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On August 11 2014 10:45 Mages wrote: I can't help but feel I'm at a disadvantage still, people already stating townreads, all I'm seeing is introductory day 1 posting, course where im from this is a lot more than what i'm used to granted, but i will learn your ways. Is it considered a red herring for someone to so blatantly declare that they're town? Don't be afraid to put people in a "townpile" early, just so long as you're comfortable moving them out again if they give you reason to. I'd be suspicious of anyone claiming a hard, solid townread on anyone this early, but people stating early or light townreads on others is pretty common and expected. Me claiming town is pretty much just a tradition - I'd do it as either alignment, so it's not really indicative one way or the other. | ||
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Obviously I'm paraphrasing. But that's the feels I got reading his post. It made my ass twitch. | ||
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That's like, exactly what I expect from mafia at the beginning of a game with players the mafia hasn't played with. And look at it this way - the last time I felt this strongly about it was with Regy that last game, and I was right about him. You should go with me on this. | ||
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On August 12 2014 03:11 Damdred wrote: Any opinons about anything else going on right now VE? I like that people are accusing people. I think the case on MM1 is strong and that there aren't enough people talking about that. | ||
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On August 12 2014 03:18 raynpelikoneet wrote: I don't believe this. Even less when reading you posts where you called me, Palmar, Tom and Robik mafia. Believe it sistah - it's the same kind of feeling. Like, it immediately jumped out at me when it happened, in exactly the same way. Yes, admittedly, I was wrong about Palmar, but only because I was wrong about him being a new player. If that guy had been a new player I guarantee he would have been scum. ![]() | ||
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On August 11 2014 13:25 TheKingOfTheCats wrote: Do you actually have an opinion on the case on MM? On August 11 2014 15:43 TheKingOfTheCats wrote: Kush do you have any thoughts on Haru? His two posts seem consistent enough so far 1v1, what's your suspicion based on? | ||
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On August 12 2014 03:42 onevone wrote: What I mean is, TheKingOfTheCats was clearly following the thread for several hours and keeping up with the events, yet he only posted two questions during that time that seemed decent on the surface yet don't *really* push anything forward... While Onegu just made one brief post and went away. This is a good post. I like 1v1 for town. | ||
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MysteryMeat1, Onegu, KingofCats, batsnacks I feel like the case on MM is the strongest, so that's where my vote is. But I feel like I'm going to have to move it because people are squeamish about lynching him based on his history of being D1 mislynched, so I'm going to look into alternatives. | ||
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It's true that KoC's 2 posts came a few hours apart - that's indisputable. I don't necessarily agree that it means that he was following the thread closely or whatever, but it DOES explain why 1v1 is more interested in KoC than Onegu, which was the answer to my original question. | ||
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On August 12 2014 03:52 Koshi wrote: ##unvote ##vote: VisceraEyes 1v1 is simply terrible town. VE just trew away a townread to follow some lies. Quit being horrible Koshi. I hate resorting to this type of thing, but you're playing like a total fucking jackass and you need to stop. | ||
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I still think MysteryMeat is scum. I don't care what he's said since I caught him, I assume it's all lies and misinformation. He's mafia and you shouldn't listen to anything he says. | ||
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##Unvote ##Vote HaruRH Because says I'm inconsistent. I'll show him how tenacious my vote can be. | ||
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On August 12 2014 23:22 VisceraEyes wrote: Hi guys. Can we lynch one of the hard lurkers now? I'm okay with batsnacks maybe. Or possibly Onegu. Haru just said I'm inconsistent and that can die in a fire. WHICH WAY IS THE WIND BLOWING GUYS?!? In this post, I'm explicitly not silent about batsnacks. | ||
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##Vote: HaruRH | ||
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Yeah I heard you the first time gtfo my thread. <3 | ||
