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On July 13 2014 00:58 Alakaslam wrote: Idgaf you are all so blind and tunneled it is poimtless and has been once my actual content was ignored If you are referring to the case you made about Eden talking about a Scum QT I am not impressed. Give me your read on OnceKing. I for one did not remember a single post of him and it seems like he has 5 pages of filter. You might got something there. Talk to me. | ||
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HaruRh said you were scum for not shitting up the thread. And Exo was scum because he made a big post. Or it was sarcasm. I read it somewhere. | ||
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That's why I am ok with his lynch over HaruRH/GlowingBear. But I don't want to make marv and rayn mad. | ||
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On July 13 2014 01:21 sqrtofneg1 wrote: Anyone with at least half a brain should be able to see that, if they filterdive them both. I don't see it. Pls point it out. | ||
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On July 13 2014 01:26 IAmRobik wrote: He did say at least half a brain, koshi, which rules you out. I have a full brain, and I don't see it Wait. I am starting to see it. | ||
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I going to dinner now. | ||
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On July 13 2014 05:29 GlowingBear wrote: [/i][/i][/i][/i]-> About my suspicions on ExO: As I said before, my preferred method of chasing scum is looking after passivity/overly friendly behavior, although not the only one (this is the last time I'm saying this, you all know it by now). So, what raised suspicions on ExO was this particular post: + Show Spoiler + On July 12 2014 00:54 ExO_ wrote: Some thoughts: Team D- I tend to have weird hours that I can be on, and I'm not just reading the TL forums 24/7, so while I can't always be as active as robik saying I'm not doing anything now isn't really giving me a fair shake in my opinion (@27ninjabunnies). Every game I've seen 27nb in she goes around being very caustic and arrogant towards some people, and very nice to others. It seems to be regardless of her alignment. I find it to be unhelpful, as she goes off on tangents with wild accusations filled with bullshit reasoning for scum reads. What this means in terms of the game is it's hard for me to read her as mafia or town. But I think she does more to cause problems in a town, than actually help with finding scum and uniting the town players. Poofter isn't saying much and is kinda letting her get out in front. I don't know how to interpret that, but in World Cup poofter stayed kinda quiet until it came time to push me in the wrong directions. Nearly worked too  .So a null read on the team but I generally think constantly creating a toxic atmosphere for the town is a bad thing even if they are town. Team Whine Slam is posting a fuck ton of 1 liners/pictures/general nonsense (hijole?) and sqrtofneg1 is saying nothing at all. In larger games I think mafia lurking works better than in a smaller game such as this, but it's almost nothing to read off of. Will have to wait to see what they vote day 1 and what happens night 1 to really know what to think of them. Team VendettaStrada I'm not sure if they're both posting from the same account, but it looks like it's all raynpelioneet. In my limited experience here I haven't seen him before, and though he hasn't posted a fuck ton of stuff, seems townish it to me. Looks like he's contributing. Team needs a lawyer I always kinda read HaruRH scummy, he has a little bit of omgus going on, but I miss read him in world cup so it gives me pause. So I look over at glowing bear, and he hasn't said a whole lot either. Just got caught up in the Kenpachi business. But doesn't really read town to me. I lean scum here, but I'm hesitant. Team Magic Carpet Not a lot of posts from straightform just asking questions "Robik why won't u post?, Why would exo/robik not posting Day 1 not be bad for town" etc... Palmar calls out team lawyer for not posting anything of value, but I see very little of value from him at all. After reading his filter i think Palmar is the most scummy looking person so far in the thread. *scum read* Team GoodCornBadCorn Completely afk. Like 1 combined other than their /in posts. like what....? Do they not know the game is happening? No reads yet for obvious reasons Team Crotch Rocket Not a lot being said from good Karma. Eden is posting quite a bit, and seems okay. I don't think mafia are going to be quite as active as