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Hopefully I don't suck as much in this game. | ||
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Found out I don't have the time, sorry. | ||
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On July 29 2014 11:06 Seeyalater wrote: /in What name do you go by in DM? | ||
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Hey, now, I know last game I promised to, but I promise I'll "talk to you at night" this game, honey.  | ||
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On July 29 2014 16:04 GlowingBear wrote: I'll let you talk to me at night If you take me to that fancy Italian restaurant. Teemu, insomnia strikes hard today. Can we start the game already? Would not mind that at all. I'm doing absolutely nothing at work and I'M BORED. | ||
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On July 29 2014 16:10 GlowingBear wrote: Ok, I'll give some reads: Teemu: null Poof: null Lilwade: null Seeyalater: null Jenny: null Roman numbers: null Tolkien: null Meatpudding: scum since DCLXVI = 666 and 666 = evil DCLXVI = evil Therefore, DCLXVI is mafia. | ||
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On July 29 2014 16:46 GlowingBear wrote: I'm bad with maths, that's why I gave him a null read. I find suspicious the fact of you finding that suspicious. Way to OMGUS me after I used perfect logic. Vote GlowingBear | ||
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On July 22 2014 14:50 GlowingBear wrote: I'm totally going to copcheck GlowingBear tonight What does I t g c G t mean? I'm so confused... I don't get it, is this like an encrypted message or something? | ||
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On July 29 2014 16:04 GlowingBear wrote: I'll let you talk to me at night If you take me to that fancy Italian restaurant. Teemu, insomnia strikes hard today. Can we start the game already? I bet you fell asleep and lied about your insomnia. Lynch all liars. | ||
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Are you town? | ||
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On July 29 2014 23:34 GlowingBear wrote: I'm also town. Therefore ##Vote: Teemursu Also, nice day1 flavour. Sounds like Saw movies. Haru = Jigsaw. We are screwed. Bitch, I was the first one to post -> confirmed town. | ||
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On July 29 2014 23:39 GlowingBear wrote: I'm sorry. My grudge is eternal and it bypasses any confirmation. Do you think Jenny is a woman? I believe this is crucial to scum hunting I KNOW she is. I've played video mafia with her like once or twice. Why is it crucial? | ||
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On July 29 2014 23:45 GlowingBear wrote: Think with me. Women are devil's creation, as said in popular belief. There is a guy named 666 here. So, this guy created Jenny and they are evil. If they are evil, they are scum. We found the mafia pair. Gg Did you think of this before the game started? | ||
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On July 29 2014 23:49 JennyHell wrote: A guy created me? Alone, or with help? Also, don't confuse the Hell in my name with the hell that belongs to the devil. I'm agnostic and therefore have no belief in god or the devil. But nice try! "Nice try", as in, you're mafia but he didn't catch you yet? | ||
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On July 30 2014 00:01 JennyHell wrote: No, Teemu, not that way. Like in 95% of the games I've played in video mafia, I am town. Hey, as a side question, did you perhaps name yourself after the League character Teemo, but spruced it up with some finnish, making it Teemursu? Nah, my first name is actually Teemu. The nickname is kind of a play with two Finnish words and my first name. Mursu = walrus Tee = tea ![[image loading]](http://31.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_meadryPwaF1r4f6zoo1_1280.jpg) Google image search sometimes finds the most wonderful things. LOL | ||
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On July 30 2014 00:01 JennyHell wrote: No, Teemu, not that way. Like in 95% of the games I've played in video mafia, I am town. Hey, as a side question, did you perhaps name yourself after the League character Teemo, but spruced it up with some finnish, making it Teemursu? So you're not scum? Remember, GB's wedding invitation depends on this. | ||
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On July 30 2014 01:48 lilwade wrote: Your are telling me i should vote for a guy named "Tea Walrus" day 1, you better check yourself. top. town. | ||
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On July 30 2014 02:41 GlowingBear wrote: No, really, let's try to actually start the game. Jenny, from your experience on daily mafia, what's the difference between scum!jenny and town!jenny? This is a weird question to start the "actual" game with. What information are you expecting to get out of this question, specifically information that will help you figure out her alignment? Scum!jenny would lie about how she plays either alignment, so to get any helpful information, you have to know she is town. Kinda scummy. | ||
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On July 30 2014 03:47 Tehpoofter wrote: Proof you didn't get a math degree at Cambridge. This is about the time each day I wake up and this start EOD is like midway through my sleep so I'm likely going to miss them all. Lame but o well. Teemu probably mafia again statistically, glowing voting on a pr is bad but that's townie to vote. Jenny trying to do math she might as well confirm herself as vt. Although she did fake claim an annoying face. Statistically? LMFAO | ||
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On July 30 2014 02:49 GlowingBear wrote: If we keep kidding all day long it will lead to a mislynch. I'd rather ask questions like this so we can gather some information. You may consider it true or false. If you consider it false, you may analyse how consciously she is trying to keep the appearances she brought on her answer. If I actually knew she was town, there would be no need to ask such question, Teemu I like that you try to generate some discussion, but I think the question you asked is weird. What do you now think of her answer that she did give one? Too consciously trying to keep the appearance? | ||
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On July 30 2014 03:58 Tehpoofter wrote: I think that if you ask someone how they perceive their own game it tells you a lot about the way they think. It's a good question teems and I thought jenny!smell was townie in her answer. I agree that her answer was pretty towny. I think it's just weird knowing that getting a truthful answer requires knowing that that person is town. It does give an insight into how and in what way they're self-conscious about their own play, but that's kind of why I'm following it up and asking GB what he has picked up, since I find it hard to really find what I should be looking for without knowing her alignment. Also, this post contained no reads, which is making me consider ctrl+a+del. | ||
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On July 30 2014 04:09 Tehpoofter wrote: I don't like this post. You might actually be mafia. Why do you think so? | ||
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On July 30 2014 04:28 Seeyalater wrote: Hey y'all I'm awake and town! So that's good. Still heavily sick with the flu though. Also so far reading into the game I don't trust Teemu.... Elaborate, pls? | ||
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On July 30 2014 04:41 GlowingBear wrote: Nope, she actually said nothing on her post. It shows she is cautious to tell us about her play style, but it looks like mor of a town paranoia than scum hiding. It's fine that you find that weird, but what would be a scum motive behind that question. Think about it. Nothing, really. It's just scum-indicative to ask questions and not follow them up with anything. I was seeing if you were trying to figure out the game thus far and, I'm okay with this post. | ||
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On July 30 2014 04:52 DCLXVI wrote: oh thank you teemursu for reminding me I need to type faster lolwut | ||
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On July 30 2014 04:37 Seeyalater wrote: I don't know, he just seems a little TOO eager, you know what I mean? Like going off so hard to get people to like him(including cute pictures as well!) makes me not trust him too much. Not calling him mafia or anything, just my top scum from what has been happening here so far! Are you his partner Jenny? :o I really really like that you're giving reads, but I dislike the bolded. | ||
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Want to explain your vote a bit? | ||
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On July 30 2014 05:30 Seeyalater wrote: Didn't you say you were going to bed? How odd... Why is it odd? | ||
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On July 30 2014 05:30 Seeyalater wrote: Didn't you say you were going to bed? How odd... On July 30 2014 05:31 Tehpoofter wrote: I think you're mafia for not calling anyone mafia. | ||
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On July 30 2014 05:47 Seeyalater wrote: Teemu if you want to call me mafia, at least have the cajones to do it yourself! I'm not calling you mafia yet. Off to bed now, for realsies. Will be F5'ing occasionally with the phone. | ||
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On July 30 2014 10:00 Tehpoofter wrote: TEEMU IS MAFIA I'm like 75% sure. Who is around to talk about how right I am? Why do you think so? 75% is quite strong of an opinion. Heading off soon, so won't be posting much right now. | ||
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On July 30 2014 10:26 lilwade wrote: Teemu started off active he kind of dabbled in some good questions but pursue like I would have, he had a lot of filler posts to appear more active, and he has currently been asleep for almost 16 hours. If I had to question your marry bang kill list i would say: 1) I am not so sure that there are any marry's here yet, kudus for you actually choosing someone tho Jennyhell seems to be very active and appear townie, albeit, I never make a true top town d1 2) I am on your kill list when I the town hero, you may not see it now but d2 is when the big boys come to play. 3) A bit quick to judge seeya, I think he has had some solid posts and is trying to contribute to town. Wait, I have? Shit. | ||
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On July 30 2014 10:39 Tehpoofter wrote: I ain't scared to push him Roman Numeral Guy! Step it up. ##unvote ##Vote: DCLXVI How sure are you that he is mafia? >75%? | ||
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On July 30 2014 12:27 Tehpoofter wrote: You feel apathetic towards the game. I feel like you would be in here posting like instantly upon waking up if you were town just from how I feel you play. Its 75% cause I want to see if you were busy or hear your reads. I also was wanting to talk to people cause no one was talking. Give reads. I literally just woke up. Actually, I lied, I tried to get Naxx working first. So far, I haven't read most of the thread with thought. I haven't really given any reads (which is the reason most people are going against me? Idk) because it was still very early in the game, and people started being more active when I was focusing on trying to getting into bed/focusing on getting legend in Hearthstone. Anyways, I like the spot I'm in, I generally get very good reads when people are pushing on me. My initial gutfeelz are that Seeyalater is mafia. Reading his filter kind of confirms this to me, so you should probably do it yourself too, but it feels to me like he is trying to kind of blend in town by "agreeing a lot with everyone else says" (first page) and then posted a liszt of reads in which I didn't feel the reasoning for the reads was too strong. Jenny is pretty towny, lotsa content and probably is going to have the second longest filter (after me). I kinda wish lilwade would've followed up with his "reaction tests". Not posting too many reads while creating the opportunity for himself makes me lean scum on him. 666's case was okay, but it kinda gave a feeling that he was trying too hard to justify his vote? Idk. I would kind of like to see the questions he wanted me to follow up with since I'm too lazy myself. | ||
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Anyway, wanted to add up on Seeyalater. Like, he's being noncommittal at first (like Poofter called him out for), "agrees" a lot with people, and then makes a list of reads that kind of repeat the same old people have already said. I kind of tunneled hard for Vivax because of this last game, but saying stuff like "How odd.........." without calling a person is mafia is veeerryy scum indicative. You kind of imply that that person is mafia without actually calling them mafia, which lets you a) have your options open b) make it easy to defend yourself and c) not piss anyone off. Making a list like that so early in the game is suspicious as well. I rarely see town have many "good" reads, and I've seen mafia more often sheep everyone's general direction early on. Making a list like that rings to me either fabricating reads or sheeping (which I've pointed out before). | ||
