World Heavyweight Championship Mafia II

On March 25 2014 20:46 marvellosity wrote:
Going for <8 pages of filter D1

need to be able to play scum in the future

On March 26 2014 14:19 thrawn2112 wrote:
rayn are you scumreading robik? just say it if you are

On March 26 2014 14:43 IAmRobik wrote:

No they don't.

Let me expound: there are appropriate and inappropriate spots to use smiley faces. The two times Rayn was mafia, they were put in spots where they seemed forced to me. In my experience, it is more likely for mafia to post a smiley because they need to feign happiness. In the 2-3 mafia games that I've seen from Rayn, he's made a smiley emote that didn't sync with his post. It didn't jive well. I called him out on it. This game he didn't post a smiley. He didn't feel the need to. The one time that he did use it so far (that I've noticed), it was actually applicable. Like, you're going to read this and think it's shit and never believe it and never use it. That doesn't mean I'm not correct.

You can claim whatever you want holyflare. You're wrong on Rayn.

On March 26 2014 15:28 thrawn2112 wrote:
phagga:

I thought rayn was lying about point #2 because of how stupid it was. So I thought he was scum reading robik but I wanted to make sure I was interpreting the post correctly

apparently #2 is truth so rayn's mafia

On March 26 2014 15:32 raynpelikoneet wrote:

So here you literally prove you have no idea why i am townreading Robik and have no intention of figuring that out. In my "game" post i never explain why i townread Robik, it's pretty clear from that post. You are too smart to make dumb conclusions based on incomplete information and that's why i think you are mafia.

On March 26 2014 15:52 Holyflare wrote:


what do you make of this set of events that just happened? i like that you jumped back to robik's post about not seeing any rayn town games so what do you think of rayn saying me pointing it out is shit logic? and why does he not want to talk to me if he thinks i'm capable of doing this "shit logic" as town?

On March 26 2014 14:21 Holyflare wrote:
well then you are mafia because this is a crock of shit



You think he is town but he is displaying odd traits BUT THEN YOU POINT IT OUT THAT HE IS DOING IT INSTEAD OF WAITING.

Rayn, you are mafia bro.

On March 26 2014 16:08 thrawn2112 wrote:
lol rayn it's so funny watching you pretend like you know why i'm voting for you

On March 26 2014 16:34 Holyflare wrote:


this is not true

On March 26 2014 16:32 Holyflare wrote:
because his initial read was your FIRST POST didn't contain a smiley, none of the games you have played as mafia ever contain a smiley in your first post so then he says it's your other posts that didn't convince him that you weren't town so then it's your other posts and not only your first post and THEN he says you haven't posted an out of place smiley in any of your posts

if this was his initial read it would stated first about the smiley thing in all of your posts, not just your first post

On March 26 2014 13:33 IAmRobik wrote:
Cause I do read him town off of that 1 post mostly. Having said that, none of his posts this game have made me change my opinion of him. Also, he hasn't posted a smiley emoticon in the first few posts of his, which indicates further than he's town

Mafia Rayn would end this post with

On March 26 2014 16:55 Holyflare wrote:


you returned to the thread and the first thing you point out is how robik has not read a single town game of rayns

i question him on this, point out it's weird, question why rayn didn't pick up on it and then rayn makes a giant wall of text that says nothing other than he has a town read on robik who at this point looks like he is full of crap, he then further perpetuates that my case is "bad" has "shit logic" and then flat out tells me he will not talk to me anymore at all.

Later and ONLY later he then reveals his read on robik was based on past games where he gets town reads and not reads based on logic after all of those posts I had made that asked him to explain, asked why he didn't question. The first post I made he could have instantly pointed this out but he did not, he waited and argued and continued to make me try and point it out.

On March 26 2014 14:19 raynpelikoneet wrote:

That's not what he said. You are interpreting the post in a way it's not meant. That's absolutely not what Robik says.

2 is incorrect too.

On March 26 2014 17:01 Holyflare wrote:


and no, you are misreading. He says he would post a smiley emoticon after his FIRST POST and this is fucking redundant because my vote is on rayn for the reasons i have stated so many many many times

On March 26 2014 17:15 Holyflare wrote:


because my vote is not on him it is on rayn for doing everything that he just did, also the fact that when i questioned robik his first response was:



This implies that his read on rayn was based on his first post and I established that the smiley stuff that he brought up later was to do with his FIRST POST and not his later posts which he only mentioned after i questioned him. Like I said, it's a lie because rayns first post never contains a smiley face. I've said this all before.

Phagga, what do you think of rayns logic on thrawn? You haven't commented on any of it, only about me.

On March 26 2014 17:07 thrawn2112 wrote:


then read it again. he's making stuff up and not making any sense.

the initial reason I voted for him which I haven';t explained until now, is the tone of his "game" post. it looks very fake and not liek something I expect rayn to write regardless of whatever I think about the content of the post. as to the content...

"2) My "town wins this belt" post was indeed a town claim. I was happy rolling town and i don't give a fuck who else is town because i just find two mafia and then town wins the belt. I am also amused that Robik has called my alignment correctly out three times based on my usage / usagelessness. I don't know how he does it and i don't think it's alignment indicative but i am really interested in seeing is so some sort of psychic or what because i have a townread on him in this game. I don't believe Robik yet, i mean, i don't believe that's a reliable tell but we'll see about that when / if he does that a couple of times more and if he is right or wrong."

-i doubt rayn doesn't care about winning the belt

- "I don't know how he does it and i don't think it's alignment indicative" what the fuck does this even mean? if robik is scum then of course he is not "some sort of psychic" who is excellent at reading rayn. if robik is scum the robik KNOWS RAYN IS TOWN and doesn't need to try and figure out if rayn is town. like... i can't properly explain the problem I have with this quote because I don't even know what the quote is meant to say. it's just nonsense.

-this line: "i don't believe that's a reliable tell but we'll see about that when / if he does that a couple of times more and if he is right or wrong." WTF DOES THIS MEAN? it's the same as the earlier quote. rayn is just talking nonsense here which is the easiest way to figure out his alignment.

when I read rayn's game my first thought was "ok, rayn is being sarcastic for most if not all of this"

so I ask him to clarify if he was actually reading robik as scum

but he says all those statements are real? lol

On March 26 2014 14:50 thrawn2112 wrote:
rayn I know that you have a lower opinion of my ability to read people than you do of HF's opinion. plus, calling holyflare "retarded like he was in las game" does not even make sense because last game holyflare caught mafia instantly

so you're givnig holyflare a town read based on a statement about his play last game which isn't accurate, and a "i think thrawn is smarter than HF so thrawn must be scum" argument when I know you repect HF's reads more than you do mine.

and like hf is saying, nothing you have said about robik has made any sense.

so what is going on?

2) My "town wins this belt" post was indeed a town claim. I was happy rolling town and i don't give a fuck who else is town because i just find two mafia and then town wins the belt. I am also amused that Robik has called my alignment correctly out three times based on my usage / usagelessness. I don't know how he does it and i don't think it's alignment indicative but i am really interested in seeing is so some sort of psychic or what because i have a townread on him in this game. I don't believe Robik yet, i mean, i don't believe that's a reliable tell but we'll see about that when / if he does that a couple of times more and if he is right or wrong.

On March 26 2014 18:46 Holyflare wrote:


well no not 100% of the time but thrawn doesn't say that to be the case

On March 26 2014 18:49 Holyflare wrote:
because he defends you for not explaining your reasons when I ask and has eventually town read you but then uses the same argument for thrawn who is then mafia after you already explained your reasons and my reasons why he might be mafia