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Damdred
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Harurh: FecalFeast: GlowingBear: Palmar: Batsnacks: Skydragon:: Fecalfeast, Killing, HaruRH Hopeless1der:: Palmar, superbia:: Holyflare Please remember to use the voting thread to cast votes. Voting is mandatory. And again, it is Plurality Lynch. Currently GlowingBear is set to be lynched with 3 votes. Deadline is Saturday, Sep 27 1:00am GMT (GMT+00:00) (in ).[/QUOTE] If any corrections need to be made inform the host or cohost | ||
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SkyDragon
United Kingdom142 Posts
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StorrZerg
United States13919 Posts
On September 27 2014 03:50 SkyDragon wrote: Yeah, but Scum is known to make excuses about real-world problems for their lack of activity. It gives them an excuse to just sit in the background while Town accuses each other for stupid reasons. Although I think Haru had a reasonably valid reason for getting excited about green vt, it still could be a ruse. Your eagerness at jumping on board the "Haru is town" train and even going as far as to protect Haru just seems really odd to me. and so are town. SO that statement is silly. I"M GOING TO BE VERY BUSY THIS WEEKEND BIKING 60+ MILES AND CAMPING. GUESS IM SCUM FOR LETTING PEOPLE KNOW ABOUT MY REAL LIFE SHIT A HEAD OF TIME. yeah see how silly that sounds? See how silly it is to make some assumption. You want to punish people for excuses after the fact to cover up inactivity. I like knowing if someone is going to be around at EoD, i like to know if someone is going to be gone for an extended period of time. If i know these things, then i don't have to waste time asking stupid questions, or pushing stupid shit when they are clearly not around. If someone is going to be afk the whole time, get replaced regardless of alignment. If someone claims they will be busy til X time, then is ON TO POST AND COMMENT. then why the hell would you not wait and let them comment then. | ||
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Holyflare
United Kingdom30774 Posts
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StorrZerg
United States13919 Posts
On September 26 2014 19:37 Holyflare wrote: Sure. This post. Sky disregards the entirety of batsnacks long posts about GB in like 1 or 2 sentences even though the case was pretty good. The bolded just seemed super weird in context because it's like "hey can't you see this guy is blatantly doing this!" when in actual fact he isn't really and it just seemed he knew GB's motives better than anyone else in the game did. What changed HF. | ||
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Holyflare
United Kingdom30774 Posts
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Holyflare
United Kingdom30774 Posts
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Holyflare
United Kingdom30774 Posts
On September 27 2014 01:18 Holyflare wrote: Just going to go out there and say this is almost the worst post in the thread. I said before and apparently superbia just criticised me for not reading it so I'll show you why it's ultimately terrible. First and foremost, his read on storr is so weird because it relies on storr stopping pushing on his scum read because a lot of pressure was on the scum read (many people have actually done this but superbia only focuses on storr here for no reason). Secondly, his null reads on Batsnacks and Palmar. Not only is his read on batsnacks super duper supppperrrr wishy washy it is ridiculous. He gives town points to storr for backing off on skydragon but then when batsnacks has supposedly posted towny things (in superbia's eyes) and then does the same thing as storr batsnacks could be scummy!?!?!? Not only that but then he further adds the scummiest thing ever in this paragraph that if skydragon flips town that batsnacks is scum. This is so uncalled for and makes so little sense that it screams scummy to me. His Palmar read is meh and he can't be bothered to research it for himself but it's not really anything to care about other than him only being able to trust palmar if hopeless flips mafia despite palmar pushing several people and not just hopeless. Now. Shit gets scummy. Not only does superbia scum read skydragon but throughout this entire post he has been saying people are scummy for scum reading and pressuring skydragon. Not only should this be contradictory to his own thought process but instead he should be determining the opposite reads, that the people pressuring his scum reads are more towny. Apparently just because he pressured sky when everyone else did fecal becomes somehow the scummiest out of EVERYONE in the game that did the same thing. Despite still scum reading sky. He also uses some crap about nobody calling him out for it which doesn't make any sense because what he has posted hasn't been too bad when I looked at it. Hopeless read is.... not really a read but w/e + Show Spoiler + On September 27 2014 02:19 Holyflare wrote: The red is just a flat out lie: can't read till day 2 ^ ^ not considering today can read later ^ he will fool you on day 1 and day 2 you can read him thennnnnnnnnnnnnnn magically your town read evolves out of nothing and he gets 1000 town points for doing something relatively straightforward but apparently you've already explained how he he is town and now you just get angry when I know your filter better than yourself The rest of your post is exactly what I was talking about before, you're living in a super world where sky flips town and making associations based on that despite him not flipping, yet, for some reason, the alternative isn't worth your time exploring despite being an easier thing to do. ESPECIALLY as you're scum reading sky so that should be the universe you are living in. + Show Spoiler + On September 27 2014 02:22 Holyflare wrote: Also your main scum read was fecalfeast who you said was jumping all over skydragon yet your choice of one scum jumping on skydragon was seemingly batsnacks who actually pulled off of skydragon. It's mindbogglingly inconsistent. here is everything so you can pay attention now and comment on more than just his useless town read of you because it is so so so much more than that | ||
