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Grackaroni
Profile Joined July 2011
United States9846 Posts
September 18 2014 19:41 GMT
#21
/in
Grackaroni
Profile Joined July 2011
United States9846 Posts
September 23 2014 18:02 GMT
#213
On September 24 2014 02:45 Blazinghand wrote:
I'm here to save you

/out

But TL Mafia is already dying from lack of Blazinghand.
Grackaroni
Profile Joined July 2011
United States9846 Posts
September 23 2014 22:15 GMT
#232
I got Kushm4sta. It might just be in order of sign ups.
Grackaroni
Profile Joined July 2011
United States9846 Posts
September 23 2014 22:25 GMT
#237
On September 24 2014 07:21 Hapahauli wrote:
I'm with abuse.

##Vote Abuse

I am not a nice partner.


Ouch even though he's statistically the least likely person to be mafia from your POV.
Grackaroni
Profile Joined July 2011
United States9846 Posts
September 23 2014 22:32 GMT
#248
You would lynch 3rd party? I probably would have just claimed if I got 3rd party since you can win with anyone and just promise not to poison/douse people.
Grackaroni
Profile Joined July 2011
United States9846 Posts
September 23 2014 22:40 GMT
#253
I guess that narrows CR/VE out of the lynch pool for today.
Grackaroni
Profile Joined July 2011
United States9846 Posts
September 23 2014 22:44 GMT
#256
On September 24 2014 07:41 Hapahauli wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 24 2014 07:40 Grackaroni wrote:
I guess that narrows CR/VE out of the lynch pool for today.


Incorrect. We lynch who we think is mafia. Not who we find statistically likely to be town or mafia.

well I'd rather look for the 2 mafia group first. It's much easier to use POE to find 2 people together who don't seem very townie when you can narrow out other people from being in that group with a strong town read on just one player.
Grackaroni
Profile Joined July 2011
United States9846 Posts
September 23 2014 22:53 GMT
#259
On September 24 2014 07:42 Hapahauli wrote:
##Vote Grakaroni

I am not a fan of how you so offhandedly dismissed VE from the lynch pool.

I can understand disagreeing with me but I don't quite understand why this is scummy? Are you implying that I was trying to protect a scum VE before he even posted?
Grackaroni
Profile Joined July 2011
United States9846 Posts
September 23 2014 22:59 GMT
#262
On September 24 2014 07:53 VayneAuthority wrote:
CR is basically a mafia medic why arent we lynching him again? there hasnt been an easier d1 lynch in ages. im fine with you correctly pointing out grack's weird dismissal of VE but not with your vote.

He's not a mafia medic. CR has the option to save somebody and if he saves somebody his win-con changes to a town win-con.
Grackaroni
Profile Joined July 2011
United States9846 Posts
September 23 2014 23:29 GMT
#273
On September 24 2014 08:17 geript wrote:
Oh thank god. I'm not Vayne's partner. Unfortunately I got mystery meat so who knows how that will end up.

Alright I'm kind of curious. Is there a Vayne-Geript feud? I'm not up to date with the mafia drama
Grackaroni
Profile Joined July 2011
United States9846 Posts
September 24 2014 00:03 GMT
#281
On September 24 2014 08:58 Damdred wrote:
Best plan atm is all third parties claim, and we lynch into ccs or the people who aren't.

Cuts the lynch pool by a lot and will help focus town

Good idea. Anyone else want to claim 3rd party?
Grackaroni
Profile Joined July 2011
United States9846 Posts
September 24 2014 00:48 GMT
#292
I don't think anyone is going to claim lol
Grackaroni
Profile Joined July 2011
United States9846 Posts
September 24 2014 00:56 GMT
#294
Somebody get in a shit fight
Grackaroni
Profile Joined July 2011
United States9846 Posts
September 24 2014 01:05 GMT
#296
If Blazinghand were here I could have done some random lynch shenanigans.
Grackaroni
Profile Joined July 2011
United States9846 Posts
September 24 2014 01:31 GMT
#299
On September 24 2014 10:21 VayneAuthority wrote:
alright so thats mod confirmation no one can argue now that CR isnt a mafia medic if he is indeed defender hence why he needs to die. He already stated plainly that he'll be saving mafia this game.

You're still misreading it. CR "has the option to save mafia" but regardless of who he saves he sacrifices himself and now he wins with town. If he saves mafia he is actively playing against his own win condition. That is why he is not a mafia medic.
Grackaroni
Profile Joined July 2011
United States9846 Posts
September 24 2014 01:40 GMT
#307
I was actually leaning more townie on Hapa. I liked his explanation for voting me.
Grackaroni
Profile Joined July 2011
United States9846 Posts
September 24 2014 01:45 GMT
#308
On September 24 2014 10:33 geript wrote:
CR-VE
Hapa-Abuse
Vayne--DP
Grack--Kush but Kush isn't on the sign up
Geript--MysteryMeat
Oats--Damdred

So here's where we're at.

Kush is rightinthefeels.
Which leaves Yamato/Prom paired together
Grackaroni
Profile Joined July 2011
United States9846 Posts
September 24 2014 02:43 GMT
#323
I want those townie points but I don't know why.
Grackaroni
Profile Joined July 2011
United States9846 Posts
September 24 2014 02:46 GMT
#332
On September 24 2014 11:43 VisceraEyes wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 24 2014 11:43 Grackaroni wrote:
I want those townie points but I don't know why.

I get 'em bitch, I gave reasoning. You just quoted a post GET OFF ME!!!

lol no that was Damdred. I didn't even quote the post I just begged for the points.
Grackaroni
Profile Joined July 2011
United States9846 Posts
September 24 2014 03:04 GMT
#341
I can get behind a Geript lynch

##Vote: Geript
Grackaroni
Profile Joined July 2011
United States9846 Posts
September 24 2014 03:11 GMT
#342
Now everyone's gone?
Grackaroni
Profile Joined July 2011
United States9846 Posts
September 24 2014 04:01 GMT
#363
On September 24 2014 12:53 DarthPunk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 24 2014 10:40 Grackaroni wrote:
I was actually leaning more townie on Hapa. I liked his explanation for voting me.


What did hapa say that makes you think voting for you was townie?

What specifically did you like about it?

On September 24 2014 07:59 Hapahauli wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 24 2014 07:53 Grackaroni wrote:
On September 24 2014 07:42 Hapahauli wrote:
##Vote Grakaroni

I am not a fan of how you so offhandedly dismissed VE from the lynch pool.

I can understand disagreeing with me but I don't quite understand why this is scummy? Are you implying that I was trying to protect a scum VE before he even posted?


Nah just throwing my vote around 'cause why not.

What you said makes sense. I disagree, but makes sense.

##Unvote

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On September 24 2014 07:53 VayneAuthority wrote:
CR is basically a mafia medic why arent we lynching him again? there hasnt been an easier d1 lynch in ages. im fine with you correctly pointing out grack's weird dismissal of VE but not with your vote.


I'd much rather lynch mafia than a 3rd party. Also, how is he a mafia medic? If defender saves someone, they win with town, apparently regardless of the alignment of the saved person.