eden is being, but it could be good coaching happening. Town read for now though Team Fraud walRus Sinani saying hardly anything, OnceKing's vote on our team I think is bad: it's based on robik not playing the game, when robik has been pretty active. Hasn't really expanded on any reads and got pretty caught up in ol' kenpachi but I don't get a scum vibe from him. Null read Team M squared mderg hasn't said too much, but I've generally liked and agreed with what marv has to say. I think Town So that leaves me with Town M squared Vendetta Strata (aka how can I make a parody of that team name) Rocket Crotch Null D- Whine* Goodcornbadcorn* Fraud walRus Scum Lawyer Magic Carpet *Mostly afk So, basically, a huge post with tons of null reads and three town reads. This is, to me, being over friendly. Moreover, if you check his scum guesses, he thinks me and haru might be scums because we are not posting things with value. However, he is hesitating on us. Then, he thinks Palmar is scum for saying that we are scum for not posting anything of value. So, he is attacking Palmar for using the same logic as him. So, not a good post. This is what made him feel suspicious for me. ********* --> About my suspicions on Robik Alright, I felt Robik was suspicious because he said he wasn't going to post and then started to spam things, or that is what I felt. Something like these posts: + Show Spoiler + On July 11 2014 12:29 IAmRobik wrote: read the thread. not gonna answer this again cause i'm a lil whiney bitch On July 11 2014 12:21 IAmRobik wrote: Didn't think about that and didn't have to worry about it because when I opened my role pm I found out that I was town. On July 11 2014 16:32 IAmRobik wrote: Cause I am god-tier at reading Rayn. And on that note I'm going to bed On July 11 2014 23:51 IAmRobik wrote: Man, if I was town jr and marv was my town sr, I would be so content right now. I literally would have 0 posts in the thread On July 11 2014 23:55 IAmRobik wrote: I mean, my comment had nothing to do with the game or my reads. It was a random thought that came to my head. On July 12 2014 03:45 IAmRobik wrote: just looked into the first game. I was in it. I was town. You were medic. You didn't save me n1. Policy lynch: ##vote: oncekingworstmedicnaeuoceana http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/postmessage.php?quote=611&topic_id=461355 On July 12 2014 01:40 IAmRobik wrote: Man this post is so fucking scummy, but this guy is town. Don't lynch him! On July 12 2014 00:57 IAmRobik wrote: TOWNIEST POST IN THE MOTHA FUCKIN THREAD. THIS GUY IS SO FUCKING BRUTALLY TOWN. IF ANYONE VOTES TO LYNCH HIM, YOU WILL FACE MY WRATH These are quotes with Robik's sarcasm (which is really funny imo). But the thing is, looking out of context, it just seems that he wants to spam the thread. While re-reading his filters and trying to put those quotes on context, it looked like he was actually answering people. But... I don't know. Poor answers tbh. He insists to let ExO post more too much, also. And... why quoting his partner just to say "look ppl, this guy is town!". I just think that his spamming is not good, it looks suspicious to me because it just makes the thread difficult to read. Finally, I haven't seem a hard push coming from that team. That's what raised suspicions on him. But people who played with Robik before can say better if I'm being too hard on his playfulness. ********** --> About my suspicions on Eden Same as Robik. Funny but unhelpful in some posts: + Show Spoiler + On July 11 2014 11:35 Eden1892 wrote: i'm allowed to do that because i'm confirmed town On July 11 2014 11:58 Eden1892 wrote: is D short for Dumb Shit That Doesn't Matter because Team TheD isn't talking about anything else right now On July 11 2014 12:04 Eden1892 wrote: it is, i use it all the time very high salt content though, much like your post On July 11 2014 12:43 Eden1892 wrote: wow ok count 'em up there's #2 we goin to da top town ![[image loading]](http://cdn2.vox-cdn.com/assets/4636903/cockypop2.gif) On July 11 2014 14:07 Eden1892 wrote: Boy it sure is boring being a Louisiana VOLTRON Mason with bunnies and OnceKing... Ok, I'll stop here because I've made my point. But that's not the only suspicious part. I find weird his strong push on poof based on a policy, while I think poof was being sarcastic regarding Eden's claim. But even if he thought poof was scum, I think he should reason it better. His explanation was late: + Show Spoiler + On July 11 2014 11:56 Eden1892 wrote: y'all are dumb as hell smh no one is using the Kenpachi Rule this is actually the Ihcapnek Rule, where someone