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On July 30 2014 05:48 Teemursu wrote: I'm not calling you mafia yet. Off to bed now, for realsies. Will be F5'ing occasionally with the phone. I wanted to see how he reacted/posted after this, and see if he actually calls someone mafia, but now I actually do want to say you're mafia. | ||
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On July 30 2014 08:26 Tehpoofter wrote: Teemu: He fooled me last game and bump that guy. He isn't talking nearly as much as he did last game which is concerning (I think??) he was mafia last game and is doing something different which should make him townier but what hes doing is in general scummier. I'm confused on him and therefore would want him to die. So many people hold a grudge against me in this game, LOL. | ||
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On July 30 2014 12:27 Tehpoofter wrote: Sure did vote on him. So probably pretty sure. Or maybe I wanted him to talk. What do you think? I asked because if he's lower than >75%, shouldn't you still be voting on me? Anyway, I kinda expressed my opinion on Seeyalater above. | ||
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On July 30 2014 13:19 GlowingBear wrote: Teemu, if you read my "short" case, you'll identify that I AM calling them mafia for that. The ending will make it sure for you. Read from main point to the ending. You'll see that I am not voting them because I prefer to vote lurkers. I did read it and I agree that there are some scummy things you pointed out, but I don't think they're BOTH mafia and I wouldn't approach it from that perspective. Hope you didn't think that post was about you, I was talking about Seeyalater. | ||
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On July 30 2014 11:54 DCLXVI wrote: Oh man I know I just went off on Teemursu on this if you don't follow up on this or post your opinions too I will not be happy. This is a mafia post. I mean, what's the point of this? Why don't you first see if he does or doesn't and then push on him? Feels like you're trying to preemptively justify your push on him. | ||
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On July 30 2014 09:31 Lord Tolkien wrote: Also, if you've checked out my previous TL mafia game filters, you'll know how threadbare that analysis post was <_<; I usually have much more to say but eh, this game is KIND OF slow. Form moar bandwagons and accuse ppl...ppl. Why don't you do it yourself? I read you as town for your reads liszt post but this kind of attitude is scum-like | ||
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 Well, off to work now. Will be back in < 3 hours. Hopefully someone posts something about my content. | ||
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On July 30 2014 13:41 GlowingBear wrote: I don't remember those posts, I usually don't like them thanks to you. Anyway, saying that I was trying to put town on the right track is ok. Town reading me only for that is strange. I'll definitely re-read the thread to catch those things, if it doesn't get more than 40 pages lol. Give me your opinion on that, also. I'll find the post(s) once I come back to a computer, but for now I don't feel like you did anything to keep town in the right direction after we had the conversation about Jenny. Point is, it sounds like a very"easy" read to give especially without substantiating and quoting the posts in which you've apparently done that. | ||
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On July 30 2014 14:28 DCLXVI wrote: Because he actually started having firm opinions on things, as opposed to your attitude of "I think Seeyalater is scum(but I am not voting him.) ##Vote Seeyalater Forgot ro, fix'd. Anyway, I thought you still found poofter scummy after your last post and seeing that you stipped posting after that. If you don't, could you instead focus on scumhunting or comment on my content? | ||
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On July 30 2014 13:45 DCLXVI wrote: Your conversations were meaningless jokes and you threw a few votes around for no reason, that to me is spam. Once you finally started contributing after your small and then clarified largerer reads on everyone I saw the spam was mixed in with real posts. After that you picked it up with some decent lines of questioning that lead to information about others, and I now know your opinions on people. This is what I classify as spam, do you disagree? + Show Spoiler + On July 30 2014 03:56 Tehpoofter wrote: Yeah no way your face is annoying but you claimed it is. Why would you lie? On July 30 2014 04:00 Tehpoofter wrote: Saying I'm not funny? ##unvote ##Vote lilwade On July 30 2014 08:29 Tehpoofter wrote: I wasn't suppose to share that with everyone i knew? I understand that you are responding to people in these, but that does not help me figure out who is what, it just makes you look active and your filter harder to read. You posted that you would actually say stuff about people, then went straight back to what you were doing before, that is why I voted for you. On July 30 2014 14:28 DCLXVI wrote: Because he actually started having firm opinions on things, as opposed to your attitude of "I think Seeyalater is scum(but I am not voting him.) Why didn't you mention this in the post you obviously put effort into? Also, is the reason you're voting on me that I didn't have my vote placed on Seeyalater? I've stated my opinions firmly, so Idk how exactly my attitude is opposed to Poofter's. | ||
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On July 30 2014 05:49 DCLXVI wrote: Are you sure about that? He says he will come up with a list of his ideas on people, then posts mostly spam afterwards. Maybe he wasn't joking about mafia on mafia action? If time is the concern how about posting just the top 1 mafia/town tehpoofter? For me Glowingbear is easily the top town, between getting the town started working and keeping it on track. I would be interested to hear your opinions on people GB. Top Scum for me right now is tehpoofter, he spent the first half of his posts doing nothing, then says he will get to work and immediately returns to spam. ##Vote Tehpoofter Since GlowingBear is your top town, could you give examples of GB trying to keep the town on track? On July 30 2014 09:18 Lord Tolkien wrote: Biggest problem for me is that the jokes and filler are permeating this entire thread. Makes filter-diving a bitch, pls be mo' srs gaiz (now I want to request a feature to delete posts in a filter, I could probably reduce most filters down to <5 posts each). And quote stuff you're responding to for meh. --- Anyways, quick skim through filters: GlowingBear: Started the srs talk, but hasn't been very active past that. My experience in my second TL mafia game (fuck if I remember the number) is that moving the game out of the joke phase is an easy way for mafia to pick up extra brownie points, so I don't give any major points for that. GB, why do you peg Jenny and Seeya as your initial scum reads? Curious about that. --- I also agree with this. While I don't think it's alignment indicative to try to get past the joke phase, I see no reason to consider that person as your top town. | ||
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Now as for you Teemu http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/462654-newbie-mini-mafia-lvii?page=17#334, I'll agree with you on some things, like about some of my opinions being shared by others before me, but in that case, is it really that odd to agree with the majority on certain actions? I like to sound off on every post as much as possible, and what I think of content of said post, and hey guess what, that will usually align with what others are saying if its fairly obvious stuff. Also how is making an early list of reads odd, specially in a forum game, just to show everyone where I am at at the moment? I wasn't even the first person to do so, how come you only came at me about that. Its a great way as town to communicate to each other where we stand with each other. In fact, you're the only one who has brought this up as scummy in your book. And who said anything about them being good reads? They were my early game-what has happened so far- reads, no where did I imply they were good reads at all. It is very easy for mafia to just agree with everyone on what they're saying and even easier to just make a list of sheeped reads instead of scumhunting. That's what I haven't seen you do and why I have a problem with what you've done so far. Also your point about last game seems odd to me, mostly because I wasn't in on it, but why bring it up at that moment? Nothing major just a small thing that seemed weird to me. As for the how odd... You'll notice I say a lot of things are odd, just because other people use said word. Is that something I need to change in order to come off as less scummy? Probably, but that's just how it is. I bring it up because it happened very recently and that person was town, but the difference is that in hindsight I don't see Vivax trying to "blend in" to town and not do his part of scumhunting or figuring the game out. To me teemu, now it just seems now that people have started to give you flak and see past your friendly demeanor, you've just thrown scum at others who have called you mafia. I have not seen you, since you woke up a while back, even talk about other people in the game, such as Lord Tolkien or Jenny. The first paragraph, I would like you to address the reasons I've called them mafia instead of say what I've done in a bad light. The second... so? This doesn't make me mafia. | ||
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On July 30 2014 15:08 Seeyalater wrote: Oh in case its hard to see, my replies to GB's case are bolded inside his post. Goodnight y'all! Your formatting IS terrible, at least you're not lying. | ||
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On July 30 2014 10:02 Seeyalater wrote: So my updated are- 6. lilwade- Much like Teemu, a good amount of points but not a lot of substance to most of them, if any at all. Another Mafia leaning player. Seeyalater, I don't even know what this means. Could you quote examples of whatever you're trying to say? Also, his filter is about as long as yours, so I wouldn't vote him off of policy if I were you. | ||
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On July 30 2014 10:29 lilwade wrote: I get a leaning mafia vibe every time i go over his posts, at first I thought he was really town but now I think he is on the fence/leaning mafia Why? | ||
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I feel like he is being accused for trolliness (not sure if by wolves or villagers) and being cleared now that he has given opinions without looking too much into the opinions of themselves, which makes me think that either mafia has been pushing on him or he is mafia himself, slipping away from people's mafia circle. | ||
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On July 30 2014 12:27 Tehpoofter wrote: You feel apathetic towards the game. I feel like you would be in here posting like instantly upon waking up if you were town just from how I feel you play. Its 75% cause I want to see if you were busy or hear your reads. I also was wanting to talk to people cause no one was talking. Give reads. You wanted to talk, let's talk. | ||
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It is easy because the reads are either a) sheeped and the list is mostly a recap of what's been said earlier or b) fabricated. A is the case and which is why I think you're scummy. ##Unvote Not scummy enough to warrant a vote at this point, actually, and I think I might not be on the right track. I think you might actually think that I'm mafia now, maybe. ##Vote Tehpoofter Until he praises how town I am or discusses reads with me. | ||
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Poofter's initial read on me (inactivity, etc) was like.. okay? I kinda explained it and have obviously stepped it up, which is why I would like to hear his updated read on me. Then, people who kind of jumped onto the read were Jenny and then Seeyalater with his liszt post. Jenny acknowledged the read, but didn't really push on me because of it, so nothing much can be said about it. Seeyalater I've already addressed, and I think he's pretty scummy, but I want to see what his contribution for the whole day will be. 666 then noticed the scumreads and proceeded to make a case on me. I think making the case and diving into my filter was pretty towny, but I've addressed some of my concerns at like the previous page or something. I have him on the fence. WHY IS IT SO QUIET? | ||
