF gets. Although this isn't the only reason I think he is town now. No, I thought the vote should have been between everyone off of the OO wagon. HF himself came in and stated that OO would basically tell people to bus him (which really is the most ridiculous thing in the world) which means that the most likely place to find mafia would still be on his bandwagon...Somehow. And I never said the OO wagon was clean in the first place. I said that the best lynches would most likely be the ones off the bandwagon, and before then I even gave reasoning as to why I think HF could have motivation to kill OO as either alignment. Alternatively, if mafia wouldn't switch off of OO, and I didn't vote OO, how does that make sense within the context of mafia voting OO to look town? Wouldn't that, by the virtue of your own heuristic, have made sense for me to just vote OO and look better instead of trying to go after someone that is supposedly "supertown" to you? Right now, your entire perception of the game hinges on me being scum and throwing away my vote while mafia would just vote OO. That...Doesn't make sense. My current issues with your analysis: 1) It's superficial. Saying that the entire wagon on my is town because "you didn't think it could gain traction" is kind of dumb, especially when Palmar gave the exact same reasoning I did for staying off the OO wagon. Alternatively, why is it that my omgus is bad for town? You can't just say something is "bad" without backing it up. Why do you think this? Is it because you're just classifying what my thought process was at the time or do you think I had legitimate reasons to think these things? 2) It's contradictory. If mafia couldn't get an alternative bandwagon going, what makes you think I was trying so hard to do so? What makes you think that my suggestion to CFD Palmar was a 100% serious suggestion rather than a joke? If I couldn't gain traction for it, which is what you supposedly think, then why is it that it has to be a serious attempt rather than what you think is an awkward backtrack? The issue I have is that you're only looking at my actions one way. It looks really convenient that you think my entire wagon is town since mafia couldn't to get an alternative bandwagon going, but I'm scum because I tried to get an alternative bandwagon going. If anything you would think that my wagon was the alternative, so I don't understand where this thought process is coming from. Explain more pls. Right but the names I listed are the people off of the OO wagon, so that is exactly who you want to lynch not sure why you are denying this fact. Again I agree with the logic HF gave and the logic I put forward, I think scum lie in the OO vote and the fact you think mafia wouldn't vote on OO is just silly/scummy. I think you tried to see how much support there was for a palmar lynch, your attempt at a bandwagon, and when you realised no one wanted it you backtracked. honestly if you last minute switch to OO it really wouldn't put you as town because a) it is right at the end and OO was going to be the lynch anyway b) the only alternative was yourself so my reasoning is not superficial at all. and it is not contradictory. I also think it is a mafia play to just vote for someone who voted you and then just not shift at any point. it is like "I AM SO OUTRAGED". If your town then you are not being objective and are bad town, or you are scum. That is why excessive OMGUS is bad. All of this analysis is opinion. You're not taking any of the progression of my reads into account, nor are you accepting that there can be any town motivation for my actions. If there is a reasonable explanation for my actions, which I felt to have explained adequately, accept the fact that you might be wrong instead of posting analysis based on "what you think" my actions resulted from. what read progression? you thought hf was mafia and still think he is mafia right. I don't really like you thinking hope is top town. If you have other reads can you quote them for me. I don't see a town motivation and I really don't think your explanation is good enough for me. give me a reason why storr,grack,bs or palmar is a better lynch than you. Because I am town and they are not me. Qed. ugh I meant give me something that makes them scum. I would if I could. A majority of them are coasting/lurking right now and it makes it hard to read them explicitly. Same advice to Damdred goes to you, naturally. So you want to lynch them but you can't find anything that makes them scummy. I can't find anything that makes them anything.
I promise you I'm something
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United Kingdom10443 Posts
On October 09 2014 02:38 ObiWanShinobi wrote:Show nested quote +On October 09 2014 02:34 KelsierSC wrote:On October 09 2014 02:31 ObiWanShinobi wrote:On October 09 2014 02:27 KelsierSC wrote:On October 09 2014 02:26 ObiWanShinobi wrote:On October 09 2014 02:24 KelsierSC wrote:On October 09 2014 02:01 ObiWanShinobi wrote:On October 09 2014 01:51 KelsierSC wrote:On October 09 2014 01:05 ObiWanShinobi wrote:On October 09 2014 00:45 KelsierSC wrote:
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I gave reasons why you were scummy when I rejoined the thread, basically around the voting/post vote you looked really scummy.
And now you think that people who voted for OO are all clean and the vote is between BH,palmar , Grak and Storr?
The mafia would know OO is scummy so why would they switch off him, easier to stick there to gain credibility.
The fact you don't realise this really makes you scummy to me.
