|
On September 10 2014 16:20 geript wrote:
No good reason. It's play it's feel. The games I've played or read where Koshi was mafia he always felt a little off. Do you really think he townreads me as mafia and votes to get me the grail? I'm like a super easy person to get a mislynch on. He's a good player and can easily get the grail himself. He looked like he was actually happy having fun and being productive. I don't generally see those things from Koshi when he's mafia.
Koshi didn't do anything on D1 except for his case on gobbly.
Koshi wanted a lynch and then didn't vote to lynch anyone..
Show me some posts where he looked happy and productive (besides gobbly case).
|
On September 10 2014 16:21 geript wrote:Show nested quote +On September 10 2014 16:20 raynpelikoneet wrote:
For the record even if Koshi WAS the Acolyte mafia would not know that. What other role do you claim as mafia then?
cop or Rov.
|
|
|
EBWOP: Rov = Oracle.
geript tell me why claiming Acolyte is better than claiming the cop on D2?
|
On September 04 2014 08:24 Koshi wrote:Show nested quote +On September 04 2014 08:15 geript wrote:
BTW, I'm pretty happy lynching gobblygook whenever his turn comes around. Koshi on a scale of 1 to Rock Hard, how big is your hardon for lynching gobblygook and why. my penis only goes from a scale of 10 to Rock Hard.
On September 05 2014 02:18 Koshi wrote:Show nested quote +On September 05 2014 02:13 Oatsmaster wrote:On September 05 2014 01:54 Koshi wrote:
It's the new and improved me.
Mass posting is terrible for me because I get insanely caught within the thread. I need to be able to take a step back and look at the thread without bias.
It's much better for my reads.
I just need people to do the legwork for me. The tone this whole game is either super serious or fake happy. Lynch this shit man. Koshi, show us a town game where you played the same way. Koshi: "It is the new me" Oats: "Show me where you did it before" ok Oats. ok.
On September 05 2014 04:23 Koshi wrote:Show nested quote +On September 05 2014 03:14 geript wrote:On September 04 2014 20:39 Koshi wrote:
I think I am ok with the following people. Just based on their posts.
•Oatsmaster only because ritoky
•gobbledydook
•IAmRobik
•geript
•slOosh
•ritoky I've been thinking about this, but can you explain the Oats, Gobbly and Robik reads. Back then the bottom 4 seemed to be the driving force behind the thread progression. The ritoky syncing with Oats made me think Oats was a bad lynch as well.
On September 05 2014 04:56 Koshi wrote:Show nested quote +On September 05 2014 04:50 LoneMeow wrote:On September 05 2014 04:46 Koshi wrote:On September 05 2014 04:41 LoneMeow wrote:On September 04 2014 22:00 gobbledydook wrote:On September 04 2014 21:39 Koshi wrote:
gobbledydook, what is your read on yamato? He's scum. He had better have a good reason to explain his posting or I'm voting the shit out of him. As I said he has the time to come into the thread to say koshi is scum without any explanation, but doesn't actually bother to do anything constructive. One can only presume he's wasting our time. Please go check Guilty Mini Mafia - he was town. Would you agree that his play here looks somewhat similar to his early play in that? Does that affect your read on him? How does his play look the same? Yamato made 2 posts saying I am scum in 24 hours. Similar in the sense that he doesn't really give much real reasoning in that either. It's a little more verbose than this game, I'll admit that, but at least for me it gives enough doubt that I can not call him scum for the play he's displayed so far. Calling him scum is ridiculous. Calling him town is ridiculous. But defending him is completely ridiculous which I feel you are doing here. Are you?
Look at how he approached things. The penis joke is easy to make no problem. There's a slight ascerbic wit that I see here that is one touch playful and one touch serious. It's nothing quite specific. Plus he's actually looking at things from a variety of perspectives.
|
On September 05 2014 20:43 Koshi wrote:
LM/HaruRH/gobble
for endgame cred.
Also for the record, this is a bit silly, but I think when he's mafia he generally posts 2-3 lists in red whereas as town he tends to post fewer. This might not actually be correct, but I remember that thinking that about him for some reason when I read filter dove him after some other random previous game.
|
On September 10 2014 16:23 raynpelikoneet wrote:
EBWOP: Rov = Oracle.
geript tell me why claiming Acolyte is better than claiming the cop on D2?
There's not. You should never claim acolyte in this setup unless you are counterclaiming a cop.
|
The last post you quoted we read the exact opposite way.
Other posts are just lol.
can you answer my other questions to you?
|
On September 10 2014 16:31 geript wrote:Show nested quote +On September 10 2014 16:23 raynpelikoneet wrote:
EBWOP: Rov = Oracle.
geript tell me why claiming Acolyte is better than claiming the cop on D2? There's not. You should never claim acolyte in this setup unless you are counterclaiming a cop.
so you do not think the correct play for mafia!Sylencia is to fakeclaim Acolyte and you say he is scum because he fakeclaimed Acolyte?!?!?
what the fuck?
|
On September 09 2014 16:28 Sylencia wrote:LM: Voting for the person I find my personal top scum read especially early on the day is in no way scummy - sloosh is 2nd on my list but I've been saying it since yesterday that I find geript to be the most scummy. If sloosh is worse in other's eyes and people want him dead, naturally I'm willing to switch. Anyways if you guys are going to vote for me I can very easily claim, since I'd rather take the bullet tonight than have a better role die, and if I do survive it's still a win for town considering it's still more or less a confirmed townie. In addition, because of the fact the necromancer only knowing of the role of someone still alive, it'd be impossible to fake claim the role which was discovered because that person is still alive and able to CC.Rayn: will respond to you when i get home, since I'm leaving work now 
On September 09 2014 17:43 Sylencia wrote:
Plz geript I know you want to soup but I'm still on the train, so you'll have to wait. Unfortunately for you though I've been sitting on this train for an hour know and it's not looking like I'm getting home any time soon =(!
