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On August 12 2014 11:42 WaveofShadow wrote:Show nested quote +On August 12 2014 11:40 goodkarma wrote:On August 12 2014 11:39 WaveofShadow wrote:On August 12 2014 11:37 goodkarma wrote:
You do realize that Eden's pretty tryhard as scum too right? Like that's a super-stupid metric. The guy can make ridiculously long and pointless posts as scum. Can post for pages and pages. Look at his scumgame filter.
I'm sheeping HF and all town should too. Especially compelling reason: I'm town so if you don't we're sure to lose. Where's his scumgame. Put in some fucking EFFORT GK if you don't want this to be Les Mafia all over again It already is Les Mafia. Only difference is I gave you guys a method to consolidate this time, and you couldn't be fucking bothered to consider it. No, you gave us an ultimatum based on fucking NOTHING. All people have done this game is sheep townies on stupid shit, and look where it has gotten us. HF's one fucking line on Eden is no exception. If you force the town to policy lynch you then the game is on YOUR head, no matter how self-righteous you get about this. Back the fuck off, and use your brain.
If you give me some super-compelling case that person X is scum of course I'll consider it. To be honest tho I have way more faith in HF than anyone still in the game.
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On August 12 2014 11:41 goodkarma wrote:
It's in the TL Database. You know where it is you already brought it up once this game.
LOL
I took a fucking 1 min glimpse at that game and Eden already looks townier in this one for it.
Find me even CLOSE to the percentage of tryhard posts in that game versus this one.
Eden in this game is WAY less uptight. It's pretty obvious actually.
I can't tell if I want to vote you now or just assume you're both town and move on to Haru.
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The stronger argument for my innocence isn't merely that the effort:payout doesn't make sense, it's the opportunity cost on top of it. As scum I could have not changed anything up and been similarly unquestioned without attracting Holyflare's ire. Considering that's (apparently?) the only reason that you're starting to mull it over now, I would submit that the strategy is plainly suboptimal. You're right that I'm not "confirmed" town but I really do think if I were in your shoes I would be hardcore townreading me and riding that to the end at this point.
And considering Holyflare didn't scumread me at all before the night phase I think we can at least divine that his scumread on me comes from something I did during the night. Which is... push on him, mainly. Maybe that's it? It's my main theory at the moment, although I have a fun pet theory I just came up with:
This is also an incredibly convenient explanation for me but it's something not beyond Holyflare's capacity and supported by his actions at the end when he finally did decide to post: What if Holyflare's "scumread" on me is fake? Notice how he spent the entirety of EoN arguing with Haru and trying to make some final arguments for him being scum, then he says "kill Haru tomorrow 100%." and then throws in a last-second "kill Eden  ". The context makes it pretty clear that Haru was his primary scumread, not me. Holyflare has also been intermittently pushing Haru the whole game, and until that post (from what I recall) never outright scumread me. He wanted to on a couple of earlier occasions where I was on his case with kush, but he never did, the way he addressed me was clearly as though I were a townie. I'll go dig up the post(s) that gave me that impression if needed (but not right now leaving for trivia).
Might end up x-posting but what are your thoughts on goodkarma ignoring Holyflare's actual final wishes to vote for me? And the case he made in trying to double down on it?
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On August 12 2014 11:43 goodkarma wrote:Show nested quote +On August 12 2014 11:42 WaveofShadow wrote:On August 12 2014 11:40 goodkarma wrote:On August 12 2014 11:39 WaveofShadow wrote:On August 12 2014 11:37 goodkarma wrote:
You do realize that Eden's pretty tryhard as scum too right? Like that's a super-stupid metric. The guy can make ridiculously long and pointless posts as scum. Can post for pages and pages. Look at his scumgame filter.
I'm sheeping HF and all town should too. Especially compelling reason: I'm town so if you don't we're sure to lose. Where's his scumgame. Put in some fucking EFFORT GK if you don't want this to be Les Mafia all over again It already is Les Mafia. Only difference is I gave you guys a method to consolidate this time, and you couldn't be fucking bothered to consider it. No, you gave us an ultimatum based on fucking NOTHING. All people have done this game is sheep townies on stupid shit, and look where it has gotten us. HF's one fucking line on Eden is no exception. If you force the town to policy lynch you then the game is on YOUR head, no matter how self-righteous you get about this. Back the fuck off, and use your brain. If you give me some super-compelling case that person X is scum of course I'll consider it. To be honest tho I have way more faith in HF than anyone still in the game.