I didn't see any reason for me being scummy so I thought Hapa's vote was strange but I vote people like that sometimes too as town just to get the game started faster and start getting info. I think scum would feel more pressured to justify their vote rather than backtrack.
Grackaroni
Profile Joined July 2011
United States9846 Posts
September 24 2014 04:04 GMT
#365
On September 24 2014 12:51 DarthPunk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 24 2014 12:04 Grackaroni wrote:
I can get behind a Geript lynch

##Vote: Geript


Why?
What is so convincing about hapa's case on geript that makes you able to get behind a lynch on him?

Geript's posts just feel really awkward to me so I guess I like Hapa's narrative. Not realizing he has a qt doesn't really help his case.
Grackaroni
Profile Joined July 2011
United States9846 Posts
September 24 2014 04:26 GMT
#378
On September 24 2014 11:44 MysteryMeat1 wrote:
I actually dont like cr's play atm either. Hes roled mafia every game on tl, and complains everytime that he isnt town. I feel like he would be happier to play.

On September 24 2014 11:58 MysteryMeat1 wrote:
@Haphauli

I believe it. He claimed early and no cc atm

I'm a bit confused about this. The first quote seems to imply that CR might be mafia right?
Grackaroni
Profile Joined July 2011
United States9846 Posts
September 24 2014 04:29 GMT
#381
lol wrong account Kush
Grackaroni
Profile Joined July 2011
United States9846 Posts
September 24 2014 05:03 GMT
#423
Doesn't look like much fun to me
Grackaroni
Profile Joined July 2011
United States9846 Posts
September 24 2014 05:32 GMT
#449
Kush was legit confused. He asked me if we were mafia in qt.
Grackaroni
Profile Joined July 2011
United States9846 Posts
September 24 2014 05:49 GMT
#460
Which Vayne quotes have seemed sensible? All he's done is talk about CR being a mafia medic. It's actually made me lean kind of townie on Vayne.
Grackaroni
Profile Joined July 2011
United States9846 Posts
September 24 2014 06:17 GMT
#472
On September 24 2014 15:14 geript wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 24 2014 12:19 yamato77 wrote:
On September 24 2014 11:42 geript wrote:
Nm I lied. I have a QT. Just missed it.

lol

this is why hapa

Show nested quote +
On September 24 2014 12:33 Hapahauli wrote:
That too.

This specifically bugs me. I think town Hapa would point out that, regardless of alignment, I would get a QT. Hapa lumping that in the scum pile makes me think he's not actually concerned with thinking about the game critically.

I think the reasoning there is that you're more likely to not notice a 2nd qt as scum than to not notice you got a qt as town.
Grackaroni
Profile Joined July 2011
United States9846 Posts
September 24 2014 06:32 GMT
#482
Yeah I have to agree I'm liking Geript's posts right now.
##Unvote: Geript
Grackaroni
Profile Joined July 2011
United States9846 Posts
September 24 2014 06:52 GMT
#508
I think I want to lynch Oatsmaster now.

Yamato/Prom (kind of liking Yamato as town he actually seemed interested in getting discussion started this game)
DP/Vayne (leaning town on both atm but I don't have much experience reading DP)
Grack/Kush (Kush is actually a strong town read for me for the same reason as DP)
Geript/MM1 (I think Geript has seemed really townie recently)
CR/VE (CR claimed 3rd party)
Hapa/abuse (Not as confident on hapa anymore but he's easy to read based on activity later in the game anyway)

Grackaroni
Profile Joined July 2011
United States9846 Posts
September 24 2014 07:00 GMT
#515
On September 24 2014 15:57 geript wrote:
Holy shit. If my townreads are right, then that means that CR/VE must both be mafia. Ugh.

nah there's still the Oats/Damdred group left out

##Vote: Oatsmaster
Grackaroni
Profile Joined July 2011
United States9846 Posts
September 24 2014 07:09 GMT
#523
On September 24 2014 16:07 VisceraEyes wrote:
Oh and Grack is maybe town tow too. But then we start getting into "well then all the lurkers must be scum" territory, so I'm gonna go ahead and hedge and say "null" on Grack. <3

I feel cheated
Grackaroni
Profile Joined July 2011
United States9846 Posts
September 24 2014 07:16 GMT
#527
On September 24 2014 16:13 VisceraEyes wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 24 2014 16:09 Grackaroni wrote:
On September 24 2014 16:07 VisceraEyes wrote:
Oh and Grack is maybe town tow too. But then we start getting into "well then all the lurkers must be scum" territory, so I'm gonna go ahead and hedge and say "null" on Grack. <3

I feel cheated

I WANNA call you town Grack does that count?

Ill take it.

Grackaroni
Profile Joined July 2011
United States9846 Posts
September 24 2014 07:22 GMT
#529
I think VEs just jealous he had to share the townie points
Grackaroni
Profile Joined July 2011
United States9846 Posts
September 24 2014 07:30 GMT
#536
It's strange but that seems to me to be a thought that would come afterwards. "Why did hapa do this if there was nothing specific in the filter to point out?"
Grackaroni
Profile Joined July 2011
United States9846 Posts
September 24 2014 07:37 GMT
#542
Normally people do this when they found a slip or something. Not "try to read my mind for why I think somebody is scum"
Grackaroni
Profile Joined July 2011
United States9846 Posts
September 24 2014 16:22 GMT
#635
Are you trolling us Vayne?
Grackaroni
Profile Joined July 2011
United States9846 Posts
September 24 2014 16:30 GMT
#648
On September 25 2014 01:27 VisceraEyes wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 25 2014 01:24 Promethelax wrote:
On September 25 2014 01:21 VayneAuthority wrote:
On September 25 2014 01:20 Promethelax wrote:
On September 25 2014 01:16 VayneAuthority wrote:
prom I received mod confirmation on how his role works -_- what is there to not understand? its in the thread read host's filter.


And you kept pushing him after that. Or at least that was what I saw when I was reading the thread. Am I wrong? Do you no longer believe him to be the best lynch?

Damdred: you made posts and they were meaningless. Everyone posted before me but I did not find what you posted useful or interesting. Feel free to contribute now and be memorable


the mod post gave even greater incentive to lynch him considering what CR posted before he left for what seems like the entire cycle. If he chooses to save mafia, which he will, our KP is meaningless.

If we are lynching into anyone else, well that is what we are figuring out in the QT atm.


If CR saves ANYONE his win con changes to Wins-With-Town why would he save scum? Explain.

VE: kush seems like town because of his first post. It struck me as coming from a town player and even more so a town kush. The thoughtlessness of claiming VT while at the same time misunderstanding how this set-up works is the carelessness of a town player.

Unless he's mafia, then it's "claiming VT to get a townread and then fuck off for the whole game"

What I'm asking you is why you think that comes specifically from townKush and not mafiaKush. I don't think Kush is a bad player - he's often perceptive and speaks his mind. He's been neither of those things this game, so I'm interested in why you're hard townreading him for his first post.

it's what DP said. Kush wouldn't think so far ahead to make that post as mafia.
Grackaroni
Profile Joined July 2011
United States9846 Posts
September 24 2014 16:33 GMT
#654
On September 25 2014 01:31 VisceraEyes wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 25 2014 01:30 Grackaroni wrote:
On September 25 2014 01:27 VisceraEyes wrote:
On September 25 2014 01:24 Promethelax wrote:
On September 25 2014 01:21 VayneAuthority wrote:
On September 25 2014 01:20 Promethelax wrote:
On September 25 2014 01:16 VayneAuthority wrote:
prom I received mod confirmation on how his role works -_- what is there to not understand? its in the thread read host's filter.


