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Damdred
Profile Joined July 2014
15669 Posts
August 12 2014 17:54 GMT
#761
I don't want their to be a no lynch and i'm just sitting on someone I think is mafia and not gaining traction

##Unvote
##Vote HaruRH
onevone
Profile Joined August 2014
218 Posts
August 12 2014 18:00 GMT
#762
On August 13 2014 01:02 Mages wrote:
For the sake of moving this along, as well as a change of heart, I


##unvote
##Vote Batsnacks


Why did you vote for batsnacks again btw?
Onegu
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States9699 Posts
August 12 2014 18:10 GMT
#763
Alright Im getting ready for bed soon. Ill go with you rayn.

##UNVOTE

##VOTE:HaruRH
Try TL Mafia!!!
Damdred
Profile Joined July 2014
15669 Posts
August 12 2014 18:14 GMT
#764
Why the sudden change Onegu? There was still a chance fo someone going to bat and you seemed dead set on him?
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
August 12 2014 18:21 GMT
#765
Why I won't move my vote. But I cba tbh to nazi you people into voting batsnacks. My d1 lynch scum ratio is pretty low anyway. But not terrible low.

There is still nothing on why HaruRH is scum. Except for the contradiction in the readspost he made. Which was an entire cotnradiction fest. His 3 points were connection based strangeness thingies and his 3 scumreads with VE/1v1/Koshi were never mentioned. It was something ugly in total, but was it scummy?
Which scum doesn't see I called 1v1 a liar and not snow?
Which scum doesn't see that VE made that post and not rayn?

Batsnacks on the other hand didn't have reads/Doesn't have reads. So we can't judge him on that. Nothing tell me he is going to be active this game btw, or an impact. Nothing. At least Harurh is holding onto something with this notebook thing. He is doing something.

rayn? rayn is nothing. Where is the towncase on batsnacks rayn promised? He quoted 1 sentence of batsnacks that looked acceptable. You call that persuasive? I fucking don't.
Where is rayn his case on HaruRH? Nowhere. It just isn't there and the case on batsnacks is at least acceptable. rayn got 1 thingie on HaruRH and rayn needed time to see if it came from town or scum. Which means it wasn't red alarm bells when he saw it. He spinned it into something scummy. On purpose? Maybe.

Voters on batsnacks? Sn0_Man, Koshi, onevone, Onegu, kushm4sta, HaruRH
Voters on Harurh? raynpelikoneet, Mysterymeat, VisceraEyes
I know which one I like the most. Sadly my townies evacuated to HaruRH now so bleh. We should actually lynch VE. I guess we do that tomorrow.

Batsnacks filter in Showdown mafia.
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/462291-showdown-mafia?user=batsnacks&page=3
Look how many times he posts before the deadline of today. EVERY day he posts before the deadline. On page 3/4/5 and I stopped looking. TODAY he is sadly unavailable to post till right after the deadline.

On August 13 2014 01:24 Koshi wrote:
Bat is scummy useless.
Meta ( see previous post + kush point on hardtry)
Scum traits like irl activity issues. (Next week kids school)
1 page filter. (Is just really low no matter how much time you have)
Connections to KoC only who he is pushing. He has a filter that reveals nothing when he would flip scum.





Like... I am not going to lynch batsnacks tomorrow if Harurh flips town. Harurh is for the vigi or the cop then. Tomorrow we go for rayn/VE when Harurh flips town. Fucking be sure of it.
I had a good night of sleep.
Sn0_Man
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
Tebellong44238 Posts
August 12 2014 18:24 GMT
#766
On August 13 2014 03:14 Damdred wrote:
Why the sudden change Onegu? There was still a chance fo someone going to bat and you seemed dead set on him?

