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On March 21 2014 14:19 raynpelikoneet wrote:Show nested quote +On March 21 2014 14:12 Holyflare wrote:rayn what do you think of On March 21 2014 13:22 Holyflare wrote:Just gonna requote this so dp doesn't bury it with more nonsense: On March 21 2014 04:49 Vivax wrote:
I'm still not caught up with the thread, I'm also tired today, and I don't see how I can save myself from this lynch.
I give up and I don't want to play this game anymore, I'm tired of getting called scum whenever I have a life outside of this fucking game compared to people like rayn. Get this over with and I hope it's going to make you feel extremely satisfacted to see me flipping green you bad bastards.
Hope scum wins this game, this town doesn't deserve to win. I gave you scum on a silver plate and you rejected it for some shitty reasoning. what if this is true and poofter/hopless is scum and that's why he is angry? I don't think that's a reasonable thing to assume. If DarthPunk flips town and there is another town flip during the night i will automatically assume you are the scum 50% vigilante and you took a gamble that there is no real vigilante in the game and will do everything i can to lynch you on D2. If DarthPunk flips mafia during this night i will lynch whoever you say on D2.
HAHAHA <3 Rayn. You are so fucked now holyflare.
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On March 21 2014 14:27 Holyflare wrote:
apart from when i flip town and you become fucked
I thought I was going to be dead because you are the VIG  SQUIRMMMM SCUMMER !!
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On March 20 2014 16:10 Oatsmaster wrote:Why arent we lynching Djo? He's calling people town for having a bad read. + Show Spoiler +On March 20 2014 09:49 Djodref wrote:Before really going to bed this time, I just wanted to say that I really appreciated DP latest posts and especially this one after he read my filter. Show nested quote +On March 20 2014 09:29 DarthPunk wrote:OK i just read Djo's filter and he acts super weird around his rayn 'read' On March 19 2014 17:52 Djodref wrote:On March 19 2014 09:50 DarthPunk wrote:On March 19 2014 09:46 Coagulation wrote:
so does that make rayn confirmed scum or confirmed bad? Rayn is pretty much town also. Do you really think rayn would fake this rage quit thing as scum? I don't. But I do think that he would care this much and be so convinced as town that he would do what he did. So yeah. Kiss and make up cuties. Although your hydra offends me and If I was a vig I would be viging you tonight no question. Sadly I don't have a gun. I'm catching up but I just wanted to mention that I think it is really an easy way to get an excuse to not contribute as scum. And if he was that much concerned about seals, regardless of his alignment, he could have mentioned it at this point (beginning of the game). On March 19 2014 06:18 Coagulation wrote:![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/ixwo69j.png) VE also drew something similar and rayn didn't react at that point. My point is, you shouldn't base your assessment of rain's alignment on this. It doesn't make him look good from my point of view. His first post in and he is discrediting my town read of rayn which honestly is heavily influenced by playing with rayn a lot so I kind of like this post for a couple of reasons. He is participating in a discussion of current events in the thread. He is calling someone scummy which in my experience of him he doesn't love to do as scum. On March 19 2014 22:28 Djodref wrote:On March 19 2014 19:38 Koshi wrote:On March 19 2014 19:32 Djodref wrote:On March 19 2014 19:29 Koshi wrote:
HF DP Vivax GiggleTummy Alakaslam Djodreff
↑ People who are scummy. How is Alakaslam scummy ? And what about me also by the way ? Give me your opinion on rayn in 2-3 lines pls. I don't like how rayn is pushing his lynch targets, I think he is spending more time arguing for the sake of arguing instead of presenting sound arguments which would convince us to lynch Coag/Hopeless/GT with him. The flip of Coag makes him look bad imo, given the time he spent arguing with him, and I don't understand why he didn't notice the drawn seal the first time if he was ready to AFK the game for it. I don't understand what he has against Hopeless exactly and I wouldn't mind him explaining again. The scooby doo thing looks minor to me but I honestly don't want to read a previous game. tl;dr rayn is rather scummy for me at the moment More accusations of rayn. Even though I disagree with him I like that he is accusing SOMEBODY and that he is participating. On March 19 2014 22:51 Djodref wrote:On March 19 2014 22:46 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Djodref tell me, you have no idea of my meta so does it bother you you (who have not played wwith me) call me mafia for something and the people who have played with me do not call me mafia for it? Well, I didn't call you mafia for your reaction to the seal. I wanted to let DP know that his reasoning to pin you town was bad from my point of view and that I wouldn't trust him on that. Here he is going from rayn is scummy to "actually I just didn;t want DP to give you a town read' Don't like it. Djo in my experience hates taking firm stances on whom he thinks is mafia His next post on the surface appears good and productive but it's kind of weird also at the start he makes some points about why he thinks rayn is 'suspicious' I don't necessarily agree with what he is saying but I like that he saying things and trying to scumhunt. The odd part happens after that. On March 19 2014 23:24 Djodref wrote:On March 19 2014 22:54 raynpelikoneet wrote:On March 19 2014 22:51 Djodref wrote:On March 19 2014 22:46 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Djodref tell me, you have no idea of my meta so does it bother you you (who have not played wwith me) call me mafia for something and the people who have played with me do not call me mafia for it? Well, I didn't call you mafia for your reaction to the seal. I wanted to let DP know that his reasoning to pin you town was bad from my point of view and that I wouldn't trust him on that. I don't know if it's just me but to me it looks like that's exactly why you are calling me mafia. So if you would clarify why you in fact are calling me mafia it would help me figuring out your alignment. I'm suspicious of you for several reasons. - You pinned Coag as mafia for one useless post and a point about kush's meta.