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I think rayn is town for now - he's doing that angry "I'm better than you and my opinions are the only ones that matter" thing and I associate that more with his townplay than his mafia play. For the record, that's not me paraphrasing any of his posts as I don't feel any of his posts even imply anything close - I'm just putting a phrase to the feeling I get from his play. I haven't filtered him, but I seem to recall agreeing with most of his posts? Anyway, he's I think he's town and he's still alive, so I think that's a good thing. He's a strong player. I'm going to go on the record and say that I'm trash at reading Koshi - so that combined with the fact that he's been pushing a mafia read on me all game means that I'm seriously never going to be able to objectively read him. Barring like a cop check or something, I'm forever null on Koshi. Everyone else I'm starting over on basically. That's where I'm at presently - filtering and deciding who the best lynch is today. My vote is on kushm4sta for claiming scum and conceding. Until he makes me think he's town, that's who I'm most interested in lynching today pending my rereads. | ||
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On August 13 2014 06:56 onevone wrote: Vigi, shoot Haru please. That would help a lot. lawl get REKT SON | ||
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##Vote raynpelikoneet Fuck it, I'm an idiot and I've got a townread on the guy, so YOLO right? Embrace the madness. | ||
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##Unvote ##Vote: Koshi | ||
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It's nonsense guys. Koshi MIGHT BE scum pulling a fast one on us all, but my money is on mafia pulled a hail Mary and tried to put one on Koshi. | ||
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Aside from that I've been pretty townie on Rayn...but concede that he may be scum who just said all the right things early to pocket me. Shrug. | ||
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On August 17 2014 12:49 Onegu wrote: How do you know kush isn't for sure? He hasn't done anything this game, he was the last on the bats wagon, and he is now pushing confirmed medic VE. I still can't get over my day one Rayn read either, it still seems like he believes what he is writing even though he is wrong a lot and I'm not really used to that. Sn0 I have no read on whatsoever. And will read his filter later. Scum have to be in these three though, rest is basically confirmed town in my opinion. Koshi Haru VE Like how is kush more confirmed town than me? And Haru is in the list of possible scum too? And where did all this logic go? Suddenly he's persecuting kush for pushing on me, but he in this very post just hours before says scum HAS to lie between two confirmed town and someone who pushed 2 scum lynches. Can we lynch Onegu first plz? | ||
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I CLAIM MEDIC>KOSHIPWNSCUM>I PROTECT KOSHI>NO NK SHOWN ITS REALLY EASY AND ANYONE SELLING THIS FANTASY THAT I NO KILL IS OUT OF THEIR MIND. | ||
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Is it actually rayn guys? | ||
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...... ..............VE is the medic and saved Koshi after Koshi railroaded a mafia lynch. :OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO | ||
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On August 19 2014 01:11 kushm4sta wrote: 3 prs in a 13 person game is fucking ridinkitydonkulonk Flail more. The vig and cop are both like confirmed X-shot, this statement is patently false. | ||
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I think it's just more likely that I saved Koshi, but that's just from an objective standpoint - even if they can get a lynch on me, anyone who pushes it looks like shit when I flip. I think they thought I wouldn't save Koshi and that they WERE implicating me by shooting someone I wasn't saving. | ||
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But I can see a no-shot too I guess. I just don't know who does it. Koshi is the only one I think, because he "KNEW" that I'd save him last night or something Koshiesque. | ||
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Nah, I'm not going down that rabbit hole today. LOL | ||
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I'm not trying to argue against Kush lynch btw, I just want to clearly understand your point. | ||
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On August 19 2014 01:43 raynpelikoneet wrote: I only thought VE was mafia at the start of D3 because i somehow thought there were 6 alive, not 7. In that case it would make sense to no-kill. That's why i asked VE who did he protect and when he said Koshi instead of Haru i thought he was scum playing a gambit. Ehh even then I'd have to like, kill someone THIS night and avoid scrutiny for not dying in Final 4....not a good gambit even then imo. | ||
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*looks at voting thread* Nah man you're good. | ||
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I'm the medic, I saved Koshi, and I think scum is either Rayn or Koshi, the two people who are making sure to keep VE on the table as a lynch all this cycle. I'm done. | ||