Wat happened to ur VE suspicions?
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Damdred
Profile Joined July 2014
15669 Posts
August 12 2014 18:27 GMT
#767
Right now there are two wagons in this thread and now I don't have to pick one because there are 8 votes on haruh I believe by my eye count. I am still suspicious of VE his ignoring questions getting so mad over being scum read and peace'd out for a bit and wanting to push a d1 case on lynch bait. Its still there and my #1 scum read (which btw total shit you guys won't even listen to me) is impossible to get traction on because everyone is stuck on bats or haru and haru is much scummier to me right now than bats, Koshi makes a good case against bats so i'm re-reading that and the cases against him now.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
August 12 2014 18:40 GMT
#768
Harurh towncase:

1) Harurh started with 4 trolley post / joke posts. They weren't awkward. They were somewhere funny/alright. Not scummy. Not townie.

2)
On August 12 2014 19:44 HaruRH wrote:
Alright I'm backa. I have made a nice little chart of everything that have happened so far (who called who scum/town etc) and I have noticed some weird stuff:

Out of the many interactions over here, 3 stood out for me:

1)MM1 called 1v1 town, but 1v1 called MM1 scum. It is almost like they chose to talk about each other just so that they have content about one another.
2)batsnacks is universally scumread by everyone (sn0,rayn,koshi,kush). Nobody have townread bat so far.
3)Damndred/mages interaction feels out of place and feels forced. It almost feels like they are staging a show just to show that they interacted with one another. They used meta from unquotable/uncheckable sources that obviously shows that they are staging some sort of performance.

As such, I have my list out:

Top town: Haru

Leaning town: MM1 (he always die early and is always the lynch target)

Fence: kush, mages, rayn, onegu, kotc, damndred, sn0,bat (I still need time to evaluate their game play).

Leaning scum: koshi (he has been the most wishy washy player till now)
VE (his reads are not consistent)
1v1 (his reads feels forced and rehearsed, almost a perfect copy each time he gives his list)

This is fucking terrible. But is it coming from scum? I can't be sure. I can see a townie looking at the interactions he describes in 1) & 3) and I can see that townie noting it down in this notebook of his. 2) is a decent point, sadly he makes a mistake, BUT scum makes that mistake to either push the idea that batsnacks is not mafia (aka scumbuddy) or because he doesn't give a fuck and didn't read the thread well.

The list of reads is terrible as well. But I see town making a contradiction list like that over scum. Really. What is the scum perspective?

On August 12 2014 20:14 HaruRH wrote:
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On August 12 2014 20:07 Koshi wrote:
Yeah, I noticed it as well. But I don't think it is scummy. It is somewhat strange but they know each other so we might be missing parts.

HaruRH about batsnacks. What did you mean with "nobody townreads him" is that good or bad or?


FROM MY (LIMITED) EXPERIENCE,
He is town for being universally scumread. it is a bit too early for mafia to bus bat when he have done nothing yet and it feels stupid to just bus him now.
So, if he flips scum (vigi shot maybe?), then we can safely assume there are scum in the pool of people who haven't give bat a read yet.

Either we believe this guy has a notebook and he is town. (Also terrible at writing in this notebook.) Or he is a liar.

But no scum has a notebook. with drawings. Never.

The following posts HaruRH makes are all about his readpost. Defending himself and coming to the conclusion a couple times he was wrong.

Here he is wrong:
On August 12 2014 19:55 HaruRH wrote:
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On August 12 2014 19:52 Koshi wrote:
On August 12 2014 19:49 HaruRH wrote:
On August 12 2014 19:46 Koshi wrote:
You must be kidding me.


from my preliminary read with what I wrote down in my notebook that I copied off onegu's idea because I thought that was a good idea.

I circled (koshi townreads sn0, changes to wanting to lynch him for lying, then changes to liking him) in my notebook.

I wanted to lynch 1v1 for lying. I always townread Snow through the game.

1)MM1 called 1v1 town, but 1v1 called MM1 scum. It is almost like they chose to talk about each other just so that they have content about one another.
2)batsnacks is universally scumread by everyone (sn0,rayn,koshi,kush). Nobody have townread bat so far.
3)Damndred/mages interaction feels out of place and feels forced. It almost feels like they are staging a show just to show that they interacted with one another. They used meta from unquotable/uncheckable sources that obviously shows that they are staging some sort of performance.

Why is there nothing from this in your reads? You call 1v1, VE and Koshi scum but in the quote above you are insinuating that some couples are scum together.