Then if you have faith in HF WHY AREN'T YOU VOTING HARU LIKE HE FUCKING ASKED
And for that matter why didn't you respond when called out about this earlier?
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goodkarma returns, ignores all questions related to not following HF's wishes as he said.
Pretty much positive we caught two mafia right here.
God bless America gogo trivia yay! be back in a few hrs
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On August 12 2014 11:46 Eden1892 wrote:The stronger argument for my innocence isn't merely that the effort:payout doesn't make sense, it's the opportunity cost on top of it. As scum I could have not changed anything up and been similarly unquestioned without attracting Holyflare's ire. Considering that's (apparently?) the only reason that you're starting to mull it over now, I would submit that the strategy is plainly suboptimal. You're right that I'm not "confirmed" town but I really do think if I were in your shoes I would be hardcore townreading me and riding that to the end at this point. And considering Holyflare didn't scumread me at all before the night phase I think we can at least divine that his scumread on me comes from something I did during the night. Which is... push on him, mainly. Maybe that's it? It's my main theory at the moment, although I have a fun pet theory I just came up with:
This is also an incredibly convenient explanation for me but it's something not beyond Holyflare's capacity and supported by his actions at the end when he finally did decide to post: What if Holyflare's "scumread" on me is fake? Notice how he spent the entirety of EoN arguing with Haru and trying to make some final arguments for him being scum, then he says "kill Haru tomorrow 100%." and then throws in a last-second "kill Eden ". The context makes it pretty clear that Haru was his primary scumread, not me. Holyflare has also been intermittently pushing Haru the whole game, and until that post (from what I recall) never outright scumread me. He wanted to on a couple of earlier occasions where I was on his case with kush, but he never did, the way he addressed me was clearly as though I were a townie. I'll go dig up the post(s) that gave me that impression if needed (but not right now leaving for trivia).Might end up x-posting but what are your thoughts on goodkarma ignoring Holyflare's actual final wishes to vote for me? And the case he made in trying to double down on it?
The bolded is what I assumed he was doing last night and told him to fucking stop, but then why throw it out right before he dies? That is not something you troll town with. Surely you realize that.
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On August 12 2014 11:46 WaveofShadow wrote:Show nested quote +On August 12 2014 11:43 goodkarma wrote:On August 12 2014 11:42 WaveofShadow wrote:On August 12 2014 11:40 goodkarma wrote:On August 12 2014 11:39 WaveofShadow wrote:On August 12 2014 11:37 goodkarma wrote:
You do realize that Eden's pretty tryhard as scum too right? Like that's a super-stupid metric. The guy can make ridiculously long and pointless posts as scum. Can post for pages and pages. Look at his scumgame filter.
I'm sheeping HF and all town should too. Especially compelling reason: I'm town so if you don't we're sure to lose. Where's his scumgame. Put in some fucking EFFORT GK if you don't want this to be Les Mafia all over again It already is Les Mafia. Only difference is I gave you guys a method to consolidate this time, and you couldn't be fucking bothered to consider it. No, you gave us an ultimatum based on fucking NOTHING. All people have done this game is sheep townies on stupid shit, and look where it has gotten us. HF's one fucking line on Eden is no exception. If you force the town to policy lynch you then the game is on YOUR head, no matter how self-righteous you get about this. Back the fuck off, and use your brain. If you give me some super-compelling case that person X is scum of course I'll consider it. To be honest tho I have way more faith in HF than anyone still in the game. Then if you have faith in HF WHY AREN'T YOU VOTING HARU LIKE HE FUCKING ASKED And for that matter why didn't you respond when called out about this earlier?
Where did he ask to vote Haru? His deathpost says Eden's mafia.
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Oh right before that post my bad. Kinda contradictory.
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On August 12 2014 11:40 goodkarma wrote:Show nested quote +On August 12 2014 11:39 WaveofShadow wrote:On August 12 2014 11:37 goodkarma wrote:
You do realize that Eden's pretty tryhard as scum too right? Like that's a super-stupid metric. The guy can make ridiculously long and pointless posts as scum. Can post for pages and pages. Look at his scumgame filter.