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On August 19 2014 02:06 raynpelikoneet wrote: So your logic is i am either right or mafia. Why do i even play with people like this... YOU literally just said "I'll lynch Kush and if he flips town I'll lynch VE" so you can save the high-and-mighty act rayn. You've been saying simultaneously that "it doesn't make sense for VE to be mafia" and "VE COULD be mafia guys" all this cycle. ALL CYCLE rayn. So yes, I'm saying that if Kush flips town then you're the mafia trying to manipulate town. Tell me why I should think otherwise given the things you've been saying all this cycle. | ||
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FUCK YOU WITH YOUR "Why do I play with people like this?" RAYN! | ||
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On August 12 2014 03:13 VisceraEyes wrote: rayn why aren't you helping me get MM1 lynched? He entered the thread with "Hey guys don't listen to me, I'm a non-presence so you'd do better just ignoring me" That's like, exactly what I expect from mafia at the beginning of a game with players the mafia hasn't played with. And look at it this way - the last time I felt this strongly about it was with Regy that last game, and I was right about him. You should go with me on this. On August 12 2014 03:18 raynpelikoneet wrote: I don't believe this. Even less when reading you posts where you called me, Palmar, Tom and Robik mafia. This is how you responded to me the last time I pleaded with your help in lynching someone. Yes, it was a townie, but you just brushed me aside without even considering my read or reasoning given. And I DID give reasoning for this read Rayn, that you say I didn't is a fucking lie or you just didn't read it (LIKE I JUST ACCUSED YOU OF, WHICH YOU DENIED). But whatever. You're a paragon of cooperation. | ||
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On August 20 2014 13:41 Onegu wrote: Yeah its not me never has been. Rayn is the only thing that makes sense. He played me all game and I was wrong thinking I could read him. Guys please dig my filter and realize its not me. If you fools want to know the reason its not me 100%, I have rolled scum I believe 7 times, of those 7 times I have won 2. A newbie and when I was paired with Marv and Sylencia. In most of the other games rayn it was you who had me pinned as mafia day 1/2 for legit reasons. The only thing that stuck in my craw yesterday about rayn and makeing me feel he is scum today besides PoE. Is this, i push kush yesterday, rayn then comes into the thread throws his vote on kush, I follow with my vote. He then asks why I feel kush is mafia even though I have already given it, rayn even though voteing kush never gives his reason for voteing kush until late in the day after being pushed for it. Onegu pleading to all of town, including rayn. ##Vote: Onegu gg friend. | ||
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It's game guys, Onegu is the last one. | ||
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You're never lynching me because I'm a soft-confirmed medic. You're never lynching Haru because he's a mod-confirmed vig. You're lynching Onegu unless one of you can make a compelling case on the other. Koshi, your case on rayn wasn't that good. You just quoted a bunch of his posts and said "Are there any reads in there?" That's cherry-picking and bullshit. I've thought rayn was town most of the game until yesterday when I emotionally OMGUSed onto him after you went on him. I think he's probably town, and I think that it's most likely that mafia shot you. I don't think you no-shoot and confirm me as town after calling me mafia all game. That doesn't make sense. Rayn, I apologize for losing my shit earlier with you, but being ignored is frustrating to me and I feel like when you completely dismiss posts I make that shit is scummy to me. You say I've been useless. I haven't been useless. I HAVE been AFK for a period, and I can own that. But I've been in here trying to figure out the game when I could be. I still think that it's possible that I could be wrong about Onegu and you're mafia, but concede that I mostly only think so because you say I've been useless and I disagree. I'm a medic and you continually attempting to discredit me, falsely, serves a mafia agenda from my perspective. It's possible that you are town though and honestly just think I've been useless this game. Whatever. I think you're town right now and Onegu is the last mafia. If I'm wrong and it's you then I'll deal with that tomorrow. Vote for Onegu and let's win. | ||
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NEVER EVER LYNCHING VE TODAY. I will not have it. I didn't give a shit earlier because it was GenCon and whatever the fuck, but now we're running out of mislynches and we're not burning one on the soft-confirmed uncounterclaimed MEDIC. If EITHER ONE of you EVEN THINKS of lynching me today, I'm burning this motherfucker down I swear to God. | ||
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If he flips town then what? Either I die or Koshi dies or rayn dies. In the event that I live that means that it will be Haru and myself and either Koshi or rayn alive with the scum of the two shooting the town of the two in the night. The only one in a position to do this is rayn, because while both rayn and Koshi have been keeping me on the table as a lynch candidate, in order for Koshi to be the one that means he would have had to no-shoot the night I saved him. I want to refuse to believe that this could all have been Koshi's master plan. But the other way around makes MUCH more sense. Koshi was right and rayn was wrong about much of the first two days, and I can see rayn putting a shot on Koshi thinking I'd be protecting Haru the confirmed. | ||
