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On September 10 2014 17:38 geript wrote:
If people refuse to lynch Sylencia, I want to lynch either Harurh or Damdred. I could be convinced to look at Oats, but if I can't get a lynch off on Syl then those are the main two I'd look at. I'm still hoping Robik was mafia though.
No we are lynching you today.
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We need a majority today. We cannot confirm if robik was the judge or not, so it is best to pretend our judge died and we get a majority on someone.
Preferably geript.
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On September 10 2014 16:01 raynpelikoneet wrote:Show nested quote +On September 10 2014 15:55 raynpelikoneet wrote:Like: Now i am pretty convinced you are town Sloosh. Sylencia is town ritoky is town i am pretty sure yamato is town i'll yolo and say Damdred is town just because of his reaction to me when i called him scum. that leaves me geript, Oats, Haru, LM. At least 2 mafia there (because i am pretty sure robert was town). I am PRETTY sure we just win the game if we just lynch everyone in that pool.  geript calls Haru and Sylencia (rofl) mafia. Oats calls Haru and LM (and you) mafia. LM calls Damdred and you mafia. I have no idea who Haru thinks is mafia. I guess we need to read Haru next. geript which part of this post you do not agree with (excluding my read on you)?
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And don't even think you can get a majority on Sylencia because you are not gonna get it.
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Haru since you are here comments on what i just quoted to geript.
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and for the love of god use deadline votes....
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Haru can you explain the following:
This is what you said at some point during D1:
On September 05 2014 21:10 HaruRH wrote:
Robik still haven't convinced me he is town yet. I am waiting.
This is what you said later on:
On September 09 2014 12:28 HaruRH wrote:
robik is town because i know for sure scumrobik will not go for the grail. He will just give excuses and lurk like mad.
Now the problem is the first post is made when the game has been on for some time.
Robert had gone for the grail all the time the game has been on, from the beginning of the game.
How does this make sense for you to base your read on Robert like this? I see a contradiction which you should explain.
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SloOsh (1) - LoneMeow, Damdred
HaruHR (0) -
Geript (2) - HaruRH, Sylencia, raynpelikoneet
Damdred (0) - SloOsh
Sylencia (2) - Geript, ritoky
LoneMeow (1) - Oatsmaster
There are 10 players alive. It takes 6 votes to lynch.
Day 2 ends in . Please submit all possible day/night actions to both hosts.
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On September 10 2014 16:49 geript wrote:Show nested quote +On September 09 2014 16:28 Sylencia wrote:LM: Voting for the person I find my personal top scum read especially early on the day is in no way scummy - sloosh is 2nd on my list but I've been saying it since yesterday that I find geript to be the most scummy. If sloosh is worse in other's eyes and people want him dead, naturally I'm willing to switch. Anyways if you guys are going to vote for me I can very easily claim, since I'd rather take the bullet tonight than have a better role die, and if I do survive it's still a win for town considering it's still more or less a confirmed townie. In addition, because of the fact the necromancer only knowing of the role of someone still alive, it'd be impossible to fake claim the role which was discovered because that person is still alive and able to CC.Rayn: will respond to you when i get home, since I'm leaving work now Show nested quote +On September 09 2014 17:43 Sylencia wrote:
Plz geript I know you want to soup but I'm still on the train, so you'll have to wait. Unfortunately for you though I've been sitting on this train for an hour know and it's not looking like I'm getting home any time soon =(! Show nested quote +On September 09 2014 20:19 Sylencia wrote:Anyways: Claim or die geript?On September 09 2014 18:34 geript wrote:
There's no role he could have that he'd consider claiming period. Like there's no point.
Acolyte isn't a role you ever claim.
