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On July 22 2014 10:50 Epishade wrote: But if you're host, that means you won't be able to post your shitty vote analysis reads and encrypted cop messages lol. /in I'm totally going to copcheck GlowingBear tonight | ||
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On July 29 2014 07:06 HaruRH wrote: You learn damn fast with a coach, so I wanna see how far can you go this game :D Awesome! Can't wait to start it | ||
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On July 29 2014 15:39 Teemursu wrote: Banks told me to play so I'm here.  I'm going to get you lynched. | ||
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On July 29 2014 15:27 lilwade wrote: I was just curious i saw glowingbear in two games  I thought his game would start later so I also signed up on showdown. I don't have enough courage to get out from that game because it is already starting in 7 hours and I think I would be a jerk if I get out. | ||
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On July 29 2014 16:02 Teemursu wrote: Hey, now, I know last game I promised to, but I promise I'll "talk to you at night" this game, honey.  I'll let you talk to me at night If you take me to that fancy Italian restaurant. Teemu, insomnia strikes hard today. Can we start the game already? | ||
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On July 29 2014 16:05 Teemursu wrote: Would not mind that at all. I'm doing absolutely nothing at work and I'M BORED. Ok, I'll give some reads: Teemu: null Poof: null Lilwade: null Seeyalater: null Jenny: null Roman numbers: null Tolkien: null Meatpudding: scum | ||
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On July 29 2014 16:41 Teemursu wrote: Now that DCLXVI is confirmed mafia, I'm pretty suspicious of you for giving a null read on him/her. I'm bad with maths, that's why I gave him a null read. I find suspicious the fact of you finding that suspicious. | ||
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On July 29 2014 19:29 Teemursu wrote: I bet you fell asleep and lied about your insomnia. Lynch all liars. I actually fell asleep lololololol | ||
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On July 29 2014 20:50 JennyHell wrote: You two are adorable, Teemu & Glow. When's the wedding and am I invited? Look, Teemu! Jenny finds me adorable, too! I'm flattered. You can be invited. You just need to say if you are scum or not in the game. | ||
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On July 29 2014 17:27 Teemursu wrote: What does I t g c G t mean? I'm so confused... I don't get it, is this like an encrypted message or something? ROFLMFAO! Haru, you have to remember them you were scum on that game. Complete newbies will believe that it is the right way to breadcrumb a power role Like I did  | ||
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On July 29 2014 21:50 marvellosity wrote: Breadcrumbing is so tedious. If someone doesn't believe my claim without breadcrumbs then either they're dumb or I've totally failed in looking like a townie. And if I'm fakeclaiming as mafia of course I have to have the same attitude. Marv's Insightful Tips #42 | ||
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On July 29 2014 23:28 Teemursu wrote: I'm town, GB, you have nothing to fear. Are you town? I'm also town. Therefore ##Vote: Teemursu Also, nice day1 flavour. Sounds like Saw movies. Haru = Jigsaw. We are screwed. | ||
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On July 29 2014 23:35 Teemursu wrote: Bitch, I was the first one to post -> confirmed town. I'm sorry. My grudge is eternal and it bypasses any confirmation. Do you think Jenny is a woman? I believe this is crucial to scum hunting | ||
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On July 29 2014 23:41 Teemursu wrote: I KNOW she is. I've played video mafia with her like once or twice. Why is it crucial? Think with me. Women are devil's creation, as said in popular belief. There is a guy named 666 here. So, this guy created Jenny and they are evil. If they are evil, they are scum. We found the mafia pair. Gg | ||
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On July 29 2014 23:47 Teemursu wrote: Did you think of this before the game started? No hahaha Just woke up from a quick nap. It's getting hard to face the day with only 3 hours of sleep | ||
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Take it as a compliment. | ||
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On July 30 2014 01:41 lilwade wrote: What's all this flapdoodle about, there is a new guy in town. Hello new guy. I suggest you vote Teemu for now | ||
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On July 30 2014 01:56 lilwade wrote: After a lunch date on the pier DCLXVI confirmed townie Pier is a place for pirates Pirates are mafia of the sea Both confirmed mafia. | ||
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On July 30 2014 02:12 DCLXVI wrote: You have proven me mafia twice now, why don't you back up your words with a vote? looking suspicious there glowingbear better step up your game. I guess you are right. ##Unvote ##Vote: tehpoofter | ||
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Jenny, from your experience on daily mafia, what's the difference between scum!jenny and town!jenny? | ||
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On July 30 2014 02:46 Teemursu wrote: This is a weird question to start the "actual" game with. What information are you expecting to get out of this question, specifically information that will help you figure out her alignment? Scum!jenny would lie about how she plays either alignment, so to get any helpful information, you have to know she is town. Kinda scummy. If we keep kidding all day long it will lead to a mislynch. I'd rather ask questions like this so we can gather some information. You may consider it true or false. If you consider it false, you may analyse how consciously she is trying to keep the appearances she brought on her answer. If I actually knew she was town, there would be no need to ask such question, Teemu | ||
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On July 30 2014 02:52 JennyHell wrote: Well, my experience isn't that extensive. I'm fairly new on DM. I've played 2 serious games and the rest have been small "fun games" with strange set ups, like Hearthstone cards. However, based on what others have told me, I seem more attentive and "on the ball" when I'm town compared to when I'm mafia. Oh, not that you will be able to tell here in text-form but apparantly I have no poker face. Said by someone during a game, although he was wrong and got shot by the vigi for saying it, when he was the medic. Oops? [B]Other than that, I can't give you much information to go at, because I'm still trying to figure it all out myself.[b] Now, if you instead take the perspective as a viewer instead of another player, I have an annoying mouth and a scummy smile that constantly throws people off. I am a giggly annoying girl with no clue what she's doing. So, read in to that what you like! What is "an annoying mouth"? Lol I don't know what to say about the bolded part, I guess it was a fair answer. | ||
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Just messing around . Although I'll keep my vote if he doesn't say anything 8 hours from now. | ||
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On July 30 2014 03:00 JennyHell wrote: Yeah, the hurtful comments of the chat still surprises me to date. I guess I'll just have to live with the fact that I have an "annoying mouth" whatever that person meant with it. Not like I can help the fact that I'm a happy person and tend to smile a lot. And by a lot, I mean aaaaaaaa loooooooot. I find "Annoying Mouth" a nice nickname! | ||
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On July 30 2014 03:13 JennyHell wrote: Well, I guess all night for me, isn't the same thing as all night for him. Still thinks he's sleeping though. I bet he won't be sleeping for 12 consecutive hours lol | ||
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On July 30 2014 03:19 JennyHell wrote: Annoying mouth is far from a "nice" nickname. It was obviously said to be insulting. Too bad for him that I will next DM game make sure my mouth is extra annoying. Not entirely sure how to accomplish that though. Any suggestions? Infinite duckface is an alternative | ||
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Ok, I'm going to do some work. I'll wait until people unlurk | ||
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On July 30 2014 03:41 Tehpoofter wrote: Claiming mafia day 1 is generally a bad strategy. Not claiming at all ##Unvote ##Vote: meatpudding | ||
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On July 30 2014 04:28 Seeyalater wrote: Hey y'all I'm awake and town! So that's good. Still heavily sick with the flu though. Also so far reading into the game I don't trust Teemu.... LOLOLOLOL take that, teemu! | ||
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On July 30 2014 03:54 Teemursu wrote: I like that you try to generate some discussion, but I think the question you asked is weird. What do you now think of her answer that she did give one? Too consciously trying to keep the appearance? Nope, she actually said nothing on her post. It shows she is cautious to tell us about her play style, but it looks like mor of a town paranoia than scum hiding. It's fine that you find that weird, but what would be a scum motive behind that question. Think about it. | ||
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On July 30 2014 04:47 JennyHell wrote: Do you expect people that are new to mafia in general to be able to say exactly how their play differentiate depending on what role they are when they haven't actually played enough to know themselves yet? Like, if you were to ask seeyalater the same question that you asked me, you'd probably get an even more empty answer, because he hasn't played any yet. It's not only what is said that is important, more so the way it is said. Or is that just me? Nope, and knowing that you are inexperienced, it's normal to be cautious when someone asks you that question. That's why I said you sounded more like townie paranoia than scum hiding. But you do agree that you said nothing on that post, right? | ||
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On July 30 2014 04:37 Seeyalater wrote: I don't know, he just seems a little TOO eager, you know what I mean? Like going off so hard to get people to like him(including cute pictures as well!) makes me not trust him too much. Not calling him mafia or anything, just my top scum from what has been happening here so far! Are you his partner Jenny? :o Lol wait. How can you not be calling him mafia or anything if you're saying he is your top scum read? | ||
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On July 30 2014 05:01 JennyHell wrote: My guess, he starts off reading everyone as town, trying to figure out who is scummy enough to be mafia. So he's saying they're leaning mafia, or the things they said are questionable for a town. Personally I start reading everyone as mafia, and see who proves to me they are towny and can be trusted enough to be in the town circle with me. But that's just my guess. I could be wrong. Why are you defending him instead of trying to pressure him to gather more information even if he is a complete mafia newbie? | ||
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On July 30 2014 05:18 Tehpoofter wrote: You could be pretending to seem interested in the game asking questions that have small amounts of value and not really caring about or sharing your analysis afterwards. Also why specifically just jenny? Why not ask others too? Doing it slowly, asking different questions, gathering information, bringing a small case soon. You don't think I've managed to get good information now? | ||
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I'm gonna bring my views of what I feel odd. A little case. Soon enough. Maybe not until tomorrow (IRL), because I'm kinda busy busy. I see nothing wrong with poof posts. And that's coming from a guy who felt pleasure of most lynching him last game | ||
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On July 30 2014 08:08 Seeyalater wrote: If you show me that 6 pack I'll never vote for you. ![[image loading]](http://blog-imgs-54-origin.fc2.com/s/i/x/sixpack749/Six-Pack-Beer-5.jpg) LOLOLOLOLOL | ||
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On July 30 2014 08:11 JennyHell wrote: Oh okay, so donkey town. Gotya! What? Donkey like... Stupid? Just because I was about to say that I don't find your mouth annoying | ||
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On July 30 2014 08:16 JennyHell wrote: You've seen my mouth? Now I'm a bit creeped out.. Did you hack in to the snapchat I sent to Poofter with my mouth on it?! Nah. You would be amazed if you knew how easy is to find someone's twitter typing little information on google search | ||
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Not creepy, you answered me that you had an annoying mouth and I was curious what that might be. Lol o.O | ||
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On July 30 2014 09:01 JennyHell wrote: Highly doubt you actually found me, since my twitter handle isn't even close to my handle here. https://mobile.twitter.com/Frintard Is that you? | ||