On September 09 2014 20:19 Sylencia wrote:Anyways: Claim or die geript?Show nested quote +On September 09 2014 18:34 geript wrote:
There's no role he could have that he'd consider claiming period. Like there's no point.
Acolyte isn't a role you ever claim.
Nah the brilliant part is that I didn't read who was the Inquisitor until now (to prevent myself from giving away information consciously or unconsciously) so that if the time came I would be able to role claim safely. On that note, our inquisitor is still alive and well. Alive or dead, I don't care but to me it's up to the scum team to decide what happens during the night. What goes down N2 is probably the most telling thing in terms of the scum that are left. "Why would you not read it when you first got it, other than the fact you'd be doing this to role claim later because that seems like horrible play?" - Keeps me from being too biased given my knowledge of the inquisitor (too sheepy etc) - Mathematically only a 1/12 chance of the inquisitor being lynched. Given that town players also act less scummy in general, that chance of being lynched decreases. This helps me justify not looking at it. - If they died N1, I'd check. Given we know the martyr died, there was no need. I was going to hold on to whether or not I'd read it for another 12 hours because the final 24 hours of the day are always more important but yeah, since I have 3-4 votes on me my hand was kind of forced.
In the first post, he wants to take a bullet to save a better role. The problem is that by claiming not only does he not help protect any better role, he actually makes it FAR FAR easier to find said better role.
Then look at the next couple of posts. Does Sylencia think I'm town whatsoever? No. He's voting me; he's pushing me, etc. If he thinks I'm mafia, why wouldn't he just tell me to go fuck myself? If I'm mafia, I have literally 0 recourse toward making good on my threat of "claim or die." But despite the fact that he's sure I'm mafia, when presented with claim or die from his biggest scumread, he CHOOSES to acquiesce and claim. Why? So I could soup him? It's not like I could Judge him if I'm mafia. It's not like I could Grandier him if I'm mafia. It's not like I could Crusader him if I'm mafia. What threat am I posing to him if he's town and is sure I'm mafia?
If he's town, what is the value that he actually sees in claiming? Why does he think that claiming Acolyte is an instant get out of jail free card? It's not a role you can ever afford to confirm (in 99% of cases obviously).
Let's also look at what Mafia can do. They can have a pretty good guess as to who the Inquisitor on D2 is if they're reasonably intelligent. That can lead back to the Acolyte as well (it goes both ways). Like if I were mafia, I would be in such a huge advantage. The mafia aren't players who've played this setup before.
Also, if you read the rules, you'd know that claiming Martyr was a fucking terrible play.
|
On September 10 2014 16:22 raynpelikoneet wrote:Show nested quote +On September 10 2014 16:21 geript wrote:On September 10 2014 16:20 raynpelikoneet wrote:
For the record even if Koshi WAS the Acolyte mafia would not know that. What other role do you claim as mafia then? cop or Rov.
Cop can be CC'd by 2 people at least 1 of which is, well was, assured to be alive.
|
I think fakeclaiming Acolyte is fine play; it potentially gives you a day or more and in the least gives you a huge advantage in figure out the roles. Acolyte leads to cop; period. Forcing a CC helps solve the puzzle. How he did it is fucking terrible. I dont' think it's ever correct for the Town!Acolyte to claim UNLESS they are counterclaiming a cop claim or another Acolyte claim (the latter depends on if you can push his lynch without claiming). How soup works in this setup makes claiming any role far, far more dangerous than at VS.
By how he did it being terrible I mean, look at the progression of posts.
Put this above the post w/ all the Syl stuff. I ahve like 8 windows open and forget where to copy/paste the shit.
|
Also for the record, this specific setup is far more mafia favored than the VS setup. Sounds odd but the variety of little changes really matter.
|
|
|
how does soup work differently than it does on VS?
|
On September 10 2014 16:53 geript wrote:
Also for the record, this specific setup is far more mafia favored than the VS setup. Sounds odd but the variety of little changes really matter.
i agree the martyr is basically a mafia rolecop which is dumb as fuck.
|
On September 10 2014 17:17 raynpelikoneet wrote:
how does soup work differently than it does on VS?
As I remember it on VS, you could guess any number but any wrong guesses meant nothing went through. Here they process one at a time. So claims -> freebie plus a second guess (or wifom machine).
|
Nah, I'm remembering it wrong from VS.
|
On September 10 2014 17:21 geript wrote:Show nested quote +On September 10 2014 17:17 raynpelikoneet wrote:
how does soup work differently than it does on VS? As I remember it on VS, you could guess any number but any wrong guesses meant nothing went through. Here they process one at a time. So claims -> freebie plus a second guess (or wifom machine).
no, you are incorrect. the soup works just as on VS.
geript you have three possibilities in your next post:
1) You counter claim Sylencia if you are the real acolyte because it's the correct play and then we work from there.
2) You find someone who is scum and let go of Sylencia because you are being ridiculous right now.
3) You continue with this shit and then we lynch you because you are mafia.
Pick one.
|
If people refuse to lynch Sylencia, I want to lynch either Harurh or Damdred. I could be convinced to look at Oats, but if I can't get a lynch off on Syl then those are the main two I'd look at. I'm still hoping Robik was mafia though.
|
|
|
|
|
|
EPT