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SkyDragon
United Kingdom142 Posts
Also, you admit that both sides could use that excuse, but Haru is Town because.. Well, just because you say he/she is. Of course, there's also the fact that things apparently just flowed "naturally" out of Haru when he/she admitted to being blue/green vt (According to you) and now you're willing to protect him/her against anything and everything now. Nice logic there. Flawed and something that I'd never, ever do because it just does not make sense. | ||
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Superbia
Netherlands8889 Posts
On September 27 2014 02:22 Holyflare wrote: Also your main scum read was fecalfeast who you said was jumping all over skydragon yet your choice of one scum jumping on skydragon was seemingly batsnacks who actually pulled off of skydragon. It's mindbogglingly inconsistent. This is actually a really good point. I can't believe I missed this. I feel a lot better about bats now. Going to read the rest of the thread now and do some diving on JAT. If there are any other questions feel free to ask them, I'm no longer in a rush. | ||
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Superbia
Netherlands8889 Posts
On September 27 2014 04:11 Holyflare wrote: + Show Spoiler + On September 27 2014 01:18 Holyflare wrote: Just going to go out there and say this is almost the worst post in the thread. I said before and apparently superbia just criticised me for not reading it so I'll show you why it's ultimately terrible. First and foremost, his read on storr is so weird because it relies on storr stopping pushing on his scum read because a lot of pressure was on the scum read (many people have actually done this but superbia only focuses on storr here for no reason). Secondly, his null reads on Batsnacks and Palmar. Not only is his read on batsnacks super duper supppperrrr wishy washy it is ridiculous. He gives town points to storr for backing off on skydragon but then when batsnacks has supposedly posted towny things (in superbia's eyes) and then does the same thing as storr batsnacks could be scummy!?!?!? Not only that but then he further adds the scummiest thing ever in this paragraph that if skydragon flips town that batsnacks is scum. This is so uncalled for and makes so little sense that it screams scummy to me. His Palmar read is meh and he can't be bothered to research it for himself but it's not really anything to care about other than him only being able to trust palmar if hopeless flips mafia despite palmar pushing several people and not just hopeless. Now. Shit gets scummy. Not only does superbia scum read skydragon but throughout this entire post he has been saying people are scummy for scum reading and pressuring skydragon. Not only should this be contradictory to his own thought process but instead he should be determining the opposite reads, that the people pressuring his scum reads are more towny. Apparently just because he pressured sky when everyone else did fecal becomes somehow the scummiest out of EVERYONE in the game that did the same thing. Despite still scum reading sky. He also uses some crap about nobody calling him out for it which doesn't make any sense because what he has posted hasn't been too bad when I looked at it. Hopeless read is.... not really a read but w/e + Show Spoiler + On September 27 2014 02:19 Holyflare wrote: The red is just a flat out lie: can't read till day 2 ^ ^ not considering today can read later ^ he will fool you on day 1 and day 2 you can read him thennnnnnnnnnnnnnn magically your town read evolves out of nothing and he gets 1000 town points for doing something relatively straightforward but apparently you've already explained how he he is town and now you just get angry when I know your filter better than yourself The rest of your post is exactly what I was talking about before, you're living in a super world where sky flips town and making associations based on that despite him not flipping, yet, for some reason, the alternative isn't worth your time exploring despite being an easier thing to do. ESPECIALLY as you're scum reading sky so that should be the universe you are living in. + Show Spoiler + On September 27 2014 02:22 Holyflare wrote: Also your main scum read was fecalfeast who you said was jumping all over skydragon yet your choice of one scum jumping on skydragon was seemingly batsnacks who actually pulled off of skydragon. It's mindbogglingly inconsistent. here is everything so you can pay attention now and comment on more than just his useless town read of you because it is so so so much more than that Do you feel there is anything I haven't responded to yet? | ||
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Superbia
Netherlands8889 Posts
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Holyflare
United Kingdom30774 Posts
