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rayn just mad I was right.
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On March 19 2014 22:04 Holyflare wrote:
The only thing odd about koshi is when he said coag wasn't overdefending but agreed when coag said dp was overdefending for a lot less
What do you conclude about that?
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On March 19 2014 22:04 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Palmar do you seriously think Koshi and Giggletummy should have had such a strong townread on Coag at that time?
I should. Because I am smart & talented.
It was obvious to me he was town. I told you why a couple times but you wouldn't listen. So pls don't tell me I didn't told you why you should have stopped the tunnel. I did so in 3 different posts.
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On March 19 2014 22:07 Holyflare wrote:Show nested quote +On March 19 2014 22:04 Koshi wrote:On March 19 2014 22:04 Holyflare wrote:
The only thing odd about koshi is when he said coag wasn't overdefending but agreed when coag said dp was overdefending for a lot less What do you conclude about that? Only scenario is that you know coag will post his seal under pressure so look good for defending him. Other than that, nothing. That's why i say you're pretty town disregarding that. Talk about thrawn please
Didn't like how he entered the thread policy voting for the hydra while there was content available from only 1 person on the Hydra. I have no interest in pushing thrawn hard atm because I do not think he should be looked at. I don't know how strong his early game is but I do know I can trust him to put in a lot of effort in a game and I know that he bleeds town when he does this. (Witchcraft mafia)
If he continues to be a grey flower in this game by repeating arguments (like you pointed out) I will consider lynching him but I atm I don't really need to lynch him.
He gave me an extremely lazy townread though. Because this game I am pretty hardtrying and he gave me a townread for "having fun" while I am not particulary having much fun.
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On March 19 2014 22:10 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Koshi show me those posts where you tell why Coag is town. Maybe i am missing something because i can't find it in your filter.
It was not that Coag is town. But that you were painting him too red for something that wasn't extremely bad in my eyes. I also wanted you to look at other people and not spend all time on Coag. It wasn't doing the town atmosphere any favors. Looking back at my filter I was pretty protective about Coag from the get go but like I said, I am talented.
On March 19 2014 08:28 Koshi wrote:
I need better punctuation sometimes.
Point is: Coag typed stuff to type stuff. Even though it was disruptive, it was not scummy.
On March 19 2014 08:36 Koshi wrote:
Well, it is a bit over the top. But faking anger (or showing it) works as town on TL. I did it in survivor because I knew it would get the pressure off me and as town that is also important. The difference here being that it is really early in the game but still.
I am not sold on coag scum atm at all.
On March 19 2014 09:17 Koshi wrote:Show nested quote +On March 19 2014 09:13 DarthPunk wrote:On March 19 2014 09:11 Koshi wrote:
Exactly my thoughts.
I am not skimming rayn atm cuz he is rayn and I need to keep up with him cuz we will be super duper scumfinding bros but I am not anymore interested in finding out what Coag means with his posts. I am simply not going to lynch Coag. Rayn is MY super townie friend tho.... Jelly.  But yeah. I don't understand how you could NOT want to lynch coag after all this nonsense. Ragin is not a good reason and he has been bullshitting continuously since the initial pressure. This is how Koshi looks at Coag Coag post seal (cool he is town) ---> Coag is superactive (cool now he is even more likely town) ---> Coag posts something lets-call-it-silly (w.e) ----> rayn goes ham (ok let's support rayn and see if Coag responds properly) ---> Caog responds quite rage likely (I am back ok with Coag) ---> 120 posts related to coag that are hard to read (fuck this shit, I am not lynching Coag)
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On March 19 2014 22:23 raynpelikoneet wrote:Show nested quote +On March 19 2014 22:21 Koshi wrote:On March 19 2014 22:10 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Koshi show me those posts where you tell why Coag is town. Maybe i am missing something because i can't find it in your filter. It was not that Coag is town. But that you were painting him too red for something that wasn't extremely bad in my eyes. I also wanted you to look at other people and not spend all time on Coag. It wasn't doing the town atmosphere any favors. Looking back at my filter I was pretty protective about Coag from the get go but like I said, I am talented. On March 19 2014 08:28 Koshi wrote:
I need better punctuation sometimes.
Point is: Coag typed stuff to type stuff. Even though it was disruptive, it was not scummy. On March 19 2014 08:36 Koshi wrote:
Well, it is a bit over the top. But faking anger (or showing it) works as town on TL. I did it in survivor because I knew it would get the pressure off me and as town that is also important. The difference here being that it is really early in the game but still.