I'm sheeping HF and all town should too. Especially compelling reason: I'm town so if you don't we're sure to lose. Where's his scumgame. Put in some fucking EFFORT GK if you don't want this to be Les Mafia all over again It already is Les Mafia. Only difference is I gave you guys a method to consolidate this time, and you couldn't be fucking bothered to consider it.
I considered it and my conclusion is that you're scum.
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You're right that a part of why I want to kill Eden is I'm pissed with him right now. There's literally no reason to post 33 pages of drivel in a game. Given he padded his filter with tons of meaningless shit, I don't think his filter length is an indicator he's town.
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On August 12 2014 11:55 gobbledydook wrote:Show nested quote +On August 12 2014 11:40 goodkarma wrote:On August 12 2014 11:39 WaveofShadow wrote:On August 12 2014 11:37 goodkarma wrote:
You do realize that Eden's pretty tryhard as scum too right? Like that's a super-stupid metric. The guy can make ridiculously long and pointless posts as scum. Can post for pages and pages. Look at his scumgame filter.
I'm sheeping HF and all town should too. Especially compelling reason: I'm town so if you don't we're sure to lose. Where's his scumgame. Put in some fucking EFFORT GK if you don't want this to be Les Mafia all over again It already is Les Mafia. Only difference is I gave you guys a method to consolidate this time, and you couldn't be fucking bothered to consider it. I considered it and my conclusion is that you're scum.
A statement with no reasoning. Super helpful...
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*Spams F5*
@Wave, the only remotely reasonable guy in thread:
Tell me then if you're not dead set on me or Eden why is Haru a sure bet? Wow me.
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I don't even need to.
Guy has done absolutely dick all the entire game.
I don't even remember what my case on him D1 said but I bet it still stands.
Marv's townread of him was shit.
He had ONE period where his posts looked super towny at some point yesterday, but then he fucked off and did nothing again.
GK, you don't get off the hook here.
First of all I know I told you to back down, but now that you are I've decided it looks shitty to me.
On August 12 2014 11:53 goodkarma wrote:
Oh right before that post my bad. Kinda contradictory.
Are you honestly telling me you didn't see that?
Second of all,
@Wave, the only remotely reasonable guy in thread:
blatant buddying. Not in the mood to be buddied right now since I can't even trust Eden anymore.
And I just remembered, what about JAT? What has that guy done the entire game?
Too many shitty looking people. Even the ones who have decent reason to be town like GD.
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##Vote: HaruRH
Should have lynched this guy D1.
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Who has a good reason to townread Haru right now?
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I'm honestly telling you I didn't see it. I'm sure we'll have a good laugh about it post-game, before I request TL ban.
Also, you're not my buddy pal. But I need people in here I can actually talk to to advance the thread. People plugging their ears going "neener neener you scum" are not exactly going to be people I can hold meaningful conversations with.
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Prior post in response to the stuff wave said that I didn't quote like I should have.
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I'll look at Haru's filter just for you, Wave.
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On August 12 2014 12:05 WaveofShadow wrote:
Who has a good reason to townread Haru right now?
I don't. In fact I've scumread him last night and the reason still stands today.
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On August 12 2014 12:06 goodkarma wrote:
I'm honestly telling you I didn't see it. I'm sure we'll have a good laugh about it post-game, before I request TL ban.
Also, you're not my buddy pal. But I need people in here I can actually talk to to advance the thread. People plugging their ears going "neener neener you scum" are not exactly going to be people I can hold meaningful conversations with.
You never gave people a chance, you rage out way too easily. Of course people who think you're scum are going to have some form of superiority complex and lord their shit over you, welcome to the game of mafia! Are you new here? It happens every game. It's up to you to cure them of their misconceptions and coddle the shit out of them until they believe you. There's a reason why I don't ever get lynched, GK.
You actually have to put up a fight, not go 'oh woe is me everyone here is stupid but me gg all'
Now for lack of better judgement, for now I think you're likely town because I've seen you do this stupid shit before. Look where it got you. Fix it, because if you don't my townread doesn't last.
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