Where is the insinuating part? I am just highlighting the possibility of such things happening.

sorry my bad, I wrote that part down wrongly. I thought I saw you voting sn0. :/


This guy is actually around.
On August 12 2014 19:55 HaruRH wrote:
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On August 12 2014 19:54 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Haru are tou around in 2hours? I can't decide if your posr is incredibly scummy or the other way around.....


Yes I am around for the next few hours (2+).

Here are 2 where he explains why he thinks Damdred/Mages is off:
On August 12 2014 20:01 HaruRH wrote:
The problem don't really lie with you, mages. It is more with damndred.

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On August 12 2014 08:36 Damdred wrote:
Jokes on you buddy my filter is already bigger than on day one than it was on day 6.

Your foolish post makes you seem happy to shift blame to someone else. Your third pick for scummy makes me think you will try to make me omgus but your scum.

Show nested quote +
On August 12 2014 08:59 Damdred wrote:
Believe me MM for great judgment come with me mages is scum.

Its a great day one we found one look at it. He claims he hates lynches on day one and then randomly puts his vot on cat.

Look at his reads he was so sure i was acting scummy but wouldn't committ to voteing me wanted someone else chase his meta read on me so he could br safe.

He called out kush for nonreasons and tried to shift more blame on VE when i mentioned dodging questions.

##vote mages

follow me trust me


someone mentioned that damdred was a cool and calm player. This doesn't really add up. This feels forced.

On August 12 2014 20:05 HaruRH wrote:
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On August 12 2014 19:44 HaruRH wrote:

3)Damndred/mages interaction feels out of place and feels forced. It almost feels like they are staging a show just to show that they interacted with one another. They used meta from unquotable/uncheckable sources that obviously shows that they are staging some sort of performance.


Show nested quote +
On August 12 2014 09:43 Damdred wrote:
Maybe its cause i have so much experience with how he plays. I feel he is scum for the reasons i posted ill give him time to post back though

Show nested quote +
On August 12 2014 07:46 Mages wrote:
Haha, 1v1, Glad I could do that : )

Three most, I stick by Cats & onegu as my original two as i had said i was on the fence with them and went with cats bc i have little more to go on, if i had to take a third, i guess Damdred too because i've modded games before for him on another site and his playstyle is currently very much of that which he adheres to when he's evil in my games. He's talking a lot, on my board he's far less talkative, and he hasn't really made any hard "This is what i want and this is why" accusations. I know you guys can't know that as you haven't seen that side of him, but that's what I believe. Course, this is only day one and i daren't accuse Damdred yet too because he could be good, just trying something new on this board. I know from him that last game he was the last mafia after like 2 others ragequit or something, and he was able to win - is his style in this one similar to that of the last one or different? if it's different from I'd wager that it MORE likely that he's on the side of good and that would deter my doubt in him.

But there they are, those are the three I'll stick by.


this is what I am basing it on.

The bolded is pretty good.
On August 12 2014 20:14 HaruRH wrote:
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On August 12 2014 20:07 Koshi wrote:
Yeah, I noticed it as well. But I don't think it is scummy. It is somewhat strange but they know each other so we might be missing parts.

HaruRH about batsnacks. What did you mean with "nobody townreads him" is that good or bad or?


FROM MY (LIMITED) EXPERIENCE,
He is town for being universally scumread. it is a bit too early for mafia to bus bat when he have done nothing yet and it feels stupid to just bus him now.
So, if he flips scum (vigi shot maybe?), then we can safely assume there are scum in the pool of people who haven't give bat a read yet.


Good counter:
On August 12 2014 20:43 HaruRH wrote:
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On August 12 2014 20:34 Damdred wrote:
Well morning all, a few thoughts to open up the day

1) Right now i'm leaning towards town on batsnacks because of his randomness in the way he plays though I do not like where his vote is right now as I think it's on a towny I don't think hes scum for that and the time I did play scum with him he went a bit more crazy hes closer to how he was in noir or close to it i'd like to see more out of him but I doubt we will before deadline today.

2) Why am I getting flack for being more aggressive than I have in the past? Kinda a bit of bull on that one.