And you kept pushing him after that. Or at least that was what I saw when I was reading the thread. Am I wrong? Do you no longer believe him to be the best lynch?

Damdred: you made posts and they were meaningless. Everyone posted before me but I did not find what you posted useful or interesting. Feel free to contribute now and be memorable


the mod post gave even greater incentive to lynch him considering what CR posted before he left for what seems like the entire cycle. If he chooses to save mafia, which he will, our KP is meaningless.

If we are lynching into anyone else, well that is what we are figuring out in the QT atm.


If CR saves ANYONE his win con changes to Wins-With-Town why would he save scum? Explain.

VE: kush seems like town because of his first post. It struck me as coming from a town player and even more so a town kush. The thoughtlessness of claiming VT while at the same time misunderstanding how this set-up works is the carelessness of a town player.

Unless he's mafia, then it's "claiming VT to get a townread and then fuck off for the whole game"

What I'm asking you is why you think that comes specifically from townKush and not mafiaKush. I don't think Kush is a bad player - he's often perceptive and speaks his mind. He's been neither of those things this game, so I'm interested in why you're hard townreading him for his first post.

it's what DP said. Kush wouldn't think so far ahead to make that post as mafia.

It requires no thought - literally no thought at all - to say "Oy I'm a VT wtf is this QT" as mafia. There's no fore-thought necessary.

Anyway, I don't care because I'd rather lynch Hapa. I'm just saying townreading Kush for that is ludicrous.

For Kush i think that's a lot of thought. He literally had no clue what was going on with the setup. he got in my qt, asked me if we were mafia. Then came in thread and said since when do vts get qts
Grackaroni
Profile Joined July 2011
United States9846 Posts
September 24 2014 16:36 GMT
#658
Prom what's your thoughts for Damdred since you made your list.
Grackaroni
Profile Joined July 2011
United States9846 Posts
September 24 2014 16:38 GMT
#661
I'm starting to think more and more that Vayne is intentionally misunderstanding CR's role.
Grackaroni
Profile Joined July 2011
United States9846 Posts
September 24 2014 16:39 GMT
#663
It's been spelled out to him 5 times and clarified by the host
Grackaroni
Profile Joined July 2011
United States9846 Posts
September 24 2014 16:39 GMT
#664
On September 25 2014 01:39 Promethelax wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 25 2014 01:36 Grackaroni wrote:
Prom what's your thoughts for Damdred since you made your list.


Would take Dam as town. He was unhappy I hadn't noticed him which is good. Scum generally don't want people to pay attention to them and his post complaining that I hadn't noticed him is quite townie.

I think it's pretty ballsy of him to go after DP
Grackaroni
Profile Joined July 2011
United States9846 Posts
September 24 2014 16:44 GMT
#667
On September 25 2014 01:42 Promethelax wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 25 2014 01:39 Grackaroni wrote:
On September 25 2014 01:39 Promethelax wrote:
On September 25 2014 01:36 Grackaroni wrote:
Prom what's your thoughts for Damdred since you made your list.


Would take Dam as town. He was unhappy I hadn't noticed him which is good. Scum generally don't want people to pay attention to them and his post complaining that I hadn't noticed him is quite townie.

I think it's pretty ballsy of him to go after DP


So you think DP is town?

I'm flipping back and forth a lot on DP in my head.

I think that scum damdred would not push town DP at this state in the game.
Grackaroni
Profile Joined July 2011
United States9846 Posts
September 25 2014 02:00 GMT
#871
On September 25 2014 10:00 VayneAuthority wrote:
so anytime people want to get serious about lynching oats I think we are ready to go down that road

##unvote

##vote: oatsmaster

You must have a pretty strong read to want to vote Oats over CR. Why Oats?
Grackaroni
Profile Joined July 2011
United States9846 Posts
September 25 2014 02:05 GMT
#872
Geript I think Hapa has put way too much effort into this game to really consider him mafia right now. He had some good points on VE's confidence that even VE agreed with.
Grackaroni
Profile Joined July 2011
United States9846 Posts
September 25 2014 02:12 GMT
#874
On September 25 2014 11:09 Oatsmaster wrote:
Prome calling me town is really weird.
So is hapa.
I have done pretty much nothing.

Geript calling me scum is bad.
His reasons are bad.
Show nested quote +
On September 25 2014 09:04 geript wrote:
On September 25 2014 08:52 Hapahauli wrote:
Um... I just explained it?

Also, how did I pass on Oats/Damdred? I find Damdred null. I find Oats town for reasons that I mentioned. I don't think it gets much clearer.

And the reasons you've townread Oats are fucking ridiculous. You can't say he's particularly out there. I don't have a townread on him and I have a rather good track record of reading him correctly. He hasn't been particularly in your face and, while he is to some extent doing his own thing (which is semi-towny for him), he's not particularly cared about any of his pushes (which is far more of his scum play). So yah, giving Oats a free pass is very odd.

I mean, I have like one fucking push dude. I have not posted anything following that push.
This read is just really lazy.

My scum play is more about agreeing with the best lynch or calling my scumbuddy 100% town. Im not doing that at all this game.

Yeah ok prome might just be scum but we lynch geript first.

vayne's vote on me is also bad. He votes like we have an ongoing vendetta but he seemed mroe interested in C earlier
##vote Geript

I've given less reasons than anyone for voting you. How does that make you feel about me?
Grackaroni
Profile Joined July 2011
United States9846 Posts
September 25 2014 02:23 GMT
#879
On September 24 2014 18:43 Oatsmaster wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 24 2014 17:46 DarthPunk wrote:
That is literally the worst case I have ever seen oats make.

Possibly.
Doesnt mean its wrong.

I noticed that you totally tiptoed around your hapa read, why?

Also,
why is hapa's case bad but then you agree with one of his points?

On September 24 2014 22:06 Oatsmaster wrote:
Hey those cases were good ok, im insulted.

Why are they bad specifically?
I redid hapa's case on geript and then made some points about your chainsaw and misunderstanding of a joke.
Which is clearly a scumtell.
TELL ME HOW IS TAKING A JOKE TOO SERIOUSLY NOT A SCUMTELL???

To be clear did you like the cases you wrote on Geript/DP? The first quote isn't something I'd expect to see from your town play. Normally when someone disagrees with your rather unique reasoning you get really loud and in your face.
Grackaroni
Profile Joined July 2011
United States9846 Posts
September 25 2014 04:11 GMT
#915
On September 25 2014 13:11 Hapahauli wrote:
The cost? What?

