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StorrZerg
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States13921 Posts
September 29 2014 15:03 GMT
#1828
Because most of discussion directed at myself from you is not productive. You insult, degrade, yell, moan, whine.

Couple that with I think you are scum

And you wonder why??
Hwaseung Oz fan for life. Swing out, always swing out.
StorrZerg
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States13921 Posts
September 29 2014 15:04 GMT
#1831
On September 30 2014 00:02 Holyflare wrote:
Like batsnacks quite literally votes me abd only votes palmar AFTER he does the policy stuff and then gets wound up enough to yell he's not actually the seer. Yet. You thought that made him the seer but you JUST SAID YOU THOUGHT KILLING WAS THE SEER.


Yes I can think both ideas have merit
Hwaseung Oz fan for life. Swing out, always swing out.
StorrZerg
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States13921 Posts
September 29 2014 15:10 GMT
#1835
On September 30 2014 00:03 justanothertownie wrote:
True. If you caught Killings cop play day1 why the hell would you assume batsnacks is cop.


Because he was playing so bad. And his claim was on a dead and a green on the only person to soft. If he is going to fake, and protect the real cop that's how he does it. No chance of miss information on a check, protection on the real cop to get 1 more check
Hwaseung Oz fan for life. Swing out, always swing out.
StorrZerg
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States13921 Posts
September 29 2014 15:12 GMT
#1836
On September 30 2014 00:09 justanothertownie wrote:
I'll be back in a few hours. Looking forward to the "analysis" Skydragon is going to provide.



Me too lol
Hwaseung Oz fan for life. Swing out, always swing out.
StorrZerg
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States13921 Posts
September 29 2014 15:16 GMT
#1838
On September 30 2014 00:12 Holyflare wrote:
Absolutely not storr. You would have seen about 4 people analyse why killimg was the cop. He added hopeless to his town circle day 1 based on nothing and defended him and the same with batsnacks early in the day. Why did you think batsnacks was the cop when it was obvious killing was?



So hopeless was the only 1 in his town circle with little or no reason?

Nope..
Hwaseung Oz fan for life. Swing out, always swing out.
StorrZerg
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States13921 Posts
September 29 2014 15:46 GMT
#1842
On September 30 2014 00:36 Holyflare wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 30 2014 00:16 StorrZerg wrote:
On September 30 2014 00:12 Holyflare wrote:
Absolutely not storr. You would have seen about 4 people analyse why killimg was the cop. He added hopeless to his town circle day 1 based on nothing and defended him and the same with batsnacks early in the day. Why did you think batsnacks was the cop when it was obvious killing was?



So hopeless was the only 1 in his town circle with little or no reason?

Nope..


Yes actually



actually no. haru was just as weak as HF. its jsut interesting no one comments about haru for him.
Hwaseung Oz fan for life. Swing out, always swing out.
StorrZerg
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States13921 Posts
September 29 2014 20:16 GMT
#1864
ok took some time to think. going to filter dive and relook
Hwaseung Oz fan for life. Swing out, always swing out.
StorrZerg
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States13921 Posts
September 29 2014 20:42 GMT
#1866
On September 30 2014 05:26 batsnacks wrote:
FF if I could afford to gamble, I'd be gambling that HF rage was disingenuous.

I can't afford to gamble though.


so you take a gamble on me?
Hwaseung Oz fan for life. Swing out, always swing out.
StorrZerg
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States13921 Posts
September 29 2014 20:47 GMT
#1868
comments in blue


On September 27 2014 22:33 HaruRH wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 27 2014 09:56 Holyflare wrote:
FecalFeast: Superbia
Skydragon:: Killing, StorrZerg, Hopeless1der
Hopeless1der:: Palmar, Holyflare, batsnacks, skydragon, fecalfeast, justanothertownie. ObiWanShinobi
superbia:: HaruRH
Killing:: Glowingbear



Alright, this vote count is more accurate than yamato's final vote count.

I am going to make some assumptions here:

1) You just have to accept that I am town.
2) Almost all wolf were on hopeless. It is NOT possible that all the wolf were superbia,killing storrZerg. However, there certainly is 1 or 2 wolf amongst these 3.

States most wolves would be on hopeless, yet thinks a possible 2 within 3 people. feels odd to think this way from a town perspective.

2 wolfies between:
Palmar, Holyflare, batsnacks, skydragon, fecalfeast, justanothertownie.

1 wolf between: Killing, storrZerg, superbia.

We now have it restated that we only have 1 wolf now between these 3. When earlier it could have been 2. I think this comes from a mafia perspective, trying to force out what should be correct, while avoiding "reading" people.