3) Since haru has came back to the thread he feels a bit weirder to me


How about telling me why I feel weird rather than throwing a blanket read. I can do the same too.

This looks really odd and possibly a lie. He changes stories in the post after this.
On August 12 2014 22:35 HaruRH wrote:
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On August 12 2014 01:53 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On August 12 2014 01:48 Sn0_Man wrote:
On August 12 2014 01:39 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Sn0_Man could you also explain to me why you just said "it's more Koshi who is taking things out of proportion" but all of your post suggests otherwise. You don't like my points but Koshi has some sensible ideas.

How does that make sense?

Koshi's push on the "avatar" bit see:
On August 12 2014 00:43 Koshi wrote:
On August 12 2014 00:37 onevone wrote:
On August 12 2014 00:33 Koshi wrote:
On August 12 2014 00:29 onevone wrote:
On August 12 2014 00:23 raynpelikoneet wrote:
I am putting Mages to townpile aswell.


By the way, it'd be more helpful if you also explained your reads while sharing them rather than just saying "X is town, Y is scum".

I agree with rayn.

It would be helpful if you could tell us why Mages his play is most likely coming from town. Why should rayn tell you the answers to the game? rayn is testing others if they pay attention.

Why are you not paying attention?


Spoilered because I am bored talking about this:
+ Show Spoiler +
On August 12 2014 00:28 onevone wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 12 2014 00:02 Damdred wrote:
On August 11 2014 21:56 onevone wrote:


2) MysteryMeat1

Also opened the game by downplaying himself ("I'm trash at forum mafia" etc.). This time added with fluff about Avatar and such. A couple of players see that as a scummy opening and vote for him, and I think it was probably the best target for a pressure vote this early on.

After the votes on him, he comes back with a big case on VE (one of the voters) that isn't really saying much. He also says something like "the lynch is between me and VE now". I think he overreacts to the votes and combined with his self-trashing opening, it isn't a bad vote for now.

##Vote MysteryMeat1


On August 11 2014 11:53 VisceraEyes wrote:
His first post was all "Man I'm so bad and I can already tell you that you won't want to listen to anything I say"

Obviously I'm paraphrasing. But that's the feels I got reading his post. It made my ass twitch.


Ok I think I might of played to many IML games and i'm putting to much on where votes are right now. However if you don't think its scummy why even put it in your post that lead up to a vote?


Dunno, I had just finished writing about Mages and moved on to MM1. Both had downplayed themselves, but MM1 also talked about Avatar, so I guess I just put it in there.

Yeah you are scum.

There is no reason for you to bring up again that somebody talked about Avatar in the 5 first posts of the game when everybody at that time was talking about Avatar.

It is completely null that when there are people talking about watching Avatar, there is another guy who chimes in and says "I also watch avatar".

There is no fucking way that you can add him talking about Avatar to something else and come to the conclusion he is scum or scummy.


It's you who isn't paying attention, since I explained my town lean on Mages in one of my first posts + I've repeatedly said that the sentence about Avatar wasn't a reason for him being scum.

Stop lieing.

Here are your reads:
On August 11 2014 21:56 onevone wrote:
So, here are my brief observations from the early posts (any topics I took the effort to write down):

1) Mages

Started the game by downplaying himself, which might be new/nervous town or scummy avoiding of attention. Continued to express his thoughts after that, which makes me lean town, especially since he wasn't just following the flow of the thread but rather tried to bring his own thoughts to the discussion. Especially as a new scum player it would be somewhat hard/risky to post like that.

2) MysteryMeat1

Also opened the game by downplaying himself ("I'm trash at forum mafia" etc.). This time added with fluff about Avatar and such. A couple of players see that as a scummy opening and vote for him, and I think it was probably the best target for a pressure vote this early on.

After the votes on him, he comes back with a big case on VE (one of the voters) that isn't really saying much. He also says something like "the lynch is between me and VE now". I think he overreacts to the votes and combined with his self-trashing opening, it isn't a bad vote for now.

The bolded is for both people the same. They downplay their game.

BUT, the green stuff makes Mages a townread for you. While the red stuff made MM1 a scumread for you.

