[T] Cell (Mini?) Mafia III
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On August 13 2014 10:42 ObiWanShinobi wrote: /in Can we fucking listen to what I have to say this time? PLEASE? Maybe if you say it in a well worded and formatted way with quotes and convincing arguments | ||
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On August 13 2014 10:48 ObiWanShinobi wrote: You're right, I should just convince everyone that someone is being a dick and he dies 100%. i posted reasons for that lynch and only one of them was ^^^^^^^!!! | ||
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On August 13 2014 10:54 WaveofShadow wrote: Cav I have requests for facecam streaming tonight Will you being able to visualize punching me in my face make you feel better? ![]() wut does this even meaaan | ||
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On August 13 2014 11:05 ObiWanShinobi wrote: And I told you why a last minute switch would be bad and you ignored me. And then everyone tried to kill me because I was indecisive. baseless statements such as "last minute switches always kill town" hold no weight whatsoever and most of the time in my experience they actually kill mafia and even if they don't you get a lottttt of info | ||
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On August 13 2014 11:13 ObiWanShinobi wrote: Fat lot of good all that info did for us. It's not even baseless. What kind of case would it take to stop a last minute switch? 'Cause nobody can switch that fast and have time to analyze the case against the person in question. because it's all about the post switch voting analysis that nobody did in that game whatsoever because half the pplz afk'd on wagons like tard heads | ||
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On August 05 2014 16:55 kushm4sta wrote: scared coward | ||
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On August 28 2014 08:35 ritoky wrote: my cell order was fine, the town just donkeyd it up and didn't listen to me when i called 4 of 5 mafia zzzzz they listened to you instead, and that got em to derptown. No they didn't listen to me at all because they almost lynched me. | ||
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On August 28 2014 08:37 ritoky wrote: they listened to you when you stopped them from lynching the confirmed mafia in the first cell that we found about 25 seconds into the game Excuse me while i ignore all your freedom shit all over again. You didn't push anything to stop mz getting lynched other than "he liked my freedom stuff". If you want to use that to really persuade everyone to vote for a non mafia go right ahead. I'm just not going to listen to you regardless and there are many other much more viable people that I'd rather vote over you. | ||
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I'd rather you talk about the content here than the theoretical ordering of people that haven't spoken yet | ||
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On August 28 2014 09:22 Professor Apathy wrote: the reason I want to be last is because I tend to be one of the most shitstorm creating guys on TL whenever I have to defend myself but I know to be town, so yeah... I have no reason to believe that B or D will be a shitstorm. The only one I'm really worried about is A so far and I'd rather be done with it early in this case because that means we have people like you, Marv and me still around judging the situation. This is what i am saying. If you are town then your group has the highest win rate for getting a point for town. I don't understand why you'd put yourself last and jeopardise that? | ||
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On August 28 2014 09:28 Not really holyflare wrote: Well, there will be a shitstorm in cell D for sure when mtam figures out who I am. I had beef with mtam. Once. And it was a glorious shitstorm. I be disappointed amiko have not figured out who I am yet. You're a dastardly dead lover in my eyes. Eden? | ||
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On August 28 2014 08:51 Holyflare wrote: Hey wave are you vt? ![]() | ||
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On August 28 2014 10:48 Professor Apathy wrote: if we assume that you're confident in reading everyone within 24 hours yes, otherwise no. How can you be so confident on being able to figure everyone out within 24 hours to make it the basis of how you want the groups ordered instead of placing them the way BH and I want (except that BH has this one major flaw in his order which is group E). I am. You also only need to be most sure of the first group in the first 24h anyway. | ||
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On August 28 2014 14:38 lilwade wrote: Hello, just your fellow town hero nothin to see here. As for order goes I have no preference being as I have only played with 1 or 2 of you. Cant believe all the butthurt people at ritokys great posts. Empathy you are clearly the mafia in our cell. Why did it take you 7 hours to post here but you were posting in your newbie game instead? | ||
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On August 29 2014 01:45 lilwade wrote: HolyFlare I was in the midst of making a campaign but I decided I knew little about day one cell tactics so I decided against it. I wanted to see also how cells are chosen or educated guessing about the order. It looks like you need to get on board with womens right as well. So you ditched the campaign and decided to do nothing instead? You left with a very random bunnies is mafia post but didn't say why. Elaborate that please. | ||
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On August 29 2014 02:36 lilwade wrote: Its obvious isnt it? I have a better town read on Apathy than on bunnies Elaborate verb ɪˈlabəreɪt/ 1. develop or present (a theory, policy, or system) in further detail. Stop playing dumb and expand on why you have a town read on apathy and not bunnies. I've seen you are capable of stringing together actual sentences. | ||
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On August 29 2014 03:20 Holyflare wrote: Honestly I'm just going to put forward A - E - D - B/C. Vote for me if you wish. On August 29 2014 03:24 Holyflare wrote: Would probably put E first put i expect a lot of whinging so i put it second. | ||
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On August 29 2014 03:33 Amiko wrote: @Holyflare: What are your feelings on the ease of Cell B? I'm considering you for a vote (EADCB) but I am mixed as some people are suggesting MysteryMeat is an easy read. I don't know how to read him but his entrance was terrible and i think i can read wave if i just ignore everyone elses ideas about him | ||
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On August 29 2014 04:00 Professor Apathy wrote: Also Holyflare gets massive minus points for trying to put me early. He knows I kill myself as towny everytime I have to defend myself because I'm too tired of having to talk with people like BH / ritoky and already my notes are full of people that read nothing but "noisy" or "way too annoying" The only way that doesn't happen is when I'm last and can't do that because we'd lose if I did that. Who says you have to defend yourself? | ||
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On August 29 2014 04:34 Professor Apathy wrote: you honestly don't think that's going to happen? Well I'd hope that if you were town then you could just point out the mafia and life would be dandy | ||