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I'll bring my visions soon enough. It's just the style I play. I mean, it's still the first 24 hours... | ||
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Took 2 seconds to find it. Not stalker at all. Googled: jennyhell daily mafia. Second link. | ||
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But I think you're OMGUSing, Jenny, mostly because I found your twitter | ||
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This post from Seeyalater caugt my attention: + Show Spoiler + On July 30 2014 04:37 Seeyalater wrote: I don't know, he just seems a little TOO eager, you know what I mean? Like going off so hard to get people to like him(including cute pictures as well!) makes me not trust him too much. Not calling him mafia or anything, just my top scum from what has been happening here so far! Are you his partner Jenny? :o Bolded part is weird. He says that he is not calling Teemu mafia but that he is his top scum. Which means that Teemu is probably mafia by his point of view? I know that maybe Seeyalater is trying to say that Teemu is leaning mafia, but this also means he is considering him as mafia. From the way I think, this is Seeyalater trying not to be compromised by his reads, not drawing undesired attention. It's him trying to give a read but not giving a read at all. If you're calling someone scum, you're calling someone mafia. Period. If you say that he is your top scum but that you're not calling him mafia, you're saying nothing about someone. Just looks like a mafia attempt to show contribution. And it's in this post that he starts his interaction with Jenny. It doesn't say much with just it alone, but you can view from this angle: if both are scum, by asking this, he is distancing from Jenny, trying to put both on two opposite poles where if one is mafia, another cannot be. + Show Spoiler + On July 30 2014 04:47 JennyHell wrote: Do you expect people that are new to mafia in general to be able to say exactly how their play differentiate depending on what role they are when they haven't actually played enough to know themselves yet? Like, if you were to ask seeyalater the same question that you asked me, you'd probably get an even more empty answer, because he hasn't played any yet. It's not only what is said that is important, more so the way it is said. Or is that just me? In this post by Jenny, you can see that she uses Seeyalater as example, in a way that, by defending her, she is also defending him against my accusation of saying nothing at all. Remember: this post alone is a weak reasoning. You have to consider all the interactions I'm going to post to get to the conclusion that they have a strong interaction. + Show Spoiler + On July 30 2014 04:55 Seeyalater wrote: Hey don't try to throw scum at me sister! To answer said question, I'm pretty sure no matter the alignment I'd play similarly day 1 to try to figure out who the scummiest people are. Now what I'd do with said info is different though, because as you've noticed I've yet to actually call anyone mafia, just trying to notice who seems the scummiest so far. Not sure if this is you being Mafia trying to throw off scum Jenny, or just a really defensive townie. This is a response from Seeyalater to Jenny. Notice how weird and overreacted that post came. Looks like an unnatural way of distancing, again. Now, after this distancing, look how easily he town reads Jenny: + Show Spoiler + On July 30 2014 05:07 Seeyalater wrote: I was trying to get a reaction from Jenny, who I've been on the fence about, but her recent reply above me seemed somewhat genuine, so I'd say she's my top town at the moment. Do you know which post made him get this read?: + Show Spoiler + On July 30 2014 04:59 JennyHell wrote: Sorry if it looked like I was trying to make you seem scummy. I was merely pointing out a flaw that I saw in the question he asked me. It really had nothing to do with you, just brought you in as a way to explain the way I viewed it. What, WHAT in this post is so townie that completely changes you perception regarding someone? Do you get how odd this is? Now, THIS IS THE MAIN POINT. Finding the odd contradictions from the first post I quoted from Seeyalater, I decided to push him on it (you can look my post on the nested quote). I've got a response. From him? NOPE, from Jenny! + Show Spoiler + On July 30 2014 05:01 JennyHell wrote: My guess, he starts off reading everyone as town, trying to figure out who is scummy enough to be mafia. So he's saying they're leaning mafia, or the things they said are questionable for a town. Personally I start reading everyone as mafia, and see who proves to me they are towny and can be trusted enough to be in the town circle with me. But that's just my guess. I could be wrong. Why didn't she let him answer my question? More than that, why is she somehow defending him instead of helping me pushing him? His post was odd, we needed to get more information from him. She decides to explain his attitude instead of trying to discover if he got mafia motives! This, for me, is a signal of a possible scum trying to defend his partner. He didn't even got the chance to explain himself BEFORE she posts this. This concludes my short case. I still prefer to Vote for meatpudding because we definitely need him talking. But if meatpudding comes ok to the thread and nothing more suspicious happens, I'm voting for one of these two. | ||
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On July 30 2014 13:08 Teemursu wrote: GB, I'm not going to read your case yet, and I know how you're going to feel like about that (based on last game), but you shouldn't make associative reads on unflipped players. Anyway, wanted to add up on Seeyalater. Like, he's being noncommittal at first (like Poofter called him out for), "agrees" a lot with people, and then makes a list of reads that kind of repeat the same old people have already said. I kind of tunneled hard for Vivax because of this last game, but saying stuff like "How odd.........." without calling a person is mafia is veeerryy scum indicative. You kind of imply that that person is mafia without actually calling them mafia, which lets you a) have your options open b) make it easy to defend yourself and c) not piss anyone off. Making a list like that so early in the game is suspicious as well. I rarely see town have many "good" reads, and I've seen mafia more often sheep everyone's general direction early on. Making a list like that rings to me either fabricating reads or sheeping (which I've pointed out before). Teemu, if you read my "short" case, you'll identify that I AM calling them mafia for that. The ending will make it sure for you. Read from main point to the ending. You'll see that I am not voting them because I prefer to vote lurkers. | ||
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On July 30 2014 13:20 Teemursu wrote: I did read it and I agree that there are some scummy things you pointed out, but I don't think they're BOTH mafia and I wouldn't approach it from that perspective. Hope you didn't think that post was about you, I was talking about Seeyalater. Oh ok. I thought you were talking about my case. Nvm | ||
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On July 30 2014 13:23 Teemursu wrote: GB, what do you think of the people who gave you that very early town read on you? Do you feel like you were trying to "put town on the right track" or something even after the initial question to Jenny? I remember someone town read you for that and I think it's kinda BS (not that I'm calling you mafia). I don't remember those posts, I usually don't like them thanks to you. Anyway, saying that I was trying to put town on the right track is ok. Town reading me only for that is strange. I'll definitely re-read the thread to catch those things, if it doesn't get more than 40 pages lol. Give me your opinion on that, also. | ||
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On July 30 2014 19:33 meatpudding wrote: Hi Teemu. meat - top town or tt for short banks - town lover jen - the devil is a woman but she's not evil 666 - definitely evil wade - using some pressure cya - too cautious tea - first to post first to kill (we're no strangers to love) gb - logic infallible therefore must have perfect info Lolololol this list is terrible | ||
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On July 31 2014 02:44 Seeyalater wrote: Hmm, was waiting for you to reply as to why that list was terrible, or about what me and Jenny said about your case study, but I guess I'll ask, could you elaborate further? Thank you for asking that. I was waiting for this inquiry. I actually only read Jenny's reply. I have a busy day today and I have yet to read yours. But Iime Jenny's rey, sounded leaning town. I only need her to tell me her top scums right now. About the list, I want you to see how meatpudding brings no reasoning at all when posting his reads. "666 = evil but townie"? Says you are pushing but I am mafia because I have infallible logic due to perfect information? I could town pass anyone with perfect information, so I wouldn't need to push both of you like that. Town passing for no reason is exactly what he does in that list, and that's why it is terrible. What I'm trying to say is be could at least post a brief reasoning, even if wrong, like he did in my scum read. He, instead, reads multiple people as town for no reason at all. Just for the sake of "contributing" | ||
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On July 31 2014 03:36 Teemursu wrote: Also the activity level of this game seems to be like waaaay lower than the other newbie game I played in.. I am not posting as much because I'm really, really busy. I can't analyse the thread now. I'm only keeping up. What do you think of poof, Teemu? | ||
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On July 31 2014 03:35 Teemursu wrote: You vote on me without explaining why you think I'm mafia, without addressing any of the 90% of the content I came up with earlier? How do you suppose I'm able to read you as nothing but scum? He wrote a case on you before that post if I remember correctly | ||
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On July 31 2014 04:38 JennyHell wrote: O lilwade, lilwade! wherefore art thou lilwade? Seriously, where are you and give us more to go from, because you're looking mighty fine to be among the top scum right now. Jenny, give me your 2 top scums with brief reasoning please. | ||
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On July 31 2014 04:59 JennyHell wrote: I'm currently trying to go through it all again, seeing if there are groups formed somewhere. It's extremely difficult but I have some groups already in my head, I'll bring them up in another post. To answer GB. My current 2 top scum is lilwade and DC, They were both active from the start but have fallen off. My guess, new players to mafia doesn't want to draw too much attention to themselves so they're trying to coast along without disagreeing too much with other people, which is what lilwade was doing with almost apologizing for his reads and I don't want use the word sheeping but agreeing with others reads without bringing much to the table himself. DC's reads have been fuller and more to point, "better"? if you will, than lilwade's, but I dislike his sudden lack of activity and hope he will chime in soon. If I were to give a third it'd be meatpudding, for barely being here at all and the time he was here he didn't give much. Alright, I like you. Putting you inside my town circle. As for the others, their activity is okay, IMO. I only find meatpudding activity very low. He kept saying he was catching up, so I was expecting a bigger read, but then he gives us that terrible list and goes back into lurking. I'm keeping my vote on him. Teemu, it's not your work, but can you quote the posts you've made about Seeyalater? I'm asking that because I'm not filter diving anyone today due to lack of time. | ||
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On July 31 2014 05:28 Teemursu wrote: You should definitely do your usual "imply someone is a blue during n1 and remember it's a bad idea" again. :D (hopefully not on me, though). LOL I'd never say that I think that meatpudding is probably blue. | ||
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I WASN'T saying that they were scummy together based on a single interaction. I said both were scummy AND that it would make sense if they were partners. They have specific reasons. 1) I called Seeyalater scum because of a post he says someone is scum but not mafia. Sounded like he wasn't too much involved and felt very mafia motivated. 2) I called Jenny scum because it felt completely unnatural they say she jumped trying to justify Seeyalater's attitude instead of scum hunting. These are separate reasons that could be solely used by their on. Interactions that I've brought we're only to support this vision. Btw, don't bother posting, you two guys, we've already got your reasonings. I'm just explaining my case since its primary argument is not based on associations. | ||
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Why aren't people voting meatpudding? | ||
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I've been saying that over and over! You're trying to kill people we have information to work on but you're letting lurkers that we have no information living! Come ON! Votecount, please! We need to know what wagons are happening | ||