He's saying that we'll have less information to work with if we flip VE and he's town.
Grackaroni
Profile Joined July 2011
United States9846 Posts
September 25 2014 04:16 GMT
#918
I would actually be willing to lynch VE despite what I said at the start of the day. I'm not happy though that Oats wouldn't make an effort to talk to me.
Grackaroni
Profile Joined July 2011
United States9846 Posts
September 25 2014 16:06 GMT
#1044
On September 26 2014 01:00 kushm4sta wrote:
halp i only have like 5 to 10 min to spend on this game right now and then not again until after eod. i dont know who to vote

Read Oats filter fast and tell me what you think
Grackaroni
Profile Joined July 2011
United States9846 Posts
September 25 2014 16:46 GMT
#1050
On September 26 2014 01:26 Damdred wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 26 2014 01:06 Grackaroni wrote:
On September 26 2014 01:00 kushm4sta wrote:
halp i only have like 5 to 10 min to spend on this game right now and then not again until after eod. i dont know who to vote

Read Oats filter fast and tell me what you think


What do you think grack

I think I still want to lynch Oats
Grackaroni
Profile Joined July 2011
United States9846 Posts
September 25 2014 17:39 GMT
#1053
On September 26 2014 02:28 Oatsmaster wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 26 2014 01:46 Grackaroni wrote:
On September 26 2014 01:26 Damdred wrote:
On September 26 2014 01:06 Grackaroni wrote:
On September 26 2014 01:00 kushm4sta wrote:
halp i only have like 5 to 10 min to spend on this game right now and then not again until after eod. i dont know who to vote

Read Oats filter fast and tell me what you think


What do you think grack

I think I still want to lynch Oats

Dude I have seen absolutely NOTHING on why I'm supposed to be scum. If you can't even make anything up, you can't fucking say you want to lynch me.
It's incredibly irresponsible as town and downright lazy as scum.
Fuck the way you played this game. You can play way better than this.

How confident are in your reads?. First you made a push on Geript//DP and DP said it was the worst case you had ever written and you said "possibly". Then you got nervous about pushing DP because Damdred agreed with you, but you aren't even scum reading Damdred?

Why is Geript scum exactly? Because he didn't talk about CR at the start of the game? He's been talking non-stop since then. Because he's flip-flopping on Hapa? A lot of people seem to be flip flopping on Hapa.

I haven't actually looked at Prom at all so I'll look into that.
Grackaroni
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September 25 2014 17:50 GMT
#1057
Templar Kush voted VA not VE
Grackaroni
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September 25 2014 18:00 GMT
#1063
On September 26 2014 02:51 geript wrote:
Grack, talk to me about where you're at right now.

Yeah I'm really lost.

I'm waiting for Oatsmaster to talk to me.

I'm paranoid about Kush because he's super inactive and from the recent games that I've loosely followed he's actually been involved as town and I'm not seeing any of that.

I still think Hapa is town and that his case on VE is solid; at least solid enough that VE agrees with it and is suspicious of people town reading him. So that's got to be a good case lol.

I know DP claimed that he can't play active scum when I last played with him but I'm not completely sold on him. VA's play has been atrocious but I'm not sure if that makes him scum.

Prom/Yamato I think Yamato is town. Prom I'm reading now. First post was actually pretty bad.

Geript/mm1 I haven't noticed MM1. You're too active to be scum imo
Grackaroni
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September 25 2014 18:03 GMT
#1064
Honestly when VA's playing atrociously it generally means that he isn't scum. Normally when he is scum he cares more about contributing and making his filter look good.
Grackaroni
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September 25 2014 18:19 GMT
#1069
Whoa guys we really have to consolidate. We have less than 4 hours until deadline and we need 8 people for a majority.
Grackaroni
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September 25 2014 18:20 GMT
#1070
Prom you want to weigh in at all on VE? I think he's probably the most realistic lynch at this point.
Grackaroni
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September 25 2014 18:23 GMT
#1076
Still deciding between VE and Oats. I can't read Oats properly if he won't talk to me.
Grackaroni
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September 25 2014 20:14 GMT
#1122
##Unvote: Oatsmaster
##Vote: VisceraEyes
Grackaroni
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September 25 2014 21:28 GMT
#1157
Any final reads?
Grackaroni
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September 25 2014 21:30 GMT
#1159
It's more of just a case of Hapa being the only one that wrote a case today and most of us agreeing with it.
Grackaroni
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September 25 2014 21:39 GMT
#1169
On September 26 2014 06:38 DarthPunk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 26 2014 06:30 Grackaroni wrote:
It's more of just a case of Hapa being the only one that wrote a case today and most of us agreeing with it.


Wasn't the case like complete basedd on meta and I found a game that didn;t comply with that meta. What IS hapa's case exactly?

Although VE, voting for CR after I negotiated with him is like the most WHAT THE FUCK?!?! thing ever.

He said your contradictory VE game was like 20 games ago
Grackaroni
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September 25 2014 21:44 GMT
#1178
On September 26 2014 06:43 DarthPunk wrote:
Well I am pretty sure VE is town still. Do we have enough people for shenanigans? Would we even have enough people to switch to abuse or mystery meat or damdred or grack or somebody like that who is useless?

Not the best way to sway votes by alienating 1/4 of the thread
Grackaroni
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September 25 2014 21:47 GMT
#1186
On September 26 2014 06:46 DarthPunk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 26 2014 06:44 Grackaroni wrote:
On September 26 2014 06:43 DarthPunk wrote:
Well I am pretty sure VE is town still. Do we have enough people for shenanigans? Would we even have enough people to switch to abuse or mystery meat or damdred or grack or somebody like that who is useless?

Not the best way to sway votes by alienating 1/4 of the thread


I love you all. Please vote for yourselves.


On September 26 2014 06:46 Damdred wrote:
I would switch to mm or useless dp

Case in point
Grackaroni
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September 25 2014 21:50 GMT
#1199
Stick with the VE lynch
Grackaroni
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September 25 2014 21:50 GMT
#1201
That's what all the cool people are doing
Grackaroni
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September 25 2014 21:58 GMT
#1210
On September 26 2014 06:55 DarthPunk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 26 2014 06:52 yamato77 wrote:
Where are your reads DP?

If VE isn't scum, who actually is? Me?

Bring it. I will destroy you.


I think damdred is scum. I think you are scum. How about that for starters?

Like, People who try and set up lynches based on flips that haven;t happened are very likely to be mafia. I have also hated most of what you have posted.

But hey, feel free to 'destroy' me.

I think damdred is scum. I think you are scum. How about that for starters?

You just voted MM?
Grackaroni
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September 25 2014 22:00 GMT
#1215
no shit half the players here have massive egos
Grackaroni
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September 25 2014 22:09 GMT
#1219
silly DP. that's why you sheep like Grack
Grackaroni
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September 25 2014 22:11 GMT
#1222
CR you are really fucked if you aren't defender that saves tonight lol
Grackaroni
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September 25 2014 22:20 GMT
#1228
On September 26 2014 07:18 Promethelax wrote:
Can you explain why you thought the VE lynch was uncontested? I had to babysit the thread into voting him at the last minute.

Because nobody else was being considered for the lynch. Ve himself threw away his vote on CR and gave up.
Grackaroni
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September 25 2014 22:27 GMT
#1233
On September 26 2014 07:24 Promethelax wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 26 2014 07:20 Grackaroni wrote:
On September 26 2014 07:18 Promethelax wrote:
Can you explain why you thought the VE lynch was uncontested? I had to babysit the thread into voting him at the last minute.