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On July 30 2014 09:12 lilwade wrote: I disagree completely, I think you knew it was obvious and I think you are the type to be fastidious in what you do. From what I have seen so far if you wanted to soft a role you could be more discrete. What do you think of the fact that he jumped on what Jenny said and kinda poked at you/threw scum on you with the post you're quoting? Since even he himself acknowledges that it's too obvious to be a soft, why does you pointing that out worry him? | ||
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On July 30 2014 17:25 HaruRH wrote: Vote Count – Day 1 Teemursu (1): Tehpoofter (1): meatpudding (1): Glowingbear seeyalater (0): lilwade (1): DCLXVI (1): Tehpoofter Not voting (-): Everyone else Currently, meatpudding is set to be lynched with 1 vote. Please contact the mods if the vote count is incorrect. Thank you! Day 1 will end in (14:00 GMT (+00:00)). People who aren't yet voting anyone: Jenny, lilwade, meatpudding, Seeyalater. Could you please do vote someone? | ||
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On July 30 2014 08:26 Tehpoofter wrote: My Kills: Lilwade really wants to buddy people it seems doesn't seem to be taking conflict well. Hes asking good questions which makes me think hes played before but his buddying seemed off to me. Like he was more concerned with not being called out vs finding someone to call out. Like I don't care if anyone calls me mafia or disagrees with me because I know my alignment. I feel like thats how town play. Teemu: He fooled me last game and bump that guy. He isn't talking nearly as much as he did last game which is concerning (I think??) he was mafia last game and is doing something different which should make him townier but what hes doing is in general scummier. I'm confused on him and therefore would want him to die. SeeyaLater: His not wanting to get into anything by calling people mafia seems more scummy to me. Like he doesn't want to get on anyones bad side. Just like Lilwade. I don't like this type of playstyle if hes town you should be okay to be wrong and call people mafia and such. I haven't played with him on DM but know him so no clue how he normally plays games as well. I think all of your explanations for the kill reads aren't impressive at all. I don't think Lilwade has been trying to buddy up with anyone, while buddying up isn't alignment indicative in itself. He also followed up with his "reaction tests" calling you his strongest town read. To me he is null at best. I can confirm that Teemu is town. I agree to an extent, but I think he might think I'm mafia and as Lilwade has said, he has given some reads (that you don't really address) and specifically in the post below I didn't feel like he was afraid of how he came out with his reads. You also say that you don't know how he plays. You create a scenario in which town "should" play (I read this a little scummy), but yet you kind of contradict yourself by saying it reads more scummy to you after saying you don't know how he normally plays. On July 30 2014 04:37 Seeyalater wrote: I don't know, he just seems a little TOO eager, you know what I mean? Like going off so hard to get people to like him(including cute pictures as well!) makes me not trust him too much. Not calling him mafia or anything, just my top scum from what has been happening here so far! Are you his partner Jenny? :o Are you mafia, Banks? | ||
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On July 30 2014 06:20 JennyHell wrote: It seemed like he could see both sides of the coin. When Teemu and GB were discussing the question he gave to me, he explained why it would be a good question to ask, to gather information, and then he also at a later stage explained why it would be scummy to not share what he took from it. He's presenting two worlds which both may very well be true and not one of them seemed to be a fact to him. That makes me believe that he is not sitting on facts about who is mafia and who is not. Is this the only reason you think Banks is town? Now that he substantiated his reads, what do you think of them? Why is Banks town? How are you sure he just hasn't pocketed you yet? | ||
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On July 30 2014 19:09 meatpudding wrote: Hey guys. Anyone still here? I'm going to look through the thread. I'm here. | ||
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On July 30 2014 19:09 meatpudding wrote: Hey guys. Anyone still here? I'm going to look through the thread. You were the first one to post after four hours (not including me), great job. Now who do you think is mafia and why? | ||
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On July 30 2014 19:33 meatpudding wrote: Hi Teemu. meat - top town or tt for short banks - town lover jen - the devil is a woman but she's not evil 666 - definitely evil wade - using some pressure cya - too cautious tea - first to post first to kill (we're no strangers to love) gb - logic infallible therefore must have perfect info Have you caught up with everything right now? | ||
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Explains why you're reading me scum, I guess. Could you explain why you're reading Banks as town. On 666 or Seeyalater I don't know what your read is, mafia or town? Also is your read on GB a joke? | ||
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On July 30 2014 19:58 meatpudding wrote: What do you think of my town reads Jen and Banks? Banks is doing what townies do. Posting reads and pushing for scum. I'm up to the part where GB makes a case. Banks is posting reads, yes, but I don't think he has pushed scum too well, I posted about this recently. Not much to think of you townreading Jenny, everyone kind of is so there's not too much information there (especially since you don't substantiate much). | ||
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On July 30 2014 19:58 JennyHell wrote: Goodmorning darlings. Time to read through the posts since I fell asleep in my chair last night, while reading this forum. I'll return soon enough with a response to GB's ridiculous idea that I'm defending seeya while he's distancing himself from me. Nice to see Meatpudding has joined the rest of us now, looking forward to hear more. Finally! People are waking up! Please address the questions I asked from you about Banks as soon as you can! | ||
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On July 30 2014 20:02 meatpudding wrote: Its still kind of early. Are you part of 'everyone' who town reads Jen? Leaning town, yeah, not as strongly as everyone else, I think. She's just someone I'm not really paying too much attention to day 1, I'd rather focus on lynches. GB's case was okay, I just don't agree with the premise/conclusion that both are mafia. There have been some scummy interactions, as GB pointed out, that probably deserve some attention. | ||
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On July 31 2014 00:59 Seeyalater wrote: I guess its time to vote for now then, in case something goes wrong. ##VoVote Teemursu. Hope I did that right! Not a 100% set read in case something else comes up, but I'll admit that will be pretty hard. You vote on me without explaining why you think I'm mafia, without addressing any of the 90% of the content I came up with earlier? How do you suppose I'm able to read you as nothing but scum? | ||
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All of the cases on me have been mostly about inactivity, at least I haven't seen any other ones. If Seeyalater votes on me as OMGUSing me, without him addressing any of the content I've put out or the stuff I answered his accusations with, it doesn't really help me figure his alignment out... | ||
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On July 31 2014 04:10 Tehpoofter wrote: Morning shitbags! What have I missed? About 90% of my content in this game. Get to work you lazy ass! | ||
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On July 31 2014 04:16 JennyHell wrote: Teemu, you speak a lot about not being able to read people if they don't give information and you ask a lot of question, but honestly I'm having a super hard time reading you. Just because you need to read others doesn't negate the fact that these others need to be able to read you. You keep mentioning having the longest filter but, is that really that important if half of it is fluff and jokes? Something you did that I didn't really care for was talk about some Vivax thingie, which stopped me in my tracks and made me stare clueless, so thanks for that. Another thing you did that I didn't really appreciate, even though it was probably meant as a joke due to you being bored about the thread going slowly, was mentioning Poofter's QT and calling him a wolf in a jokey way. Maybe I'm just too stuck up to see the fun in that. Do you actually feel he is scum, and if so what lead you to believe so? I've asked questions, but I've also followed up with content. If people have a problem reading me, they should probably be more active and have discussions with me. If you honestly think half of my filter is jokes and troll, you probably haven't read the thread. Idk really what to say about the Vivax and Banks thing...? Like I've already said that Banks has pretty weak calls for scum and pushed on him on his reasoning for those, and I feel like he is pretty scummy for it, knowing how good of a player he can be (like holy shit Banks, when you lead town as town, it's so fudging Godly). So yeah, I do think he is scummy and I have addressed him.in my reads. | ||
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On July 31 2014 04:35 JennyHell wrote: Maybe we're just speaking 2 completely different languages here, but to me, you just seem extremely unwilling to state how you feel about things and instead just point to your filter list. Work with me here instead of being difficult! Thing is, it's kind of annoying to either a) repeat what you've already said or b) do the work of the other person and find your reads to show them. It's especially annoying when you basically talk alone for three hours and then almost no one addresses any of the content you've put out. To make things clearer, here's a liszt post: GlowingBear - He might be wrong on a lot of his logic (especially making day 1 associative reads on unflipped players), but I've played two games with him before, and he always as town looks like he's pretty genuine with the cases he puts out, even though they might be a little silly. Teemursu - Confirmed town. DCLXVI - Null/leaning scum. He voted on me for being inactive and not following up with questions. Now that I've been active and followed up with some of the questions, I don't see why he still has a vote on me. I also feel like he was kind of scummy trying to kind of preemptively justify his vote here: On July 30 2014 11:54 DCLXVI wrote: Oh man I know I just went off on Teemursu on this if you don't follow up on this or post your opinions too I will not be happy. meatpudding - leaning scum. Has done close to nothing in the game. Asked some questions and disappeared without following them up with anything. JennyHell - One of the more active d1 posters, seems genuine about her reads that she gives out quite a bit. lilwade - null. His reaction tests on Banks were townish, and at least he followed them up by saying Banks was the towniest thus far, but he hasn't really done much at all besides that. Tehpoofter - I feel like his scum reads are kind of weak and I feel like he might be mafia trying to push misslynches on easy targets. That is, if people like Lilwade and Seeyalater are actually town. If the game is really so easy that the people who don't post much and are being pushed the most are scum, it's all great, but until I see Banks provide some better reasoning for mafia reads or see a scum get lynched by him, I can't really trust him too much. Lord Tolkien - on the fence with. I like that he called out people reading GB town for trying to stop the trolliness and he has had two decent posts, but I have one problem with him: On July 30 2014 13:33 Teemursu wrote: Why don't you do it yourself? I read you as town for your reads liszt post but this kind of attitude is scum-like I generally just want to see him be more active and post more. He could probably be a decent asset to town if he did. Seeyalater I've talked about him so much that I'm just too tired to repeat things, lol. | ||
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On July 31 2014 04:59 JennyHell wrote: I'm currently trying to go through it all again, seeing if there are groups formed somewhere. It's extremely difficult but I have some groups already in my head, I'll bring them up in another post. To answer GB. My current 2 top scum is lilwade and DC, They were both active from the start but have fallen off. My guess, new players to mafia doesn't want to draw too much attention to themselves so they're trying to coast along without disagreeing too much with other people, which is what lilwade was doing with almost apologizing for his reads and I don't want use the word sheeping but agreeing with others reads without bringing much to the table himself. DC's reads have been fuller and more to point, "better"? if you will, than lilwade's, but I dislike his sudden lack of activity and hope he will chime in soon. If I were to give a third it'd be meatpudding, for barely being here at all and the time he was here he didn't give much. Save yourself the trouble and don't make any connections between people today. | ||