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It's whatever. I'm over it already. | ||
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On August 17 2014 11:19 Koshi wrote: Either you go in 3 vs 1 lylo with HaruRH confirmed. Or you go into 2 vs 1 mylo with HaruRH confirmed. Shit is good. SHIT WAS SUPPOSED TO BE GOOD SHIT WAS SUPPOSED TO BE GOOD | ||
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KOSHI RAYN WOULD HAVE KILLED HARU BECAUSE HE KNEW THAT I DIDN'T KNOW THAT HARU WAS CONFIRMED TOWN AT THE TIME! HE WOULD HAVE KILLED HARU AND IMMEDIATELY KILLED ME FOR "NOT BEING THE MEDIC" THE NEXT DAY SO IT'S NOT RAYN! THAT MAKES IT ONEGU UNLESS ITS YOU! IT'S NOT ME GUYS BECAUSE I'M A MEDIC WHO HAS A CONFIRMED SAVE ON KOSHI, THE PERSON WHO HAS PUSHED ON TWO SCUM LYNCHES! ITS NOT ME, WHICH MAKES IT ONEGU! EVERYONE SHOULD BE VOTING FOR ONEGU!!! | ||
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So I think it's Onegu. I think he's played a really good background character in this story, but it's time his story ends. We should be voting for him today. Don't kill me. Make mafia kill me. I'm the medic. It's mod-confirmed. Sloosh said it, there were no night kills two nights ago. That means that either you think that I no-kill and then go AFK to GenCon, WHICH IS A LOSING STRATEGY NO MATTER WHAT EVERY TIME, OR YOU HAVE TO BELIEVE THAT I'M THE FUCKING MEDIC AND KOSHI WAS MEDIC SAVED! | ||
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On August 21 2014 02:31 Koshi wrote: I have quotes of you saying that I always think you are mafia after D3. ugh. w.e It's not worth it. You thinking I am scum is way more outrageous than the other way around. THIS! I saved Koshi so if rayn actually believes that, then he has to believe that I'm medic and has to believe that I'm telling the truth about the medic save...so that means the he has to believe that Koshi no-kills in a game where every other post is calling VE scum, AND VE HAS CLAIMED MEDIC! | ||
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On August 20 2014 20:55 raynpelikoneet wrote: I will ignore you in every fucking game for now on after D2. You are beincg fucking terrible now Koshi. So fucking terrible. I hope you lose and get depressed because you fucked up. This is all I see by way of explanation - you promising to make him lose as revenge for how terrible he's being. Please, if you're town you're sabotaging the game. You're willfully ignoring important evidence in an attempt to lose the game FOR town AS town, that's what you'd have me believe. I don't. I think you want to win. | ||
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On August 20 2014 21:25 raynpelikoneet wrote: [/b](4): Koshi no-hitting makes perfect sense on N2. After bats lynch he was considered "incredibly townie" and he knows there is no way he is gonna get lynched anyways so it doesn't really matter if he kills or not. Just make everyone run in circles. This doesn't make any sense. It doesn't matter that he's considered "incredibly townie". What matters is that the entire game he's been calling me mafia. So why does he CONFIRM ME AS TOWN BY NO-HITTING? The only reasonable explanation is that I saved someone anyway, to think ANYONE no-kills would be unusual, so why would he do that as mafia? Why does Koshi leave confirmed town Haru alive AND confirm another townie AND keep not killing them? It doesn't make any sense rayn! | ||
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On August 21 2014 02:47 raynpelikoneet wrote: READ THIS EXCHANGE AGAIN! KOSHI WAS SOSOSOSOSO SURE BATS IS MAFIA!!!! srsly. Okay okay.....hold on. Just hold on. | ||
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On August 20 2014 21:25 raynpelikoneet wrote: (3): Koshi called batsnacks town because of Mages being mafia. Then on D2 he suddenly wants to lynch bats.. It makes no sense at all. He never explains it and he has to bus because there were already people thinking he is mafia. Also remember the time i made my last post on D2. Koshi was willing to sheep ME (his scumred) onto MM1 and away from bats. This also proves Koshi didn't really want to lynch bats - only wanted to look good in case bats flips later on. Yeah okay. And this phase he HAS been going on and on about how hard he was on bats. Okay. | ||
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##Unvote ##Vote: Koshi Whatever man. Zippity doo dah day. | ||
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On August 21 2014 03:03 Koshi wrote: I was actually thanking him for the vote. I thought he voted with you, not on you. Saw it later that he voted on you. Wasn't bothered. VE man.. How can you consider me over rayn.... It's so silly. It's because I'm so bad Koshi didn't you get the memo? You're the only person with any skill around here. | ||