is scum because they believe a VT claim too quickly, not because they cast doubt on the VT claim this is much better than the Kenpachi Rule and you should all follow the Ihcapnek Rule and vote TheD Ok, so, if he thinks this policy is good, he should push hard on it, no? He didn't: + Show Spoiler + On July 11 2014 14:59 Eden1892 wrote: Sweet. I didn't actually "get the feeling" blahblah at all, actually I was starting to back off my scumread of slot TheD and bunnies' recent posts have solidified that move. We're not lynching bunnies today ##UNVOTE Team TheD ##VOTE Team FakeClaim Why? Robik is on Team FakeClaim, and Robik claimed town. Therefore he is fake claiming and therefore he is scum. Checkmate Then, suddenly, Robik is town: + Show Spoiler + On July 12 2014 06:38 Eden1892 wrote: ok i'm on page 40 everybody shut the fuck up about robik he's town this is a waste bunnies is not toxic to the thread, her questions might not always be going places and her spat with robik or whoever tf back in the 30s was silly but it doesn't matter because she is also town we're lynching sqrt today, god bless america someone read the post i highlighted in response to exo's reads and tell me how it isn't scum-motivated His scumreads flips too quickly, look what followed up: + Show Spoiler + On July 12 2014 14:34 Eden1892 wrote: trufax, ignoring Slamroot for now right now I would only be okay with killing the following teams (listed in order in 2nd post of thread): - WeDemandALawyer - Magic Computer - GoodCopBadCop - M&M of those I like Magic Computer, GoodCopBadCop and M&M the most for potential next-lynches I'm not trying to ignore your case on WeDemandALawyer, promise, it's just weird to me that none of those slots have done anything I really remember/consider important On July 12 2014 15:21 Eden1892 wrote: ok friends here is a post count thus far, each number corresponds to the teams in the OP and the parentheses numbers are each poster 1: 31 posts (020/011) 2: 36 posts (025/011) 3: 99 posts (044/055) 4: 123 posts (031/092) 5: 64 posts (043/021) 6: 21 posts (009/012) 7: 80 posts (008/072) 8: 93 posts (077/016) 9: 89 posts (011/078) 10: 91 posts (076/015) preliminary thoughts by team: - slot 1 can stay, low posting but slenderman is doing work IMO, not killing this slot - slot 2 is whatever i'll sort it out later but i would be ok killing it - slot 3 is scum, we're killing today - slot 4 is memorable as town + high-posting so we're not killing this slot - slot 5 is oddly unmemorable for >60 posts, would be okay killing - slot 6 TBD, low post count and not memorable but a lot of that is Koshi replacing in - slot 7 is confirmed town, we're never killing this slot - slot 8 is funny because robik said he wasn't gonna talk but then has a bunch of posts. also we're not killing this slot because it's memorable as town + high-posting - slot 9 is confirmed town, we're never killing this slot - slot 10 is unmemorable despite a lot of posting, would be okay killing this slot tl;dr: - slot 3 scum - slots 1, 4, 7, 8, 9 are off the table - slot 6 tbd - slots 2, 6, 10 look good, probably in that order That concludes what I found suspicious on Robik, ExO and Eden. I would like to see marv's opinion on this post. Waiting for it. ExO_: To me his list post was ExO trying to figure out the game. Which is a good thing. I didn't get the feeling he was playing nice with everybody, or on purpose being nice to everybody. I was pretty ok with it. Then after his listpost he was extremely confident against both Palmar & Marv. Wich indicates he felt strong about his reads. Also the joke with the bathwater is hilarious. Anyhoezles, Exo town. Robik: I don't get what you are saying. Robik was going to spam but didn't, how is that scummy? Then his jokes were funny but also out of context? Meh. Not good stuff. Eden: Not following a policy and going on with the game is always townie except when there is scum motivation behind not following the policy. Here it clearly wasn't. The following 2 votes are jkes. So sad you don't see the Robik vote is a 100% jokevote. So scummy that you then try to make his 'scumread" into 'townread" from Robik look scummy. Or the fact that he changed votes a lot? That's not scummy at all. Very bad stuff Anyway, Eden/ExO_are my top towns. I even feel pretty good about them. The entire game already. Glowingbear pretty scummy. | ||