I distributed my wolfreads as such because 1) mafia always try to vote on the largest wagon to not feel left out. 2)at least/most 1 mafia would split off and vote some random player.

I am very certain that glowingbear was killed because he was right. There was no way they killed him for the lulz when there is HF,palmar, jat etc as town. He is also not overwhelmingly town. In fact, he smelt scum to me for a while.

The assurance that GB was right. Yet only talking about the mafia reads on gb. Not the town reads. This seems like forced information about the dead. Directed, specific. I find it interesting that he lists off townies as HF palmar jat as "town"what chance did any of these 3 have to die in the night for n1? holy pushed a wrong lynch very hard, palmar we now know is town, jat wasn't super active, nor did he push a correct direction. So why did any of these 3 mean anything more than GB from haru's perspective.

His wolf reads were: killing, storrzerg, batsnacks
This is very interesting, i think we now know why GB was killed. All his mafia reads are wrong. Killing was cop, bats has been green checked, and i'm town. GB was clearly not on the right track, he was not killed because of how well he was scum hunting. He was killed for how off track he was, and how town he looked.
I am going to say that i too think killing was wolf. Not superbia.

I am also going to say that HF is maybe town. But i still need to see what he is going to do.

Therefore, my lynchlist for d2 is(in order of scumminess):
Killing
batsnacks
skydragon


I'm really not sure why haru has been leaving me out so much. Have i been avoiding haru? yes, defending on policy sure. logically i should be in here. Even on day 3, haru keeps "forgetting about me"

I am still unsure of skydragon and less unsure of batsnacks, but i am quite sure of killing. Lets lynch him. It will reveal tons of info too even if he flip town.

What would we have learned at this point if he flips town? At this point in time, he had been fairly low key, had pointed out quite a few town reads, had a few mafia reads. As a town, if i had stated something like this, wouldn't it also be important to let others know what we would learn? there is no follow up to this, even though he wasn't lynched, he did die in the night, he did have reads, yet haru doesn't follow up or give input to what we should have learned.







as soon as we have claim from Killing, haru falls off terribly on day 2. checks out of the game. all motivation stops to lynch killing, and provides no input as to how the day should go.

Hwaseung Oz fan for life. Swing out, always swing out.
StorrZerg
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States13921 Posts
September 29 2014 20:50 GMT
#1869
On September 29 2014 22:42 HaruRH wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 27 2014 09:56 Holyflare wrote:
FecalFeast: Superbia
Skydragon:: Killing, Storrzerg, Hopeless1der
Hopeless1der:: Palmar, Holyflare, batsnacks, skydragon, fecalfeast, justanothertownie. ObiWanShinobi
superbia:: HaruRH
Killing:: Glowingbear



Killing obviously had a red on JAT. If you guys don't lynch him now, the game is over.


now i know i haven't been fully involved with the game day 2. But this is strange.

What I can learn about this is. (being the vote check) Everyone on sky EoD 1 was town.

Which means that Haru, and Superbia would be the only 2 people who did not join in on hopeless wagon, and are not confirmed.


I'm inclined to think that one of 1 haru and 1 of superbia would be mafia for not switching onto sky or hopeless. Both happen to be on cases at the end of the day that had no way of being a lynch.

As for my previous post. i don't know about haru. But the points that are brought up are very clear now.
Why gb died.
how oddly specific haru was about why gb died, and how much haru talked about the death of gb.

ill be diving superbia next
Hwaseung Oz fan for life. Swing out, always swing out.
StorrZerg
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States13921 Posts
September 29 2014 20:57 GMT
#1870
On September 30 2014 05:46 batsnacks wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 30 2014 05:42 StorrZerg wrote:
On September 30 2014 05:26 batsnacks wrote:
FF if I could afford to gamble, I'd be gambling that HF rage was disingenuous.

I can't afford to gamble though.


so you take a gamble on me?


You pay better attention to the voting thread than you do this thread. I really like my odds with you.


if i'm going to be lynched because of my busy weekend and inability to be fully focused on day 2 so be it.

had a bad hunch about killing and you, so be it. Your stubbornness and hostile actions end of day 2, helped to reinforce the idea that you would be the cop. You didnt give 2 shits about trying to convince people about palmar. I made a mistake in figuring that you didn't know why palmar was really scummy, i figured the only reason you couldn't re-explain or want to re-explain was because you had a red check on him and wanted him dead.

O sure i know aftermath that the signs happened to be there, but i didn't have the time to fully reread the thread. I wasn't getting any help, i made mistakes.

wouldn't it have been just far easier to push sky near the end, ignore your bickering, avoid this unnecessary attention to myself. wait yes it would have been.