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Rayn made a convincing argument. That post is incriminating, and you overplayed your hand this cycle. Don't blame me. | ||
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On August 21 2014 03:22 Koshi wrote: Like... It was me who brought you on batsnacks. Only me. How can you forget these kinda things? Without me you would never be on batsnacks. You had him as 100% town. Who made it happen then? He says right there, to rayn the lynchpin is something else. Not you. So rayn's vote was his own, you now say Onegu's was his own, presumably because Onegu is in the game and you don't want to piss him off. I wasn't on batsnacks so you don't have to appeal to me in this case. Everyone else is DEAD. | ||
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On August 20 2014 19:00 Koshi wrote: 5) VE is probably medic. It just is. RB on scum. maybe a 1 shot lawyer left? But even with a goon a medic looks ok. Now he even claims consecutive... And I reread VE his early days and they weren't that bad. They are pretty consequent. On August 20 2014 22:27 Koshi wrote: Now on top of that unconfirmed town Snowman died. Who had VE as scum, it was close to his only scumread. Unconfirmed town Snowman was pointed out by flipped town Kush that he might be scum. Now explain to me why unconfirmed town Snowman died while scum can kill for them confirmed medic VE or the confirmed vigi HaruRH, or the very likely town Koshi? Most medics aren't consecutive and I can't believe scum believed that VE might be a consecutive medic. The only person that even remotely profit from the Snowkill as scum is VE. It's so insane. He is the only one. How am I not dead when I point out rayn/Onegu in my "goodbye" post and I just had the medic on me? VE is the only one that make sense. or it is scum wifom. There is no reason for scum to take a shot if we misslynch tonight. So you don't get extra information tomorrow. We should ask the host how that plays out. When we keep no lynching and scum keeps holding their shot. Koshi both trying to justify not suspecting me anymore, saying that he no longer thinks I'm scummy, and also keeping his options open. | ||
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On August 21 2014 03:46 Koshi wrote: Why the fuck wouldn't I kill you this night and then convince HaruRH to kill Onegu or rayn................................... And why would I kill Snow if my plan was to misslynch you....................................... Why would I try to do so much shit today if I had everything planned out..................................... Why would I poke HarURH that hard to sheep me on rayn if I can get Onegu lynched.................................. w.e one of you and rayn is town and you scumread me. It's a disgrace. What are you even talking about? Sno had me as mafia for the last TWO DAYS! What do you even mean by the bolded? OF COURSE you shoot Sn0 if you're trying to implicate VE, you even say yourself that you think the Sn0 shot "implicates VE SOOOOOO friggin hard" or whatever. | ||
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On August 21 2014 03:51 Koshi wrote: I don't see how it is scummy to keep remembering all possibilities. It's only a possibility if you know for sure that we're in a game with someone who no-kills. And the only way you know that for sure is if you're on the team that no-kills. | ||
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Either way, the setup isn't completely open and so doesn't matter. | ||
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Get outta here dude. | ||
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You even argued with me about it, you said "It's a normal! Newbies are normal, this is a normal, so no shots aren't allowed!" You didn't know "deep down" that it was allowed, you knew for a FACT that it was allowed because your'e scum and that's what you did. | ||
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And then rayn came in and made a big case on MM1 and Koshi AGAIN tried to jump off onto MM1. It's pretty open and shut. Koshi just wanted to look good when batsnacks flipped town. He gave the hammer to rayn, who hammered batsnacks. | ||
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If he was so sure as town he would have been accusing rayn of trying to cockblock his lynch, not wishywash about MM1 and then GIVE rayn the hammer. | ||
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BECAUSE HE'S MAFIA TRYING TO GET ME LYNCHED. If he were town and saw a no kill, and the medic claimed to save him AFTER the mafia he just killed tried to counterclaim his role, HE'D HAVE A PRETTY HARD TOWNREAD ON THE MEDIC REGARDLESS OF THAT MEDIC'S PLAY UP TO THAT POINT REGARDLESS. Why? Because as town YOU DON'T KNOW WHO TO TRUST! So when something happens that gives him reason to trust, he should GRAB HOLD AND NEVER LET GO. But he doesn't. He NEVER trusts VE. That's a sign of mafia pushing an agenda - he never reevaluates me until THIS cycle, and even in this cycle he goes from saying I'm probably the medic and my posts look better than he has been saying ALL GAME LONG to saying that the lurklord Onegu looks townier than I do and he'd lynch me over Onegu. KOSHI'S PLAY DOES NOT LINE UP WITH A TOWNIE MINDSET AT ALL. | ||