I am not sold on coag scum atm at all. On March 19 2014 09:17 Koshi wrote:On March 19 2014 09:13 DarthPunk wrote:On March 19 2014 09:11 Koshi wrote:
Exactly my thoughts.
I am not skimming rayn atm cuz he is rayn and I need to keep up with him cuz we will be super duper scumfinding bros but I am not anymore interested in finding out what Coag means with his posts. I am simply not going to lynch Coag. Rayn is MY super townie friend tho.... Jelly. But yeah. I don't understand how you could NOT want to lynch coag after all this nonsense. Ragin is not a good reason and he has been bullshitting continuously since the initial pressure. This is how Koshi looks at Coag Coag post seal (cool he is town) ---> Coag is superactive (cool now he is even more likely town) ---> Coag posts something lets-call-it-silly (w.e) ----> rayn goes ham (ok let's support rayn and see if Coag responds properly) ---> Caog responds quite rage likely (I am back ok with Coag) ---> 120 posts related to coag that are hard to read (fuck this shit, I am not lynching Coag) Now this is interesting considering this: Show nested quote +On March 19 2014 22:06 Koshi wrote:On March 19 2014 22:04 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Palmar do you seriously think Koshi and Giggletummy should have had such a strong townread on Coag at that time? I should. Because I am smart & talented. It was obvious to me he was town. I told you why a couple times but you wouldn't listen. So pls don't tell me I didn't told you why you should have stopped the tunnel. I did so in 3 different posts. Care to explain how the green and red go together?
Well. That is awkard.
It wasn't obvious from the start and yesterday I was somewhat conflicted but with a clear head I could totally have seen him town. Somewhere I knew he was town, even though one can never be sure sure.
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On March 19 2014 22:32 raynpelikoneet wrote:Show nested quote +On March 19 2014 22:28 Koshi wrote:On March 19 2014 22:23 raynpelikoneet wrote:On March 19 2014 22:21 Koshi wrote:On March 19 2014 22:10 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Koshi show me those posts where you tell why Coag is town. Maybe i am missing something because i can't find it in your filter. It was not that Coag is town. But that you were painting him too red for something that wasn't extremely bad in my eyes. I also wanted you to look at other people and not spend all time on Coag. It wasn't doing the town atmosphere any favors. Looking back at my filter I was pretty protective about Coag from the get go but like I said, I am talented. On March 19 2014 08:28 Koshi wrote:
I need better punctuation sometimes.
Point is: Coag typed stuff to type stuff. Even though it was disruptive, it was not scummy. On March 19 2014 08:36 Koshi wrote:
Well, it is a bit over the top. But faking anger (or showing it) works as town on TL. I did it in survivor because I knew it would get the pressure off me and as town that is also important. The difference here being that it is really early in the game but still.
I am not sold on coag scum atm at all. On March 19 2014 09:17 Koshi wrote:On March 19 2014 09:13 DarthPunk wrote:On March 19 2014 09:11 Koshi wrote:
Exactly my thoughts.
I am not skimming rayn atm cuz he is rayn and I need to keep up with him cuz we will be super duper scumfinding bros but I am not anymore interested in finding out what Coag means with his posts. I am simply not going to lynch Coag. Rayn is MY super townie friend tho.... Jelly. But yeah. I don't understand how you could NOT want to lynch coag after all this nonsense. Ragin is not a good reason and he has been bullshitting continuously since the initial pressure. This is how Koshi looks at Coag Coag post seal (cool he is town) ---> Coag is superactive (cool now he is even more likely town) ---> Coag posts something lets-call-it-silly (w.e) ----> rayn goes ham (ok let's support rayn and see if Coag responds properly) ---> Caog responds quite rage likely (I am back ok with Coag) ---> 120 posts related to coag that are hard to read (fuck this shit, I am not lynching Coag) Now this is interesting considering this: On March 19 2014 22:06 Koshi wrote:On March 19 2014 22:04 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Palmar do you seriously think Koshi and Giggletummy should have had such a strong townread on Coag at that time? I should. Because I am smart & talented. It was obvious to me he was town. I told you why a couple times but you wouldn't listen. So pls don't tell me I didn't told you why you should have stopped the tunnel. I did so in 3 different posts. Care to explain how the green and red go together? Well. That is awkard. It wasn't obvious from the start and yesterday I was somewhat conflicted but with a clear head I could totally have seen him town. Somewhere I knew he was town, even though one can never be sure sure. So you are saying you did not consider him town yesterday but you still kept defending him with no real reasoning and tried to make me do something else but didn't tell me what i should do instead. Which is also pretty weird considering your stance in last games (also in this game at the start) has been "shhep marv & rayn, they totes right on D1 if town". Yes Koshi, that is really awkward and i would like to hear how you explain this.