Nah the brilliant part is that I didn't read who was the Inquisitor until now (to prevent myself from giving away information consciously or unconsciously) so that if the time came I would be able to role claim safely. On that note, our inquisitor is still alive and well. Alive or dead, I don't care but to me it's up to the scum team to decide what happens during the night. What goes down N2 is probably the most telling thing in terms of the scum that are left. "Why would you not read it when you first got it, other than the fact you'd be doing this to role claim later because that seems like horrible play?" - Keeps me from being too biased given my knowledge of the inquisitor (too sheepy etc) - Mathematically only a 1/12 chance of the inquisitor being lynched. Given that town players also act less scummy in general, that chance of being lynched decreases. This helps me justify not looking at it. - If they died N1, I'd check. Given we know the martyr died, there was no need. I was going to hold on to whether or not I'd read it for another 12 hours because the final 24 hours of the day are always more important but yeah, since I have 3-4 votes on me my hand was kind of forced. In the first post, he wants to take a bullet to save a better role. The problem is that by claiming not only does he not help protect any better role, he actually makes it FAR FAR easier to find said better role. Then look at the next couple of posts. Does Sylencia think I'm town whatsoever? No. He's voting me; he's pushing me, etc. If he thinks I'm mafia, why wouldn't he just tell me to go fuck myself? If I'm mafia, I have literally 0 recourse toward making good on my threat of "claim or die." But despite the fact that he's sure I'm mafia, when presented with claim or die from his biggest scumread, he CHOOSES to acquiesce and claim. Why? So I could soup him? It's not like I could Judge him if I'm mafia. It's not like I could Grandier him if I'm mafia. It's not like I could Crusader him if I'm mafia. What threat am I posing to him if he's town and is sure I'm mafia? If he's town, what is the value that he actually sees in claiming? Why does he think that claiming Acolyte is an instant get out of jail free card? It's not a role you can ever afford to confirm (in 99% of cases obviously). Let's also look at what Mafia can do. They can have a pretty good guess as to who the Inquisitor on D2 is if they're reasonably intelligent. That can lead back to the Acolyte as well (it goes both ways). Like if I were mafia, I would be in such a huge advantage. The mafia aren't players who've played this setup before. Also, if you read the rules, you'd know that claiming Martyr was a fucking terrible play.
1) Have you even considered anything I've said in the past day or are you still trying to make up reasons as to why claiming suddenly leaves people vulnerable. My entire pre-claim filter is completely neutral of any bias since I had no idea who was Inq. How does that end up leaving them more exposed. Or are you trying to suggest playing like a VT somehow leaves another role exposed?
2) Rayn's push on me had a much bigger effect on me wanting to claim, he disappeared and you were still posting though.
2/3) If it was anytime beyond N1 I would naturally agree that there's no real way to confirm but we had 11/13 alive, 1 confirmed (dead) martyr, and 1 unknown. You've tried to show you thought Koshi was town, but nothing even remotely suggests he would ever be Acolyte, and yet apparently I have the magical ability to realise what Koshi was and try to claim it for no CC. As rayn says, if no one CCs, it is practically a confirmed town at this point because there is still so much available information.
If I was scum, the only thing I'd be doing is delaying my death by a day since not dying during the night makes it pretty clear I'm scum the next day anyways and with the town activity in D2 it's really not hard to push the lynch onto someone else without claiming.
Basically your entire 'case' on my claim hinges on the fact that I've somehow slipped extra information, which is actually impossible given the circumstances that I played the game.
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Sylencia do not talk about your claim with geript. It does not help.
Help us find mafia.
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On September 10 2014 17:55 raynpelikoneet wrote:Show nested quote +On September 10 2014 16:01 raynpelikoneet wrote:On September 10 2014 15:55 raynpelikoneet wrote:Like: Now i am pretty convinced you are town Sloosh. Sylencia is town ritoky is town i am pretty sure yamato is town i'll yolo and say Damdred is town just because of his reaction to me when i called him scum. that leaves me geript, Oats, Haru, LM. At least 2 mafia there (because i am pretty sure robert was town). I am PRETTY sure we just win the game if we just lynch everyone in that pool. geript calls Haru and Sylencia (rofl) mafia. Oats calls Haru and LM (and you) mafia. LM calls Damdred and you mafia. I have no idea who Haru thinks is mafia. I guess we need to read Haru next. geript which part of this post you do not agree with (excluding my read on you)?