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On August 29 2014 04:40 Professor Apathy wrote: which brings us to me having to defend myself in front of everyone like ritoky who seems to think I'm mafia for trolling him, which is going to make me angry and I'm not doing shit anymore at all. We both now exactly that already happened... I think twice? And I got lynched as townie I think... 3 times in the last 4 years or so? Well day 2 should be plenty to figure things out and if you were last people might not trust what you say and you'd still have to defend yourself to make ppl listen. I'm not too bothered and i wouldn't really pressure you at all over the other 2 so just shrug it off. Especially as ritoky is first in my order ![]() | ||
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On August 29 2014 04:46 MysteryMeat1 wrote: you should put my group 3rd tambo, i've been workin on my clutch late game town. So what about your early game? Are you going to ever do anything? | ||
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On August 29 2014 06:13 batsnacks wrote: It's going to achieve me getting my way which is way better than potentially letting scum choose the order. Why is your way better if it's not actually your way? Why doesn't this order favour mafia? | ||
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On August 29 2014 06:21 batsnacks wrote: Because even if I'm mafia it's not me choosing. It's random. If we let a mayor choose the order, then they could be scum, and would put the groups they feel the least confident about winning last. That would be highly desirable for scum. By letting the cell order be random, this possibility is eliminated, and by making the cell order alphabetical the possibility of the mayor rigging a RNG order is eliminated. So what if your rng'd order is the most favourable for mafia?????.?.???? What information do you hope to use to find mafia? Wtf man | ||
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"i totally caught the mafia now guys" Not listening to you if you ever say some variation of those lines in this game | ||
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On August 29 2014 06:28 MysteryMeat1 wrote: ##Vote: Mtamburini Wtf is this | ||
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On August 29 2014 03:20 Holyflare wrote: Honestly I'm just going to put forward A - E - D - B/C. Vote for me if you wish. Could be persuaded to move E | ||
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On August 29 2014 07:13 batsnacks wrote: "Misguided, yet townish" Is that right? I got you to town read me. How misguided could I possibly be? It's like you're buzz lightyear. People know you are a toy because you are made of plastic and look like a toy. Even if you believe you are a space ranger sent to protect the planet from the evil emperor zerg. | ||
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On August 29 2014 07:36 ritoky wrote: are you bothered by the fact that you advocated for keeping active cells until later in the game last time, criticized me heavily for placing them early, then just did the same thing right here? I advocate keeping people that can solve the game legitimately at the end which i have done. | ||
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On August 29 2014 07:42 marvellosity wrote: but you KNOW as time goes on i am easily read as town. using the excuse that you couldn't read me yet is exceptionally, exceptionally poor I've had this order up the entire day and honestly your cell abd my cell i don't care what order it went. I didn't put more thought into it than me knowing my alignment thus making my cell easier. Me looking towny will just be a byproduct of me actually playing the game and finding mafia so honestly it really doesn't bother me. I don't think I'm not town read that often either. | ||
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On August 29 2014 07:44 marvellosity wrote: I also refuse to believe, given MM1's propensity to look extremely scummy in every game that he's been in, you can have any confidence that he is mafia from what he posted so far. Holyflare I haven't looked at mm1's games but if you can really look at the filter and say that's even town like then good for you. I AM wary of wave for taking so long to answer but he replied that his pm was town which was correct so is already infinitely ahead of what mm1 has done so far. My group is 4th so it gives me time to see if wave took too lomg to answer because je was waiting for artanis to tell him what our pm's said or if he was just afk. | ||
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On August 29 2014 07:50 ritoky wrote: I look at lilwade's filter and think he is 99% town, and his isn't much better, what's your opinion of lilwade? On August 28 2014 10:14 Holyflare wrote: Also lilwade is probably definitely 100% mafia. He's posted in his newbie game quite a few times since we got our pm's and not here at all On August 29 2014 03:15 Holyflare wrote: Elaborate verb ɪˈlabəreɪt/ 1. develop or present (a theory, policy, or system) in further detail. Stop playing dumb and expand on why you have a town read on apathy and not bunnies. I've seen you are capable of stringing together actual sentences. I know he's not dumb and posting in one game but not here and then having no content at all is completely different from what I've seen him writing in other places | ||
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On August 29 2014 07:50 Professor Apathy wrote: I kind of agree A) BH B) Holy C) idk D) probably your mum but that's a gut read E) ninjabunnies Gonna back up your read on me after just voting me as mayor? | ||
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2) i cared about the order of the first 3 groups hence why i set them out with you second. I thought ritoky group would be easy because ritoky was asking questions in right places (in regards to you talking about marv) and bh did weird entrance/bs being more weird. Your group i thought you were pretty towny so the group would be between bunnies and wade and one of those is not playing this game while playing another. Group D was smurfs and tambo and they were all mysteries bar not me. What tambo said rings true to me that nrhf could appear town day 1 to get a win for his cell so leaving him 3rd was better than first or second because he is most likely to fall off whereas the other reads are based more on facts. That left me to choose between marvs group and mine and like i said, my group is 50/50 from my mayor pov and one of the other people in my group stated correctly that his pm was town. Apparently though mm1 can be this non useful as town so maybe wave got told pm's by artanis in which case it doesn't matter. I'm also not very good at reading oats and amiko looked ok to me for a while which made marv a question mark but he's started to look more towny soooo here we are | ||
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On August 29 2014 08:19 Blazinghand wrote: Wow I'm not even like a cop or something because of this setup. Is this what the meta is now? Vote BH for literally no reason? My order was great, it's not my fault your heads are stuck so far up your own bums that you can see your own stomachs and therefore think my order wasn't literally the optimal order. At least you guys got the last 2 right. So who is the mafia? | ||
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Holyflare - read my filter and find what i think of his scummy ass. I don't see where you've done any of this ritoky | ||
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On August 29 2014 07:44 marvellosity wrote: I also refuse to believe, given MM1's propensity to look extremely scummy in every game that he's been in, you can have any confidence that he is mafia from what he posted so far. Holyflare For that to have any basis it means marv should have at least read mm1's games otherwise it's just a useless pile of poop. If you've read mm1's games you know it's not really the same at all | ||