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It's not me guys. It's either rayn or Koshi or Onegu. Based on what I've been reading in Koshi's filter, I give Koshi/Onegu about the same chances of being scum and I'm leaning more town on rayn now. I HATE HOW HE PLAYS, but he might be right about Koshi. If he's not I'll look into rayn tomorrow if I'm still alive. I still think the Onegu thing is telling, but he might just be town and misremembering stuff...though he DID get really really active when called out earlier. I'd like to hear everyone's opinion on that. | ||
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I'm not buying it Koshi. | ||
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You're right, continuing to talk to you is only serving to further bias myself. But you do need to explain why even after you say that you've gone over my posts and they're "not as bad as I thought", and saying I'm probably the medic, why you say that you'd lynch me over Onegu, or put me at a higher percentage of being mafia. You DO need to qualify those with reasoning, in case you are town. Because if Onegu is really as townie as you say with half the filter I have, and NO medic save on you to his credit, I need to see what you're seeing. | ||
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On August 13 2014 01:11 Onegu wrote: Rayn what are your thoughts on damdred. He isnt looking to good to me. Is interaction with mages was like oh you call me scum right back at ya. And he really wanted to protect bats Like, clearly Damdred was NOT trying to "protect bats" because Damdred was town. But how did he know bats needed protecting? Sure he has a read, but strong enough to base another read on? And this other read is him pushing someone OTHER than bats anyway! | ||
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On August 21 2014 07:11 Koshi wrote: The fact he defends MM1 while pushing his only scumbuddy D2. That is so unlikely to come from scum. Like, and this isn't a terrible point, but as I showed you in the post I just quoted FROM D2, it's not like he was EXCLUSIVELY pushing his scumbuddy, he was keeping his options open too. Like I'm accusing you of doing now, he was doing D2 with the bats lynch. Are you town and biased because he agreed with you on what you perceive to be your legacy in this game? Because if so that's bullshit, but I understand it because that's kinda where I'm at with rayn and his defending me based on how NONSENSICAL thinking I'm scum is at this point. | ||
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Like, when he calls out me he says something like "There are WAY more lurkers than batsnacks and I" LIKE REALLY?!?!!? HE EVEN DEFENDS BATSNACKS JUST TO DIG AT ME?!?! | ||
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Even if the decision is the same tomorrow, there are reasons to think Onegu is scum and he has a 5 pg filter and stuff. | ||
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On August 21 2014 23:10 HaruRH wrote: Whats the difference? Top quote is titanic, bottom is this game. Top is scum. I don't see how the two are similar. In the first post he never denies being mafia, it actually feels like a scum post. The second post screams town to me because he immediately is on the offensive about things IN the thread (the player townreading him earlier into scumreading him now). I don't see how these two posts are similar at all. | ||
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On August 22 2014 02:56 Koshi wrote: rayn listen to me. There is no reason for VE to be more town over Onegu. Onegu busses, but sometimes he might just be right about scum. 1) VE was on not scum 2 times. 2) Yesterday he joins you to lynch me, it doesn't make any sense. Onegu/Koshi is worse than Onegu/rayn for him. 3) Snow was killed by ONEGU? Tell me why. 4) VE believes he will be alive at lylo. VE looked town yesterday. That's why I am pretty sure we should lynch you. But over Onegu? come on. 1) I was AFK both lynches. I missed the mafiaclaim from Mages and I was AFK the entire day during batsnacks. This doesn't make me mafia at all. 2) You've been calling the mod-confirmed medic mafia all game long and you're still doing it now. It doesn't make any sense. Just like this point. I think you're mafia because the things you do and say are wrong AND don't make any sense. Like how does being right about TOWNIES make you more TOWN?!?! If anything it makes you more MAFIA Koshi, with TOO MUCH INFORMATION. YOU DON'T MAKE SENSE, SO I THINK YOU ARE MAFIA! 3) TO IMPLICATE VE! SO THAT YOU SAY THIS RIGHT NOW! SNO WAS VERY VERY VOCAL ABOUT BEING MAFIA ON VE! WHY WOULD ONEGU NOOOOOOOT KILL SNO!?!?!?!?!?!!?!??! 4) I do not believe I will be alive at LYLO. I meant that whoever is alive will decide. You have to give me that I've thought I was going to die every night since I claimed and I HAVE NOT died. Of course I assume mafia are leaving me alive for whatever reason, so it will persist. OF COURSE. THIS DOESN'T MAKE ME MAFIA AT ALL! BUT KOSHI STILL USES IT TO CALL ME MAFIA! WTF?!!? | ||