I did what i could, i checked in, let people know when i could be back. And when i was back, i tried lynch mafia. Not being as active as one likes has its draw backs, we all know this. So bats, stop being a donkey. And try and lynch mafia today.
Hwaseung Oz fan for life. Swing out, always swing out.
StorrZerg
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States13921 Posts
September 29 2014 21:04 GMT
#1871
btw Superbia has promised and updated read on me.

considering why i was inactive for day 2. he should be able to form his read at least 12 hours before EoD today.
Hwaseung Oz fan for life. Swing out, always swing out.
StorrZerg
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States13921 Posts
September 29 2014 21:30 GMT
#1872
anyone on...

i don't like that he blatantly let his vote go to waste day 1.

i still like him for trying to push sky for most of day 2.
and i like how upset he is end of day 2 from a town perspective. I think mafia super, would not care so much EoD if both lynches are on a town. I think he cares if he is mafia with palmar. (or goes inactive to avoid being called to switch) I think he switches his vote to palmar if sky is mafia with him. (great reason to switch, wagon started by a confirmed town, and pushed hard by another town) Very easy to follow something like this, and not have a spot light on oneself.

Hwaseung Oz fan for life. Swing out, always swing out.
StorrZerg
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States13921 Posts
September 29 2014 21:56 GMT
#1874
fantastic you are on. lets see some good content from you
Hwaseung Oz fan for life. Swing out, always swing out.
StorrZerg
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States13921 Posts
September 29 2014 22:09 GMT
#1878
On September 30 2014 06:58 Fecalfeast wrote:
So am I the only one who thinks maybe we should lynch the guy we've been trying to lynch all game?


nah he is still a fantastic lynch.
Hwaseung Oz fan for life. Swing out, always swing out.
StorrZerg
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States13921 Posts
September 29 2014 22:11 GMT
#1879
On September 30 2014 07:02 batsnacks wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 30 2014 06:58 Fecalfeast wrote:
So am I the only one who thinks maybe we should lynch the guy we've been trying to lynch all game?


He did have an opportunity to switch to Palmar. Not that he needed to in the end but he didn't know that. I think mafia votes Palmar in that position.


then who are the mafia?
Hwaseung Oz fan for life. Swing out, always swing out.
StorrZerg
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States13921 Posts
September 29 2014 22:33 GMT
#1887
On September 30 2014 07:32 justanothertownie wrote:
Whatever. Going to bed,
We need to lynch scum today and I think our best odds for that are killing Sky or Storrzerg.


might gain information. but absolutely will not be lynching a scum if you lynch me
Hwaseung Oz fan for life. Swing out, always swing out.
StorrZerg
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States13921 Posts
September 29 2014 22:34 GMT
#1890
superbia care to check in
Hwaseung Oz fan for life. Swing out, always swing out.
StorrZerg
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States13921 Posts
September 29 2014 22:35 GMT
#1893
On September 30 2014 07:33 justanothertownie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 30 2014 07:31 batsnacks wrote:
On September 30 2014 07:26 justanothertownie wrote:
On September 30 2014 07:22 batsnacks wrote:
On September 30 2014 07:11 StorrZerg wrote:
On September 30 2014 07:02 batsnacks wrote:
On September 30 2014 06:58 Fecalfeast wrote:
So am I the only one who thinks maybe we should lynch the guy we've been trying to lynch all game?


He did have an opportunity to switch to Palmar. Not that he needed to in the end but he didn't know that. I think mafia votes Palmar in that position.


then who are the mafia?


I don't know. I'm trying to figure out if the people who switched to Palmar yesterday are scummy for doing so or not. If Palmar and SkyDragon are both town then it sort of makes sense for mafia not to switch just to draw less attention. Palmar was a much more valuable asset than SkyDragon though, so that could justify a risk.

I need someone with better reads than I have to comment.

If Sky is town mafia could do whatever they wanted. But as you noticed even then there was a strong motivation to kill Palmar because he is the way better and more dangerous player. And there is no real drawback to pushing him since our confirmed town somehow was having a hard on for him.

It is much more likely that Sky is just scum though.


Why is it so much more likely that Sky is scum? He refused to do anything to save himself yesterday, like that Palmar lynch would have been easy if we had his vote.

Maybe he just wasn't around? To me it seemed that he had already given up at that point.


joke right?
Hwaseung Oz fan for life. Swing out, always swing out.
StorrZerg
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States13921 Posts
September 29 2014 22:45 GMT
#1902
Anyone care to comment on haru
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