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On July 31 2014 00:57 Seeyalater wrote: I've said this many times before, I don't think marriage means much, and I'd totally get married for money! No but yeah, I seemed to have mixed up what the protocol for what bang, ,marry, kill is. Just went in order from bang(top town) to kill(top scum). I like that meatpudding is back and giving some reads, however I sincerely hope he posts more today, we need a lot more info from him and others, like lilwade, anc clockwork orange(666). My reply to this teemu post- http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/462654-newbie-mini-mafia-lvii?page=19#361 If you go through his filter, a lot of his posts are 2-3 sentences max, so there isn't too much depth to them. Only maybe one or 2 after the game started are longer than that. It was good that you mean me go through his filter though, so I can reevaluate him. While his interaction with Poofter was weird, I am getting a townier read on him then earlier, so I'd be ok with leaving him alive for today. It also made me read you even more scummy than before. You bring up the fact that his filter is about as long as mine, which post count wise it may be true, but a lot, and by a lot I mean A LOT, of my posts are much more substantiated than his 2-3 sentence posts. It just seems like once again, you are trying to subvertly throw scum at me. Otherwise why bring up the number of posts, but leave out how packed said posts are. And the smiley is like the cherry on top. Like my great sensei Imaqtpie once said, never trust someone who posts a smiley face where it should not belong. All I really want to say is that I don't judge posts by length. Quality over quantity. Short, real time interactions can be way more valuable than huge walls of posts. It's easier for mafia to coast a long and then make a huge post of reads that some people can't even be bothered to read. I just thought it was weird that you said his points were good, but not having any depth/substance behind them made me think what you thought was good about them..? You didn't really address that, kind of just said that you read him as more towny after going through his filter again. Like, if the interaction was weird, why are you getting a townier read on him?? | ||
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On July 31 2014 05:08 lilwade wrote: My lack of activity is because you mainly are asleep when I am awake and vice versa. I just woke up about 25 minutes ago, still getting my beloved coffee in. Morning! Once you catch up, I would love to hear your updated read on Poofter and anything I've said today. | ||
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On July 31 2014 05:12 JennyHell wrote: Ok, I'll take you up on this. I will not make any connections I've found public, for d1, and then compare it to d2 if I live to see it. First see how people flip after they get lynched/NK'd, and then make connections. Associative reads are really bad to make if you don't know someone's alignment for sure. Also, a person with a long filter is always a bad lynch for day 1. Both of these points above I've sheeped from players way more experienced in forum mafia than I am. | ||
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On July 31 2014 05:18 lilwade wrote: Seeing as he has not said much since I went to bed about the same, Despite my prior knowledge of any of his game play the guy is undoubtedly townie. Teemu I felt like you were overdoing it last night by yourself. it was something like 11 posts in a row. Just a bit much lol. But yes, you did ask some questions that needed to be asked and I think we are still waiting on a couple of those to be answered. I agree it was a lot, but I'm just kind of frustrated that I feel like people are just ignoring all of it, lol. Do you have reads on other people? I still don't fully know what your stance on the game is. | ||
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On July 31 2014 05:20 GlowingBear wrote: Oh, and by the way, Teemu, this sounds like your town play so I'm also putting you in my town circle, although I'll have to filter dive you if I live past night1 You should definitely do your usual "imply someone is a blue during n1 and remember it's a bad idea" again. :D (hopefully not on me, though). | ||
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On July 31 2014 12:18 Tehpoofter wrote: Do you think you're making the best cases/playing the best town you can? I would almost lynch you for this question. Anyways, Banks stepped it up a bit, and I like him a little more, but until he successfully lynches mafia, I will have doubts about him in the back of my mind. ##Unvote ##Vote MeatPudding | ||
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Also as much and as valid the accusations on Seeyalater have been, Idk if he is mafia. To me he just sounds really genuine about what he is saying. I might be overreading it (?) while I'm still half asleep, but Idk. Still needs to step up his game, though. | ||
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Me not being sure about Seeyalater and then using my vote to pressure you doesn't really make me mafia. Neither can I really defend myself about not voting until pinged to do so, like, big deal? Idk feels like he it's trying to make up stuff to get me misslynched, but I would rather see mp dead today | ||
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On July 31 2014 12:50 Lord Tolkien wrote: Well I'm back. Since it appears lilwade is not being lynched today, I'll do what I was planning on doing anyways. #Vote meatpudding This is very tentative however as I still need to read up whatever's happened since I last posted. Don't worry, MP still hasn't done -anything-. | ||
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On July 31 2014 13:02 lilwade wrote: Even, though this post was about me, if it wasn't I would still say the same thing. It is pretty sketchy. I am not sure if anyone else got that vibe. How come? | ||
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On July 31 2014 14:43 meatpudding wrote: It's not that nobody bought it cya did - http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewpost.php?post_id=22704228 Jen did - http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewpost.php?post_id=22706931 Banks did (early) - http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewpost.php?post_id=22702263 and again (later) - http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewpost.php?post_id=22703459 lilwade fence - http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewpost.php?post_id=22703540 The trend in Teemu's posts is that they are misleading and deliberately hard to get a read from. It's risky to exclude one player from lynch, especially in a small game. Anyone propose a second target, because I still say Teemu is the safest lynch today. Most of these aren't a reference to any case made by 666. It's like you've just went ahead and find a post by everyone that pushes/questions me the most. There was a decent reason to suspect me early on, when I hadn't done anything, but after I started putting out reads and content, a few people called me town (Banks switched from kill to bang, GB and Tolkien). You keep saying that my posts are misleading and hard to read, but I've clearly taken a stance on people. You also don't provide any evidence, you just kind of repeat the same old and sheep other pushes on me. If I was mafia (and this may sound a little weird to you), why wouldn't I stay with my push on say Seeyalater, like I did in the previous newbie game with you , and just get an easy miss lynch? | ||
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On July 31 2014 14:48 Lord Tolkien wrote: Going to sleep but: Yeah, I like meatpudding now. May just be me, but he's NOW starting to sound like his last-game play. Sticking to his guns. ima sleep naow Kinda. Problem is I'm not sure about either him or 666.. at least there's still time until EOD.. >_> | ||
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On July 31 2014 14:56 meatpudding wrote: Yeah that was poorly worded by me. I mean that he wasn't the only one to bring up suspicion here. Although I would like you to share your thoughts on Teemu. I don't think he's town. You don't need to focus on me, I'm not a lynch today like everyone else already has told you. If you're town focus on someone who you can help getting lynched, so we can get mafia day 1. Ok? Great. | ||
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On July 31 2014 15:00 meatpudding wrote: Calm down we are doing it Who is your top lynch?You or 666. | ||
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On July 31 2014 15:01 JennyHell wrote: Wow, getting my mind interrupted on TS makes my posts suck balls. What I meant to say was I'd rather you give reads than me rehash what you missed for not being here. This. I feel like you're asking questions for the sake of asking them and not really following them up with anything. | ||
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You've lurked throughout the whole game until now. When you were posting a bit, you asked a couple of questions and disappeared again without following any of that stuff. Your liszt post was pretty terrible. None of these things make you necessarily mafia, but scummy and impossible to read, especially after you can't give me any viable name to lynch. On July 31 2014 14:54 Teemursu wrote: Most of these aren't a reference to any case made by 666. It's like you've just went ahead and find a post by everyone that pushes/questions me the most. There was a decent reason to suspect me early on, when I hadn't done anything, but after I started putting out reads and content, a few people called me town (Banks switched from kill to bang, GB and Tolkien). You keep saying that my posts are misleading and hard to read, but I've clearly taken a stance on people. You also don't provide any evidence, you just kind of repeat the same old and sheep other pushes on me. If I was mafia (and this may sound a little weird to you), why wouldn't I stay with my push on say Seeyalater, like I did in the previous newbie game with you , and just get an easy miss lynch? 666 because I'm sheeping Banks. Your case on GB is so bad as well, none of the things you said about him make mafia, if anything, more town. | ||
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On July 31 2014 14:14 GlowingBear wrote: Lol completely random. Care to explain before leaving? Probably to save his own ass, Idk. Do you think 666 is mafia, if so, can you rehash your own opinion why? | ||
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On July 31 2014 15:20 meatpudding wrote: Anyone can chime in here. How did 666 become most scummy? Are we going for a policy lynch on d1? (one-page filter)... What little he posts seems like town to me. Does anybody have a case besides "he rings scummy"? Can you stop asking questions and give more substantiated reads? Asking these questions is not going to help you to not get lynched. You're wrong on me today, accept it for at least today, you can re-evaluate me later. | ||
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On July 31 2014 15:32 Tehpoofter wrote: There has to be a large shift in ideas meat for you or romannumeral not to get lynched. Why on earth don't you go ahead and say something thats going to make a shift like that happen. Your thing about teemu is bad. The post you linked on who thought he was scummy was all BEFORE romannumeral's case.... like i dont even know what you were trying to say with that. Because he might be town.. >_> Like it's so difficult for me to read him since all he is doing is have this bad push on me, and last time I played with him I was trying to lynch him as mafia, and he's acting kind of similarly.. | ||
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On July 31 2014 15:34 meatpudding wrote: That wasn't directed to you or anyone specific, but to have a consolidated wagon I would like it to be someone where there is a case against them. I don't actually think 666 is worth lynching so far. I know it wasn't directed at me. I'm saying, just like poofter is saying, that none of this isn't helping you to not get lynched. I'm trying to help you to not get ml.d if you're town. If you actually are mafia, this is probably making me look really bad, but fuck it. | ||
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On July 31 2014 15:51 JennyHell wrote: Don't get this. Wasn't in that game. Don't care if you're on phone or not. All I wanted to say for now It's fine it www. As mostly directed at GB. | ||