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On July 31 2014 12:00 Tehpoofter wrote: People who are making excuses real or otherwise and I know are better than that! [donkey]Glowingbear[/donkey] - No offense but your case on Jenny/Seeya pair was pretty much reaching and showed you're not focused. I'm going to give you the pass of not being here today but like you need to step it up day 2... If GB doesn't step it up just lynch him. His cases should be better than that as town. Making associative reads that early as the main part of your first case is just not something you should be doing. [pink]Lord Tolkien[/pink] - I think you're town and just not getting to put a bunch of time into the game but you can't ride that the whole way through until lylo you're going ot be a question even if you are town and we might lose from it. So get it together. You would make an excellent cop check just saying I might check you. These two need to do a lot better than they are. I read what they're saying as town I just feel like they're not playing to their potential. They're currently not getting any action and if you want me to bang you step it up please. On July 31 2014 07:01 GlowingBear wrote: Tolkien, on the case I brought I specifically said they were distancing from each other and then I said that how unnatural was Jenny trying to "defend" someone who looked scummy. I WASN'T saying that they were scummy together based on a single interaction. I said both were scummy AND that it would make sense if they were partners. They have specific reasons. 1) I called Seeyalater scum because of a post he says someone is scum but not mafia. Sounded like he wasn't too much involved and felt very mafia motivated. 2) I called Jenny scum because it felt completely unnatural they say she jumped trying to justify Seeyalater's attitude instead of scum hunting. These are separate reasons that could be solely used by their on. Interactions that I've brought we're only to support this vision. Btw, don't bother posting, you two guys, we've already got your reasonings. I'm just explaining my case since its primary argument is not based on associations. If you think that this case is not paying attention to the thread at that moment, I don't know what is to pay attention anymore. Anyway, tomorrow will be an easier day. | ||
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On July 31 2014 12:18 Tehpoofter wrote: Do you think you're making the best cases/playing the best town you can? I believe that was the best case I could present at the moment it was presented. More than actually pointing out scums, it served the purpose of make people bring more information to the thread. I could read Jenny as town after that, and also could you. I still have to read seeyalater's filter after that, though. It is impossible to make very good cases so early on day1. I thought that sharing this idea and gather information from the reactions was better than to stay quiet... | ||
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On July 31 2014 13:03 Teemursu wrote: Didn't someone read mp town for his terrible liszt post? Did you? I'm afraid he can be but be really needs to unlurk | ||
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On July 31 2014 13:22 meatpudding wrote: Hey guys I'm back. Anyone want to talk? You can start by telling us why you are a bad lynch and who you think that should be lynched. | ||
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On July 31 2014 13:36 meatpudding wrote: You know why I think I shouldn't be lynched, we need to find scum. Do we all consider lilwade to be town now? Why hasn't Jenny voted Teemu when she said he was scummy? You do understand that that list you've brought sounds scummy ad that you lurking all the way also sounds scummy, right? You gotta make us believe that there are better options and saying just that isn't helping you | ||
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On July 31 2014 13:46 meatpudding wrote: Sorry my posts are so short. I have only limited time each day but I'm catching up with the thread. Hey I'm not the only lurker *ahem* Town plays to find who is mafia and what are they doing. Scum play is to lead to mislynches until you win. What Tea is doing is to try to talk people into committing too hard or contradicting themselves. Town always contradict and make mistakes on d1. His posts are not clearly scummy nor are they clearly town, leading me to believe he is scum waiting for the right wagon. On the great GB. I think he is another type of scum. What he is doing is to try to be objective and logical while building up a case. I think he's trying too hard, and exaggerating a bit much for me to find it believable. This is scum trying to mislead town. 666 and cya I will need to filter dive some more. Right now I would still prefer to leave my vote on tea if it were an option. I'd like you to specifically filter dive 666 and bring your read on him. | ||
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On July 31 2014 14:00 meatpudding wrote: This quote from cya sums up how I feel on 666 so far. All this tells me is that cya is not scum if 666 is, because he would be too carful and not "accidentally" forget him. I ask you to filter dive 666, you bring cya's post. You said you have to filter dive him. Suddenly you see his vote in Teemu and thinks that just because that he is town. Why bringing up cya's? I understand he shares the view but I asked your opinion, you're just reproducing someone's, which is easy. More than that, you bring another unrelated person to the conversation when we are talking about you. | ||
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On July 31 2014 14:10 DCLXVI wrote: ##Unvote ##Vote MeatPudding Lol completely random. Care to explain before leaving? | ||
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On July 31 2014 14:22 meatpudding wrote: I did say I needed to read both cya's and 666's filter. I brought up that post because I had a null read up until I read 666's more logical posts. Generally there is a towny way to make a case which is what I find in his logic. Ok, fair logic, but unconvincing. 666 brought his case on Teemu and nobody bought it. If you really need Teemu is a better vote than 666, you gotta work that out more. | ||
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I'd say I'm on the fence regarding him. And for the case I've brought, I believe the reasoning I've brought was okay. It was okay to think they could be mafia by the posts I've quoted. I thought it was a good idea to push them so we could gather more information. But formatting it like a case may have been a bad idea. It was still the best push I saw at that moment. Teemu, I was going to filter dive you but you have 6 pages and it's almost 3am here. I have a really important exam tomorrow. I'll do it later. Don't be mad | ||
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On July 31 2014 14:48 Lord Tolkien wrote: Going to sleep but: Yeah, I like meatpudding now. May just be me, but he's NOW starting to sound like his last-game play. Sticking to his guns. ima sleep naow I'm not buying it until he brings more in depth analysis on 666, not only quoting and giving us one liners. | ||
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On July 30 2014 11:10 DCLXVI wrote: I voted for tehpoofter because he claimed he would talk about people and post opinions, then went straight back to spam. Apparently I misunderstood what he said about when he would do such, but that doesn't change the fact that he was useless for a long time. At least after my vote on him he started helping us so I am less suspicious of him now. ##Unvote I have not felt any scummy vibes from teemursu, but apparently some people have so I will go take a look at that. Teemu this was the only post that felt scummy IMO. The others are fair. He isn't speaking much, I think he should be contributing more, but I'm okay with his pushes. He wouldn't be my second choice. Lilwade would probably be, but I have to filter dive him to have a better idea. The only thing I remember from this guy is that the overreacted to poof in an unnatural way. | ||
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On July 31 2014 15:31 meatpudding wrote: This is scummy logic. You know I'm not the only lurker and now I'm posting more. And you have probably the most posts yet you sheep Banks because you can't give a viable name to lynch. So you should have some idea by now? You are pretty quick to throw out town reads though. He got you in there, Teemu. | ||
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God, this sounds so much like the first newbie game... I don't understand why meatpudding refuses to give his own genuine thoughts on 666... | ||
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On July 31 2014 19:51 JennyHell wrote: Honestly, I feel the same way that you do about meatman. He's been digging his own grave for a while and I still don't see the post he said he would come with. It's 3 hours left and neither meatpie or DC have been pleading their cases. Still not sure who I'm feeling mostly ok with out of the two.. Maybe meatthing for at least trying? I could vote for both of them. How does the rest of you lot feel? Meaty or DC? I'm still considering votes. Meatpudding is at least trying to not get lynched. 666 left his vote and went off. He looks somehow confident that meatpudding will die instead if him. Doesn't look townie to me. With 2 wagons and possible 3 mafia, it's easy for mafia to change votes, specially with a consolidated wagons like this. Switching from 666 to meatpudding will be easy and won't raise signals of mafia move. This makes me think that meatpudding is probably town and 666 mafia, or they are both townies. Since there is not enough time to check other people and vote the correct wagon, I'd rather vote 666 ##Unvote ##Vote: DCLXVI | ||
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On July 31 2014 23:48 Teemursu wrote: Nonono, yeah, I just miscounted for some reason. Meatpudding was set to be lynched. It was 4 vs 4 votes with meatpudding being the first to reach majority. Now, I thought that this would make meatpudding looking town. But the signals that they were together were too strong. I've specifically pushed meatpudding to give an in depth read on 666 and he decided not to, which I find extremely indicative. Kill meatpudding and game will be probably figured out even if he flips green. Congrats, poof! MVP there. | ||
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On August 01 2014 00:44 Teemursu wrote: Seeyalater, you said earlier that people kind of pressured us to vote on each other, or something. 666 pressured me for not voting on you and I just wanted to know, who was the one that pressured you to vote on me? Whoever did that to you could be mafia with 666 trying to make us think there's a mafia between one of us, maybe. There is a mafia between you. I'm trying to figure out who. Source: vote count | ||
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On August 01 2014 01:10 Teemursu wrote: Idk if this is true yet, since the votes towards the end weren't consolidated by that much. I'll leave the vote logic to Banks and he's probably the only one I can trust about it. Wait, what? Votes were 4 on meatpudding (set to be lynched) and 4 on 666. You don't think this is consolidated? Basic vote logic: not considering a little WIFOMy scenario, mafia wouldn't probably vote on themselves. Therefore, lets check people who are voting on someone else. That leaves only you and Seeyalater. Meatpudding decided not to vote on himself so an ok logic. | ||
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On August 01 2014 01:41 Teemursu wrote: In the end, it was 5-3. It's not a WIFOM scenario, mafia vote on mafia all the time if they see their member go down. If what you said was true 100% of the time and ONLY town voted on 666, from my PoV the mafia team would be 100% confirmed Seeyalater and meatpudding, and Idk if that is the case yet. Yeah, I do understand what you say, but you gotta admit that the probability of what I've brought is higher. In the end it was 5-3 because I switched from meatpudding to 666. Check my filter and my reasoning. Top town now? BUT MAFIA KILL MEATPUDDING HE IS BLUUUUUE | ||
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On August 01 2014 01:48 Teemursu wrote: No, I get that, and I'm not calling you mafia (check my post about 666's interactions), but your vote kind of makes the least amount of difference, because meat looked like he was going down anyway. And I do n't know the probability of what you're proposing. Mafia is a game about reads, not probability. If you go by probability only, all games would only have like one possible outcome (obviously the extreme scenario, but you get my point?). Yeah I get it. But what in trying to say is that mafia is more likely to vote for a townie than vote for a mafia an keep the vote there. You may base you play solely on reading people's posts, but you should have what I said in mind. | ||
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On August 01 2014 02:50 Teemursu wrote: Well, as she said, no one's confirmed, but based on day 1, you did the most to push on 666, I think, which makes you pretty towny in my eyes? Also, it's even better if you don't think I'm the medic. Are you mafia, Teemu? | ||
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You're hinting you are the medic when we have no idea who can be medic. It didn't sound like you were trying to take a bullet so... Why saying that? If I misread anything let me know... I slept too little and I am not absorbing information very well lol | ||