Clearly Avatar talk made MM1 more scummy to you. If you say that it never did, I am just calling scumhunting for this day and make sure you are lynched. Maybe you were an overzealous townie, maybe, but don't tell me you weren't scumreading MM1 partly because he talked about Avatar. Because you did.
To me, its obvious here that what made MM1 1v1's vote candidate was his response to VE's pressure and the Kush/VE votes indicating that others agreed with him. Which really isn't a town mindset but is also not what Koshi was trying to push on him. Which is why I felt like you two weren't necessarily pushing on the right axis and it made it hard to read.

Hence,
On August 12 2014 00:45 Sn0_Man wrote:
I don't read that post the same way koshi

I do think attacking same easy targets other people attack is scummy. I mean, townies do that aswell. But the whole construction of the post does not say anything - all it does is it gives onevone all sorts of outs to back off from his reads later on.


I had a feeling you were referring to batsnacks when you said this btw, on how he is just repeatedly attacking kotc when everyone have already pointed that shit out.

Here he updates his terrible readpost. It is still terrible. The question is is scummy?
On August 12 2014 22:41 HaruRH wrote:
officially updating what I wrote in my notebook after some errors have been spotted in my attempt to pen down everything; this is my first time trying this shit to supplement my shitty d1. Don't bother scumreading me for this post because this just represents what I wrote and found interesting, plus my after thoughts. You don't need to agree with them.

Fun fact for rayn:
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On August 12 2014 03:45 VisceraEyes wrote:
So okay. These are the people I'd lynch into today:

MysteryMeat1, Onegu, KingofCats, batsnacks

I feel like the case on MM is the strongest, so that's where my vote is. But I feel like I'm going to have to move it because people are squeamish about lynching him based on his history of being D1 mislynched, so I'm going to look into alternatives.

I accidentally thought you wrote this and wrote down that you felt bat was scummy. MY BAD.

1)MM1 called 1v1 town, but 1v1 called MM1 scum. It is almost like they chose to talk about each other just so that they have content about one another.
2)batsnacks is scumread by most (sn0,koshi,kush). Nobody have townread bat so far.
3)Damndred/mages interaction feels out of place and feels forced. It almost feels like they are staging a show just to show that they interacted with one another. They used meta from unquotable/uncheckable sources that obviously shows that they are staging some sort of performance.

As such, I have my list out:

Top town: Haru

Leaning town: MM1 (he always die early and is always the lynch target)

Fence: kush, mages, rayn, onegu, kotc, damndred, sn0,bat, koshi (I still need time to evaluate their game play).

Leaning scum:
VE (his reads are not consistent)
1v1 (his reads feels forced and rehearsed, almost a perfect copy each time he gives his list)


This is actaully a great summation of the "case" everybody is following here
On August 12 2014 22:58 HaruRH wrote:
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On August 12 2014 22:57 kushm4sta wrote:
rayn i'm interested in why you think haru is scum, because i don't quite get your case and haru looking pretty town to me


I'm interested to know why too. Is he going to point out some arguments that I already said I had written wrongly, or present something I can actually fight against?

terrible vote. Why would scum HaruRH not vote town batsnacks? This doesn't look like a scummer who wants to survive. Also doesn't look like a townie who wants to get a lynch off...
On August 12 2014 23:13 HaruRH wrote:
Meanwhile, ill just throw my vote with 1v1.

##Unvote
##Vote: Onevone

On August 12 2014 23:48 HaruRH wrote:
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On August 12 2014 23:43 Koshi wrote:
On August 12 2014 23:42 HaruRH wrote:
On August 12 2014 23:20 Koshi wrote:
On August 12 2014 23:13 HaruRH wrote:
Meanwhile, ill just throw my vote with 1v1.

##Unvote
##Vote: Onevone

Good vote. Do people believe he is scum with a notebook? Really? Or is he lying about the notebook?
It's majority lynch. Are you planning to convince 6 other to vote with you?


Not possible, I am going to sleep now <3 its way past my allocated bedtime, now I have less than 7 hours of sleep

Then vote batsnacks. If you won't I will really consider changing votes to you.