I did tell you what you should have done otherwise. Something about interacting with all the afkers to get a lot of opinions on a lot of people in the thread.
Because this game I felt strongely about Coag and I defended him. Just like I defended Balla against marv in the previous game on D2. When I have a strong opinion on something I will share it. If I don't have one I will sheep; I felt that Coag was town, I felt that thread didn't need so much hammering on that 1 post of Coag. So I defended Coag in the thread for it. Against you.
For me this conversation is over tbh. All the answers you could possible need are given by me. If you can't read my motivation behind my posting concerning everything Coag related it is a failure on your part.
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On March 19 2014 22:39 Djodref wrote:Show nested quote +On March 19 2014 20:06 Koshi wrote:On March 19 2014 19:32 Djodref wrote:On March 19 2014 19:29 Koshi wrote:
HF DP Vivax GiggleTummy Alakaslam Djodreff
↑ People who are scummy. How is Alakaslam scummy ? And what about me also by the way ? [snip] DjodrefYou are scummy for that very mehhhhh post about rayn not reacting on VE his seal. + Show Spoiler +On March 19 2014 17:52 Djodref wrote:Show nested quote +On March 19 2014 09:50 DarthPunk wrote:On March 19 2014 09:46 Coagulation wrote:
so does that make rayn confirmed scum or confirmed bad? Rayn is pretty much town also. Do you really think rayn would fake this rage quit thing as scum? I don't. But I do think that he would care this much and be so convinced as town that he would do what he did. So yeah. Kiss and make up cuties. Although your hydra offends me and If I was a vig I would be viging you tonight no question. Sadly I don't have a gun. I'm catching up but I just wanted to mention that I think it is really an easy way to get an excuse to not contribute as scum. And if he was that much concerned about seals, regardless of his alignment, he could have mentioned it at this point (beginning of the game). VE also drew something similar and rayn didn't react at that point. My point is, you shouldn't base your assessment of rain's alignment on this. It doesn't make him look good from my point of view. 1) DP clearly uses meta on rayn to say that rayn is likely town for ragequitting like that. He says "Do you really think rayn would fake this rage quit thing as scum?". But you ignore the good meta point DP makes and adds some generic thing about how scum loves to go afk and stop contributing. HOWEVER You are talking about rayn here, the guy that just spammed up the entire thread with his push on Coag. Is that generic evasive scumplay? You do not mention this behavior at all, you do not mention what happened in the thread at all, you do not give opinions on anything. You just picked out 1 post and gave some lines that made it look like you were scumhunting. The fact is that he did nothing more than arguing with Coag until that point. I didn't play for more than a year so I have no idea of rayn meta but it looked to me that it was a very easy way to not post in the thread.2) The thing about the seals is just bad. rayn obviously ignored the first drawn seal from Coag & VE. After rayn asked me why I was defending Coag and I used the seal in Coag his defense, rayn asked Coag if it was the real seal and only after Coag posted his real seal rayn went afk. The first seals posted by Coag and VE had nothing to do with rayn going AFK and rayn didn't react on BOTH seals. And I find it strange that he ignored the first seal given his reaction to the "real" one.Conclusion: I do not know if you are lost town or lost scum. But I hope you pick up your game and start posting your ideas into this thread. Stop asking questions but just post your ideas and we will comment on what you think. Build your scumreads like that and automatically you will be seen as town.
Yes. I guess both are possible.
Try to give your bestest effort in reading people. Your bestest effort will make us not lynch you. (no promises)
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Yeah I agree. You should have found him townie otherwise you don't say that.
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Even though I feel like Hopeless is too active to be scum he is doing a great job in trying to make me draw something with his name on.
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pretty sure rayn brought things up about everybody. That's why I got him as town.
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rayn, don't you think Hopeless is too active to be scum?
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But he can be active as scum though. I just remember him to not do it unless needed (Time to die, Shadowed)
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On March 19 2014 23:36 raynpelikoneet wrote:Show nested quote +On March 19 2014 23:33 Koshi wrote:
But he can be active as scum though. I just remember him to not do it unless needed (Time to die, Shadowed) What makes you think he does not need to be active if he is mafia atm? Do you think he is not one of the top lynch candidates at the moment?
Well, Hopeless is somebody I could sheep you on. I wouldn't lynch him atm.
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On March 19 2014 23:54 raynpelikoneet wrote:
This game is going to be fucking hard because i don't have any townreads except for Holyflare and Oats.