Because nobody else was being considered for the lynch. Ve himself threw away his vote on CR and gave up.


Are you DP?

He wishes. If he was me he wouldn't look like as much of baddie after this lynch
Grackaroni
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September 25 2014 22:29 GMT
#1236
Not like our answers were any different anyway
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September 26 2014 07:57 GMT
#1263
Ok in my defense, I think that me doing jack shit in the context of that day was much more of a townie trait.
On September 26 2014 03:20 Grackaroni wrote:
Prom you want to weigh in at all on VE? I think he's probably the most realistic lynch at this point.

I was well aware that VE was most likely the person that was going to get lynched, if I was mafia I would have made a case on somebody and tried to save VE because he's probably the solo member. Pretty much every time I play scum I get caught for hard defending my scum buddy.
Also Oats I left questions for you. I tried to talk to you before that too and you wouldn't. I wasn't about to hard push you because I'm not confident in my read on you unless you talk to me, but I did think you were likely to be scum from POE.
On September 26 2014 02:39 Grackaroni wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 26 2014 02:28 Oatsmaster wrote:
On September 26 2014 01:46 Grackaroni wrote:
On September 26 2014 01:26 Damdred wrote:
On September 26 2014 01:06 Grackaroni wrote:
On September 26 2014 01:00 kushm4sta wrote:
halp i only have like 5 to 10 min to spend on this game right now and then not again until after eod. i dont know who to vote

Read Oats filter fast and tell me what you think


What do you think grack

I think I still want to lynch Oats

Dude I have seen absolutely NOTHING on why I'm supposed to be scum. If you can't even make anything up, you can't fucking say you want to lynch me.
It's incredibly irresponsible as town and downright lazy as scum.
Fuck the way you played this game. You can play way better than this.

How confident are in your reads?. First you made a push on Geript//DP and DP said it was the worst case you had ever written and you said "possibly". Then you got nervous about pushing DP because Damdred agreed with you, but you aren't even scum reading Damdred?

Why is Geript scum exactly? Because he didn't talk about CR at the start of the game? He's been talking non-stop since then. Because he's flip-flopping on Hapa? A lot of people seem to be flip flopping on Hapa.

I haven't actually looked at Prom at all so I'll look into that.

I'd still like to know why you are scum reading Geript. all the reasons you've given have just been what Hapa said at the start of the game and theres no way a townie is still holding on to those reasons for a scum read right now.
Grackaroni
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September 26 2014 16:09 GMT
#1280
I wouldn't take it personally. Vets also come out looking more skilled than new players because they've played so many games with each other that they're much more familiar with a particular player's town/scum play.
Grackaroni
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September 26 2014 16:10 GMT
#1281
Scum hapa would be 10x harder for a new player to catch because a new player hasn't seen what town hapa looks like.
Grackaroni
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September 26 2014 21:35 GMT
#1285
slow game
Grackaroni
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September 26 2014 21:36 GMT
#1286
I bet we have to lynch CR tomorrow.
Grackaroni
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September 26 2014 21:45 GMT
#1288
setup seems really rough for mafia if CR is the pro-town 3rd party
Grackaroni
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September 26 2014 22:02 GMT
#1294
mafia held their shot or Oats forgot he had to send in night actions. All it does is fuck over CR if he's the defender lol
Grackaroni
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September 26 2014 22:03 GMT
#1295
##Vote: CR
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September 26 2014 22:05 GMT
#1298
Oh i guess veteran is a possibility too then.
Grackaroni
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September 26 2014 22:35 GMT
#1307
How does game theory say to lynch outside CR exactly?
Grackaroni
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September 26 2014 22:37 GMT
#1309
If we lynch CR we either kill a 3rd party, which tells us that there is a 2 mafia group left which I'm pretty sure would leave town in a position where town can't lose

Or we lynch CR and he flips mafia and we get a mafia kill
Grackaroni
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September 26 2014 23:02 GMT
#1316
Actually I reconsidered. If CR is just transparent about his role and he's 3p he has more incentive to work with town anyway because town is winning. CR's role can be 100% confirmed tomorrow night if he's poisoner/arsonist and coordinates with town and we can literally see if he's fucking us over or not. If he's defender that's good for town and if he's mafia pretending to be defender mafia can't kill without exposing him.
Grackaroni
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September 26 2014 23:04 GMT
#1318
there's no pro-town CR scenario where CR visits Prom.
Grackaroni
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September 26 2014 23:09 GMT
#1321
VA you have kp? DP said you claimed a role and Geript is tracker and hapa was cop
Grackaroni
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September 26 2014 23:12 GMT
#1324
Ok. CR is probably mafia because like I said earlier if he's arsonist/poisoner it's in his best interest to not fuck over town because town is winning and Prom is obviously town. Final mafia really likely to be Kushm4sta.
Grackaroni
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September 26 2014 23:28 GMT
#1332
On September 27 2014 08:12 Grackaroni wrote:
Ok. CR is probably mafia because like I said earlier if he's arsonist/poisoner it's in his best interest to not fuck over town because town is winning and Prom is obviously town. Final mafia really likely to be Kushm4sta.

This sounds genuine and pretty much tells us that Damdred/MM1/Abuse are not CR's scum partner.
Grackaroni
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September 26 2014 23:29 GMT
#1334
On September 27 2014 08:12 Chairman Ray wrote:
We were like so close to killing you too geript. I really wanted to kill you, but my scum partner was too stubborn about killing prom. If it were up to me, we would be in a decent spot.

Anyways, gg, was fun having a fakeclaim game


This was the quote I meant to quote
Grackaroni
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September 26 2014 23:55 GMT
#1344
lol these vote counts are great
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September 27 2014 00:06 GMT
#1349
On September 27 2014 08:52 MysteryMeat1 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 27 2014 08:29 Grackaroni wrote:
On September 27 2014 08:12 Chairman Ray wrote:
We were like so close to killing you too geript. I really wanted to kill you, but my scum partner was too stubborn about killing prom. If it were up to me, we would be in a decent spot.

Anyways, gg, was fun having a fakeclaim game


This was the quote I meant to quote



Scum lynches d1/d2 isnt a decent spot...

I assume he felt they would be in a better spot than shooting the veteran
Grackaroni
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September 27 2014 00:07 GMT
#1350
Plus I don't think CR is the type to try to mislead right now. Sometimes he just comes out and confesses that he's mafia and people are so confused they think he's trolling.
Grackaroni
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September 27 2014 00:38 GMT
#1352
You aren't usually supposed to quote the answer when you do that but it is super strange that Vayne didn't want to lynch 3p anymore considering his attitude towards CR all of yesterday.
Grackaroni
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September 27 2014 00:42 GMT
#1354
On September 27 2014 09:40 Chairman Ray wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 27 2014 09:25 Damdred wrote:
On September 27 2014 08:03 VayneAuthority wrote:
no point in lynching CR unless anyone CCs his 3rd party claim, loll wtf are people doing.

VE was mafia's most important player being in the 1 and 1 QT and he got lynched day 1. pretty much worst case scenario for mafia. We just have to start lynching all the other pairs now until we find the double mafia pairing...

day 1 made this game pretty anticlimatic.


va claimed mafia anyone tell the thread why gets 1 free townpass even geript


do I get the prize too if I get it right?