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On August 01 2014 04:17 Teemursu wrote: I think you're being silly again, like you were with Koshi... Nothing that I say tonight I think will make mafia think I'm a blue too much, mostly because I'm not sure how I can hint at it. At least I can confuse them a little bit and try to make their rolehunting a little more difficult. Too bad I had to explain this openly, though. I'm not accusing you of anything, it was a genuine question. There is a high possibility of this being an all vanilla set up. Pretty sure Haru loved the game hosted by slam. | ||
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On August 01 2014 04:19 JennyHell wrote: Haha, some of the logic of people is just so wacko. Why even call Teemu out for it when others did it multiple times during d1? It just doesn't make sense. Stop trying to help mafia by clearing their questionmarks out for them. Saying someone is blue daytime =\= saying someone is blue night time. I don't think mafia is stupid enough for believing that hint from Teemu. | ||
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On August 01 2014 04:22 Teemursu wrote: If it's a genuine question, what else do you think you're going to get out of it besides a simple "'No"? Genuine question = "why saying that?" | ||
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On August 01 2014 04:27 JennyHell wrote: All I'm saying is why even bring it up GB? You're the one that's blown it way out of proportion.. If it weren't for that weird comment, then it wouldn't have expanded like this.. Just saying. Why not bringing that up, Sympathetic Mouth? What do you think I should be doing? | ||
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On August 01 2014 04:29 Teemursu wrote: No shit, but it's going to confuse them more and go off thinking about all kinds of WIFOM. It''s not bad for town, it's bad for mafia best case scenario. I really don't understand why you're harping on this. Like even the fact that I'm explaining this like I'm a VT is going to make mafia really consider if I would have the balls to do it as a role, etc. I'm just keeping this discussion because I'm answering your questions. I'd rather drop this off because I don't want to draw much attention to us. | ||
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Anyway, I see no problem of pointing that out. It still confuses mafia, they yet don't know if Teemu is blue or not for that. Just because we are talking about that doesn't clarify thing for mafia. I think you guys are overreacting. | ||
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On August 01 2014 04:47 Teemursu wrote: We have the whole next day to figure that out, why do you ask now and from us like this? Jesus, why are you overreacting??? We also have a whole night, why not discuss this? The more we discuss the more we get close to mafia. Doesn't matter if we will have a night kill or not. We aren't helping them finding blue, anyway. | ||
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On August 01 2014 06:39 Tehpoofter wrote: Your logic train isn't even on the tracks. Consult a technician. Kthxbai | ||
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On August 01 2014 08:00 Tehpoofter wrote: OPERATION: SeeyaMeat! Step 1: Lynch Seeya Step 2: Lynch Meat Step 3: Win game. If that doesn't work reevaluate. I'm going to pretend like I'm all the roles. So As medic I'm saving jenny. As Cop I'm checking between Teemu/Seeya/Meat and outting with a red check of any kind. As Vigi I'm shooting GB for trying to make roles claim when they don't need to. I'm going to give a hard bang, marry kill soon. Enjoy! ARE YOU KIDDING ME? Do you all read me as mafia??? Really??? Wtf I give up | ||
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On August 01 2014 08:32 Tehpoofter wrote: Are you drunk? Unless you're secretly Seeya/Meat I think you're in the clear. Suggesting vigi killing me? How's that clear? God that's awful. Donkey? Really? I don't even... Nah, I give up. | ||
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On August 01 2014 08:43 Tehpoofter wrote: I've seen you play really well in the games we've played together I dont actually think you're a donkey I just feel like your heads not in the game or something I know what you can do so step it up and lets find the mafia! Ok. I just feel frustrated when I look scummy when I know I'm not. I guess I shouldn't care for it right now. I'll let you think what you want. I want to know what Teemu and Jenny thinks about lynching meatpudding tomorrow. It's important. You may ask why I think it's important and I'll answer that it is important. Thank you. | ||
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On August 01 2014 10:07 Tehpoofter wrote: I agree GB he makes me think WHAT THE F ARE YOU DOING?!?!? this game quite a bit but I get a townie vibe its weird. :/ Oh now you get a townie vibe from the guy you said you would shoot if you were vigi. Great! | ||
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The key of pushing next day is to add vote count analysis to your reads. If you check solely vote count, we have a situation of two wagons, 666 and meatpudding. Supposing meatpudding is town, I don't believe mafia would stick to 666 wagon. They would probably try to bus meatpudding's lynch and save their partner. If that is so, we've got two possible mafias remaining on meatpudding wagon: Teemu and Cya If meatpudding is mafia, then we probably have a mafia on him also. You see, if I were mafia and if I had two partners as the main bus with no probability of shifting focus, I'd vote for the most probable to die. It would confirm me as town, somehow. Have in mind I switched around 3 hours before the lynch, not giving enough time for mafia to react. So probably mafia chose to lynch meatpudding and, if this is right, Teemu or cya still could be mafia. But that's only if you believe that mafia had short time to react. You may consider that the remaining mafia was on 666, clearing Teemu and cya, narrowing the people you should push. BASED solely on that, we have two good starts at day2: (1)start pushing meatpudding and, if nothing happens,lynch him to at least get his alignment. It would help a lot to solve the game. Or (2), pushing meatpudding remaining voters to see what they can give to us to confirm this theory or not. My preferred method would be (1). | ||
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On August 01 2014 12:39 Seeyalater wrote: My take on this is, as a townie, it was honestly a pretty easy vote on either of these two compared to everyone else. Basically a major thing that led me to the decision to vote on him, was my disappointment in him. He was gone a good part of day 1, then he comes in and makes a couple posts that I personally got a townie vibe off of, and he said he would shortly be posting more on his insights, and then just dropped off. That was a huge blow to my townie cred for him, because I was waiting to hear from him to formulate my thoughts around his thoughts and see where I stood next to him, but that opportunity never came. It was not until it was a few hours close to lynch time that he came back, and then went hard on someone who had 1. almost no chance of being lynched so it was a weird target 2. Almost completely ignored our arguments for Roman it seemed(yes he did mention him a couple times, but it was more of a, whatever y'all can lynch him if you want, I'm not changing my vote), and 3. although clock had way less posts than he did by night's end, clock still seemed to be more around that meat pudding was, who was basically only in the game for a couple small instances. This is well known by everybody. I, myself, was voting for him. But you got to admit that the most logical mafia thought is to vote for a possible mislynch than for a partner, right? This is a start point for day two. We should still base our arguments on reads. | ||
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On August 01 2014 13:54 Lord Tolkien wrote: This is...deeply flawed analysis. Point out flawed parts, please. | ||
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On August 01 2014 13:58 Lord Tolkien wrote: Again, assumes 3 mafia. To that I say, Assuming we have three mafia, is it still flawed? I assumed we have three mafia because of the slider up from last newbie game | ||
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Never mind though, that game was 15 people playing. Lets kill meatpudding and be happy | ||
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On August 01 2014 14:21 Lord Tolkien wrote: Assumes 3 mafia. Touching upon this before night ends, but I...cordially disagree. Ok, assuming 2 mafia then, one is down, meatpudding refused to go after 666. I can't see a better day2 lynch | ||
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On August 01 2014 14:25 Teemursu wrote: At this point I kind of wish we could speed up the game and go on a rampage killing meat and maybe Seeyalater. Meatpudding should concede. He is mafia and he is going to die. | ||
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On August 01 2014 14:39 JennyHell wrote: GB, you're the biggest fucking flip flopper I've ever witnessed. First you create a rhyme that says how much meat is going to die, then you change your vote from meat to DC and when it turns out DC was mafia you claim you're confirmed, and start saying that meat is a blue, and now you're back to wanting him dead? I dno what the hell you're doing, and it's rubbing me the wrong way. Nothing wrong with flipping reads. To be honest, I won my games doing that correctly at least once on each... I was clearly joking about him being blue... Look, I've explained the reason I switched vote to 666 and to be fair I could hammer a mafia. 666 voted for meatpudding so if I kept my vote on meatpudding we would have a hard time trying to figure out who to push here. Meatpudding has got a ton of posts that indicates he is scum with 666, and now I'm talking about flipped associations. | ||
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On August 01 2014 15:14 Teemursu wrote: Didn't he? Wasn't it 4-4 with meat going to get lynched, and then GB changed his vote to 666? Yep. MVP here kthxbai | ||
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On August 01 2014 15:15 Lord Tolkien wrote: No, it was 4-3 on meat, then I swapped to DC, then DC voted meat. Glowing made a last minute change in voting that didn't affect the outcome. You're wrong. Check vote counts | ||
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On August 01 2014 17:33 Teemursu wrote: GB, I have a couple of questions for you. You said that meatie had at least defended himself and 666 kinda left off after leaving his vote on meat, which was the reason you switched your vote from meat to 666. 1) How do you think meat defended himself? Well or badly? Which posts of his defense convinced you to change your vote? 2) Why didn't you vote on 666 earlier? The reasons you gave happened way before the very close of EOD (meaty started lurking again and THEN you give the reason of him "at least defending himself"), and yet you were flipfloppy about meaty/666 before Tolkien hammered 666, which you then followed up with your "hammer" vote. What I'm suspicious of is that you actually voted on your mafia partner when it was still too late to get meaty miss lynched and that's why you kinda gave a weakish town read/flip-flop on meatypie. 1) badly, but at least he was defending himself. But badly. 2) I made my vote while going to my university to have an exam. You can check I've typed "I've only got 30 minutes" somewhere. I thought I was hammering 666 and moreover I made unflipped associations (I DON'T CARE) that they both could be mafia. As I couldn't believe a scum partner would vote for a partner, instead on a townie, it made me believe that there was a better chance of 666 being mafia than meatpudding. That's why I changed votes. Now I believe that 666 thought that changing to meatpudding would make he look town, as everybody thought meatpudding was set to be lynched. It backfired and now we have the only guy who refuses to vote for mafia. Instead, he kept trying to make you look scum and shift the vote. Why not killing him? | ||
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On August 01 2014 22:22 meatpudding wrote: Here's my M/B/K and where I'm starting from d2. To be declared a union under holy matrimony Banks - The most espoused in town. His vote critical to the lynch. The only way he's mafia is if he's trying to solo the game. (Sure I wouldn't rule it out) Make you breakfast Teemu - 666's case on you makes no sense if you're mafia. Post some reads yourself instead of only arguing what others have posted. Tolkien - Just another face in the crowd. I would lean town, but I feel it's too early. You've been bumped up for landing the hammer vote. Just one dance Jenny - I still feel pretty safe around you but not as much on before. I think your analysis is usually good but it was lacking at the end of d1. If you thought DC was scum you didn't try to argue it. GB - I think you should be focusing on who's in your town circle before I put you in mine. You're playing a bit inconsistent and when you are serious it seems too serious and mafia contrived. lilwade - I was a bit cautious on reading you d1. Also you were able to go under the radar for the most part. I think we should get to know each other a little better. Leave you in a ditch cya - If there was logic behind the clockwork push, I didn't see it. You were there before I dropped off, so anyone had the chance to argue but you didn't. You pushed no case for Numbers Guy and then try and switch focus after the flip. Scum I say. Check his reasoning on me. Does it look ok to you? It looks like someone who is having his chance to call someone scum because people are confused about him. I tried to look silly specially when poof started posting he had a plan. I thought his plan was to confuse mafia about my alignment and I played with it. That's because I thought I was the hammer. I remember checking roles and there was no vigi. That's why a freely picked on it | ||