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On August 29 2014 07:25 Holyflare wrote: It's like you're buzz lightyear. People know you are a toy because you are made of plastic and look like a toy. Even if you believe you are a space ranger sent to protect the planet from the evil emperor zerg. | ||
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On August 29 2014 14:25 WaveofShadow wrote: misguided adjective 1. misled; mistaken: Their naive actions were a misguided attempt to help the poor. Would you say BS is in some way mistaken in something he is doing? Dumb/weird/wtf is not misguided. Misguided is pushing a massive scum case on a towny as town. BS is not misguided. "you have no idea what I'm doing! " Super ultra secret batsnacks plan that only he knows about which will apparently help us win somehow if he's town which hasn't come into fruition at all. Seems like a naive action that is a misguided attempt to help the town to me. | ||
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On August 28 2014 08:51 Holyflare wrote: Hey wave are you vt? ![]() On August 28 2014 08:53 Holyflare wrote: Tick tock wave! On August 28 2014 08:54 Holyflare wrote: Your mafianess is increasing bro If that doesn't look like jest to you i have no idea what does. Also you say that i call you mafia but earlier you say you didn't even properly read that bit at all?? Are you now saying you've reread the thread? | ||
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On August 29 2014 14:30 WaveofShadow wrote: Seems like he's completely bullshitting to me. He's no rayn. And who uses bull shit.....? Mafia and misguided townies | ||
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2) i cared about the order of the first 3 groups hence why i set them out with you second. I thought ritoky group would be easy because ritoky was asking questions in right places (in regards to you talking about marv) and bh did weird entrance/bs being more weird. I think that it's pretty evident that the guy asking the right questions in a cell i put first because it should be easy would be my town read?? :s I know Amiko is a very good player and i haven't seen him play mafia but his style so far has looked like I've seen him play previously (although i think i said when i was coaching him his style would be easy to replicate as mafia i think?) I'm not too bothered seeing as he's last cell and has ample time to show his alignment | ||
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On August 29 2014 15:13 WaveofShadow wrote: lol in what world is what you said about amiko a good read? What are you afraid of HF? He's a good player so even if i think what he's done is borderline towny/null that doesn't mean anything till later because he is a good player. Not really hard. | ||
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I feel like your questions don't really lead to anything alignment indicative, especially as I'd already elaborated why i did the order i did. Is there something you were looking for? | ||
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On August 30 2014 04:46 Blazinghand wrote: bah it's like 48 hours of moving, what are the odds of it falling on 48 hours I absolutely MUST be active for? And you didn't care to mention this despite every order starting with A because? | ||
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On August 30 2014 05:04 Holyflare wrote: And you didn't care to mention this despite every order starting with A because? | ||
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On August 30 2014 06:09 ritoky wrote: ![]() oh, while i read here's this breakdown of current votes by cell. Have i gone colour blind or is this completely wrong? +disgusting to look at | ||
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On August 30 2014 06:15 ritoky wrote: ![]() IT HAS NOW BEEN FIXED! Bh isn't voting for himself | ||
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On August 30 2014 07:08 27ninjabunnies wrote: Since I put BH as my number 1 lynch? Geeze people. It's not that hard. read Why numbers instead of who is just mafia? You gave all the reasons for ritoky to be mafia but then sheeped (i don't even know who you're actually sheeping) onto BH. What reasoning did you actually agree with to say that BH is scummier than your own read? | ||
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Lilwade playing in 1 game over other. Said nothing ever. Unsubstantiated town and mafia read. Useless. One of them is being a useless town and i don't know which because 1 isn't playing. | ||
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On August 31 2014 01:29 27ninjabunnies wrote: Okay, so Im only here for like five minutes. I woke up late. And have to be at work in thirty mins. I'm hoping to be back before deadline. So thoughts n this cell. I actually like batsnacks. Definitely not lynch for today. Ritoky is growing on me as town. Blazinghand's thing about moving seems like BS. Eh, whatever. So##Unvote: Ritoky ##Vote: Blazinghand Hopefully be back before deadline! Let's kill some mafia! What the fuck is this awful post? | ||
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On August 31 2014 02:18 Professor Apathy wrote: Marv seriously, who the fuck says stuff like that after posting a spreadsheet. That's the most "don't mind me I only wanted to post something flashy with colors. It doesn't actually have anything to it" I've ever seen I might flip a coin on this one in 25 minutes Then he returns to complain that he tried ![]() | ||
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On August 31 2014 02:41 batsnacks wrote: @amiko If you don't understand why me, and others, voted BH then I won't be able to explain it to you. Sorry. Bunnies has been in the past more conversational as scum and less analytical. I voted BH at the beginning of the day because I thought ritoky and me were the towniest d1. I kept voting BH because there was no reason to switch. Where has bunnies been analytical in the slightest??? Also if you are town and are voting for yourself i won't hesitate to follow you up for a ban | ||
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On August 31 2014 02:49 batsnacks wrote: HF you are a drag. Do you actually play mafia because it's the only place in your life where people let you get away with calling them retards? Since i never mentioned that you were a retard i can only imagine that this is a self admittance of you playing terribly | ||
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On August 31 2014 03:21 batsnacks wrote: I'll take that as a yes. ![]() I sign up to play mafia. Not troll and be useless. BH has played for 5 seconds and said more useful things than you the entire game. Gz | ||
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On August 31 2014 04:23 batsnacks wrote: ![]() ![]() Why did you nrhf read switch with your mom but you've said nothing about them? Why has mm1 dropped from scummy by saying 0 words? Why is amiko still not green after you said you town read him? Not really holyflare: scum didn't make that mayor campaign. | ||
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On August 31 2014 04:41 ritoky wrote: he ain't talkin to me, so i will talk to hf cuz dis guy always responds. hf, what do you make of your mom's ninja vote? I wouldn't call it a ninja vote and it was based on solid reasoning (same reasoning i was on bh iirc, complaining post and not doing anything etc). He's really done nothing all game though himself and is just super lurking. If it was a that cell now I'd be voting him. | ||
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On August 31 2014 05:06 ritoky wrote: one of these days i hope you get over your policy lynching people you feel are idiots phase and actually care about winning. it will make you a more interesting player. I'd rather eradicate stupidity | ||