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On August 22 2014 03:03 VisceraEyes wrote: Onegu is the mafia here. It's either Onegu or it's Koshi still pushing the "don't believe the medic" agenda that MAFIA ARE CONFIRMED PUSHING BECAUSE I'M STILL NOT DEAD | ||
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On August 22 2014 03:01 VisceraEyes wrote: 1) I was AFK both lynches. I missed the mafiaclaim from Mages and I was AFK the entire day during batsnacks. This doesn't make me mafia at all. 2) You've been calling the mod-confirmed medic mafia all game long and you're still doing it now. It doesn't make any sense. Just like this point. I think you're mafia because the things you do and say are wrong AND don't make any sense. Like how does being right about TOWNIES make you more TOWN?!?! If anything it makes you more MAFIA Koshi, with TOO MUCH INFORMATION. YOU DON'T MAKE SENSE, SO I THINK YOU ARE MAFIA! 3) TO IMPLICATE VE! SO THAT YOU SAY THIS RIGHT NOW! SNO WAS VERY VERY VOCAL ABOUT BEING MAFIA ON VE! WHY WOULD ONEGU NOOOOOOOT KILL SNO!?!?!?!?!?!!?!??! 4) I do not believe I will be alive at LYLO. I meant that whoever is alive will decide. You have to give me that I've thought I was going to die every night since I claimed and I HAVE NOT died. Of course I assume mafia are leaving me alive for whatever reason, so it will persist. OF COURSE. THIS DOESN'T MAKE ME MAFIA AT ALL! BUT KOSHI STILL USES IT TO CALL ME MAFIA! WTF?!!? | ||
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On August 22 2014 03:09 Koshi wrote: Don't say things I didn't say. The last 4 words were never said. I didn't say you said it today, I said you MAINTAIN it today with things like "I just don't understand VE". The point, Koshi, is that I just refuted every single thing you say makes me mafia. Every thing, and you just ignore that. DO you think my play has been shitty? Let's put it to rest right now - I think Onegu is the last mafia Kush, someone you think has a higher chance of being a townie than /I/ have. Do you think my play has been shitty Koshi? | ||
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On August 22 2014 03:03 Koshi wrote: Ugh. here again. See you don't play consistent. Your best day was today, and it was out of survival, not because you found Onegu scum. Onegu was equally scummy yesterday rayn. Nothing new happened because Onegu did nothing on D4. That means you lynched Kush before Onegu, while being CERTAIN on Kush. That means you tried to lynch your own townread Koshi before Onegu. But a night of sleep made you consider not trowing the game? But then me not changing on Onegu makes you decide to trow the game? But towards VE you are ok to die? Not me? It all doesn't make any sense. I will lynch Onegu for you tomorrow. But I am pretty sure it is VE. | ||
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On August 22 2014 06:34 Koshi wrote: Harurh, First of all. Stay on rayn please. Everything he did pushed his scum agenda. The only thing that didn't was the batsnacks lynch, that 1 second. And he tried to cash in on that so many times. He knows it. I got him as 99% scum. I am not afraid to say it. Secondly, and this is a bit silly to say in the same post. Flip a coin tomorrow ![]() In this post, Koshi clearly shows that he knows rayn will flip town and the game will continue. rayn are you SURE it's not Koshi? | ||
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I'm the medic. I claimed on D2 and then mafia batsnacks tried to counterclaim my role to save his own ass. It was a desperation move to be certain, if he'd gotten me lynched I'd have flipped medic and he'd instantly be lynched, but make no mistake, I'M the medic and he tried to counterclaim MY role. However, I'm not confirmed town - slOosh was kind enough to grant us the info that it's possible for mafia to have withheld their shot. So if you're in a tinfoil-hat-type of mood, there's always that to consider - I could be mafia who withheld my shot to attempt to confirm my mafia claim. Haru is the vigilante. There was a night with more than one night-kill and Haru claims to have shot 1v1. Pretty open and shut - the OP clearly states that mafia KP is always 1, so there's no way mafia could have arranged to have 2 people die. Haru is mechanically confirmed town. Koshi was one of the earliest pushers of batsnacks. This is indisputable and is evident over the entire thread. He was one of the first and most consistent pushers of batsnacks. However, in my opinion, Koshi on D2 backs off batsnacks quite considerably and even goes so far as to grant rayn the hammer WHEN IT MATTERS. Rayn chose batsnacks instead of MM1, who he had been pushing consistently since earlier that day, and batsnacks ended up being lynched. Koshi would have you believe that this is meaningless, but I don't think so. I think it makes rayn town. He had every excuse to hammer MM1, and he could have done it without looking bad, and it would have saved a mafia teammate, at a time when it's really important for mafia to have numbers. Onegu scumslipped in my opinion. Earlier today he decided that he had narrowed it down to raynpelikoneet and then when pleading with town, he included rayn in his pleads. Also, during D2 he can be seen pushing