You get 2 angry scum teammates
Grackaroni
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September 27 2014 00:49 GMT
#1357
Yeah actually now that I think about it VE sounded pretty mad at you in thread.
Grackaroni
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September 27 2014 00:52 GMT
#1358
No it wasn't VE. Someone else was extremely pissed off at the way you were playing
Grackaroni
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September 27 2014 00:53 GMT
#1359
brb scumhunting
Grackaroni
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September 27 2014 02:00 GMT
#1367
Im feeling really try-hardy right so I'm going to articulate why I think Oats is the final mafia
On September 24 2014 09:20 Oatsmaster wrote:
So anyway mafia can really really fucking easily claim 3p here and totally get away with it.
What the fuck guys.

grack really should know better.


Right away I think this is a sign of extra information. Every other person in the game just assumed that CR was legitimately a 3rd party because claiming 3rd party as mafia isn't a winning strategy in this setup. If CR gets CC'd he gets lynched and if the real 3rd party dies he gets lynched. Best case scenario the real 3rd party is poisoner/arson and he wants to work with mafia so he starts killing townie people which would inevitably put a target on CR's back.
On September 24 2014 18:43 Oatsmaster wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 24 2014 17:46 DarthPunk wrote:
That is literally the worst case I have ever seen oats make.

Possibly.
Doesnt mean its wrong.

I noticed that you totally tiptoed around your hapa read, why?

Also,
why is hapa's case bad but then you agree with one of his points?

This again is a post that only I would want to pick out. In White Flag I called out Oats for calling himself and his reads bad and pushed him a bunch on that and he was mafia. I have a lot of trouble seeing town Oats respond to something like DP said in such a diplomatic manner. When Oats is town he's really loud and in your face; when oats is scum he acts passively and is really shifty.
On September 25 2014 11:09 Oatsmaster wrote:
Prome calling me town is really weird.
So is hapa.
I have done pretty much nothing.

Geript calling me scum is bad.
His reasons are bad.
Show nested quote +
On September 25 2014 09:04 geript wrote:
On September 25 2014 08:52 Hapahauli wrote:
Um... I just explained it?

Also, how did I pass on Oats/Damdred? I find Damdred null. I find Oats town for reasons that I mentioned. I don't think it gets much clearer.

And the reasons you've townread Oats are fucking ridiculous. You can't say he's particularly out there. I don't have a townread on him and I have a rather good track record of reading him correctly. He hasn't been particularly in your face and, while he is to some extent doing his own thing (which is semi-towny for him), he's not particularly cared about any of his pushes (which is far more of his scum play). So yah, giving Oats a free pass is very odd.

I mean, I have like one fucking push dude. I have not posted anything following that push.
This read is just really lazy.

My scum play is more about agreeing with the best lynch or calling my scumbuddy 100% town. Im not doing that at all this game.

Yeah ok prome might just be scum but we lynch geript first.

vayne's vote on me is also bad. He votes like we have an ongoing vendetta but he seemed mroe interested in C earlier
##vote Geript

This is pretty much exactly what he did this game. Oats' first case was on Geript and he literally just rehashed everything Hapa said at the start of the game. For some reason he stuck on to that early read for an extremely long time, and it just doesn't make sense considering the fact that Hapa's case was from when Geript had made 6 posts in the thread and Geript's play had changed significantly since then. Static scum reads that don't evolve with the thread are a big scum tell in my opinion. I also agree with what Geript said inside the quote, Oat's isn't aggressively pushing his reads in the way I would expect from him as town. He just posts some reads and disappears.
On September 26 2014 00:15 Oatsmaster wrote:
What do you mean "Like what"?

Im saying you might be buddying me because I didnt feel like I explained my scumread on DP well enough.

Anyway as I said, not interested in lynching you today.

Who Im interested in lynching.
PROMETHELAX.
His first content post is so bad.
He waffles around geript, posts about some not very relevent posts, then gives a bunch of reads with no reasoning and never attempts to make any effort, other than bitching to VE to give him reads, to get info to expand his scumreads. all his scumreads are "they havent done anything".
super weak.
Then he goes onto Vayne, none of the points he brings up is good.
His main point is that town Vayne would read the OP. Totally not a point at all. Why would scumVayne purposely push a case based on bad info? Literally it makes no sense to not check how the role works as scum because you dont want to get caught like that. Bad bad bad.
Continuing, he doesnt post about the biggest issue in the thread, the Hapa/VE stuff. Its huge. He doesnt care.
Showing that his mindset is off and isnt aware of the normal thread atmosphere cause hes scum.


OK.
##vote Promethelax

Hes gonna come back and post a wall of text but dont get suckered. Stay the course and LYNCH HIM.
Majority lynch.
no lynch is the absolute worst thing that can happen.

Oats was one of the only people to really try to get an alternate case to Hapa's out there. (DP tried to make some last minute shenanigans.) This isn't really the kind of case I would expect to see from town Oats but maybe his play has changed a lot since I last saw it. Oats didn't mention the VE/Hapa stuff at all besides to say that VE seemed reasonable. If Oats was town reading VE and thought that the Hapa/VE stuff was huge it's really strange that he didn't make any attempt to defend VE at all and barely mentioned it himself.
Grackaroni
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September 27 2014 02:05 GMT
#1368
Kush is probably the 3rd party because he really doesn't give a fuck

VA is the other person I could see being mafia
Grackaroni
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September 27 2014 02:15 GMT
#1369
What DP said actually make VA less likely. He won't get any real benefit out of that claim and it puts him at risk of being CC'd
Grackaroni
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September 27 2014 02:58 GMT
#1371
Dandred had a point though. All of day 1 you said town was being stupid for not lynching CR and then day2 after VEs red flip you started arguing for lynching into pairs
Grackaroni
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September 27 2014 03:14 GMT
#1379
Think we can vote to shorten this day?
Grackaroni
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September 27 2014 21:38 GMT
#1489
Oh cool 20 minutes until flip. The suspense is killing me.
Grackaroni
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September 27 2014 21:46 GMT
#1493
You really wanted to wait another 24 hours for CR's flip?
Grackaroni
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September 27 2014 21:59 GMT
#1498
Yamato can't play scum at all past day1 so I hope it is Yamato
Grackaroni
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September 27 2014 23:40 GMT
#1514
I think Vaynes trying to figure out who wouldn't concede
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September 27 2014 23:42 GMT
#1517
On September 28 2014 08:41 Promethelax wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 28 2014 08:40 Grackaroni wrote:
I think Vaynes trying to figure out who wouldn't concede


Who do you think is mafia. What do you think of yourself and MM1?

I think I'm awesome and the last mafia most likely Oats/DP maaaaybe Kush with a small chance of Yamato.
Grackaroni
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September 27 2014 23:46 GMT
#1520
Realistically I could have contributed more but it seemed like things were going fine and I didn't feel like trying really hard to write out a meta read on Oats for a different lynch day1 when my case would have probably just been ignored anyway.
Grackaroni
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September 27 2014 23:48 GMT
#1521
meh I don't think CR was trying to be misleading. You were one of the people not supportive of the VE lynch and you are one of the people I could see getting mad at CR and making him send the kp to prom instead of Geript.
Grackaroni
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September 27 2014 23:53 GMT
#1523
Yeah I really don't care about that. More of I think CR wanted to get the fact that he wanted to kill Geript off his chest.
Grackaroni
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September 27 2014 23:59 GMT
#1525
you already said you thought CR slipped information so how is that the correct play now?