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He has posted 1 read on people that was based on 5 minutes of reading. Only 3+ hours from the lynch has he started updating this list (but why did he tell us not to listen to bh 3 hours before the lynch?) and even then it is grossly inconsistent from what he posted last time. Wouldn't even answer me when i pointed it out. | ||
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On September 01 2014 00:11 27ninjabunnies wrote: Yes. Because marv is pretty townie this game. I've seen many people sheep him in past games and marv was extremely right on his day 1 reads. It's not bad to sheep a good player. Seriously, why are you giving me crap for sheeping marv's vote? And this post doesn't even address what i said at all?? I said if marv isn't sure who was mafia after all why are YOU so sure that your vote was on mafia?? | ||
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In previous games I was super active, this game I'm not. I could blame irl reasons, but again, that wouldnt do much for you. You've also done this multiple times this game. Making excuses for inactivity. | ||
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On September 01 2014 00:19 marvellosity wrote: given the likelihood is that all i've done is push mafia and had zero interest in lynching the townie, i'd say i'm pretty town. You had zero interest in doing anything and wouldn't even indulge in anyone else being mafia let alone talk about it with people. Now you're not even sure if bh WAS mafia so really you put no effort into making sure you were right at all. You even shut down people when they tried to converse about things with you. | ||
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On September 01 2014 00:27 Professor Apathy wrote: I'm still Toad | ||
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On September 01 2014 05:20 MysteryMeat1 wrote: I think i'd probably go for bunnies as the mafia in this situation. I think professor apathy is town for voting on lil wade, and i'm not sure on how to read lilwade, but from the games that i've played with bunnies her play as town has definitely been different. If bunnies does flip mafia, then the chance that ritoky was scum over BH increases in my mind. I did sheep ritoky's reads because everyone was claiming that he was town, but rereading the thread i don't really see where all of that was coming from. ##Vote: 27NinjaBunnies So you sheeped ritoky but now when you look at it you probably shouldn't have. You sheeped him because everyone said he was town??? In a game with 5 mafia?? Also you don't know how to read lilwade so why does apathy get +points for voting him when you think bunnies is the mafia??? | ||
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On September 01 2014 06:42 27ninjabunnies wrote: Simba.... Wtf.... I thought what we had was special.... Also, because Marv was playing like Marv plays in his town games. Marv has really good reads in his town games. Therefore, sheepable marv. I thought we went over this HF? have you seen marv play mafia? when you sheeped him it was like RIGHT at the start of the day and he hadn't really done a single thing then | ||
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On September 01 2014 07:04 WaveofShadow wrote: I don't understand this thought process at all. it does if mm is mafia with bunnies because then he's all like "yeh if toad was mafia he could definitely make a case on mafia bunnies cz she's mafia" | ||
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On September 01 2014 07:13 27ninjabunnies wrote: @Simba, it's cause I love you. @HF- I'm pretty sure it wasn't at the beginning of the day. My vote was on Ritoky most of day 1. It wasn't until day 2 did I switch to BH. i called you out when you voted ritoky and you said your vote was a lie because you wanted to be coloured green and it was actually meant to be on BH, what bs are you pulling now? | ||
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On September 01 2014 07:04 Holyflare wrote: have you seen marv play mafia? when you sheeped him it was like RIGHT at the start of the day and he hadn't really done a single thing then On September 01 2014 07:13 27ninjabunnies wrote: @Simba, it's cause I love you. @HF- I'm pretty sure it wasn't at the beginning of the day. My vote was on Ritoky most of day 1. It wasn't until day 2 did I switch to BH. On September 01 2014 07:18 27ninjabunnies wrote: HF- I put ritoky as second, yes. And BH as first. I also said I want to be green on ritoky's spreadsheet. But I still don't get what that has to do anything? I was trolling. Everyone does it marv doesn't look towny at start of day, you sheep marv at start of day you say you weren't voting bh day 1 as if it meant like you weren't sheeping him when he didn't look towny but that was in fact a lie | ||
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On September 01 2014 08:28 Amiko wrote: Also, her d1 did discuss finding ritoky scummy even if the vote was suggested as joking yes but apparently that ended up being "wrong" and her vote was a joke | ||
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On September 01 2014 16:37 MysteryMeat1 wrote: Im just wary that we know at least one mafia is voting on their partner. I dont like wades recent response but i still bunnies is pretty scummy. As for voting only in this thread, i just forgot. I find ot funny that both you and hf think im scum Slip??? Bunnies could be town dumbo | ||
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he's capable of actual analysis as mafia so to have none here and do shit all kind of indicates that he got thrown in the deep end and couldnt play mafia twice | ||
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![]() why can 1 town person just not step up in each of these 50/50's???? | ||
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because once you get modkilled from a game (and i know he was around and still got modkilled from newbie) you can focus on the other one. He's not posted any reason to afk, he just comes back in to settle the people against him with a vote and back to lurking again. I'd expect if he was town he'd just be like "sorry i was mafia in another game and more interested in winning there" and then post some kind of basic analysis or anything or say he's reading but the maintained lurk while present means he's literally just avoiding posting on purpose | ||
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On September 02 2014 02:13 marvellosity wrote: i'd also expect if he were mafia to at least pretend to do some analysis i wouldn't think so if he was mafia twice | ||
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On September 02 2014 02:19 WaveofShadow wrote: Sometimes I find that there is a massive disconnect with you between what you expect people to do and what actually happens in reality. I honestly don't really think I can come up with any particular narrative that makes sense to me realistically---half the time when people lurk and/or don't play the game it's for no particular reason at all and based on his earlier posting I feel like this is most likely the case. Non-alignment indicative. i really don't think so... let's say he's mafia in both games, in one game he puts all his effort into it but he lurks/posts some analysis because hes invested in that one but he clearly hasn't read this one at all so only comes back to appease people with nothingness and a vote to not get modkilled he is quite literally (and I know this for a fact) present a lot of the time but not posting here at all and didn't post in the newbie despite being here. Who does that? Mafia does that because they want to hide and not do anything. Now let's say he's town here and invested in one game as mafia but not the town one, why would he be present but still hiding? Why would he not just post anything about being busy or invested in the other game? Why hide everything and just return to stop yourself getting modkilled when your name is called out? He's dead in that game so at least he has no reason to hide here at all? | ||