several people who are NOT batsnacks, and during D1 he defended batsnacks when I called him out as a possible lurker lynch. The mafia ARE between Onegu and Koshi imo. I think rayn is town and he's being effed right now. I could be wrong, I don't think I am. If I die in the night then that will leave Koshi/Onegu/Haru. If Onegu dies it will be Koshi/Haru/Myself and if Koshi dies it will be Haru, myself and Onegu. I'M PRAYING TO GOD that Koshi dies in the night and Onegu outs himself as mafia or some such nonsense...or that Onegu dies and Koshi outs himself as mafia, but the most likely outcome of this night will be that I die. That will leave town with one confirmed (because I'm protecting Haru tonight) and then two ?'s. Between the two, I think Onegu is the most likely mafia, followed closely by Koshi. | ||
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Lynch ONEGU tomorrow![/b] Lynch ONEGU tomorrow![/b] Lynch ONEGU tomorrow![/b] Lynch ONEGU tomorrow![/b] Lynch ONEGU tomorrow![/b] | ||
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On August 23 2014 11:01 Onegu wrote: Thats why your claim was safe. 2 PR had already been revealed. One extreamly powerful, in a vigi that becomes mod confirmed town after the shot, and a one shot cop isnt terrible. You decided the odds were good there would be no more PR and fakeclaimed. Then look at Bats counter claim timing. Its extreamly fishy looking back on it. He only did it after there was no saveing himself. Then Koshi think about kills. He no shot the perfect night to set up his story, he was down 2 scummates in 2 days and had to make a play. The no shot makes him look really believeable and basicly gurentees he gets to lylo. Then Sn0 gets shot after screaming VE is scum, followed by Koshi who was 99% town on me. Why does scum onegu make those shots. He doesn't. Then look how VE plays yesterday, first he finds a "scumslip" from me, but then sheeps rayn off of a "scumslipped" onegu? He then found a Koshi "scumslip" but sheeps rayn back on to me. Whats that tell you? He is scum and wanted lylo vs rayn. Nothing else makes sense. ##VOTE: VE Like, all of this is stuff that you could have noticed yesterday, if not by reading the thread (as I'm assuming you're telling us you've done now) then by Koshi saying THE EXACT SAME THING ABOUT ME YESTERDAY. All of this should have been something you considered yesterday, and instead you did the exact same thing you've done all game: made a few blah statements about your current stance on the gamestate, and then fade into the background as louder players take the forefront. I don't fault you - town has let you do it all game long. One of town's strongest forces has had you as a strong townread for the last two days until you SHOT HIM IN THE FACE. But now there's nowhere to hide. Just you and a hard confirmed town and a soft confirmed town. You would have stood a better chance with Koshi, friend. | ||
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Thread Reasons - I claimed medic on D2, mafia attempted to counterclaim me on the block - N2, no night-kill occurred. - Outside of confirmed mafia, no counterclaims Setup Reasons - 3 mafia, 1 unlimited roleblocker - 1-shot cop, 1-shot vig I'd expect the above setup to be played PROFESSIONALLY. As in, the above setup is REALLY HARD for town. First of all, the RB is allowed to hit EVERY NIGHT as compared with town's 1-shot powers. Second of all, in most normal games the power roles are ABOUT EQUAL to the mafia number. NOT Mafia power roles, MAFIA NUMBER. Because in essence, all mafia are a power role (because they have all the information), when balancing games the STANDARD is to keep town power roles and mafia number EQUAL. So you'd expect at least one more power role RIGHT OFF THE TOP, but then, you also would expect a power role that isn't as inhibited as the other confirmed power roles. A NON-RESTRICTED MEDIC, for instance. For these reasons, I consider myself to be soft-confirmed town. And because Haru is hard-confirmed town, I absolutely don't fault you for taking a stab at disproving my claim Onegu. But the facts are right there. | ||
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On August 23 2014 19:59 HaruRH wrote: Right. So unless sloosh ends the game now, we need to wait 2 days for the flip. Theres no way I am moving my vote. Also VE. Onegu dies today 100%. So if possible, sloosh please end our misery. ^ It's solved from my perspective, and if Haru is telling the truth I'm good to end whenever. | ||
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On August 23 2014 20:36 Onegu wrote: Also why would I shoot Koshi? So you can say this right here. Because your only plays are 1) kill Koshi and make VE look like mafia, or 2) kill VE and make Koshi look like mafia. Because you've been setting up 2) the whole game long (dodging my medic saves, kill Sn0) then the logical followup is to kill Koshi and go for broke. There's no taking back the Koshi shot on D2, which is how we ended up here in the first place. | ||
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That's like the third time ever I think. :D e: Suck it Kita ![]() | ||
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