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On August 01 2014 23:53 Artanis[Xp] wrote: Endgame ![[image loading]](http://ak.picdn.net/shutterstock/videos/1274374/preview/stock-footage-young-man-sleeping-peacefully.jpg) HaruRH has slept through the Day. All non-host entities win! LMFAO!!!!!!!!!!!! I thought it was really end game. Kill meatpudding, gg ##Vote: meatpudding | ||
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On August 02 2014 00:49 lilwade wrote: I really don't like this post, even if he is on everyones kill list... Tell me what you don't like. I highly doubt meatpudding isn't scum. Everything points to him. | ||
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On August 02 2014 02:19 Tehpoofter wrote: I will lynch you over meatpie if you don't try today. This is not goign to be some slow day where we dont talk and mafia just coats. NO ONE IS OFF THE HOOK TODAY ITs not just lynch meatpudding day its figure out the other mafia is day. ##unvote ##Vote GlowingBear Give me a better lynch. If you think I'm a better lynch, you are insane | ||
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Tell me why you are scum reading me. I can't understand. | ||
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Most active ATM: GlowingBear Slow day it is. | ||
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On August 01 2014 22:31 GlowingBear wrote: Check his reasoning on me. Does it look ok to you? It looks like someone who is having his chance to call someone scum because people are confused about him. I tried to look silly specially when poof started posting he had a plan. I thought his plan was to confuse mafia about my alignment and I played with it. That's because I thought I was the hammer. I remember checking roles and there was no vigi. That's why a freely picked on it | ||
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Poof, Seeyalater has got a lot of fluff on his posts which is a mafia trait. So, it makes me consider him as possible mafia. There's nothing remarkable coming from him. Lilwade has been lurking a lot and when he comes to the topic he contributes for nothing. It makes him possible mafia for it. Meatpudding has a long list of wrong traits. Lurking almost 36 hours on day one and bringing a terrible list, goes back to lurking? check On that list, gives free town pass to 666 with no reasoning whatsoever? check Refuses to vote the other wagon to save himself considering Teemu more scum than we considered 666? check Votes WITH flipped scum in a possible townie, possibly leading to a mislynch? check When asked to talk about Teemu, brings full case. When asked to talk about 666, quotes other people's opinion. When specifically asked to bring opinion regarding 666, refuses to do so (look at how many attempts I tried. Mafia is uncomfortable of talking about other mafia, that's why I always try to make people to talk about each other, specially when I believe both are mafia). check I thought I was the one who hammered 666. Vote count was confusing, as you know. I thought I would die because I would be confirmed town for that. You said you had a plan and talked about vigi, an impossible role in this game. I believed you were trying to draw suspicions on me so I wouldn't be killed at night. That was me faking being silly. Other than that, my posts were genuine thoughts. If you think they are silly, there's nothing I can do | ||
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On August 02 2014 11:22 Tehpoofter wrote: Also I'm just 1 vote I hold no more weight than anyone else here. You acting like this right now just makes me think you are again overreacting to some pressure... a mafia trait. I'm not overreacting, I've just ran out of argument. I've been saying what I'm saying over and over again. It's the third game people call me silly but it's the third game I've got right reads. I just have nothing more to do. I'm just hoping that when I flip you see that you were wrong and reevaluate your reads on me, in case I die today. That's all. | ||
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Your first quote is a joke I made. I had no interactions with him because nobody actually interacted that much. That guy wasn't posting enough. I was pushing Jenny, Cya and Meatpudding. If you see, I don't have much interactions with lilwade or poof either. There's nothing much to say here... I felt that meatpudding was a better guess until this second mafia decided to vote for him and made me change my votes | ||
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On August 03 2014 00:28 Seeyalater wrote: If that's so, then mind explaining to us where you are currently in the game? Lets say MP gets lynched and he's not mafia, what is your plan after that happens? I'd definitely push lilwade because he is not contributing much. Tbh Teemu I'm so sure meatpudding is mafia that in hardly considering other options. I know it's bad but I can't explain. If he flips town, everyone will start being mafia to me | ||
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On August 03 2014 01:27 Seeyalater wrote: I think the cases are fine, specially since no one is confirmed town 100%, its nice to see all sides. It'd be nice if someone came up with a complete case for him though. :p No, it's not. By this time you may have people you believe are more townie than others. You should focus mafia. You can make cases on everyone, mostly. It's just a matter of believing someone is mafia and convincing others your argument. Bringing cases on everyone is more disruptive than constructive. Instead of pushing someone, you'll make townies be suspicious of everyone and it's easier for mafia to survive that way. Everyone will push everyone and will get is little information from our top reads, making it harder. | ||
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I hope you re-read the game in case I die and understand what you did wrong if I die. | ||
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On August 03 2014 08:02 Tehpoofter wrote: Those not on the wagon are likely partners. Myself/Jenny/Lilwayne likely town for being on the wagon early and not getting off it when we all could have. Teemu/seeya staying on you is bad because as amfai they would be hoping that you get lynched (assuming MeatPasta is town here) over their partner. GlowingBoard Moving off MeatPine at the end when the vote was pretty much decided, the 4 on the wagon were locked in on him and he got to 4 first. So this extra vote might have been a chance to steal some town cred knowing what RNG would flip. ^^Those are all reasonable conclusions from the vote counts. Vote count was confusing. I thought I hammered. You thought I hammered. Why is it okay to be confused about it but not me? I realise he is second, but the fact that I'm first means you're not reading me well. Killing me will delay the game. I've already exposed my motivations so is up to you if you believed in it or not. Hint: I'm speaking the truth. | ||
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On August 03 2014 08:19 Tehpoofter wrote: The facts are what matter so if you did it. I might not have noticed but that doesn't mean it didnt happen. You might be telling the truth you might not i don't know. I'm going to toss out my full Bang Marry Kill here in a moment. Your list doesn't matter. You're still killing a townie and making it easier to mafia to win the game. Just re read my filter day one and meatpudding's filter day2 and see who you find more scum. See who was pushing people to them it and who was doing almost nothing to win the game. The posts are there and you're betting on the wrong guy. | ||
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On August 03 2014 08:32 Tehpoofter wrote: ::awkward:: How many times I'll have to fucking say it I was faking? How many times I'll have to fucking show you all reasons to kill meatpudding? Whoever you guys kill, me or meatpudding, and kill after, if not LYLO, kill poof. Jesus. | ||
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I cannot get more in depth because I am at a college degree party and I'm still here trying to make you believe I'm not the mafia and that meatpudding is mafia. | ||
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On August 03 2014 16:07 Teemursu wrote: are you town or mafia? be honest with me, GB :-) YOU FICKONG STUPID I AM VT HOW CAN YOU BOT NOTICE THET | ||
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On August 03 2014 16:49 HaruRH wrote: Don't post when you're drunk, or I'll start handing out warnings thanks! Sorry. | ||
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I am town. I repeat; I am town! | ||
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On August 04 2014 06:26 Tehpoofter wrote: Rip MeatPu$$y. This game is silly. I have an idea of who I think it is.... before I go into can people give where they stand? Especially GB Teemu Seeya? Like those 3 should really talk about who they think the next kill is and why. I am completely lost. I could've bet my life on meatpudding being mafia. I'm glad I didn't. Poof, I do know it I should take the day1 vote counts in consideration. I would bet mafia could be you, but that wouldn't make sense considering day1 votes. Agh. | ||
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On August 04 2014 07:52 Tehpoofter wrote: Just breathe. I'm going to tell you whose mafia later. Tell me what you think of people that could be mafia plz . I'll have to filter dive everybody to update my reads. I'm keeping the ones I've brought previously about lil and cya. I have this scum tell on you because of your cases day2. I have no idea what to tell of Teemu and Tolkien. But Teemu voted for meatpudding day1, which puts him on my list of suspects. I think that whoever is mafia, he is probably playing very townie like for us to be so confused... | ||
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Thank god for killing Teemu, poof! You've made it easier | ||
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It is really possible that mafia narrowed our paths on purpose so we mislynch Seeyalater. Why would be, as mafia, narrow our votes by killing Teemu and letting the last voter alive? The voter that poofter brought a huge case AT NIGHT? | ||
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Tolkien, I read your posts and we should dive lilwade, and he needs to speak more. So, lilwade, I'll keep a vote on you until you tell me these: who is your top scum read and why, and hat do you think of the case poof brought? ##Vote: lilwade Ok, from the way I see, night kill has got these scenarios: 1) killed at random while mafia was choosing for the most townie. 2) killed on purpose so we have no doubt in who to push considering vote counts day1 (Teemu and Seeyalater left their votes meatpudding fay1; mafia was probably there; Teemu is vt; therefore, Seeyalater is mafia). Poof is the key suspicious for his bit case on Seeyalater night1 but it could be anybody. 3) WIFOM - considering number 2, and considering people probably getting fast into that conclusion, Seeyalater is mafia and killed Teemu trying to shift attention from him What do you think? | ||
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Ok, I want your opinions on the scenarios I've brought. I want you people to tell me more before I filter dive the remaining players. I'm going to wreck mafia today. Please, Seeyalater, poof, Tolkien, lilwade, give me opinions on those scenarios. | ||
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On August 05 2014 06:48 Lord Tolkien wrote: It's rather frustrating for me since I want to read him more solidly, but his paucity of posts D2 onwards makes it nearly impossible for me to say anything. Was trying to see if I could coax more posts out of him D2 for a more solid D3 read, but nope. 1) Mafia rarely kills at random. There's usually some logic behind it. However, you should NOT let night kills influence your decisions regarding who is scum, because of aforementioned wifom. It could be for any reason from Teemu starting to look town in everyone's eyes, they thought he was blue, "let's confuse town", to let's make town think XXX is town/scum. Again, evaluate a case on it's merits, not on unknown speculation for now. I continue to disagree about where the vote for mafia was D1 (hence why I was looking at lilwade as probably scum D2), but I'm kinda reluctantly going to have to agree that cya is the "best" case right now, though I really do not want us to have just one bandwagon. Sure. But you think that considering those scenarios is WIFOMing? I'm not asking if I should let it influence my reads, I'm asking if you don't believe that mafia could've used that logic. | ||