I think CR was truthful about the Geript statement and I didn't notice that the person that he told his teammates were angry at him was you.
Grackaroni
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September 28 2014 00:07 GMT
#1527
lol ok I think that's fair. I agree I shouldn't take that to the bank. So, now I am going to go ahead and pick and choose and say that I believe this quote from CR was genuine
On September 27 2014 08:12 Chairman Ray wrote:
We were like so close to killing you too geript. I really wanted to kill you, but my scum partner was too stubborn about killing prom. If it were up to me, we would be in a decent spot.

Anyways, gg, was fun having a fakeclaim game


And say that this quote may OR may not be genuine
On September 27 2014 08:47 Chairman Ray wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 27 2014 08:43 DarthPunk wrote:
LOLOLOLOLOLOL.'

##vote Chairman Ray.

P.S: Why the fuck would you claim third party?


This is my 8th game in a row rolling scum. I haven't played town in almost 2 years, and I hate playing scum. I gotta do something to keep things interesting.

My mafia teammates were not very happy with it either.
Grackaroni
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September 28 2014 00:16 GMT
#1529
I lied about everything in Titanic because I just like to troll/fuck with people.
Grackaroni
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September 28 2014 02:20 GMT
#1540
I would respond but I legitimately don't understand any of that
Grackaroni
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September 28 2014 02:25 GMT
#1541
Oh you're misreading my posts. I was saying that I liked Hapa's response to me questioning why wanting to look for the 2 mafia pair was scummy. I wasn't agreeing that my idea to narrow CR/VE out of the lynch pool was scummy.
Grackaroni
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September 28 2014 02:40 GMT
#1544
On September 28 2014 11:30 Oatsmaster wrote:
I dont get geript's case.

Hey grack am I still scum?

Yeah I still think it could be you
Grackaroni
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September 28 2014 20:57 GMT
#1573
I really haven't seen any decent reasoning for me being mafia. Everyone is complaining about me being useless but I think I've been objectively more useful than most players this game. I didn't write a case day1, but I did contribute to VE getting lynched. I suggested to Prom that VE was the reasonable lynch to consolidate on to before Prom started telling people to vote VE and before Hapa came back to get more votes on VE. If it looked like someone I didn't want to be lynched was going to be lynched and I had been needed to help move the lynch I would have done it. Sure I posted less than DP, and all DP did day1 was try to make a last minute switch off of mafia and scumread hapa. I posted less than Geript and Geript was apprehensive about consolidating on to VE because he wanted to look for the 2 mafia pair.

Basically I'm content with what I've done this game and the amount of effort I've put in. If people want to call me scummy without good reasoning or if the DP/Geript/Yamato/Prom group wants to circle jerk each other and call me useless so be it.
Grackaroni
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September 28 2014 20:59 GMT
#1574
On September 24 2014 13:01 Grackaroni wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 24 2014 12:53 DarthPunk wrote:
On September 24 2014 10:40 Grackaroni wrote:
I was actually leaning more townie on Hapa. I liked his explanation for voting me.


What did hapa say that makes you think voting for you was townie?

What specifically did you like about it?

Show nested quote +
On September 24 2014 07:59 Hapahauli wrote:
On September 24 2014 07:53 Grackaroni wrote:
On September 24 2014 07:42 Hapahauli wrote:
##Vote Grakaroni

I am not a fan of how you so offhandedly dismissed VE from the lynch pool.

I can understand disagreeing with me but I don't quite understand why this is scummy? Are you implying that I was trying to protect a scum VE before he even posted?


Nah just throwing my vote around 'cause why not.

What you said makes sense. I disagree, but makes sense.

##Unvote

On September 24 2014 07:53 VayneAuthority wrote:
CR is basically a mafia medic why arent we lynching him again? there hasnt been an easier d1 lynch in ages. im fine with you correctly pointing out grack's weird dismissal of VE but not with your vote.


I'd much rather lynch mafia than a 3rd party. Also, how is he a mafia medic? If defender saves someone, they win with town, apparently regardless of the alignment of the saved person.

I didn't see any reason for me being scummy so I thought Hapa's vote was strange but I vote people like that sometimes too as town just to get the game started faster and start getting info. I think scum would feel more pressured to justify their vote rather than backtrack.

Geript if you had read 2 pages of my filter you would understand why your point is nonsense
Grackaroni
Profile Joined July 2011
United States9846 Posts
September 28 2014 21:24 GMT
#1578
On September 29 2014 06:14 geript wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 29 2014 05:59 Grackaroni wrote:
On September 24 2014 13:01 Grackaroni wrote:
On September 24 2014 12:53 DarthPunk wrote:
On September 24 2014 10:40 Grackaroni wrote:
I was actually leaning more townie on Hapa. I liked his explanation for voting me.


What did hapa say that makes you think voting for you was townie?

What specifically did you like about it?

On September 24 2014 07:59 Hapahauli wrote:
On September 24 2014 07:53 Grackaroni wrote:
On September 24 2014 07:42 Hapahauli wrote:
##Vote Grakaroni

I am not a fan of how you so offhandedly dismissed VE from the lynch pool.

I can understand disagreeing with me but I don't quite understand why this is scummy? Are you implying that I was trying to protect a scum VE before he even posted?


Nah just throwing my vote around 'cause why not.

What you said makes sense. I disagree, but makes sense.

##Unvote

On September 24 2014 07:53 VayneAuthority wrote:
CR is basically a mafia medic why arent we lynching him again? there hasnt been an easier d1 lynch in ages. im fine with you correctly pointing out grack's weird dismissal of VE but not with your vote.


I'd much rather lynch mafia than a 3rd party. Also, how is he a mafia medic? If defender saves someone, they win with town, apparently regardless of the alignment of the saved person.

I didn't see any reason for me being scummy so I thought Hapa's vote was strange but I vote people like that sometimes too as town just to get the game started faster and start getting info. I think scum would feel more pressured to justify their vote rather than backtrack.

Geript if you had read 2 pages of my filter you would understand why your point is nonsense

I did. I read the whole exchange quite thoroughly. I don't think it's nonsense at all. I'm not sure if it's conclusive but it's exceptionally odd.