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On July 31 2014 15:53 Tehpoofter wrote: Meat you need to make a concise point why you and roman numeral aren't mafia. You or him are both on the block and could die. You have to do loads of work to have this not happen. So tell us why it shouldnt' happen. I like that there is just an awkward silence after this post. | ||
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On July 31 2014 16:16 Tehpoofter wrote: Your conversation was useless and not getting us anywhere. IT was like not doing anything to progress things. We need to hit a mafia today this isnt a good way to do it. No shit, but meat isn't giving me anything to work with either. | ||
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On July 31 2014 16:23 meatpudding wrote: This still isn't enough to swing my vote. I think apathetic scum hunting could be applied more than one way. At least he put minimal effort in. Maybe I agree with you but do you put top scum based on that alone? Ok, you agree that 666 doesn't really care if I get lynched or not. Assume you're wrong on me, why is 666 town now? If you really really really think I'm mafia and still want to tunnel on me, I want YOU to make a case and not a) repeat that everyone apparently thinks I'm scum/on the fence with me and b) say that you're sheeping 666 and that he's right. | ||
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On July 31 2014 16:31 JennyHell wrote: Not long til the end of d1 and I'm just feeling so frustrated about it all. I feel that meatpudding is just grasping at straws and maybe it wouldn't have been like that had he actually been here and done more to start with. This is what happens when people are lurky or not making sense. Please, for the love of anything, learn from this and improve. I'm really frustrated as well but tbh this isn't a very helpful post either. :p | ||
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On July 31 2014 16:37 Tehpoofter wrote: So you think you're more mafia than him..... Look at votes bro. Btw I forgot to say this earlier but I'm town. I wasn't in my reads and I Wanted people who need someone to trust to know thats the case. Banks which one of 666 and meat do you think is more likely to be mafia? | ||
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On July 31 2014 16:42 Seeyalater wrote: I'll get to other posts in a little bit(was busy for a few hours practicing DaS2 speedruns), but I have also noticed that both of us are getting pushed for not voting for each other when it was still early in the day. Do you not think I'm mafia anymore? Who do you think is mafia, if that's the case? | ||
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On July 31 2014 16:44 meatpudding wrote: I'm really starting to lose faith in you bro. We are going to wagon on 666 when you have so little to claim on him? And Teemu is just sheeping you. This reasoning does not stand with me, and if you can't name another scum I would consider switching my vote from tea to you. Make more sense before leading a potential mislynch. Wtfbbqlol. Make a case on Banks as to why he is mafia. A case. Don't just say that 666 is like confirmed town in your eyes and that everyone pushing on that person is mafia trying to push a misslynch. It actually is pretty interesting how strongly you think 666 is town, to the point of thinking the above. You JUST said that you agree with Banks that 666 isn't being adamant about his push on me, but it doesn't sway you yet, yet from my PoV it's difficult to read you as town, since I know I'm town and you've been reading 666 as town for mostly just agreeing about his push on me. | ||
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On July 31 2014 16:45 Teemursu wrote: Do you not think I'm mafia anymore? Who do you think is mafia, if that's the case? Because I have no fucking clue. | ||
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On July 31 2014 17:01 Seeyalater wrote: Why do you keep bringing up previous games, when a few of us get bad vibes whenever you bring them up! Stop that if you want my read on you to completely change >_< Because I felt like GB might know where I'm coming from, since I feel like I'm in a same kind of spot than I was in that game. If he gets it, he knows where I'm coming from. Frustrated, confused, and possibly wrong (in hindsight, lol). | ||
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On July 31 2014 17:04 Seeyalater wrote: It's a helpful post IMO because it shows that A. Jenny has been keeping up, and B. tells us how she feels about recent developments. Yes, but think to yourself how easy it is for mafia to make a post like this.. | ||
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On July 31 2014 17:11 meatpudding wrote: Who do you think is scum then? You can't really be voting me cause I'm inactive and roman to sheep Banks... If you and 666 are both town, I honestly don't know. I'm not voting on you because you're inactive, I'm voting on you because: On July 31 2014 15:45 Teemursu wrote: Meat, I think it's pretty scummy that you're not as strong with your opinion as you are with repeating that everyone else thinks what you're trying to make others think right now. I think it was really scummy to make the list, ask a couple of questions and disappear without following them up with anything. You're not really doing anything to defend yourself, while from my perspective it's impossible to read you as town when most of what you've done is Saying I'm mafia for reasons that I would have to find the evidence for. For example, saying that my text:content ratio isn't something you can just quote and refer to, I would have to go ahead and point to my filter as to where my reads, pushes and content is and I'm not doing that extra work to prove to you that I'm "playing townie", since almost everyone here agrees that I shouldn't be the lynch today, and you're not giving me an alternative, really. Your push on GB isn't strong or good. You were basically saying he's mafia for using good and well-thought logic. Ok? I think you also mentioned that he was "too careful" about it, that's where YOU need to prove it and provide EVIDENCE and EXAMPLES. You're doing none of these things and instead, you're just hard defending 666 because of his push on me, while I know I'm town and while even you agree with Banks that he hasn't been adamant about getting me lynched, so why read him as town? You being so stubborn and tunneled on me is how you played the other game as well (you were town), but do you really think there is a way for me to read you as town, IF IF IF, just assume IF I'm town? IF you think there is, you still haven't done anything to prove or show it to us, even after Banks and I are trying to give you the opportunity to defend yourself. | ||
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Can you tell me something specific to analyze? I don't really see what I need to, since I'm mostly on the same page as she is (more paranoid about you and less suspicious on lilwayne) and I'm not really too interested in going filter diving her to find the reasons for her names. I'm also getting really paranoid that Meat might be town, as shit as his defense still is. | ||
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On July 31 2014 17:48 meatpudding wrote: Banks thinks I'm too defensive. You say I'm not defensive enough. I think it's time to throw up some reasonable cases all round. Everyone can point out each others apathy and errors and post limits but I'm only going on each case that I can follow. I would like to present some thoughts that are more organised but I'd like to see some too! Then DO so and help us read you as town. The difference is that you're getting lynched, and Banks or I aren't, so prove to us, or the rest of town that you're town. On July 31 2014 17:39 lilwade wrote: I got excited to see a bunch of posts when I got back, I am sincerely disappointed that the game had to go this direction, Meatpudding. What are your goals right now, you look like the kid in kindergarten pointing the finger and the other kid spitting gibberish because he took your toy. We are almost at the point where it would be better for you to role claim than anything else, not saying you have a role. Please put up a solid defense backed by what you think is solid leads and maybe we can get somewhere. For a bit you were leaning town but did not follow up on just about anything you have said. I am not sure if you just can not handle the pressure but if you are town hang in there and throw a few more punches. I think this is kind of what Banks means about you being defensive. What I mean by not being defensive enough, is that you're STILL not proving that you're town, you're not fighting this lynch tooth and nail by giving us solid reads and substantiating them and thus proving you're town. | ||
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On July 31 2014 18:02 Tehpoofter wrote: If you read him more town kill RomanNumeralGuy thats who my vote has been on. I'm thinking the opposite I want to kill meat more and more tbh. You remember the game I was mafia trying to lynch meat, right? You don't think meat is acting very similarly? That's why I'm starting to lean more on 666 but I kind of am not convinced he's mafia either. Like what you said was good, but usually I have stronger vibes on mafia than that. | ||
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On July 31 2014 18:30 Seeyalater wrote: If meat was to change his own vote to Clockwork and vote is tied 4-4, what would happen in that case? Asking in case I need to change my vote to stop a tie from happening. Otherwise I think I'm going to stick with my gut and keep my vote on Meat. The person who gets the amount of votes that ties him with someone first gets lynched. | ||
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On July 31 2014 18:12 Tehpoofter wrote: I didn't read day 1 tbh. So I don't know about that game and how he defended. Do you really think its the same? I'm already on RomanNumeralGuy/ It is kind of the same, yeah. He's being really stubborn and kind of null to the accusations thrown at him. There's a little more of what lilwayne expressed when he talked about him being like a little kid in the garden, that I kind of agree with. That is making me a little more comfortable with the lynch, but I'm just not sure if he's mafia or not. | ||
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On July 31 2014 13:15 HaruRH wrote: Vote Count – Day 1 Teemursu (2): Tehpoofter (0): meatpudding (4): Glowingbear, seeyalater, seeyalater (0): lilwade (0): DCLXVI (3): Tehpoofter, lilwade, JennyHell Not voting (0): none Currently, Meatpudding is set to be lynched with 4 votes. Please contact the mods if the vote count is incorrect. Thank you! Day 1 will end in (14:00 GMT (+00:00)). I apologise if the votecount comes late, it is nearly impossible to do votecount on mobile. Tolkien -> DCLXVI DCLXVI -> meatpudding isn't this how the votes are placed currently? | ||
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On July 31 2014 17:48 meatpudding wrote: Banks thinks I'm too defensive. You say I'm not defensive enough. I think it's time to throw up some reasonable cases all round. Everyone can point out each others apathy and errors and post limits but I'm only going on each case that I can follow. I would like to present some thoughts that are more organised but I'd like to see some too! Still waiting for this. | ||
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I'm leaning mafia on Meat. I kind of am starting to forget how he played last time. I think it's only making me less able to read him, since afterall I was still mafia in that game and I thus don't really see him from the same perspective. | ||
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On July 31 2014 20:01 Tehpoofter wrote: Meatcake I agree came out overly defensive. Meatbrownies what do you think the most townie thing in your defense was? Like if you were reading Meatpie from an outsiders prospective what would your read on Meatcookie be? Teemu if Meatstruddel is town who is most likely to be mafia? Same question to Jenny if Meatdessert is mafia/town who is more likely to be mafia with him/mafia because of it? Lilwayne what incentive does RomanNumeralGuy have to just afk and vote Meatpastry? If Meatchocolate is mafia its a good play but if Meatyogurt is town its just a way to get an easy misslynch on MeatCheeseCake. RomannumeralGuy if Meaticecream is lynched over you what will you do to project town more the rest of the game? I'm seriously considering changing my vote over to Meatpudding before I go to bed. I'll answer this later, workload just came by to say hi to me. | ||
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On July 31 2014 22:59 Lord Tolkien wrote: I don't see anything that makes me change my vote. JUST WOKE UP LOL. Heya Tolkien, let's eat popcorn together and watch the flip. :D | ||
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On July 31 2014 23:08 Lord Tolkien wrote: I think it means TehPoofter is basically confirmed. Not sure about you here. Poofter, sure. Not that i want or need to be confirmed, but 666 all he kind of did was push on me. Do you really think he would try to bus me so hard? | ||