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On August 05 2014 08:51 Lord Tolkien wrote: Fair enough. 1) plausible 2) plausible 3) plausible The issue is it doesn't help us actually make any major reads so... It helps when we get mafia talking about it without avoiding analysing in-depth. We could get information from everybody's answer. | ||
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On August 05 2014 11:16 Seeyalater wrote: 1) After what Jenny said(and was right on MP), I'm not sure it was a random kill. 2) From what I understand you're trying to say, killing teemu would be a terrible idea by me, as people have been saying there's a mafia between one of us a couple times since MP was mislynched. 3) I think this is the most obvious choice here. Still not 100% sure what the WIFOM thing means, but it does seem like Jenny and teemu shared some similar thoughts(on me, tolkien, poof at least). Second is the most obvious choice and you were right on what I said. Third scenario is you being mafia, though. So, if you prefer the third scenario, I have bad news for you. To be honest, I feel you more as a newbie townie than mafia. You have been really active and putting a lot of effort. It's possible to scum read you but I'm doubting, right now, that you are mafia. I want wade to talk. I feel poof can be our mafia, I was wondering why killing Teemu and not poof. It really doesn't make sense. I also don't like the way Tolkien answered my scenarios but that's another case. Mostly, we need wade to be more active. He looks just like he is waiting for us to kill ourselves, and that is looking bad for him. I suggest you join my wagon. | ||
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On August 05 2014 11:49 lilwade wrote: What is the likely-hood that there is 3 town left and 2 mafia, this puts us in a LYLO situation. What are we thinkin boys. Low, and it actually doesn't matter, we have to find scum. I need you to give thoughts on people. What do you think of lunching poof? What are your top scum reads? | ||
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On August 05 2014 19:27 Lord Tolkien wrote: OK NOW, THIS is interesting and probably puts us on the path to winning. Unless cya is godfather and we're all screwed because of this; I wouldn't put it past Haru. Right, so this actually explains why I felt so very uncomfortable with lilwade's posts and reading him in general. GIVEN THE TIMING, he's pretty much confirmed town. The only reason mafia would make such a cop claim is that it's either LYLO, or they're about to get lynched. I highly doubt we're at LYLO since that requires 3-6 town split, which means 2 mislynches=gg for town, and that's abit too little room for error in a newbie game I would think. And he'd have to be worried about a counterclaim. I'm going to reach here and say there's 4 town 1 mafia left. What does this mean? lilwade is almost certainly not scum if that's the game setup. If he was TOWN fake-claiming cop then we may have just lost the game, but he's not an idiot from the way his posts have read, which indicates he's town. If he were mafia, the fact he doesn't die tonight after a mislynch would basically mean he's mafia and thus seal the game for town. WAYYYY too big a risk for mafia to take would think. And Mafia would basically never let him live into LYLO, because at this stage, he would basically have a 66% chance of checking a LYLO member and thus basically win it for town, vs 33% chance he checks someone who dies, and thus gets a shitton of suspicion on him. 2:1 odds...that's pretty long. So yeah, he's most likely what he says he is, and in any event, we'll know after night if we lynch incorrectly if he was just really desperate mafia (doesn't seem like it). Unless there was a godfather in the game, that's the "wrench", but a town read on cya is invaluable to solving the game.. So the question for me is: Poofter or GB. Hmm...after I wake up from a quick nap. If we have any other blues (unlikely), claim now I think. I'll say it now, I'm VT. I'd say it's very likely that poofter is mafia and it's very likely that mafia have a godfather. A setup with two goons and a cop would be slightly unbalanced. I'll take this claim as true, though. It matches your caution while posting. I'd say that we should kill Seeyalater and if he isn't mafia, then kill poof, or vice-versa. That is, considering Tolkien is town (I think so, he seems to be contributing in his few posts and he is playing alike our first newbie game) I was re reading day one and I must say that cya looks suspicious, although I'm still not sure if still donkey town or mafia. The signals are too much, actually. | ||
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On August 05 2014 17:13 lilwade wrote: Operation Town Victory Ok guys, let us get this game on the right track for town win. We have 5 players left and potentially 1-2 mafias members alive. Plan I am town cop. N1: I investigated teemu, sadly he just passed away last night. N2: I investigated Seeyalater and guess what Green check good to go (hopefully you will team up with me here) Basically me and seeya have to decide on which one of you remaining 3 players tolkien, poof, GB is actually town so we can lynch the remaining mafia. If there is only 1 mafia member left we have a huge change at the outright victory. Here are my current townie rankings 1) Lord Tolkien, I think you are very much town, and your recent filter is outstanding. 2) Poofter, I think there is a good possibility you bused DC day 1 to pocket the remaining town, but chances are that would be more unlikely. Your recent posts are good as well and I would like to see what you have to say to me now. 3) GB I was never able to get a good read on you throughout the day 1 and night 1 phases, As of late I am still undecided that is why you are #3 Ride or die, Any questions ladies? No, wait. You checked TEEMU instead of MEATPUDDING? Why???? | ||
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On July 31 2014 17:39 lilwade wrote: I got excited to see a bunch of posts when I got back, I am sincerely disappointed that the game had to go this direction, Meatpudding. What are your goals right now, you look like the kid in kindergarten pointing the finger and the other kid spitting gibberish because he took your toy. We are almost at the point where it would be better for you to role claim than anything else, not saying you have a role. Please put up a solid defense backed by what you think is solid leads and maybe we can get somewhere. For a bit you were leaning town but did not follow up on just about anything you have said. I am not sure if you just can not handle the pressure but if you are town hang in there and throw a few more punches. Re-reading day1 and I hate this post like I hate eating a salad of rocks with fried salamanders. This looks so scum driven... | ||
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On August 06 2014 03:45 Tehpoofter wrote: Hmm I slept on it. jkljfjkalkjfsdfk I honestly wish that lilwade didn't out because I REALLY REALLY think its Seeya... I might be wrong. But damn does Glowingbear seem to care about the game. There's also never a world where we kill lilwade today so your vote is wasted GB. Lynches for me are between GB and seeya. Tolkien is townie lilwade is unccd cop. Maybe I missed the chance to hammer on GB yesterday :/ ##unvote ##Vote GlowingBear This only changes to go on seeya. Thinking about it at night though for town a cop game with 1 mafia check possible is really hard to win unless there is like a doctor or jailkeeper. Probably just GB probably wasted a day. That claim isn't reliable, poof. Easy to claim now. He was blue fishing since the beginning of the game. Pointing out the soft claim, asking Seeyalater to claim when he was been pushed day on. I would ignore his claim and form my opinion looking at his filter and I didn't do it right now but I read day one and I the only possibility of him being a blue is the lurking blue who is cautious. But really, easy to claim now. | ||
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See how it's easy to claim now? After so many blue fishing that happened in the game? Lilwade's claim is worth nothing. You're doing the same mistake of leading a mislynch on me again, poof. That is, if you are not mafia. I'm not blue, this time. But I'm still townie. | ||
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On July 31 2014 17:39 lilwade wrote: I got excited to see a bunch of posts when I got back, I am sincerely disappointed that the game had to go this direction, Meatpudding. What are your goals right now, you look like the kid in kindergarten pointing the finger and the other kid spitting gibberish because he took your toy. We are almost at the point where it would be better for you to role claim than anything else, not saying you have a role. Please put up a solid defense backed by what you think is solid leads and maybe we can get somewhere. For a bit you were leaning town but did not follow up on just about anything you have said. I am not sure if you just can not handle the pressure but if you are town hang in there and throw a few more punches. He asked meatpudding, not Seeyalater, sorry. He also pointed out your "role" thing. I didn't re read other day or night posts, but I remember there was a lot of blue talking, including me. There was a lot to work with. | ||
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On August 06 2014 04:07 Tehpoofter wrote: Point being his claim lines up with the claim. You'll have a better chance of convincing me that Seeya is godfather. You may not be convinced he is mafia but I'm trying to convince you to not take his claim into consideration because (1) it's easy to claim now, regardless alignment and (2) IF he is cop, there is a high possibility of a godfather. I'm still not convinced Seeyalater is completely mafia and I find odd Tolkien's low activity in such a crucial point. | ||
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On August 06 2014 04:24 Tehpoofter wrote: If I think hes not cop then You or seeyalater is mafia probably mroe seeyalater than you. If he is cop I think you're mafia or Seeyalater is godfather.... honestly thats where I'm at. Make you feel better? Nope, because believing it or not could be crucial after night3. I've got your top lunches. I need the rest to tell me who they want to lynch. Today, in order of preference, lilwade/Seeyalater/poof. Those are my top lunches. | ||
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On August 06 2014 05:01 Seeyalater wrote: Boy you are not helping your case at all. So far you seem to be the only who doesn't believe Wade is the real cop, and is trying to push on him. Are you really that afraid that you'll be an easy lynch compared to Poof? Otherwise why go against the town flow on this? With 4 people believing wade, and at least 3 being town if we believe there's 1 mafia left(I do), it means most of the town wants to go in that direction. Yes, I'm afraid I'll be an easy lynch because if we lynch you and you turn vt, there will be a night kill, which will probably be our top town. As you all were wrongly scumreading me, I'll be easily targeted day4 (we will reach LYLO with 3 people). I'm at least trying to say "don't blindly believe this guy" because if people do so and he is mafia, he will win the game with that simple cop claim. | ||
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If you all believe lilwade, I'll have to switch my vote and bring my case on Seeyalater. I'm voting him now and bringing a case on him. But please, ask me questions and try to specify why do you all think I'm mafia. I'll try to clarify I ain't. This is a mislynch and I'll do my best to bring victory to town. But I don't know where I'm failing here and I really need you to point out so I can help us. | ||
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On August 06 2014 06:30 Lord Tolkien wrote: And you havent shot anyone yet? lelelelel Wait, are you being serious here? Because if you are, this changes EVERYTHING, everything, and means it's highly likely that the last scum is godfather, and for cya to be godfather. Which invalidates EVERYTHING. O_o If you believed his claim, you are voting on me not even knowing why. I doubt you filter dived me before voting on me. I'm starting to believe you're likely to be mafia. | ||
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On August 06 2014 06:44 Seeyalater wrote: I'm confused, are you talking about wade's claim or Pooter's? Poofter. I've already revealed why he couldn't be vigi when I explained that I tried to look silly night1 because I thought I hammered 666 and that I would probably die. And when I was analysing I pratically hammered 666 if there was mafia on him. Because you changed to him, resulting in a tie. This tie could've been broken if someone (mafia) moved his vote back to meatpudding. My vote switched secured that we killed mafia. Think about what I've been doing and see if it's really mafia- like. Why would I blindly and aggressively push meatpudding if I was mafia? Why drawing that much attention after securing a kill on 666? It doesn't make sense. It makes sense if I'm vt. You are a good player and I don't get how you can't see it. | ||
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I mostly wanted to pressure lilwade but it seems NO townie wants that. A guy that didn't contribute and lurked mostly. He could be town, but some pressure would do us good. But it seems our townies are lazy. Well, I'm going to bring two cases, one on poof and another on seeya. You are going to mislynch me and you have no good reasons for doing so. That is sad. Your doubt on whether believing or not poofs claim made sure you didn't analyse me well. | ||