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On September 02 2014 02:23 27ninjabunnies wrote: Sure, I'll actually do that for the rest of the cells. A- I think this cell was BH E- Lilwade- he's not participating, leaves random comments. Idk. PA has a better tr and I'm town, so POE. D- For this cell, IDK tbh. I don't really remember either YM or NRHF. I remember you though. Your first post was pretty godly. B- HF questioning of me is super weird. But MM1 has been leaving ridiculous posts too. Late voting, ritoky sheeping, then his "I have a gut read on bunnies but screw it, let's vote off Lilwade" post was super super scummy. Then again, MM gets mislynched quite often, but he would be my number 1, followed by HF. C- I already said I have a tr on Marv. People think he's been scummy by people I mean HF, but I guess I just have a different read than HF does. I really like Amiko, too. His questioning this game has been fantastic! So I'd go for Oats in this cell. what is this crap? why is it weird? I questioned you and you lied about your vote on BH/ritoky and then you actually agreed with what i pointed out with you in regards to lilwade weird???? | ||
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On September 02 2014 02:27 WaveofShadow wrote: I'm almost certain I've seen one of gumshoe/Onegu do this and not be scum. No proof but whatever. Your out-of-game methods for scumcatching are ridiculously out of hand lately and not based on reality. gumshoe did it by coming on ts when he was town instead of posting but that's because he got flamed a lot | ||
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On September 01 2014 07:32 Holyflare wrote: marv doesn't look towny at start of day, you sheep marv at start of day you say you weren't voting bh day 1 as if it meant like you weren't sheeping him when he didn't look towny but that was in fact a lie so if it was a joke vote and you really were meaning to vote on BH by sheeping marv then what you said here WAS a lie | ||
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1. You want to vote BH because marv said so and you have a super town read on marv (before he looked towny because this was at the start of the day) 2. You joke vote ritoky 3. You vote BH 3. I say you sheeped marv at start of the day when he didn't look towny but then you defend yourself by saying "no i didnt sheep him then because my vote was on ritoky" 4. You use your joke vote as a defence for sheeping a not so towny looking marv but phrase it in a way that it didn't seem like a joke vote | ||
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On September 02 2014 02:41 Professor Apathy wrote: I'd feel a lot better about voting lilwade if there weren't so many shady people voting him ![]() that's what i felt when i was voting bunnies too | ||
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On September 02 2014 03:09 WaveofShadow wrote: Where is fake holyflare? His totality of D2 posting has been absolutely horrible, mostly basing his apparent current dump vote on bunnies on weird meta shit. Did no one else pick up on this? yes but he isn't being voted on today | ||
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On September 02 2014 03:29 27ninjabunnies wrote: That honestly bugs me too. I pointed it out earlier. It makes me wonder if he is trying to get a mislynch just on anyone? Then why wouldn't he just vote you? How does that make any sense to you lol | ||
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and now that I think back to it this is very likely a slip from you and coupled with the fact that you scum read bunnies but didn't vote her and then really really really easily voted on wade when the wagon was already on him despite your scum read on bunnies i'd say it's pretty obvious that you're mafia i can't wait for people to defend you with useless points like "mm is always scummy when he plays town" though because that would be the dumbest shit i've ever heard right now | ||
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On September 03 2014 07:55 MysteryMeat1 wrote: are you actually a dumbass HF? If all people from the cell vote for bunnies, or course one mafia is voting on their partner. The fact is bunnies was probably mafia, as no one voted for apathy. Either we just got rolled or bunnies was mafia. Same thing with ritoky. You also did the same thing iirc, you voted on your partner and then used some dumb excuse to switch your vote to a town no no no no no no no no no no no EVERYONE was on bunnies when you posted this slip.... wade hadn't flipped town yet THERE WAS NO POSSIBLE WAY TO KNOW THAT BUNNIES WAS MAFIA AT THIS POINT | ||
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On September 01 2014 05:20 MysteryMeat1 wrote: I think i'd probably go for bunnies as the mafia in this situation. I think professor apathy is town for voting on lil wade, and i'm not sure on how to read lilwade, but from the games that i've played with bunnies her play as town has definitely been different. If bunnies does flip mafia, then the chance that ritoky was scum over BH increases in my mind. I did sheep ritoky's reads because everyone was claiming that he was town, but rereading the thread i don't really see where all of that was coming from. ##Vote: 27NinjaBunnies On September 01 2014 06:56 MysteryMeat1 wrote: Also reading back on bunnies filter it seemed like she was like oh, i know ritoky is mafia, im going to vote on him to get me some points later. Oh everyone thinks hes town? time to vote for someone else. Thats how i interpreted that response On September 01 2014 07:01 MysteryMeat1 wrote: I just think your playing different then how you played in our first game together, granted that it was like 3 months ago On September 01 2014 07:04 MysteryMeat1 wrote: I think your scum vOv, you also tried to first appeal to my emotions, which i don't think you would usually do lots of super scum reads on bunnies, so many scum reads! Wagon atm: Bunnies .....vote now on: bunnies On September 01 2014 11:36 MysteryMeat1 wrote: I'm rethinking my position on bunnies, Like you noted above, bunnies does vote for BH over BSnacks, at a time when the votes were pretty close. ^^^^ toad case THAT ALSO RELATES TO LILWADE WTF WADE ALSO VOTES BH OVER BSNACKS so bs reason to switch. Current wagon at time: bunnies with sentiment to wade ..... current vote: bunnies On September 01 2014 16:37 MysteryMeat1 wrote: Im just wary that we know at least one mafia is voting on their partner. I dont like wades recent response but i still bunnies is pretty scummy. As for voting only in this thread, i just forgot. I find ot funny that both you and hf think im scum current wagon: just onto lilwade now On September 02 2014 01:49 MysteryMeat1 wrote: Going to work and i probably wont be able to check my phone. Gonna stick to my gut read on bunnies T.T On September 02 2014 01:50 MysteryMeat1 wrote: Ah screw it lilwade it is current wagon: lilwade.... current vote: now conveniently lilwade so he spends all this time on bunnies but then the wagon switches to town lilwade and all his scum reads totally fall out of the window and his reason to switch is apathy's convincing case which applied to wade too, then WITH 5 MINUTES TO GO SWITCHES BACK TO BUNNIES????????? Not only that but in the post that I keep referring to as the slip he says "i'm wary because mafia are voting their