And the scummier you get the townier HF gets. Although this isn't the only reason I think he is town now. No, I thought the vote should have been between everyone off of the OO wagon. HF himself came in and stated that OO would basically tell people to bus him (which really is the most ridiculous thing in the world) which means that the most likely place to find mafia would still be on his bandwagon...Somehow. And I never said the OO wagon was clean in the first place. I said that the best lynches would most likely be the ones off the bandwagon, and before then I even gave reasoning as to why I think HF could have motivation to kill OO as either alignment. Alternatively, if mafia wouldn't switch off of OO, and I didn't vote OO, how does that make sense within the context of mafia voting OO to look town? Wouldn't that, by the virtue of your own heuristic, have made sense for me to just vote OO and look better instead of trying to go after someone that is supposedly "supertown" to you? Right now, your entire perception of the game hinges on me being scum and throwing away my vote while mafia would just vote OO. That...Doesn't make sense. My current issues with your analysis: 1) It's superficial. Saying that the entire wagon on my is town because "you didn't think it could gain traction" is kind of dumb, especially when Palmar gave the exact same reasoning I did for staying off the OO wagon. Alternatively, why is it that my omgus is bad for town? You can't just say something is "bad" without backing it up. Why do you think this? Is it because you're just classifying what my thought process was at the time or do you think I had legitimate reasons to think these things? 2) It's contradictory. If mafia couldn't get an alternative bandwagon going, what makes you think I was trying so hard to do so? What makes you think that my suggestion to CFD Palmar was a 100% serious suggestion rather than a joke? If I couldn't gain traction for it, which is what you supposedly think, then why is it that it has to be a serious attempt rather than what you think is an awkward backtrack? The issue I have is that you're only looking at my actions one way. It looks really convenient that you think my entire wagon is town since mafia couldn't to get an alternative bandwagon going, but I'm scum because I tried to get an alternative bandwagon going. If anything you would think that my wagon was the alternative, so I don't understand where this thought process is coming from. Explain more pls. Right but the names I listed are the people off of the OO wagon, so that is exactly who you want to lynch not sure why you are denying this fact. Again I agree with the logic HF gave and the logic I put forward, I think scum lie in the OO vote and the fact you think mafia wouldn't vote on OO is just silly/scummy. I think you tried to see how much support there was for a palmar lynch, your attempt at a bandwagon, and when you realised no one wanted it you backtracked. honestly if you last minute switch to OO it really wouldn't put you as town because a) it is right at the end and OO was going to be the lynch anyway b) the only alternative was yourself so my reasoning is not superficial at all. and it is not contradictory. I also think it is a mafia play to just vote for someone who voted you and then just not shift at any point. it is like "I AM SO OUTRAGED". If your town then you are not being objective and are bad town, or you are scum. That is why excessive OMGUS is bad. All of this analysis is opinion. You're not taking any of the progression of my reads into account, nor are you accepting that there can be any town motivation for my actions. If there is a reasonable explanation for my actions, which I felt to have explained adequately, accept the fact that you might be wrong instead of posting analysis based on "what you think" my actions resulted from. what read progression? you thought hf was mafia and still think he is mafia right. I don't really like you thinking hope is top town. If you have other reads can you quote them for me. I don't see a town motivation and I really don't think your explanation is good enough for me. give me a reason why storr,grack,bs or palmar is a better lynch than you. Because I am town and they are not me. Qed. ugh I meant give me something that makes them scum. I would if I could. A majority of them are coasting/lurking right now and it makes it hard to read them explicitly. Same advice to Damdred goes to you, naturally. So you want to lynch them but you can't find anything that makes them scummy. I can't find anything that makes them anything.
Right that is the whole fucking deal you say we need to lynch them but you can't even say why.
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On October 09 2014 02:38 Blazinghand wrote:Show nested quote +On October 09 2014 02:34 ObiWanShinobi wrote:On October 09 2014 02:31 Blazinghand wrote:On October 09 2014 02:25 ObiWanShinobi wrote:On October 09 2014 02:20 Blazinghand wrote:On October 09 2014 02:14 ObiWanShinobi wrote:On October 09 2014 02:10 Blazinghand wrote:
hf being mafia would have to be independent of him calling me scum. In fact, calling me scum is one of the towniest things you can do since it's so insane for scum to do. I mean, it's not any more now that I've said it, I'm just saying I don't see what scum motivation there would be for picking a fight with me Well I just called you scum, which makes me town. Ergo your analysis explodes into nothingness and I can go back to doing nothing. See you. This only applies if I'm not already attacking you, buddy. In any case, there's no way you can possibly avoid getting lynched tomorrow (outside of getting shot first) because my scumhunting skills are too good. EZ game EZ lyfe Then I can just poke holes in your case and call it stupid as well, especially since I've addressed your case about a thousand times over before you even posted it. So if you want to continue to be nitpicky n' shit, go ahead. yeah, "nitpicky" about the fact you tried to derail the lynch at the last moment you're a funny guy OWS Except I didn't actually do this and I explained myself about a gajillion times. You are nitpicking. You can equivocate all you want, but when push came to shove, when the going got tough, you tried to derail the lynch. It's fact. You're dying tomorrow. If you're somehow town (hint: you're not, so you won't do this) you'll spend the last 60 hours you have alive making reads and leaving us with something useful. Since you're scum, you're just going to whine and complain until we lynch you.
Good luck with that.
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On October 08 2014 10:34 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
Nha. Palmar looks okay atm and I think he's kinda town. I just think it'd be funny if he woke up lynched again.
In all seriousness, I don't particularly care for this OO lynch but I doubt I have any say in the matter. I don't really see any targets of mine that people will lynch any time soon.
I just really don't like plynches for this reason. Even if they somehow hit scum (they never do) I always get a little frustrated because I feel like nothing gets accomplished by doing so.
Ok obi, just for arguments sake i'll take the stance that you were making a joke because you did not like the policy lynch. Could you elaborate on the bolded portion of this post for me.
Just a quick explanation of who you would want to lynch tomorrow and why, was it just hf or someone else.
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United Kingdom10443 Posts
On October 09 2014 02:38 Holyflare wrote:
Obvious One (8): Blazinghand, Alakaslam, Hopeless1der, Holyflare, Oatsmaster, liancourt, KelsierSC, Damdred
highly likely there is 1 mafia in this group of people, if i remove my town reads it becomes
Obvious One (8): Alakaslam, Oatsmaster, liancourt, KelsierSC, Damdred
could probably remove kelsier maybe, which leaves
Obvious One (8): Alakaslam, Oatsmaster, liancourt, Damdred
super lazy analysis will occur at some point on these 4
Yeh good list, how come you are town reading hope?
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United Kingdom30774 Posts
i don't really remember, something about effort
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