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On July 31 2014 23:21 Lord Tolkien wrote: Point. It's again possible, as my experience in my second TL mafia game had exactly that (they pointlessly pushed one another D1), but I may just be letting that color my opinion of this game. i'll bbl, anything you want to say to me now in the next, like, 5-15 minutes? Not much, really, besides that I kind of want to know your opinion on meat know, especially since you were there day 1, when the main wagons were on.him and the other meat. | ||
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On July 31 2014 23:32 Lord Tolkien wrote: His play is vaguely like what it was last game, the issue is I don't think having two identically poor playstyles is...good. He may have just been lurking and trying to keep both himself and DC alive. What with their concerted push onto you...it's confusing to read him given his past meta. If I didn't play with him last game, I would read him scum partner to DC, and both scum were spotted D1, with DC being the sacrificial lamb. Lol, yeah, this and the fact I thought there were more votes on meatpudding was the reason why I was so paranoid he was town. Now that the flip happened, I gotta reread some people and see where I stand. | ||
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On July 31 2014 23:43 Lord Tolkien wrote: There were more votes on DC since like I swapped my vote on him, tho. Not sure how it looked previously, but I think DC was def set to be lynched. This doesn't check out I think. Or are you saying you miscounted the votes. In which case, O_o Nonono, yeah, I just miscounted for some reason. | ||
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On July 30 2014 11:54 DCLXVI wrote: Oh man I know I just went off on Teemursu on this if you don't follow up on this or post your opinions too I will not be happy. Battery still holding up. Not sure what to think of this. | ||
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On August 01 2014 00:41 GlowingBear wrote: Nah, to be honest, meatpudding looked townie, even >>>>BLUEISH<<<< LMFAO | ||
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GlowingBear I think the way he goes from town, townier, townest with GB is him kind of following the town's general read on GB and him trying to pocket GB. I feel more at ease when I'm reading GB as town, tbh. On July 30 2014 02:12 DCLXVI wrote: You have proven me mafia twice now, why don't you back up your words with a vote? looking suspicious there glowingbear better step up your game. On July 30 2014 04:51 DCLXVI wrote: Some scum do just sit back and ask questions about other people/the game, not actually contributing much GlowingBear. It was a decent way to get the real conversation started however, and now that everyone is here (except meatpudding?) we can actually play. On July 30 2014 05:49 DCLXVI wrote: If time is the concern how about posting just the top 1 mafia/town tehpoofter? For me Glowingbear is easily the top town, between getting the town started working and keeping it on track. I would be interested to hear your opinions on people GB. ##Vote Tehpoofter He then goes to talk about GB as if he kind of "knew" that GB is town. I don't really see scum partner talking about his other scum partner like this. I might be wrong, but right now I'm holding GB pretty high up in the town list On July 30 2014 14:26 DCLXVI wrote: Teemursu you have said several times you suspect Seeyalater, is there a reason why you don't use your vote? Are you waiting till you are more sure or for GlowingBear to start the wagon rolling? meatpudding On July 31 2014 07:46 DCLXVI wrote: Mainly because I think teemursu is more likely to be mafia. Meatpuddings posts have been sparce and subpar, but that could be attributed to an uninterested vanilla as well as a lurking mafia. Teemursu I have a strong feeling of scum. That being said, Teemursu is at least talking and giving some information whereas Meatpudding is completely useless to the town, I can see why people would rather see him go. This is kinda interesting. I think I asked him about this (why is he the first over the latter one?) and I don't think I got an answer before. Idk if the math adds up, but did his vote matter in the end? He could've just thrown meat to the wolves (lel) when he knew that he was going down (or weakly bus knowing that either one of them will go down either way). JennyHell On July 30 2014 04:51 DCLXVI wrote: Some scum do just sit back and ask questions about other people/the game, not actually contributing much GlowingBear. It was a decent way to get the real conversation started however, and now that everyone is here (except meatpudding?) we can actually play. We actually did get some information from jennyhell from your question. We can expect her to be attentive and on the ball, if she starts lurking we should look into it. Very minimal interaction, kinda awkward too, but most likely he wanted to keep his options open, since she was trolling some with Banks, and I'm not sure if people town read her as much as everyone did later. lilwade This is very interesting. He's all like "Are you sure about what you just said, huh?" and then does two things after, one of which was to immediately "accuse" him AND then later stop his push on Banks. First kind of implies lilwade being town, and the second mafia, but I think he most likely stopped pushing Banks because people were generally reading Banks as town. On July 30 2014 05:49 DCLXVI wrote: Are you sure about that? He says he will come up with a list of his ideas on people, then posts mostly spam afterwards. Maybe he wasn't joking about mafia on mafia action? Tehpoofter Going to save everyone's time and skip this confirmed wolfie. <3 Lord Tolkien Had ZERO interaction with Tolkien. This is someone I will focus rereading a bit. Seeyalater On July 30 2014 11:54 DCLXVI wrote: Oh man I know I just went off on Teemursu on this if you don't follow up on this or post your opinions too I will not be happy. As I said before, I'm not really sure what to think of this, he never voted or pushed on Seeyalater. I kind of want to hear from Seeyalater, since he said the following, which makes me consider that mafia tried to push the idea that there was one mafia between us two, while we're both town: On July 31 2014 16:42 Seeyalater wrote: I'll get to other posts in a little bit(was busy for a few hours practicing DaS2 speedruns), but I have also noticed that both of us are getting pushed for not voting for each other when it was still early in the day. This is kind of the reason why I started leaning more town on Seeyalater. I kind of have to wait and hear his answer on who pushed him, though. | ||
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On August 01 2014 01:07 JennyHell wrote: Gooooooooooooooooood morning, and my my my what a good morning it is! 1 down, boys! This is awesome! That brutal description though of the death, eek! Let's see what horrors the night phase brings. Also, we can all talk during a night phase, wooot. Yeah, pretty weird, huh? | ||
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On August 01 2014 00:50 GlowingBear wrote: There is a mafia between you. I'm trying to figure out who. Source: vote count Idk if this is true yet, since the votes towards the end weren't consolidated by that much. I'll leave the vote logic to Banks and he's probably the only one I can trust about it. | ||
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On August 01 2014 01:36 GlowingBear wrote: Wait, what? Votes were 4 on meatpudding (set to be lynched) and 4 on 666. You don't think this is consolidated? Basic vote logic: not considering a little WIFOMy scenario, mafia wouldn't probably vote on themselves. Therefore, lets check people who are voting on someone else. That leaves only you and Seeyalater. Meatpudding decided not to vote on himself so an ok logic. In the end, it was 5-3. It's not a WIFOM scenario, mafia vote on mafia all the time if they see their member go down. If what you said was true 100% of the time and ONLY town voted on 666, from my PoV the mafia team would be 100% confirmed Seeyalater and meatpudding, and Idk if that is the case yet. | ||
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On August 01 2014 01:45 GlowingBear wrote: Yeah, I do understand what you say, but you gotta admit that the probability of what I've brought is higher. In the end it was 5-3 because I switched from meatpudding to 666. Check my filter and my reasoning. Top town now? BUT MAFIA KILL MEATPUDDING HE IS BLUUUUUE No, I get that, and I'm not calling you mafia (check my post about 666's interactions), but your vote kind of makes the least amount of difference, because meat looked like he was going down anyway. And I do n't know the probability of what you're proposing. Mafia is a game about reads, not probability. If you go by probability only, all games would only have like one possible outcome (obviously the extreme scenario, but you get my point?). | ||
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On August 01 2014 02:12 JennyHell wrote: Ok, 3 things, while I nom on some bacon and cheese risotto. 1. What the bleep is WIFOM, never heard that abbreviation before. 2. To me noone is confirmed town apart from myself. Confirmed means 100% positive, and I can't even say I am about my husband. 3. Meatpudding, take this nightphase to explain to us the logic you were trying to put forth. Why did you go so hard on Teemu, why did you decide to defend someone else than yourself when you were both on the block? http://wiki.mafiascum.net/index.php?title=WIFOM Basically it's saying like, Ok, I am town because I would never kill someone who reads me as town (in the night). You could say it's a WIFOM, because you're using reverse psychology/you did it just because you could say that now. That person then could respond that, well, you could be mafia making those kills, making me look bad and push on me by saying that I killed that person in the night so that I could say what I said. Then, reverse reverse reverse psychology. etc etc etc. It's basically an endless loop that's based on reverse reverse reverse reverse reverse reverse reverse psychology. | ||
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On August 01 2014 02:33 GlowingBear wrote: @Vizzini Never go against a Brazilian when death is on the line Huehuehuehue Huehuehue Hu3 7x1 X_x lolwut | ||
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On August 01 2014 02:26 GlowingBear wrote: Yeah I get it. But what in trying to say is that mafia is more likely to vote for a townie than vote for a mafia an keep the vote there. You may base you play solely on reading people's posts, but you should have what I said in mind. Obviously it's one of the things to keep in mind when evaluating someone, I'm just saying that I don't think the scum team from my perspective should 100% be Seeyalater and meatpudding (of which both are great cop checks tonight). | ||
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On August 01 2014 02:44 Tehpoofter wrote: Good thing ur not medic I'm a terrible save. Jenny like super confirmed. Good job on Roman numeral guy. That means we have three lunches to get it right. Meatface/seeyalater and maybe teemu wins 80%of games. You first two need to start spewing town. I think the last is seeyalater. We killed mafia day 1 ladies I'm so proud!!!!!!! Well, as she said, no one's confirmed, but based on day 1, you did the most to push on 666, I think, which makes you pretty towny in my eyes? Also, it's even better if you don't think I'm the medic. | ||
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On August 01 2014 04:13 GlowingBear wrote: You're hinting you are the medic when we have no idea who can be medic. It didn't sound like you were trying to take a bullet so... Why saying that? If I misread anything let me know... I slept too little and I am not absorbing information very well lol I think you're being silly again, like you were with Koshi... Nothing that I say tonight I think will make mafia think I'm a blue too much, mostly because I'm not sure how I can hint at it. At least I can confuse them a little bit and try to make their rolehunting a little more difficult. Too bad I had to explain this openly, though. | ||
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On August 01 2014 04:19 JennyHell wrote: Haha, some of the logic of people is just so wacko. Why even call Teemu out for it when others did it multiple times during d1? It just doesn't make sense. Stop trying to help mafia by clearing their questionmarks out for them. I'm not saying it's a good thing that I would be cleared to mafia, but I'm not saying it's a bad thing either. LOL. | ||
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On August 01 2014 04:21 GlowingBear wrote: I'm not accusing you of anything, it was a genuine question. There is a high possibility of this being an all vanilla set up. Pretty sure Haru loved the game hosted by slam. If it's a genuine question, what else do you think you're going to get out of it besides a simple "'No"? | ||