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On July 13 2014 06:19 OnceKing wrote: slamroot is like almost 100% mafia can you point out any meaningful content that either of them has said the closest they come to it is spouting unjustified reads like "eden is mafia, exo is mafia" and they won't answer questions as to why. and yet even though they believe in an edenkarma/iamexo scumteam they don't think i'm town? there are too many inconsistencies. in fact they have so many posts and yet have practically said nothing and just invite people into meaningless exchanges. the only reason why people are scared to lynch them right now is because "ohhh well its slam so i dont think its that scummy" or "b-b-but people aren't defending them" -- stop that. if you're mafia with these guys the way they're acting do you actually think you can defend them? and slam has been acting scummy even compared to his usual standard as noted by robik earlier with meta references. there's just no way they can be town with the whole "i give up, nobody listens to my scumreads even though i haven't justified them, this is a mislynch" stuff. This guy is so town. Pretty sure scum can't type this on a misslynch. Or he is mafia jeebus. | ||
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On July 14 2014 00:45 Stratiform wrote: @Koshi, do you still scumread me? Yesterday I wanted to switch of you to Alakaslamroot. I didn't see the vote thread and I didn't see CR already voted them. Back then I felt "meh" about you. I still do and haven't seen anything that confirms you town. | ||
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On July 13 2014 07:01 27ninjabunnies wrote: No, I suck at using the search bar to find things like that. I only know of games we were in together. Witchcraft II Survivor Series Mafia It is always a pleasure to read more Koshi. | ||
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On July 13 2014 07:08 27ninjabunnies wrote: Also, if Slamroot flips town, tell me, what information will we gain from it? W0t? this +1000 | ||
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On July 13 2014 07:12 27ninjabunnies wrote: Alo, Eden and OKs meta read on each other is a bit weird, tho I could see why that read would be made. But they could still be mafia together. Also, where are their other halves? (Not that I can say anything, my other half is... who knows.... Lol) Robik's been pushing scum on me for poofter being afk, but doesn't even mention the fact that sinani and GK have barely posted a thing. JS 2 people call each other 100% town. Bunny calls them both scum while agreeing that the reads make sense. | ||
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On July 13 2014 07:18 27ninjabunnies wrote: Wrong. You can see who pushed hardest. You can see who defended hardest. You can also see who just sheeped. So much info gained. Wait. Is it me or what the initial question not a trick question? It was like "amagad if Slamroot dies we have nothing at all" And then Eden says 'nothing' which is correct. You can just trust their reads. That's all. On which Bunnies replies with things that contradict her first statement that nothing can be learned from this lynch. Eden town / OK town ezpz | ||
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On July 13 2014 07:22 Palmar wrote: I feel pretty confident OK's/Eden's teams are town. Everything nb says makes me want to lynch her, and the previous notion that Tehpoofter was actually playing has completely disappeared. I think their team has a good chance of flipping mafia. Then there's the other slots. Robik is a bit of a dick as usual, such a shame because he usually has good reads, but because he doesn't get that half of mafia is convincing people, he's basically useless as town most games. ExO_ on the other hand really stood up to me when I was arguing with him, I'm not willing to give him a pass on it, but he just feels too wordy and shit to be mafia. I'm going to assume they're town, Marv worries me a bit this game. I feel uneasy that he's in a decent position while having done very little, but I also know he's genuinely away, I think we let him slide today, and analyse tomorrow based on what we know. I haven't really looked into mderg's contributions. Coming up, more stuff. This is all so so true. SO TRUE. | ||
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On July 13 2014 08:58 Palmar wrote: Btw, if I self-meta my shitty town play, I reach the conclusion mafia teams must be a) chairman ray/koshi b) rayn/slender why? Because I haven't read shit from those teams as nothing they've said sounds important at all. I always ignore mafia because they never say anything fun, so if I am correct that I always ignore mafia, these teams must be mafia. QED get logickd. all lies and slander. | ||
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