partner" when 3 people in our cell were voting bunnies. The wagon was on bunnies at this time and lilwade hadn't flipped town yet so there is absolutely NO way that anyone knows if mafia are voting for their partner or for a towny. He should have been EVEN MORE WARY when the wagon speedy went to unanimous wade but he WAS NOT AT ALL. He also tries to justify his calling bunnies mafia before wade even flipped town here: On September 03 2014 07:55 MysteryMeat1 wrote: are you actually a dumbass HF? If all people from the cell vote for bunnies, or course one mafia is voting on their partner. The fact is bunnies was probably mafia, as no one voted for apathy. Either we just got rolled or bunnies was mafia. Same thing with ritoky. You also did the same thing iirc, you voted on your partner and then used some dumb excuse to switch your vote to a town When you piece together the above with: On September 01 2014 07:06 MysteryMeat1 wrote: The only thing im scared about atm, is that HF is also trying to bury you and i think he could be mafia in my group. Due to the fact that he's been saying that everything i've said is scummy since my intro post. If you see someone trying to question the hell out of your scum read then why would this be questionable at all??? If he has a town read on wave, like I did, then who else does he think I would be calling scum in our group? Some magical non-being? Either way, wade flips town, mm1 doesn't even rethink over this read at all but instead says "hm that guy who tried to bury probable MAFIA must also be MAFIA with her". No. Who does that?! Instead, out of the blue it's: On September 03 2014 07:24 MysteryMeat1 wrote: I just hope we lynch correctly today so we can lynch HF tomorrow kkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkk also, sarcastic comments about how this day is productive but then afking, + other tidbits which i cba to talk about | ||
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On September 03 2014 09:37 WaveofShadow wrote: Ok here's the post? I guess if you take the first sentence and ignore mindset then yes, you're right. Except he also says it's because you've been calling him scum since the beginning of the game (which you were...though I think I was too lol), and there's that 'noob omgus' aura that MM1 seems to exude (though I don't and can't take that into account). Fuck I actually though my cell was gonna be hard because I was going to have to scream and yell at HF Let's go, input from other people on this. I don't think I have any idea who anyone else thinks is scum from our group. Even Toad's final reads post didn't conclusively finger anyone (though he put HF as lowest I think)? he even acknowledges you have also been calling him scum in his slip post On September 01 2014 16:37 MysteryMeat1 wrote: Im just wary that we know at least one mafia is voting on their partner. I dont like wades recent response but i still bunnies is pretty scummy. As for voting only in this thread, i just forgot. I find ot funny that both you and hf think im scum | ||
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On September 03 2014 15:43 Oatsmaster wrote: Its a town tell. scum are fine sitting on a mislynch The opposite because only scum feel the need to switch their votes onto a different wagon when it is already unanimous 5 minutes before deadline when it has absolutely 0 effect | ||
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On September 03 2014 18:59 Oatsmaster wrote: nah its dumb for scum to do that, why would they intentionally draw attention to themselves? He clearly got 0 attention drawn to himself if I've only brought it up 2 days later | ||
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MM1 re-read the thread after sheeping ritoky and said that he had no idea why people town read ritoky On September 01 2014 06:56 MysteryMeat1 wrote: Also reading back on bunnies filter it seemed like she was like oh, i know ritoky is mafia, im going to vote on him to get me some points later. Oh everyone thinks hes town? time to vote for someone else. Thats how i interpreted that response used it to scum read bunnies too but then uses BH being apparent scum to unscumread her and switch to wade | ||
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and no i'm absolutely not buying that you "thought bunnies was mafia so said partner", that's complete crap! obviously one mafia is voting on bunnies but that's not what i'm saying is the slip partner partner partner partner | ||
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On September 03 2014 07:55 MysteryMeat1 wrote: are you actually a dumbass HF? If all people from the cell vote for bunnies, or course one mafia is voting on their partner. The fact is bunnies was probably mafia, as no one voted for apathy. Either we just got rolled or bunnies was mafia. Same thing with ritoky. You also did the same thing iirc, you voted on your partner and then used some dumb excuse to switch your vote to a town you also never said that yesterday, what you just wrote is completely different from this! ^^^^ in this post you retroactively say it like it was after wade flipped town so obviously bunnies was mafia but now you have changed your story | ||
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On September 04 2014 18:38 Oatsmaster wrote: by ppl you mean me and amiko? cause thats all thats gonna be left if we somehow lynch hf today. Nobody will be left if you lynch me today | ||
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On September 04 2014 20:31 Oatsmaster wrote: non of it was wrong though. Right = town. I DONT CARE WHAT YOU SAY. yes so therefore voting me = wrong wrong = mafia? | ||
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On September 02 2014 00:55 Oatsmaster wrote: smurf holyflare scummy behaviour trying to show that lilwade is townie by linking to the newbie game. sheep marv incom. ^^^ that was all you said (marv wasn't even voting for your mum at this point either) and for some reason you said smurf me was scummy but then sheeped someone who said he wasn't really caught up and doesn't really look particularly towny this game?? now you're pushing the biggest mafia agenda by trying to vote me off | ||
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a) he was in my cell so wanted to make it a sure lynch b) i did it to him last game but last game the role pm was in the op and here it wasn't he took too long to respond and i didn't ask it to anyone else because they would ruin it for wave as he could just copy them (he ruined it for everyone else anyway) | ||
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On September 04 2014 20:40 Holyflare wrote: 3rd cell* the second cell you just said they were both scummy and did nothing can't make this any more evident for you | ||
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Also, you're calling me scummy from switching from bunnies to wade when you did a 10x worse version of it???? | ||
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On September 05 2014 06:50 MysteryMeat1 wrote: so you are also scum reading Marv? only marv agreed with it, yet you blatantly exaggerated your claim, to throw additional scum on me Amiko literally said he agreed with most of it just a few posts ago and wave certainly did. Like i just said last page..... | ||
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On August 29 2014 14:25 Holyflare wrote: If you think my comment about you being mafia was anything but a joke earlier you crazy mofo. Amiko defending wasn't the same as marv's because he was just pointing it out as a devil's advocate kind of thing. Marv used it to drive suspicion onto me without seemingly reading the games (although later took it back). Right here you scummy mofo. What happened to reading wave? | ||