Fine. In exchange you let me sleep right now.

I literally cannot provide any content now because I spent too much of my only free time doing that stupid notebook idea. I still like that idea tho, I will try to do it for all my games in the future (and try to not make any mistakes)
1v1 I will explain them tomorrow when I wake up, approx. 7 hours later.

##Unvote
##Vote: batsnacks




Anyway. Conclusion:

Batsnacks is the better lynch
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
August 12 2014 18:42 GMT
#769
Oh wow. The first goddamn quote is wrong. It's already something insanely unreadable and now there is a quote wrong. Fuck that.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
August 12 2014 18:44 GMT
#770
EBWOB:


Either we believe this guy has a notebook and he is town. (Also terrible at writing in this notebook.) Or he is a liar.

But no scum has a notebook. with drawings. Never.
On August 12 2014 19:49 HaruRH wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 12 2014 19:46 Koshi wrote:
You must be kidding me.


from my preliminary read with what I wrote down in my notebook that I copied off onegu's idea because I thought that was a good idea.

I circled (koshi townreads sn0, changes to wanting to lynch him for lying, then changes to liking him) in my notebook.

I had a good night of sleep.
Sn0_Man
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
Tebellong44238 Posts
August 12 2014 18:48 GMT
#771
On August 13 2014 03:44 Koshi wrote:
Either we believe this guy has a notebook and he is town. (Also terrible at writing in this notebook.) Or he is a liar.

I think rayn is pretty convinced he's a liar based on the supposed contents of his oft-mentioned notebook
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Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
August 12 2014 18:50 GMT
#772
On August 13 2014 03:48 Sn0_Man wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 13 2014 03:44 Koshi wrote:
Either we believe this guy has a notebook and he is town. (Also terrible at writing in this notebook.) Or he is a liar.

I think rayn is pretty convinced he's a liar based on the supposed contents of his oft-mentioned notebook

What do you think Snow. I couldn't care less what rayn thinks.
I had a good night of sleep.
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
August 12 2014 18:51 GMT
#773
Koshi srsly. Are you mafia?
table for two on a tv tray
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
August 12 2014 18:51 GMT
#774
On August 13 2014 03:51 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Koshi srsly. Are you mafia?

Don't start with this shit.
I had a good night of sleep.
Mages
Profile Joined August 2014
96 Posts
August 12 2014 18:53 GMT
#775
Everybody's Mafia! Surprise!
I, Magus.
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
August 12 2014 18:53 GMT
#776
You do not post like this as town.
table for two on a tv tray
onevone
Profile Joined August 2014
218 Posts
August 12 2014 18:53 GMT
#777
The contents of the notebook are indeed bad, contradictory and a lot of stuff is left unexplained. Maybe it's bad enough that it comes back around to too scummy to be scum.. It just feels like he's not genuinely very interested in figuring out the game, but just made up bad content to look like he's doing stuff. batsnacks doesn't look very interested in the game either though.

And they both went AFK until deadline apparently. Great :/
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
August 12 2014 18:54 GMT
#778
On August 13 2014 03:53 raynpelikoneet wrote:
You do not post like this as town.

Ok great you are mafia then. Good job.

And if you are referring to this:
On August 13 2014 03:50 Koshi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 13 2014 03:48 Sn0_Man wrote:
On August 13 2014 03:44 Koshi wrote:
Either we believe this guy has a notebook and he is town. (Also terrible at writing in this notebook.) Or he is a liar.

I think rayn is pretty convinced he's a liar based on the supposed contents of his oft-mentioned notebook

What do you think Snow. I couldn't care less what rayn thinks.

I actually meant "I couldn't care less what you think rayn thinks". But I am pretty ok with the short version as well tbh.
I had a good night of sleep.
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
August 12 2014 18:55 GMT
#779
No you can see - as town - why Haru is mafia.
Haru
Koshi
Mages

ggnore.
table for two on a tv tray
onevone
Profile Joined August 2014
218 Posts
August 12 2014 18:56 GMT
#780
rayn, we're not lynching Koshi today. Tbh I'd rather lynch you than Koshi.
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