On September 27 2014 04:14 Superbia wrote: All right, I'm back. Let me explain my read on StorrZerg one last time. I'm pretty confident in hard-reading him from d2+ (it has to do with proactivity). This does not mean I can't have any other reads on him, nor does it mean that is my only read on him. I feel like Storr is town already, simply based on how proactive he is (and his pushes make sense). The thousand town points I gave him are arbitrary, but him giving Sky some space felt very town to me. I was reading him town before this, however. This is actually a really good point. I can't believe I missed this. I feel a lot better about bats now. Going to read the rest of the thread now and do some diving on JAT. If there are any other questions feel free to ask them, I'm no longer in a rush. It's very weird that you decide to make a list post, which is already pretty inconsistent with what you were doing in your newbie game before but then NOT include everything about the player that you are town reading or scum reading is it not? It is also particularly strange that you stated you had given reasons for storr being town previously but you had not at all. So really, the only reason in your filter for storr being town is his leaving pressure off of skydragon. It is only now that you are retroactively adding things on. You've also neglected to comment on why you decided it was best to live in worlds where scum were likely to be pressuring skydragon repeatedly when you are scum reading skydragon yourself. If you are scum reading this person then why are you scum reading people for continuing to pressure their scum read......? Why aren't you instead dismissing any potential world where skydragon flips mafia. Your entire reads are based off of him flipping town pretty much. | ||
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Holyflare
United Kingdom30774 Posts
On September 27 2014 04:17 Superbia wrote: Also why did you link to my newbie game's filter but not my more recent game's filter? You don't have games in the database so i clicked an arbitrary page number in your profile and saw the newbie. It's kind of bad but I actually forgot you were in the last game with me. | ||
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Superbia
Netherlands8889 Posts
On September 27 2014 01:19 Palmar wrote: where the hell is your case on FF? Btw, I started his filter, and he seems to have a pretty casual/joking attitude early game. Sure it's easy to fake as mafia, but I'm not sure it makes him one, but I'm only like 1/3 through. My first big post elaborates on his behaviour and how I feel he's being two contradictory things at the same time (confident and apologetic). After this post the only thing he does is join in on an easy push on Sky, which is very easy and just nothing. I feel like he isn't being proactive and he isn't trying to find scum. He can only get scummier if he actually hard claims mafia. | ||
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Holyflare
United Kingdom30774 Posts
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GlowingBear
Brazil12446 Posts
This is bizarre. Let me think about this vote count a little | ||
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HaruRH
Singapore2780 Posts
On September 27 2014 04:23 Superbia wrote: My first big post elaborates on his behaviour and how I feel he's being two contradictory things at the same time (confident and apologetic). After this post the only thing he does is join in on an easy push on Sky, which is very easy and just nothing. I feel like he isn't being proactive and he isn't trying to find scum. He can only get scummier if he actually hard claims mafia. ... youre claiming mafia right? ##Vote:superbia | ||
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HaruRH
Singapore2780 Posts
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Superbia
Netherlands8889 Posts
On September 27 2014 04:22 Holyflare wrote: It's very weird that you decide to make a list post, which is already pretty inconsistent with what you were doing in your newbie game before but then NOT include everything about the player that you are town reading or scum reading is it not? It is also particularly strange that you stated you had given reasons for storr being town previously but you had not at all. So really, the only reason in your filter for storr being town is his leaving pressure off of skydragon. It is only now that you are retroactively adding things on. You've also neglected to comment on why you decided it was best to live in worlds where scum were likely to be pressuring skydragon repeatedly when you are scum reading skydragon yourself. If you are scum reading this person then why are you scum reading people for continuing to pressure their scum read......? Why aren't you instead dismissing any potential world where skydragon flips mafia. Your entire reads are based off of him flipping town pretty much. At this point I'm not going to elaborate on my read on Storr until at least EoD2. I don't want him to know how I read him in case he's still scum here, which I will probably know by the end of d2. Also this is my 4th game of mafia ever (3rd game of forum mafia), I'm not going to stick to the same style as I did during my newbie game. Like my last game wasn't even the same as my newbie game. I'm not sure about Sky being scum dude. I don't have a hard read on him. As such I'm going to live in both worlds until he actually flips. So yes, I will look ahead and contemplate on what might happen. I felt like him flipping town would give me the most info as there were a lot of people pushing on him, so I was focusing on that world. As soon as a multitude of people just straight up joined in on the push I felt very iffy about it. Don't get me wrong, I still think he might be scum, but I didn't like how a lot of people just straight up joined the push. | ||
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