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On August 06 2014 07:11 Lord Tolkien wrote: Everyone and their mother was pushing onto meatpudding. So...yeah no. Votecount 4 on meatpudding 3 on me so, yeah, "everybody". Check my reasons against meatpudding. I was the one who started his push aggressively. Are you mafia? Your "not caring" attitude is sounding like mafia. | ||
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On August 06 2014 07:16 Lord Tolkien wrote: Basically we should know tonight if lilwade IS ACTUALLY COP, so I see no reason to push onto him TODAY. If by some miracle he lives till LYLO, he becomes top scum candidate unless he gets a good check in (which is a 33-67% chance of happening), but until then, no. It remains possible that cya is godfather, I'm not ruling that out. But honestly, I'm willing to risk it ATM since my gut has been telling me he's donkey town this entire game, and I have a cop check on him. IN MY CURRENT TIER LIST OF PEOPLE TO LYNCH: GB Banks Cya lilwade (jumps to near first if he doesn't die tonight) Mafia lets him live, draw attention to him day4, easy mislynch on LYLO. Try harder. | ||
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On August 06 2014 07:20 Lord Tolkien wrote: Now during D2, there were REASONS why some people (including me) felt you were more likely scum. Namely your refusal to entertain other possible bandwagons to tunnel onto meatpudding. You think that is a mafia trait? Don't you think mafia would be more careful? "Hmm, I'm not sure if I should vote meatpudding or another person..." Come on, I was aggressive towards him since day one and everything pointed to him. Ultimately the vote count. | ||
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On August 06 2014 07:26 Lord Tolkien wrote: 1) why the fuck would they let him live when he has a 66% chance of checking someone in LYLO, and making the game that much harder for mafia. 2) who else would they shoot exactly; the only one who's "confirmed" town is cya if the check is correct, and there are 3 unconfirmed towns. IF WE LYNCH CYA and he's not mafia (which I currently believe), what then? Argh. I suppose they'll shoot me or Banks if one of us isn't lynched tonight, but eh. It's a significantly weaker play I would think. 3) I wouldn't lynch lilwade immediately. It just puts him as prime lynch candidate. opinions *le gasp* change, Where are you taking that number from? Night3 = 4 people 1 is lilwade, other one is cya 50% chance of him checking a mafia, IF there is no godfather, when there probably is one, it would be slightly unbalanced for mafia if there is no godfather. This takes the probability of checking mafia to the ground. Much better to let lilwade survive and make him the last lynch. | ||
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I'm okay with lynching either cya or poof today but I believe the case I have on poof is WIFOMer than cya's. Anyway, maybe you are right that we should, for now, believe in this and don't get too WIFOM. This game is hard, though. I'm finishing some works and when I finish it, I'll bring my case on poof, then. | ||
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On August 06 2014 08:34 Tehpoofter wrote: there isn't a vigi in the main post... like we went through this two nights ago. I've said it many times in my filter regarding poof's plan and you completely ignored it. That's why I had a very weak scum read on you: you easily jumped on my wagon without carefully reading me. But it is just a very weak read. | ||
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On August 06 2014 08:38 Tehpoofter wrote: There is no way that I'm mafia. Just look at my filter. I was the one who went on RNG guy I started the wagon I pushed on it. I even reconsidered at one point where I COULD HAVE SWITCHED TO MEAT PUIDDDING and didn't late in day 1. Like I'll link my posts but there is absolutely zero change I'm mafia in this game. EVER. Remove your vote immediately. Its way more likely seeya is a godfather than I'm mafia. I'm about to go on lunch. So like If this vote isn't moved by then I'll link to the posts that are better than lilwade's check. Poof I've read your day one and you let your possibility of jumping on meatpudding open. I'll find it and quote it. | ||
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On July 31 2014 20:01 Tehpoofter wrote: Meatcake I agree came out overly defensive. Meatbrownies what do you think the most townie thing in your defense was? Like if you were reading Meatpie from an outsiders prospective what would your read on Meatcookie be? Teemu if Meatstruddel is town who is most likely to be mafia? Same question to Jenny if Meatdessert is mafia/town who is more likely to be mafia with him/mafia because of it? Lilwayne what incentive does RomanNumeralGuy have to just afk and vote Meatpastry? If Meatchocolate is mafia its a good play but if Meatyogurt is town its just a way to get an easy misslynch on MeatCheeseCake. RomannumeralGuy if Meaticecream is lynched over you what will you do to project town more the rest of the game? I'm seriously considering changing my vote over to Meatpudding before I go to bed. This was said just before I changed my vote to 666. Do you understand now what I say when we have two consolidated wagons, mafia can easily switch votes, Tolkien? If I kept my vote on meatpudding, he would die. If poof changed his vote before, he would also die. | ||
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On August 06 2014 08:52 Tehpoofter wrote: I said I could switch and that I was considering it but CHOSE not to. I started that lynch and killed a mafia I rallied people onto it. JEnny hoped on because of me. I tried to make meat see why he was townie. I reevaluated and posted and cared about who posted and was rallying the troops. I think this game for me is lynch GB cause of the claim then lynch SEeya who is probably the god father. If I'm alive I'd reevaluate the whole game but I won't be surprised if we lynch you and win. I'm never going to let myself get lyncehd its impossible after all the work I've done this game and who I've pushed on and why. Yeah, your effort really says a lot and yeah, you started that push on 666. That's why I'm considering lynching you but I prefer to lynch seeya. After all you've done I believe seeya is a better lynch but I have enough reasons to vote you if I consider that you decided to bus and pocket every townie. It makes sense when I read your further posts. Poof, read everything I said day3. Really, read it and say if you still believe I'm mafia. I have NO mafia traits, man! Look, we all agree at some point that, without lilwade's check, cya has mafia traits. Lets consolidate our votes on him. He is the only person we agree to lynch second, at least. Townies should agree on a target at this point. | ||
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On August 06 2014 09:01 Seeyalater wrote: Holy molly its been a super busy day at work today so I haven't had much time to contribute, but in a couple hours I'll start yapping my mouth again. In the meantime though, I'll just keep on smiling. Translating: "Hey guys I love you, keep fighting between you lol I don't care if poof or GB dies because they are both town" | ||
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On August 06 2014 09:09 Seeyalater wrote: Except I don't know, but I'm pretty happy to be VT right now! Look, poof. LOOK! Compare my arguments with everything this guy brought. COME ON. | ||
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On August 06 2014 09:28 Seeyalater wrote: I'm in the same exact same boat with Tolkien LOL. Honestly, if he was to be the last mafia, he'd win my undying love, because I just can't see that being the case right now. I've also talked quite in depth about how good a player Poof is and how easy it would be for him to bus early on, pocket town, and still win 1v7. As I've said with GB, his posts just reek of desperation. He just outright refuses to believe that I could be town, when there is a good check on me. Even if there was a godfather in the game, its still one of the best pieces of information he has, and he just outright refuses to even ponder said chance. I don't refuse the possibility of you being town, I am saying that I believe the probability of you being mafia, IMHO, is higher than poof being mafia. I also believe we are being pocketed by lilwade with his claim. No, really, look at how he buddies with seeyalater now. Look how people are completely disregarding the possibility of him being mafia, even when his posts sucked ass troughout the game. If he is mafia and manages to mislynch a townie today and lynch a townie by night, keeping seeyalater alive, it will be 2x1 and it's all over because he pocketed cya. | ||
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On August 03 2014 10:50 lilwade wrote: Current MBK Marry- surprisingly Teemu made my marry list this time around. I think he has been more solid, although he needs to wake up again from yesterday Bang, Poof, still very town to me I like the way he has been playing to this current post. Bang, Tolkien, posts from being back were definitely solid and I like where he is going. Glowing bear- I dont know whether you belong on bang or kill. Maybe if you can give me a thought process of where you are at this time I can get a better read on you. Seeya - You were also leaning kill list for me but I doubt the wagon would switch to you on short notice, I will most definitely read you up and down through the next phase Meat - Right now I feel like you are getting out of your old self and looking better, sadly I still have you on the bottom of this list. You are more likely than not tied with GB and Seeya so if you want me to get off teh nuts then give me a raisin why. This is his last "reads" post before the claim. He still brings nothing!!! Full of "I'm not sure, i have to filter dive you" Page four on his filter! Man I can get this out of my head this idea that he is pocketing us! His filter is full of null reads! I can quote posts if you want but his filter is only 5 pages long, it won't take really long if you look! | ||
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On August 06 2014 10:16 Tehpoofter wrote: The only way hes mafia is if hes mafia with Seeya. Literally the only way. Because there is no reason for him to claim and come under suspicion the next day for no reason when he could have just pushed with me on seeya (assuming in this case that lilwade is the last one or something) Like what does he possibly gain? Other than suspicion. Because if he claims now and buddy up with Seeya (as you can see, he even said it was up to them to decide who to lynch, and you can see that Seeya is pretty happy with lilwade), he will be able to mislynch any townie (he is mafia and a lynch on him is not being considerated). It will reduce to 4 townies, right? Then he kills someone during night, keeping seeyalater alive. 3 alive. Lilwade+Seeyalater VS last town. It is a good risk to take, considering I started day3 pushing him. | ||
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Poof (1): Tolkien Seeyalater (1): Glowingbear Glowingbear (2): Poof, Seeyalater Not Voting: lilwade The mother fucker isn't even voting. Geez. I'll be so mad if he is mafia. | ||
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If you're town you KNOW I've been contributing way more than cya. You understand that I've been really busy last couple of days. I still am but I am sacrificing some precious time to win this game. I'm telling you again: read my filter, specially day3, and tell me if I'm not townier than seeyalater. Remember that lilwade could be fake claiming or that seeyalater could be godfather. Believe more on your reads. | ||