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On August 01 2014 04:22 GlowingBear wrote: Saying someone is blue daytime =\= saying someone is blue night time. I don't think mafia is stupid enough for believing that hint from Teemu. No shit, but it's going to confuse them more and go off thinking about all kinds of WIFOM. It''s not bad for town, it's bad for mafia best case scenario. I really don't understand why you're harping on this. Like even the fact that I'm explaining this like I'm a VT is going to make mafia really consider if I would have the balls to do it as a role, etc. | ||
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On August 01 2014 04:28 Seeyalater wrote: Alright Teemu this is the post I was reffering to when I talked about someone pushing on me for not voting for you. However, when going thru Lilwade's filter(yay for finding the button), I see that he was one of the first people to put Clockwork at the top of their scum list, and if I'm not mistaken, the first to vote for him. Unless he commited to a really early bussing on Clockwork, I'm feeling really good about wade right now, and the above post was most likely just him trying to pressure me to come up with more info. Hmm, this is interesting. I'll think more on this tomorrow, my brain isn't really working right now because I'm focusing more on HS + I'm pretty tired. | ||
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On August 01 2014 04:44 GlowingBear wrote: By the way, should we lynch meatpudding day2? We have the whole next day to figure that out, why do you ask now and from us like this? | ||
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On August 01 2014 04:48 JennyHell wrote: = is an equal sign, no? 1 plus 1 EQUALS 2. This is just confusing. =/=, !=, == or ≠ means "does not equal". | ||
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On August 01 2014 04:56 JennyHell wrote: Lemme guess, it's part of some ridiculous math language? If so, let me just say.. I didn't go to cambridge for maths. 1 ≠ 2. Not too ridiculous, is it? | ||
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On August 01 2014 05:01 GlowingBear wrote: Jesus, why are you overreacting??? We also have a whole night, why not discuss this? The more we discuss the more we get close to mafia. Doesn't matter if we will have a night kill or not. We aren't helping them finding blue, anyway. I'm not overreacting, but you seem to be. | ||
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On August 01 2014 05:14 Tehpoofter wrote: HAI GUYS I'm here. Hai Banks. Anything you want to talk about before I head off to bed (once I manage to get myself tos top playing Hearthstone as well)? | ||
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On August 01 2014 05:19 Seeyalater wrote: After examining Clockwork's filter, here's some things that seems to have stuck on for me, and I'd like to discuss so I can try to made heads or tails. Now I've already said lilwade was the first to vote on him/early pushers, which mades me heavily town read wade for now. Next point, Clockwork had some very early townie reads on GB and Jenny. Clock pushed heavily on Poofter the few times he was active, even going as far as voting on him early on, though he rescinded quickly. He then hopped on the teemu being scum bandwagon, going as far as to post some of his longest posts on said subject. Then votes hor him, and pushes on him for not voting for someone who he was pushing on, aka moi. Then in a weird fashion after I ask Poofter to elaborate on his reads, he accuses me of not elaborating "like teemu." Which consists of most of his interaction with me. And then , when asked about MP, whom he had never really(if at all) mentioned before, he called him either a lazy town or lurking mafia. When asked why he wouldn't change his vote from Teemu to MP, he says because he "personally" sees teemu as top scum, even though he sees why lots of others see him as top scum. And finally, he never even mentions Tolkien after time began. So, most importantly, what do you actually make of all of this? What alignments do you think myself, lilwade, and meatpudding are? Who do you think is mafia? | ||
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On August 01 2014 05:24 Tehpoofter wrote: I need to read up I kinda just read the part where RomanNumeralGuy was Mafia.... So like I have a plan. ITs a good one. I think. Going to read up and update my BANG MARRY KILL... just like everyone else should. share plan plize | ||
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Just going to leave by telling the mafia that you kind of chose the wrong person to try to miss lynch. Gn. <3 | ||
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On August 01 2014 13:45 Lord Tolkien wrote: We have 9 players. But if there was 3 mafia, it would mean LYLO D2 if we had gotten it wrong D1. Yeahno. 1 more mafia. Oh right, I forgot to think about the numbers for even a moment and just kind of presumed that there's three mafia in game. #dumbtells | ||
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On August 01 2014 13:51 Lord Tolkien wrote: What with him going on and on about another mafia partner on a mafia meatpudding. <_< wat wat | ||
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On August 01 2014 14:04 Lord Tolkien wrote: Oh, this? Maybe, idk. It would be hilarious to essentially have a dead role. Balancewise that SOUNDS plausible. But it's complete and utter speculation so it's useless to town. I said it before, DO NOT SPECULATE ABOUT ROLES (mafia included here). It's kinda useless and misleading unless we get a claim. It's like the whole stupid vigi speculation you saw last game D2 after I was shot. Completely and totally irrelevant and does nothing but sidetrack town from actual scumhunting No, I agree, it's useless to speculate on it. I just wanted to ask if it's possible. | ||
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On August 01 2014 14:36 Seeyalater wrote: Also why are we just assuming MP is mafia now O.O Like, yes he is my top mafia, but I can't say I'm 100% sure of that... Who would you lynch over meat at this point? | ||
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On August 01 2014 14:56 meatpudding wrote: Hey guys how's everyone feeling? After lynching mafia, I bet everyone is like they just came out from the salt mines after working there for six months. | ||
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On August 01 2014 15:02 meatpudding wrote: Oh, it's ok. I don't have school until monday so I should be around for most of the day. EOD is 12 midnight for me which is convenient. As weird as it sounds I'm often asleep by then, because I had some 8am starts this week. Let's start by you letting us know who the final mafia is. Still me? lawl. | ||
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On July 31 2014 14:02 meatpudding wrote: Lol. And I have less time this game. EOD is 12 midnight my time, which is convenient. As weird as is sounds I might be asleep by then because I have some 8am starts during the week. On August 01 2014 15:02 meatpudding wrote: Oh, it's ok. I don't have school until monday so I should be around for most of the day. EOD is 12 midnight for me which is convenient. As weird as it sounds I'm often asleep by then, because I had some 8am starts this week. Why does it sound so weird? Actually, this does sound so weird. | ||
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On August 01 2014 15:07 meatpudding wrote: Gw on catching him btw. You only sheeped poof's vote but I'll bang you for that. I have a feeling about my MBK... but right now I'd like to see more from GB and lilwade. I had my vote on you EOD. Also GB basically hammered the mafia. | ||
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On August 01 2014 15:08 Teemursu wrote: Why does it sound so weird? Actually, this does sound so weird. FTR, not calling you mafia because of this. I just thought it was funny, since for a moment I was like, "wait, am I on the early pages of this game? | ||
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Didn't he? Wasn't it 4-4 with meat going to get lynched, and then GB changed his vote to 666? | ||
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On August 01 2014 15:15 Lord Tolkien wrote: No, it was 4-3 on meat, then I swapped to DC, then DC voted meat. Glowing made a last minute change in voting that didn't affect the outcome. 4-3. You swapped on DC, making it 3-4. DC swapped to meat, making it 4-4, still having it so that DC is going to get lynched? Then GB makes it 5-3? I thought Banks corrected me earlier when I said this and that I was wrong. | ||
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On July 31 2014 13:15 HaruRH wrote: Vote Count – Day 1 Teemursu (2): Tehpoofter (0): meatpudding (4): Glowingbear, seeyalater, seeyalater (0): lilwade (0): DCLXVI (3): Tehpoofter, lilwade, JennyHell Not voting (0): none Currently, Meatpudding is set to be lynched with 4 votes. Please contact the mods if the vote count is incorrect. Thank you! Day 1 will end in (14:00 GMT (+00:00)). I apologise if the votecount comes late, it is nearly impossible to do votecount on mobile. After this, Lord Tolkien switches to 666, making it 3-4, making it so that 666 is going to get lynched with the current votes. On July 31 2014 13:57 Lord Tolkien wrote: And nevermind, meat has been talking. Hmm. Alright, for now, #vote DCLXVI Then, 666 changes his vote to meatpudding, making it 4-4, DC still getting lynched with the current votes because Tolkien voted on him before, making it 3-4 on 666 before votes are tied. On July 31 2014 14:10 DCLXVI wrote: ##Unvote ##Vote MeatPudding Then, GB changes his vote, making it 3-5, and changing nothing because DC is still getting lynched. On July 31 2014 20:07 GlowingBear wrote: I'm still considering votes. Meatpudding is at least trying to not get lynched. 666 left his vote and went off. He looks somehow confident that meatpudding will die instead if him. Doesn't look townie to me. With 2 wagons and possible 3 mafia, it's easy for mafia to change votes, specially with a consolidated wagons like this. Switching from 666 to meatpudding will be easy and won't raise signals of mafia move. This makes me think that meatpudding is probably town and 666 mafia, or they are both townies. Since there is not enough time to check other people and vote the correct wagon, I'd rather vote 666 ##Unvote ##Vote: DCLXVI Tolkien is 100% correct and I was originally correct as well (before Banks came in and ruined everything). GB's vote mattered the least and he never hammered on mafia. | ||
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On August 01 2014 15:29 GlowingBear wrote: Oh, it seems that is the case, then. I always thought meatpudding got the majority before I switched... This is what I thought d1 for no reason as well, LOL. Then I realised I was wrong in the beginning of n1 and then Banks came to tell me that you hammered a mafia. | ||
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On August 01 2014 15:17 meatpudding wrote: Pardon if I missed it, but I didn't see anyone put forward a good case about 666. Why are you stuck on there not being a long post of why 666 was mafia? It's like, do you need a justification for why we lynched 666 and because you don't see one, it was unrightly for us to lynch him or something? There was a lot of suspicion on him because of he did scummy things and Banks (and I think lilwayne) called him out on them, in addition, he was very inactive. He was one of the better lynch candidates, and say, we just happened to be lucky and hit on mafia. Why do you now sound like you have a problem with that? | ||
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On August 01 2014 15:12 meatpudding wrote: If you'd like to do that, take the time to understand why I was defending 666's argument. He wasn't the only one to say that, maybe he was sheeping from what was being said by others. Well I thought he was right and at the time he was town to me. I still think Teemu's vibe is to argue against other's reads but making too few insightful reads himself. And finally about 666, I thought he put forward a better case than anyone did against him. Town needs to step it up! | ||
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On July 30 2014 13:30 Teemursu wrote: This is a mafia post. I mean, what's the point of this? Why don't you first see if he does or doesn't and then push on him? Feels like you're trying to preemptively justify your push on him. I just remembered what I thought of this post day 1. Reminds me that I think Seeyalater is actually still leaning town. | ||
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On August 01 2014 15:58 meatpudding wrote: I think it's important like who was pushing it and who was indecisive? And then among those who pushed it what here they trying to say. Jenny for example feels a little less towny because she didn't argue as well as she had shown earlier. Then you should look at that and work on figuring it out, instead of complaining that there wasn't a case on 666 and that "town should step it up". | ||