Yamato at this point is fuck if I know. I figure he would've cared more at some point if he were town. Like it's essentially D3 time wise. He's felt towny at points but fuck it I can't tell don't give a fuck town yam from hates his life scum yam.
I don't think Damdred is town. I didn't catch what you read in his reaction. I'll do that when I get up.
Sloosh felt towny at points. Could be wrong. I liked Koshi's read on him too.
Oats can die.
LM is town. Every time I read his filter I thought he was really towny. No clue as to why off the top of my head. Could be a bad read. I will laugh my ass off though post game if all the people I've been hard calling town are mafia and none of my mafia reads are mafia.
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So Syl, have YOU been through Koshi's filter to know if there's any single hint as to him being Acolyte? Who says the key info is even in his filter?
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Also I'd like to point out that with the martyr change, this is probably Lylo so mafia would 100% claim to get info for a big soup or stay alive.
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it is not lylo. you are not paying any attention to the game.
i just ran the numbers and hour or so ago...
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On September 10 2014 18:30 geript wrote:
So Syl, have YOU been through Koshi's filter to know if there's any single hint as to him being Acolyte? Who says the key info is even in his filter?
This is interesting.
Sylencia answer please.
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On September 10 2014 18:33 raynpelikoneet wrote:
it is not lylo. you are not paying any attention to the game.
i just ran the numbers and hour or so ago...
7-3 with a mislynch and soup 3. Quite easy. Even a soup for 2 is gg.
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On September 10 2014 18:34 geript wrote:Show nested quote +On September 10 2014 18:33 raynpelikoneet wrote:
it is not lylo. you are not paying any attention to the game.
i just ran the numbers and hour or so ago... 7-3 with a mislynch and soup 3. Quite easy. Even a soup for 2 is gg.
you can't soup 3.
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On September 10 2014 18:30 geript wrote:
So Syl, have YOU been through Koshi's filter to know if there's any single hint as to him being Acolyte? Who says the key info is even in his filter?
No I haven't looked through his filter for Acolyte hints, I looked at his filter to see if he if I thought he was scum like 2 days ago. And if it's not in his filter you're suggesting there are hints in other peoples' filters? Sorry, but it's not a 2 way street with the acolyte.
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On September 03 2014 18:37 Palmar wrote:Show nested quote +On September 03 2014 13:17 gobbledydook wrote:On September 03 2014 11:12 gobbledydook wrote:
Wait
Does that mean that if the witches use Witch Soup to post a list of all the combinations of player - role matches, they instantly win? Or does it mean, you may match any number of players to roles instead of the nightkill, but you may not match a player to more than one role per night? Well not sure if I understand your question, but the soup instantly fails when they guess wrong. So if the witches wanted to be clever and do something Palmar - Acolyte Palmar - Priest they instantly fail if "Acolyte" is wrong, and the soup drinking ends, even if Palmar is priest, nothing happens to them. Another example: Artanis the witch wants to kill townies, marv is Judge, Sandroba is Crusader and Palmar is Priest, and syllogism is Grandier. Witches submit: marv - Judge Sandroba - Crusader Palmar - Acolyte syllogism - Grandier. This will result in: Marv - dies (unblockable soup kill) Sandroba - dies (unblockable soup kill) Palmar - survives syllogism - survives Day post will read: marv has been killed sandroba has been killed Artanis the witch tried to kill Palmar as the Acolyte. I want to make sure that people also understand the witches can stop drinking the soup at any time, as in, they can submit as many target as they like. In the example above they could've submitted: marv - Judge Sandroba Crusader And in that case the results will be: Marv - dies (unblockable soup kill) Sandroba - dies (unblockable soup kill) and day post will read: marv has been killed sandroba has been killed Notice how as they didn't get any guesses wrong, nothing is revealed.
This seems to be to the contrary.
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