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On August 01 2014 11:25 lilwade wrote: Marry Still a bachelor atm Bang Poofter I really dig that you followed me up earlier on DC and held your ground big points to you for that. We might have to move to a different state that allows said proposals, but I never marry prematurely. P.S. No matter how many times I look at your name I want to call you poofster. Jenny - I know you do not see what a knight in shining armor I am but furthur investigations might change your mind To me you are the most town so far w/ poofter close behind Sadly these are the only two I really trust atm. Kill Meatpudding - Honestly take no heed to this next statement but, I have a hunch that he may be godfather but I don't know why he would give up this early. He does seem super scummy but more to come on Meatpudding day 2. I really almost feel sorry for the guy, he could have at least made a case for himself. People who dont strike me a town, but I am not willing to kill of just yet. Teemu - Good activity recently, the big problem his is you deflect a lot. Player x says i think thats scummy and you say well i think you are scummy for saying that. be more honest and open and be prepared to back yourself when someone asks why Seeya - I brought you up earlier in the game for fluffing long messages and you said you would do your best to be more concise. Still waiting for it. Gb - you are honestly unreadable atm to me. On one hand your thought process seems good, but on the other hand you seem to want to give in to fast or not be put in a position where you need to create a solid defense for yourself Tolkien - I like that you are ready to go now, I just need you to push your ideas around a bit more and lets get rollin. On August 05 2014 17:13 lilwade wrote: Operation Town Victory Ok guys, let us get this game on the right track for town win. We have 5 players left and potentially 1-2 mafias members alive. Plan I am town cop. N1: I investigated teemu, sadly he just passed away last night. N2: I investigated Seeyalater and guess what Green check good to go (hopefully you will team up with me here) Basically me and seeya have to decide on which one of you remaining 3 players tolkien, poof, GB is actually town so we can lynch the remaining mafia. If there is only 1 mafia member left we have a huge change at the outright victory. Here are my current townie rankings 1) Lord Tolkien, I think you are very much town, and your recent filter is outstanding. 2) Poofter, I think there is a good possibility you bused DC day 1 to pocket the remaining town, but chances are that would be more unlikely. Your recent posts are good as well and I would like to see what you have to say to me now. 3) GB I was never able to get a good read on you throughout the day 1 and night 1 phases, As of late I am still undecided that is why you are #3 Ride or die, Any questions ladies? I really need you to explain that. Poof, notice what I kept on red on second quote. He is buddying up with cya. Supports my theory. The guy isn't even here to help us with the lynch. I'll ask again: check his filters, a lot of null reads throughout the entire game. He starts agressive with poof, then easily unvotes and gives poof a townpass, sheeps poof and doesn't change vote on a possible mafia partner because he couldn't get the hammer off anyway, the he goes COMPLETELY passive. A LOT of null reads. Like the one I've just quoted, or this one, with a translation by me: + Show Spoiler + On July 30 2014 10:26 lilwade wrote: Teemu started off active he kind of dabbled in some good questions but pursue like I would have, he had a lot of filler posts to appear more active, and he has currently been asleep for almost 16 hours. If I had to question your marry bang kill list i would say: 1) I am not so sure that there are any marry's here yet, kudus for you actually choosing someone tho Jennyhell seems to be very active and appear townie, albeit, I never make a true top town d1 2) I am on your kill list when I the town hero, you may not see it now but d2 is when the big boys come to play. 3) A bit quick to judge seeya, I think he has had some solid posts and is trying to contribute to town. "Nobody is mafia, nobody is town, and if you're reading me as mafia you're doing it wrong. I'll show I'm good at day2 if you let me live. I'm still charging solar beam lol" | ||
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On August 06 2014 11:47 Seeyalater wrote: I have to wonder, why are you only pleading to him and not me? I also have a vote on you beetehdubs, why not try to plead to both of us? The only reason I can think for this, is 1. you're the last mafia and you're trying to plead with Poof who has been riding on me this whole time, and "choose" not to believe wade and/or me at the moment because you know wade was right on the greencheck, or you are just as donkey as I am(even if you do think otherwise) and fail to even grasp that concept. Because I know the way he plays and I'm sure he will find the same patterns he found last game. The only thing I've got to convince you are the arguments I bring to the table, which are... well... on the table, already. | ||
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On August 06 2014 12:21 Tehpoofter wrote: Lilwade should be around more. Lilwade you had the plan of finding one town. Have you done so? Are you trying? Check the red parts, tell me what you think. | ||
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Lilwade has got all the mafia traits IMO. I'm putting my vote on him again. He needs to explain the red part that I quoted. ##Unvote ##Vote: lilwade | ||
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On August 06 2014 12:37 lilwade wrote: So far I am sad that glowing bear has just gone tunnel on me. Poof I really hope you are fucking town or else. I know what I am in this game and I will most likely die tonight so... ##vote: GlowingBear Now or never to put a defense for yourself and not tunnel me.. This is ride or die. If you think I'm tunneling you, you're pretty wrong. I have a scum read on cya. I have a scum read on poof. I have a huge scum read on you. I am putting efforts to understand your posts from both blue and red perspective. It makes more sense when redish. Explain to me what I put on red. If you think I did not defend myself enough today, you're really not paying attention. You just appeared when started being pressured. | ||
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On August 06 2014 12:37 Seeyalater wrote: Ok GB I have a question for you. If you think Wade seems fake, wouldn't that confirm me as town, since its very, very unlikely there's 2 mafia left? Yes, it confirms you town. We just have to kill him to confirm you + win the game. If we kill him and he turns blue, it also kinda confirms you, but you can still be godfather. If we kill him and he turns green, it means you are not confirmed at all. | ||
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On August 06 2014 12:38 lilwade wrote: My hunch on Meat was just speculation thats why I put the precursor. And I am not sure why you redded my N1 and N2 Posting that you think meatpudding could be a god father while on N1? What kind of speculation is that? You speculate someone is godfather and not simply mafia? This was you hinting you were blue and that you had a check or were going to get a check on meatpudding. Which makes sense, he was the second wagon after all. That sounded like you checked meatpudding. Then you come day3 and say you checked TEEMU? You lied somewhere. | ||
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But this shows you are blue. But you speculated it at NIGHT? Taking the risk of GETTING KILLED? NOPE. | ||
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Anyone can dive his filter and get the same idea I get from him: he mostly lurked, did not contribute and posted a lot of null reads. I'll take a single post of him that will say a lot. He basically says that (i) jenny and poof is town (remember that he started the game with a short push on poof and suddenly unvoted him and gave him a free town pass very earlier in the game and for no solid motive); (ii) meatpudding looks scummy but he doesn't really know, he will see what happens day 2 and (iii) rest of people are null reads. "You look scum but I don't know, gotta filter dive you". He said that a lot on his filter. This is the post: On August 01 2014 11:25 lilwade wrote: Marry Still a bachelor atm Bang Poofter I really dig that you followed me up earlier on DC and held your ground big points to you for that. We might have to move to a different state that allows said proposals, but I never marry prematurely. P.S. No matter how many times I look at your name I want to call you poofster. Jenny - I know you do not see what a knight in shining armor I am but furthur investigations might change your mind To me you are the most town so far w/ poofter close behind Sadly these are the only two I really trust atm. Kill Meatpudding - Honestly take no heed to this next statement but, I have a hunch that he may be godfather but I don't know why he would give up this early. He does seem super scummy but more to come on Meatpudding day 2. I really almost feel sorry for the guy, he could have at least made a case for himself. People who dont strike me a town, but I am not willing to kill of just yet. Teemu - Good activity recently, the big problem his is you deflect a lot. Player x says i think thats scummy and you say well i think you are scummy for saying that. be more honest and open and be prepared to back yourself when someone asks why Seeya - I brought you up earlier in the game for fluffing long messages and you said you would do your best to be more concise. Still waiting for it. Gb - you are honestly unreadable atm to me. On one hand your thought process seems good, but on the other hand you seem to want to give in to fast or not be put in a position where you need to create a solid defense for yourself Tolkien - I like that you are ready to go now, I just need you to push your ideas around a bit more and lets get rollin. Ok, now take a look at the part I bolded in red. Lilwade says this was a speculation. What kind of speculation is that? Why would someone speculate a player is a godfather instead of simply implying he is mafia? ONLY a cop would have this kind of doubt. That is if he already got a green check. So this could be lilwade hinting that he is a cop and that he got a green check on meatpudding. BUT HE DID THAT ON NIGHT1! Why taking the risk of dying night one to say that, if he was a blue? He would only do that knowing he wouldn't die. Only mafia knows that. Odd enough? He starts the Day3 saying that he (A) Copchecked TEEMU night 1 and (B) Copchecked SEEYALATER night 2. Wait a minute, he just hinted he copchecked meatpudding night 1 on the post I've quoted. Which actually makes sense, meatpudding was the second wagon day1 and was probably going to get lynched day 2. But now he says he copchecked Teemu. TEEMU? Why? He is at least LYING about who he copchecked. Copchecking teemu makes no sense. Hinting he copchecked meatpudding at night makes no sense. Speculating meatpudding is godfather instead of simply mafia makes no sense. Oh, you think it's not enough? So why don't you check his lack of contribution troughout the game, specially day 3, crucial to town? He is not even trying to catch scum. Also, lilwade isn't even trying to tell WHY I am mafia. He is just jumping on the wagon because, well, I'm pushing him and whatever if I die, everybody is thinking he is cop and he will get a VT mislynched. | ||
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Cya and poof aren't out of the hook, but the evidences on lilwade's gameplay are too strong. | ||
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Poof (1): Tolkien Seeyalater (0): Glowingbear (3): Poof, Seeyalater, lilwade lilwade (1): GlowingBear You are mislyinching a VT, I repeat, and I've already brought every argument I could. If you have any doubt regarding me, ask it, please. I want to clarify it. Just consider my case on lilwade for a minute and see if it isn't the most solid anyone has brought to the game. | ||
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You are lynching a townie. Goddamit!! I will change to day then but I AM TOWN!!! | ||
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Switch votes do seeya now, at least! Tolkien, I'll sheep you because you are town, but killing me is not a good idea! Tell me who you might kill and I sheep you but don't kill me! | ||
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What reason I would have to push a hard target other than I'm a townie sure he is mafia??? | ||
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Lol we really deserve to lose. | ||
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Night kills were people that had suspicion on him. People that thought he was pocketing everybody. Tolkien, filter dive him. | ||
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Everybody was town and you've just wasted a week! | ||
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On August 10 2014 01:00 iamperfection wrote: Title not centered. Town wasn't in bold. 2/10 future as host unlikely. Hosting using a phone. Involved 100% into hosting. Best host ever! | ||
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EDIT: Tolkien did a great job man, he looked so townie to me, just not at LYLO. LYLO got you, although I was sure it was poof. I'm happy I was lynched because I would totally vote poof! | ||
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On August 10 2014 01:23 Seeyalater wrote: You can ask a mod to check my pm's if you want betch. Snapchat byaaaaatch | ||
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On August 10 2014 01:39 Amiko wrote: gg you all, I thought both sides played pretty well. Haha >:D I'll try to post a few comments on the game or players in the next day or so. Also, I will be hosting the next newbie mafia game and GlowingBear has offered to cohost! It should be posted tonight or tomorrow for signups, if anyone is interested in playing or coaching keep an eye open for it! Fixed color because: respect my authoritah By the way, this newbie game Amiko will be hosting will be really cool! I wish I could play it | ||
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On August 10 2014 04:23 Lord Tolkien wrote: * This was also why I figured I should've tried to keep you alive as opposed to seeya D3, incidentally. You've been making hints that you would be critical of Poofter unlike seeya. Completely. You had me pocketed. You would have played very very well. But thankfully I decided to push lilwade instead. I could've brought a lot of reasons why poof could be mafia and I think that, by he end of day3, I could've convinced Seeyalater to lynch him. I'm glad I've pushed the cop LOL. And if you had voted lilwade with me night kill would be clueless to town. Mostly, your night kill indicated it should be you or poof. | ||
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