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On September 05 2014 07:00 Holyflare wrote: So literally your entire post is based on nothing. Not to mention you bitch and moan about me scum reading you since day 1 against wave when you weren't even fucking playing for 2 cycles straight. You think i magically can tell the difference in alignment bwtween someone playing and someone not playing or something? This still applies. Should i have town read you over wave when he made a few pages of posts and you had made like 4 useless ones? | ||
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Also, I really didn't do that i have no idea what game you are playing in or reading. I even made a big post of why i did the order i did with all my mafia reads (all of my solid town reads were most likely correct) so in all of the 50/50's i singled out mafia. Then batsnacks i said was most likely town and then he refused to actually play any of the game while BH was posting case on bunnies and others. So i picked the guy who was playing anti town (he even voted for himself ffs). The next cell i saw wade posting in his newbie where he was mafia instead of here and i knew he was around and not posting in this game on purpose and bunnies just looked scummy but then it's who to lynch between someone who is looking scummy and posting or someone who is literally afking on purpose and not posting so i voted for the useless one. I was second to vote on your mum, although that doesn't really matter and i tried to figure out the smurf and as soon as i found out it waa haru the group was easy (i had to make sure). Now here you are pushing the worst agenda possible and wave isn't really doing much so it's fucking hard to choose again because you aren't reading the thread properly and did weird things like the bunny switch which meant nothing but trying to look good (there is no reason to switch when it's unanimous unless you want to change a wagon which you aren't doing 5 mins before deadline) you also didn't play for 2 cycles and you scum read the probable mafia but didn't ever push it for a lynxh and went straight for wade when possible. There's also wave that hasn't really pushed anything in this game ever. It's bugging me. That's why pushing me over any of you two when I'm actively indecisive and clueless and trying to figure things out is the biggest mafia agenda of all | ||
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On September 05 2014 07:22 WaveofShadow wrote: Hold on a second. Are you referring to me here? Yes | ||
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On September 05 2014 07:27 WaveofShadow wrote: Then there's a problem. If that whole trap was a joke why do you refer to it multiple times throughout your filter, subtly saying stuff like 'well wave could totes still be scum' ? You do it in a way that's not quite calling me scum, and you just did it recently as well saying I could be scum with oats without offering any rationale. (can't link stuff at, on phone) You really aren't reading. He's saying i scum read you because of the trap. I said the scum reading thing was a joke. | ||
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On September 05 2014 07:29 WaveofShadow wrote: And lol you literally just did it again in the post above. So somehow the fact that you're indecisive makes you town and when I haven't pushed stuff hard this game (let me give you a hint, the last few games I did that I was scum bussing like fucking crazy) and also can't decide between you two, I might be scummy for that as well? Uh uh. Hard? You haven't pushed anything. | ||
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On September 05 2014 07:30 WaveofShadow wrote: And I don't honestly see how it was when you continually bring it up just short of all in me scum for it. Where do i constantly bring it up? I made a trap, you took ages to respond so the trap doesn't mean anything. Me airing my thoughts about it doesn't make it any more or less scummy. | ||
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On September 05 2014 07:14 Artanis[Xp] wrote: Day 5 Vote count: MysteryMeat1 (1): Holyflare to vote here. Yes wave gtfo | ||
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On September 05 2014 07:33 MysteryMeat1 wrote: i'm saying you scumread me because of the trap... I scum read you because you didn't play for 2 cycles and wave did. | ||
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On August 29 2014 07:41 Holyflare wrote: You didn't post enough for me to get a read on you to put you before me. Wave fell into the trap thing about being a vt/town and answered correctly and mm1 has done nothing but support tambo out of the blue and afk. I think my cell is pretty open and shut I put way more emphasis on you being useless than i do wave answering correctly. | ||
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On August 28 2014 19:48 Holyflare wrote: Also mm is that really all you're going to say and then you just leave? Totally different opening from any of your games and 0 content. Pretty sure you're the mafia after all. | ||
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On August 29 2014 07:48 Holyflare wrote: I haven't looked at mm1's games but if you can really look at the filter and say that's even town like then good for you. I AM wary of wave for taking so long to answer but he replied that his pm was town which was correct so is already infinitely ahead of what mm1 has done so far. My group is 4th so it gives me time to see if wave took too lomg to answer because je was waiting for artanis to tell him what our pm's said or if he was just afk. | ||
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On September 05 2014 07:39 WaveofShadow wrote: Oh I actually meant to ask. If you're going to go off of meta constantly then at least answer this. What do the rest of mm1s games look like, after the opening? Don't really remember, i remember telling you vaguely but i could be wrong. It was something about analysis. | ||
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"i like that you haven't jumped on a side yet" "i think mafia would let us bicker" ....? | ||
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On September 05 2014 08:25 WaveofShadow wrote: Yeah me and the rest of the game apparently. And how is mm1 wrong BTW? Like why the fuck would i as scum insert myself into what would have to be two Townes at each others throats, and on top of that ask you to read me? I truly don't like the fact that you say me being indecisive is somehow scummy and yet not only do you call yourself indecisive (and then point out that you've voted), but the rest of the thread hasn't decided on anything either. Just shit flinging. Amiko is asking questions to decide. Mm1 is filter diving. I'm filter diving. Oats made some decision and marv is afk. You are.....? You aren't asking questions, you reiterate points that I've made. E.g; "yeh i dont like that last switch from mm1!" "yeh hf you used that trap thing a lot" There's no original thought and nothing to indicate at you being indecisive other than sitting back and waiting for a wagon to start | ||