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On July 31 2014 18:08 meatpudding wrote: I wanted to make sure because he wasn't on your list. Important for me to see where your standing is. What I really wanted to ask is how well do you think of him as a wagon? Meat, I want you to have some followup on this interaction. You asked a bunch of questions and disappeared EOD when you could've possibly get lynched. Why is/was Jenny's read on 666 so important to you? | ||
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On August 01 2014 17:18 Tehpoofter wrote: I'm going to bed and hoping that what Meatface said was a dream and I didn't really hear someone in the game say that. Jenny (the wifey) isn't dying tonight listen to her shes town. If this is my last night in the game as a pr I want you guys to know we got this and there is most likely 1 mafia. Look at who tries to figure it out and who just rides the "easy things" Remember there could be GodFather's but thats not something to worry about until later. I'm going to be so mad if you actually die tonight as PR and it's because a medic didn't save you. | ||
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You said that meatie had at least defended himself and 666 kinda left off after leaving his vote on meat, which was the reason you switched your vote from meat to 666. 1) How do you think meat defended himself? Well or badly? Which posts of his defense convinced you to change your vote? 2) Why didn't you vote on 666 earlier? The reasons you gave happened way before the very close of EOD (meaty started lurking again and THEN you give the reason of him "at least defending himself"), and yet you were flipfloppy about meaty/666 before Tolkien hammered 666, which you then followed up with your "hammer" vote. What I'm suspicious of is that you actually voted on your mafia partner when it was still too late to get meaty miss lynched and that's why you kinda gave a weakish town read/flip-flop on meatypie. | ||
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On August 01 2014 00:50 GlowingBear wrote: There is a mafia between you. I'm trying to figure out who. Source: vote count You also said this with quite a bit of certainty, but once I simply said "mafia votes on mafia all the time", you go back and don't pursue this as much, instead, you ask others in a general manner, "guise, r we lynchen meetpuddiwn tomorrow, rite??". | ||
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On August 02 2014 05:55 Tehpoofter wrote: I'm going to make a case on everyone in this game. I need to figure out who I can trust. o/ Unless I fall asleep in the bus, though. I'll be posting some, but the Magic Pro.tour has my priority #1 atm. You can trust me though because I'm not mafia. | ||
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That's fine, I'm not going to be lynched because I'm not mafia, and you know it, Banks. 80) | ||
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On August 02 2014 08:43 Tehpoofter wrote: GlowingBear GlowingRed - You are playing in such a different fashion from other games I've seen you in and makes me think you might be mafia. I missed Tolkien's description of how the votes went down So your vote is now basically just a flavor vote because MeatPolice wouldn't have voted on himself so he was likely to switch to the RNG guy at some point anyways. So hoping on late wasn't actually to hammer which was what I was giving you some town points for (and taking them from Tolkien) I now am thinking the reads you have been giving may not be from just a silly point of view but might be from a mafia point of view. I said it at the start of the day that your case with the Jenny/Seeya Connection was very weird/odd. It didn't seem to hold water. It also was already making connections between people that frankly shouldn't have been made at the time. I also think you got way overly defensive when I said I was vigi and going to shoot you in the night. + Show Spoiler + On August 01 2014 08:23 GlowingBear wrote: ARE YOU KIDDING ME? Do you all read me as mafia??? Really??? Wtf I give up The kind of attitude was silly from an offhand comment. You also are quick to want the day to just be on MeatPie and not really moving on from there. I think that your game play has been to throw scum on people and also the reasons you had from not being here in day 1 while probably all true felt like you wanted to have a good reason to be afk. I think you might be mafia with RNG and I'm going to see what kind of interaction you guys had. GB Can you explain why you reacted like you did to me threatening to shoot you? Can you also explain to me what your top 3 suspects are as mafia and why? Here are all posts by 666, where he mentioned GB. Just for you, Banks. On August 01 2014 01:08 Teemursu wrote: Confirmed scum's interactions with people and my thoughts GlowingBear I think the way he goes from town, townier, townest with GB is him kind of following the town's general read on GB and him trying to pocket GB. I feel more at ease when I'm reading GB as town, tbh. He then goes to talk about GB as if he kind of "knew" that GB is town. I don't really see scum partner talking about his other scum partner like this. I might be wrong, but right now I'm holding GB pretty high up in the town list | ||
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On August 02 2014 10:30 GlowingBear wrote: Poof, Seeyalater has got a lot of fluff on his posts which is a mafia trait. So, it makes me consider him as possible mafia. There's nothing remarkable coming from him. Lilwade has been lurking a lot and when he comes to the topic he contributes for nothing. It makes him possible mafia for it. Meatpudding has a long list of wrong traits. Lurking almost 36 hours on day one and bringing a terrible list, goes back to lurking? check On that list, gives free town pass to 666 with no reasoning whatsoever? check Refuses to vote the other wagon to save himself considering Teemu more scum than we considered 666? check Votes WITH flipped scum in a possible townie, possibly leading to a mislynch? check When asked to talk about Teemu, brings full case. When asked to talk about 666, quotes other people's opinion. When specifically asked to bring opinion regarding 666, refuses to do so (look at how many attempts I tried. Mafia is uncomfortable of talking about other mafia, that's why I always try to make people to talk about each other, specially when I believe both are mafia). check I thought I was the one who hammered 666. Vote count was confusing, as you know. I thought I would die because I would be confirmed town for that. You said you had a plan and talked about vigi, an impossible role in this game. I believed you were trying to draw suspicions on me so I wouldn't be killed at night. That was me faking being silly. Other than that, my posts were genuine thoughts. If you think they are silly, there's nothing I can do A lot of fluff? Maybe some Nothing remarkable? Disagree, I'm okay with his reads and actually don't think he's mafia. | ||
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Banks, I can't remember most of your cases, I'm not sure if that's because they're not memorable or if it's because I just woke up. | ||
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On August 02 2014 17:13 GlowingBear wrote: Teemu, poof asked for my top3 scum read when I have only one. It's okay if you disagree, as I see no other option right now So you don't think Seeyalater is mafia? | ||
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On July 30 2014 02:29 GlowingBear wrote: I guess you are right. ##Unvote ##Vote: tehpoofter On July 31 2014 15:39 GlowingBear wrote: Teemu this was the only post that felt scummy IMO. The others are fair. He isn't speaking much, I think he should be contributing more, but I'm okay with his pushes. He wouldn't be my second choice. Lilwade would probably be, but I have to filter dive him to have a better idea. The only thing I remember from this guy is that the overreacted to poof in an unnatural way. On July 31 2014 14:14 GlowingBear wrote: Lol completely random. Care to explain before leaving? GB, you had almost no interaction with 666 yesterday. Also, how were you okay with pushes if you said you were reading me town? Rethinking everything, the first interaction you had with 666 makes you look hella suspicious, imo. | ||
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On August 03 2014 13:13 Seeyalater wrote: From the gut...? It just has felt like me and teemo have been on opposites of the same book. You know how most like, cellphone manuals and stuff, start from one side in 1 language, and a different one on the other side, and the in the middle it stops? I feel like that's how me and Teemu are right now. lol, if this guy isn't town, I don't know who is. | ||
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On July 30 2014 01:56 lilwade wrote: After a lunch date on the pier DCLXVI confirmed townie mehhh I can totes see 666 push on GB for not voting, and then lilwade following that up by kinda casting suspicion On July 30 2014 10:29 lilwade wrote: I get a leaning mafia vibe every time i go over his posts, at first I thought he was really town but now I think he is on the fence/leaning mafia This is kind of an interesting post. He hadn't talked or interacted with 666 at all until this point (well, besides the very first post), and I'm not sure hwy he switched from town to leaning mafia, really. Does anyone remember, if people were starting to cast suspicion on 666 at this point? On July 31 2014 05:06 lilwade wrote: It is the only read I get from all his posts combined, and the only vibe I get is scum. In his last few posts He questions Teemu trying to make him vote for seeyalater, almost as if he knew that it couldn't possibly hurt the Mafia His only posts that he put some thought into, were about spam and teemu sleeping. I will put DCLXVI and the top of my scum list and even ##Vote: DCLXVI Wait, wait, why did you have him as town in the first place then? You're reading someone town for talking about easy mechanics, kinda suspicious. aaand then you put him as your top town..? While he had only one post as contribution before this, and THAT wasn't the post that sold Tolkien as town? On July 31 2014 09:13 lilwade wrote: It gets better, you have basically thrown your whole day 1 away by not sticking to your gun about teemu? What is going on here you said he was heavily leaning mafia in you list and do not want to pursue it? This is the exact same agenda that 666 was pushing forward. On August 01 2014 11:25 lilwade wrote: People who dont strike me a town, but I am not willing to kill of just yet. Teemu - Good activity recently, the big problem his is you deflect a lot. Player x says i think thats scummy and you say well i think you are scummy for saying that. be more honest and open and be prepared to back yourself when someone asks why On August 03 2014 05:15 lilwade wrote: I am thinking that I do not agree with you on Teemu, He has been giving me a pretty townie read and think I am pretty sure he is, his start was meh so I get that you had suspicions about him. I do feel he stepped up in the last couple days though. I agree with you on meatsock, the guy has no desire to play, which almost makes me think he is town but I think he is more detrimental to the town then to the mafia. Kinda flip floppy, could you explain your reasons? Anyway, other posts by lilwayne were okay (posting reads etc or trolling/filler, which is less okay). I thought when people were saying that lilwayne was the first one to make a major push/case on 666 and I then because of it thought lilwayne was like some town god or something, but I've expressed my slight concerns about him above. | ||
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On August 03 2014 15:58 GlowingBear wrote: Lololololololol this bachelor party is amaing I can't get drinker than this are you town or mafia? be honest with me, GB :-) | ||
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On August 03 2014 16:07 Teemursu wrote: are you town or mafia? be honest with me, GB :-) HE IS AVOIDING ANSWERING THE QUESTION BECAUSE HE IS DRUNK. CONFIRMED MAFIA. | ||
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On August 03 2014 20:32 Tehpoofter wrote: wtf is this atrocity posing as a sentence? it's him hard claiming mafia. what else do you think pinching the hooch means? especially when blind tigers jerk suds onthe side, it CAN'T mean anything else if he's calling someone a rummy. | ||
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On August 04 2014 10:56 Tehpoofter wrote: TEEMU SEEYA WHERE ARE YOU LILWAYNE WTF Asleep. God Morgon! | ||
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On August 04 2014 12:59 Tehpoofter wrote: I have to let you guys know. The last mafia is SeeyaLater. He will be dying tomorrow we will win. I filter dove him earlier and will explain everything completely. You're welcome for the free win. Idon't agree. | ||
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