Its wrong because I never liked Hapa's reasoning for voting for me which really should be 100% clear from my post that I just quoted. I liked Hapa's explanation for why he had voted me, which was that he voted me just because he was trying to stir something up and not because he thought my post was scummy.
Grackaroni
Profile Joined July 2011
United States9846 Posts
September 28 2014 21:27 GMT
#1580
I understand that but I approved of consolidating on VE as a lynch myself with that post before there was a big push to kill VE. It's not my fault that I didn't go on "cheerleading" like Prom did when it was clear I wouldn't have to.
Grackaroni
Profile Joined July 2011
United States9846 Posts
September 28 2014 21:29 GMT
#1582
Yes I do. Hapa gave a different explanation for voting for me when he unvoted me.
Grackaroni
Profile Joined July 2011
United States9846 Posts
September 28 2014 22:09 GMT
#1599
Lol yes let's act like dicks towards the people going through the effort of hosting the game for us
Grackaroni
Profile Joined July 2011
United States9846 Posts
September 28 2014 22:45 GMT
#1605
I think most of us are here waiting
Grackaroni
Profile Joined July 2011
United States9846 Posts
September 28 2014 22:49 GMT
#1609
It would be pretty funny if the night was legitimately extended because people were complaining about the shorter day
Grackaroni
Profile Joined July 2011
United States9846 Posts
September 28 2014 22:57 GMT
#1613
I knew Mm1 was tracker
Grackaroni
Profile Joined July 2011
United States9846 Posts
September 28 2014 23:06 GMT
#1618
Probably Damdreds shot?
Grackaroni
Profile Joined July 2011
United States9846 Posts
September 28 2014 23:12 GMT
#1621
He basically asked Geript who he should kill in thread
Grackaroni
Profile Joined July 2011
United States9846 Posts
September 28 2014 23:17 GMT
#1623
What were the results?
Grackaroni
Profile Joined July 2011
United States9846 Posts
September 28 2014 23:25 GMT
#1627
##Vote: Oatsmaster
Grackaroni
Profile Joined July 2011
United States9846 Posts
September 29 2014 01:36 GMT
#1652
lol
Grackaroni
Profile Joined July 2011
United States9846 Posts
September 29 2014 01:43 GMT
#1655
ugh who knows when Oats is going to wake up
Grackaroni
Profile Joined July 2011
United States9846 Posts
September 29 2014 01:45 GMT
#1657
So what's the deal DP? Were you trying to help mafia or did you just think that VE was town
Grackaroni
Profile Joined July 2011
United States9846 Posts
September 29 2014 02:00 GMT
#1664
Did you kill Kush Damdred?
Grackaroni
Profile Joined July 2011
United States9846 Posts
September 29 2014 02:06 GMT
#1666
I guess it was VA? 4 town PR is definitely too much
Grackaroni
Profile Joined July 2011
United States9846 Posts
September 29 2014 02:26 GMT
#1676
I guess Oats shot Kush then and was going to try to use it for town cred
Grackaroni
Profile Joined July 2011
United States9846 Posts
September 29 2014 02:28 GMT
#1679
well then I'm just confused
Grackaroni
Profile Joined July 2011
United States9846 Posts
September 29 2014 02:30 GMT
#1684
I think I know whats going on here
Grackaroni
Profile Joined July 2011
United States9846 Posts
September 29 2014 02:33 GMT
#1687
nah nvm. I think the setup was just imbalanced
Grackaroni
Profile Joined July 2011
United States9846 Posts
September 29 2014 02:37 GMT
#1690
lol I've got a different theory but it's too insane to explore
Grackaroni
Profile Joined July 2011
United States9846 Posts
September 29 2014 02:40 GMT
#1692
hey I'm content with my play this game. I was on the right track for most of the game. Only Kushm4sta really got in the way and he was truly scummy
Grackaroni
Profile Joined July 2011
United States9846 Posts
September 29 2014 02:44 GMT
#1697
lol that was my insane option
Grackaroni
Profile Joined July 2011
United States9846 Posts
September 29 2014 02:45 GMT
#1698
But I didn't want to suggest that before seeing how Oats reacts
Grackaroni
Profile Joined July 2011
United States9846 Posts
September 29 2014 02:49 GMT
#1702
##Unvote: Oatsmaster
##Vote: Yamato77

I think this is a good vote
Grackaroni
Profile Joined July 2011
United States9846 Posts
September 29 2014 03:07 GMT
#1708
that's actually just a really funny play. Props to Geript
Grackaroni
Profile Joined July 2011
United States9846 Posts
September 29 2014 03:16 GMT
#1711
My case on Yamato:
On September 26 2014 06:01 yamato77 wrote:
In other news, I will find the other two mafia in the night phase, probably.

Activity plummeted after the first day.

That is all.
Grackaroni
Profile Joined July 2011
United States9846 Posts
September 29 2014 03:23 GMT
#1718
Honestly Oats it was a good play. It confirmed a townie and we aren't going to lose. It's pretty much has to be Me/Yamato or Damdred at this point and I doubt it's Damdred just from CR's statements
Grackaroni
Profile Joined July 2011
United States9846 Posts
September 29 2014 03:31 GMT
#1723
On September 29 2014 12:28 yamato77 wrote:
lol it's grack

lololol

On September 29 2014 12:16 Grackaroni wrote:
My case on Yamato:
Show nested quote +
On September 26 2014 06:01 yamato77 wrote:
In other news, I will find the other two mafia in the night phase, probably.

Activity plummeted after the first day.

That is all.

Bow before my case of justice.
Grackaroni
Profile Joined July 2011
United States9846 Posts
September 29 2014 03:40 GMT
#1727
I would have believed you without the claim if you really tried to argue because as scum you would have just assumed the tracker claim was legit and concede.

I mean wasn't the last Yamato post a scum claim? If not Yamato I'd say it's Damdred but I think CR legitimately wanted to kill Geript
Grackaroni
Profile Joined July 2011
United States9846 Posts
September 29 2014 04:12 GMT
#1735
Damdred why do you think Yamato couldn't have bussed but Prom could have?
Grackaroni
Profile Joined July 2011
United States9846 Posts
September 29 2014 04:49 GMT
#1745
Whoops VA's play really makes no sense.
Grackaroni
Profile Joined July 2011
United States9846 Posts
September 29 2014 15:43 GMT
#1800
We definitely could have lost that one still
Grackaroni
Profile Joined July 2011
United States9846 Posts
September 29 2014 16:16 GMT
#1802
It was town favored but I think Abuse still could have won after the 2 mafia lynched only needing 3 mislynches VA /me/Yamato
Grackaroni
Profile Joined July 2011
United States9846 Posts
September 29 2014 17:18 GMT
#1808
Slam you're finally unbanned
Grackaroni
Profile Joined July 2011
United States9846 Posts
September 29 2014 19:42 GMT
#1813
haha Hapa was super convinced it was me/Vayne but we're unreadable as town
Grackaroni
Profile Joined July 2011
United States9846 Posts
September 29 2014 19:46 GMT
#1814
like why would I go through all of the effort of yelling lynch VE when it was so obvious VE was going to be the lynch without me having to do anything.
Grackaroni
Profile Joined July 2011
United States9846 Posts
September 29 2014 20:19 GMT
#1816
Lol no he lied though. That was my bad
Grackaroni
Profile Joined July 2011
United States9846 Posts
September 29 2014 21:05 GMT
#1820
Lol BH you're about to enter some ban list drama
Grackaroni
Profile Joined July 2011
United States9846 Posts
September 29 2014 22:05 GMT
#1833
Looks like I missed out on all kinds of drama
Grackaroni
Profile Joined July 2011
United States9846 Posts
September 29 2014 22:08 GMT
#1835
Koshi will be back eventually. It is known.
Grackaroni
Profile Joined July 2011
United States9846 Posts
September 29 2014 23:50 GMT
#1854
hmmmm Chupazi con hijole bamcis
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