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On September 05 2014 07:23 Holyflare wrote: I'm not refusing to read marv. He literally hasn't played the game and he's been on most likely mafia and tried to push that wagon. What else is there to say about him?? I've said a lot about why oats is scummy so why are you pushing this marv thing over and over again? Also, I really didn't do that i have no idea what game you are playing in or reading. I even made a big post of why i did the order i did with all my mafia reads (all of my solid town reads were most likely correct) so in all of the 50/50's i singled out mafia. Then batsnacks i said was most likely town and then he refused to actually play any of the game while BH was posting case on bunnies and others. So i picked the guy who was playing anti town (he even voted for himself ffs). The next cell i saw wade posting in his newbie where he was mafia instead of here and i knew he was around and not posting in this game on purpose and bunnies just looked scummy but then it's who to lynch between someone who is looking scummy and posting or someone who is literally afking on purpose and not posting so i voted for the useless one. I was second to vote on your mum, although that doesn't really matter and i tried to figure out the smurf and as soon as i found out it waa haru the group was easy (i had to make sure). Now here you are pushing the worst agenda possible and wave isn't really doing much so it's fucking hard to choose again because you aren't reading the thread properly and did weird things like the bunny switch which meant nothing but trying to look good (there is no reason to switch when it's unanimous unless you want to change a wagon which you aren't doing 5 mins before deadline) you also didn't play for 2 cycles and you scum read the probable mafia but didn't ever push it for a lynxh and went straight for wade when possible. There's also wave that hasn't really pushed anything in this game ever. It's bugging me. That's why pushing me over any of you two when I'm actively indecisive and clueless and trying to figure things out is the biggest mafia agenda of all This is my games thought process, it's pretty straightforward | ||
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/m12 for proof Anyway what bad meta analysis? If you are town then my meta analysis is correct? | ||
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You haven't even read mm1's games because it's night and day when i posted it (this was before he made some pax excuse so i dropped it after) | ||
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On September 05 2014 09:01 WaveofShadow wrote: How does that make more sense than the opposite, being you being scum trying to set up a possible mislynch on me for apparent scummy things I've done? Because either scenario seems likely to me, though I liked MM1s recent analysis more. On that note if he's scum with TMI pointing out towny things I've done, why are you seemingly disagreeing with him? My phones gonna die Be back in 2h ish I've already disproved all of his analysis on me as wrong and so he was literally saying i was scum and then picking out posta that fit with that picture and he even couldn't be bothered to find anything else that was scummy. So the only real analysis he has done that HAS been correct is apparently on you which is scummy as fuck. Bad case for his mafia target which shows lack of reading and context and thought Analysis on someone being town that isn't awful and false Those 2 things fit into a mafia narrative, albeit also someone being terrible at reading. I want to see you do something though. | ||
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On September 05 2014 08:57 WaveofShadow wrote: If you dropped it then how is it good? And if all your meta analysis is right and you're scum reading me now then something has to give. I misread this. The meta doesn't matter for a scum read on mm1 because of the pax excuse | ||
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On that note if he's scum with TMI pointing out towny things I've done, why are you seemingly disagreeing with him? I don't think this is too hard for you to answer yourself. Who pays most attention to the scummy things when trying to find mafia in a cell and who pays most attention to stuff that makes you "too towny"? Also the fact that none of the things he mentions i give any town credit for most probably | ||
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The fact you hhate me so much and are angry probably hints at you being mafia. Especially as you're bringing up points a towny wouldn't (cheating, meta read when I'm not even using it, anger, etc) | ||
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It would be different if i used this to 100% waves alignment but the fact is it didn't really mean shit at the end of the day and nothing I'm pushing relates to that at all. So why are you bringing it up like it does?? It's because you are mafia and trying to add anything you can onto me. | ||
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My only alternative is then wave because you literally did shit all. Then you make some ridiculous bs case on me that relies on me calling you scum for doing scummy things. "hf called me scum after the trap!" (even though I didn't say shit or do shit or even comment on anything!) "hf hasn't stopped calling me scum!" (even though everything i did since the game start hasn't really been towny looking!) "hf has been on towny lynches! " (even though almost everyone alive was too) Brackets are your real thoughts. If you town read wave so much for so long why am i scummy for calling you scum for so long??? Surely I've been correct in my accusations. Also no idea wtf oats is doing. Useless scummy person. | ||
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On September 05 2014 17:44 MysteryMeat1 wrote: i just usually hit f5 but now that you mention it, i didnt realize bookmarking was preferred over refreshing My phone doesn't have f5 that's the point | ||
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Marv is literally afk I've already explained this. It doesn't mean anything. | ||
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Also mm, you should point out towny things because i don't see any that exist before today. If literally almost everyone in this game is reading you as mafia you should be saying why you are towny so you don't get lynched. You aren't. | ||
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If 3 people agreed with it and there's 2 mafia then 4 people think it's scummy so either 2 townies think you're scummy or 2 townies are dropping the ball somehow which i don't really think is the case at all. | ||
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On September 05 2014 20:00 MysteryMeat1 wrote: this game has proven it to be false, since most of the people in the end scum read both BS and lilwade This is why i feel like you're so god damn disconnected. Everyone. Literally EVERYONE scum read bunnies. The only reason lilwade got voted was because he literally did not play this game AT ALL and was the biggest liability in this game of all time. If he had I'm sure bunnies would have got lynched. Town is on the ball but people play like a waste of space so we lynch them. | ||
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On September 05 2014 20:21 marvellosity wrote: was i town or mafia? Showdown is the one i got modkilled in and you didn't play in and koshi wasn't in it | ||
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On September 06 2014 03:29 Holyflare wrote: Like they haven't said it already???? You literally just have to read the thread instead of this boo hoo i lose crap. If you're town you literally have to spend your last few hours showing people why wave is mafia This is your only out right now | ||
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Real answer is no you didn't | ||
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On September 10 2014 03:28 Artanis[Xp] wrote: Having two votes for each day might make things a bit annoying though. A lot of discussion would also be circumvented to which cell goes up next which would take away time from scumhunting. It's possible but I'd probably need to extend the days to 72 hours. just have a night vote | ||
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