Oats. kk rayn kk.
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On March 20 2014 00:02 raynpelikoneet wrote:
I dunno Koshi, do you think he is scum?
I think he should not be your top townread. But I read your post and Oats is back off my lynch list for today.
Are you sure that HF is town? He posted enough to actually have a good read on. But I am not good reading him because we don't play that much. Hogwarts I was off by a mile and Survivor I somewhat knew it but I didn't utter 1 word about it ever.
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On March 20 2014 00:11 Djodref wrote:Show nested quote +On March 19 2014 23:56 raynpelikoneet wrote:On March 19 2014 23:54 Djodref wrote:On March 19 2014 23:45 raynpelikoneet wrote:On March 19 2014 23:43 Djodref wrote:On March 19 2014 23:37 raynpelikoneet wrote:On March 19 2014 23:35 Djodref wrote:On March 19 2014 23:32 Holyflare wrote:
djod, in regards to rayn. Now that coag has flipped town, doesn't this make your "how does he know it's kush" point irrelevant? It seemed like you were implying they were scum together, otherwise how else would he know what head of the hydra was posting? No, I wanted to say that his meta argument was really light. Now that we know that Coag is town, there was no real way for him to know if it was kush or not so the meta argument was not acceptable imo. Where did i make a meta-argument? Here. On March 19 2014 08:08 raynpelikoneet wrote:On March 19 2014 08:06 DarthPunk wrote:
Rayn you say that he provides no insight of his own. Would you not say that calling it null is not an insight? Like it is a irrelevant conclusion but it is still a conclusion. The point is he just drops a comment that's non-alignment indicative towards every direction. There is nothing, the post achieves nothing and is designed to achieve nothing. If that's kush he is mafia. On March 19 2014 08:13 raynpelikoneet wrote:
This is from the last game. kush does this shit all the time as mafia. He posts stuff that has no intention of achieving anything when he is mafia.
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"If that's kush he is mafia" =/= "That is kush and he is mafia". Did i, in your opinion, ever push the argument as "that is kush and he is mafia". If i did, show me where, if i didn't, why are you making shit up? It looks like you wrote this posts to convince people that the hydra Coag was mafia. Did you not ? I consider this an argument based on kush meta that you used to push your lynch. On March 19 2014 08:13 raynpelikoneet wrote:This is from the last game. kush does this shit all the time as mafia. He posts stuff that has no intention of achieving anything when he is mafia. On February 20 2014 22:05 raynpelikoneet wrote:It's this post and the conversation that took place after that: On February 20 2014 12:39 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Also when exactly did you stop thinking i am mafia? Could you point out the post that made you think so. Normally i would think people stop thinking other people are mafia when they unvote the person but apparently it's impossible in this game because people are being retarded and i am being called stupid. On February 20 2014 12:43 VIVAX420 wrote:On February 20 2014 09:09 Toadesstern wrote:
Why are you actively looking for a way to pseudo-unvote? I don't even see a reason why someone should care about that. thoughts on that? On February 20 2014 12:46 raynpelikoneet wrote:On February 20 2014 12:43 VIVAX420 wrote:On February 20 2014 09:09 Toadesstern wrote:
Why are you actively looking for a way to pseudo-unvote? I don't even see a reason why someone should care about that. thoughts on that? Could you clarify the question? I don't understand what do you want. On February 20 2014 12:50 VIVAX420 wrote:
k that's a no. you have no thoughts on that. Does it look like kush really cares about his question? Because the bolded part is an answer to his question. And I don't consider this argument and the post you quoted from Coag are enough to justify the time you spend on him. Is it clear enough now ? Did you even read my case on Coag? Is there anything about kush? What the fuck are you talking about, seriously? I read your case on Coag. You had a point but it doesn't justify in my eyes that you could have him pinned as mafia like this. After that, you made some posts like "if this is kush then he is mafia" and I assume that you use them to push your lynch (did you not?). And I don't like these posts. Can we give up this pointless argument now ? I don't feel like it's going anywhere.
It's up to you to bring something fresh.
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Giggletummy,
I hope you are around to answer questions after that case. Only dropping that in the thread and fucking off will look really really really bad.
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wow a multiple point post by rayn. Shit just got real.
I will read it later when home and vote Hopeless.
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rayn, I will also tell you that Vivax is mafia because in all his towngames (Sicilian, Cultured, Titanic 1) he was superactive and always on top of the thread. His 1 scumgame (GoT) he was talking in the past and afk 24/7.
We can wait and see on him but he looks hella scum.
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