=>How could you be so sure it was kush posting ?
- You spent a lot of time arguing with Coag and clarifying some minor points, and it was messing up the thread from my point of view.
=>Why didn't you bring up new arguments ?
- You announce that you go AFK because of the seal thing, when they were already seals drawned in thread way before
=>Looked too easy for me
- I didn't understand where Hopeless was lying.
That being said, the post of Coag was indeed scummy, but it is a little not enough much for me to spend so much time and thread space about it. Also I don't think it's a good idea to lynch you today because of your activity and also because I don't feel like I could push a lynch on you. And you have good points about GT. tl;dr I don't trust you, you are potential mafia on my list, but I would rather lynch someone else today.Could you answer me why you chose to support an Hopeless lynch instead of a GT lynch ? He goes here is all the reasons I think you are scummy. But here is the reasons I don't want to lynch you today despite, up until this point only talking about you bieing scum and nothing else. He says he doesn't want to lynch rayn because he couldn't get the lynch off. Not because he has changed his read, because he still calls Rayn mafia in that same post, but then he wants to sheep rayn and both of the lynches rayn has been pushing. That makes no fucking sense at all. On March 20 2014 08:56 Djodref wrote:I have read the whole thread again and I don't think that rayn could be mafia anymore. I don't like how Oats and thrawn voted me for the lynch with little justification. I would expect thrawn to be more active to push my lynch over GT as well. I don't mind Koshi voting me that much because I believe he is town and I know I didn't do much. I'd be happy to get behind a GT lynch today for self preservation mainly. Also I wouldn't be surprised if we have at least 3 mafia members in the pool of less active players in this game. Which I'm fully aware of belonging to. I'm not mafia though  I'll try to give better input tomorrow before the lynch and also my paintings if I get behind a proper computer. I got to go to bed now though but I'll hang around a little more. See you tomorrow guys! Later he says he doesn't think rayn is scum after all. He has done nothing but call rayn scum or argue with rayn the entire game, all of a sudden rayn is not scum due to a 'reread' what could he have possibly read to completely reverse his only scum read and the only thing he has spoken about all game? He sheeps a wagon his precious number one scum read was pushing when he was his number one scum read. Basically I want to lynch one of Djo or GT today. I want poofter to answer my fucking questions. Then I will be a happy panda. It shows he is really trying to figure the game right now and I think it's a rather fair assessment of my filter. His read on me is total shit. His explanation is not at all how it happened and I did the exact same thing as koshi did so why he calling me scum for it? Like this post, he implies that I look town until me and thrawn vote Show nested quote +And to answer to thrawn, I need to see more from Oats to read him properly, he looked quite townish until he decided to put down his vote on me and went to bed.
As for you thrawn, I was worried about your activity level until you started to post more tonight. I have you more on the townie side with your latest posts. But this is as well downgraded by the fact that you have your vote on me Which makes me think he is calling me scum for trying to lynch town but thats clearly not the case. The later explanations of our votes being not so clear is totally bullshit and backtracking. The most convincing thing for me is that he accepts DP's analyzation of his filter which was that he was scum and even calls DP townier because of that. Dp, tehpoofter is reasonably answering your inquires man, get off his back for today at least. Giggle or Djo?
Here. I had a townish read on oats and thought that maybe it would be a good idea to back of on oats' advice.
We talked about the GT and Djo for a bit and I decided to lynch GT over Djo.
Then the vivax thing happened and it seems fairly obvious to me that Vivax was pushing a mislynch on Tehpoofter so he is probably town.
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On March 21 2014 14:59 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Okay i am back to "lynch Hopeless on D2" train because of my shit pre-flip connection case and Vivax asking shit from him and neither of Hopeless/Vivax caring about answering/answers.
NO. We are lynching holyflare tomorrow.
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On March 21 2014 15:05 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Just because Hopeless fits into any scumteam possible, hasn't done anything productive all game, and nobody wants to lynch him.
Same shit as purpletrator in Titanic II.
You know what;s funny actually. Purpletrator was hopeless' smurf in that game. HAHA. Still don't think he is scum though. If holyflare is scum he is def not scum.
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Or maybe you knew that which is why you made the comparison
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On March 21 2014 15:08 raynpelikoneet wrote:
But Holyflare is a bussmachine so it doesn't matter.
Hoylflare MAY bus. (noone ALWAYS busses) but that does not mean he didn't defend Vivax nor does it mean that hopeless was bussing holy if holy is mafia.
Don't be close minded to the idea of Holy scum Hopeless town.
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On March 21 2014 15:11 Holyflare wrote:
no dp i never defend my team mates, EVER i have never done it in any game, i am quite happy to throw them under the bus
I don't believe you would never do it. And that being your established meta is the exact reason you WOULD do it.
So yeah. that means nothing to me. Also why do you keep trying to defend yourself against me if you are vig? rofl.
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On March 21 2014 15:13 Holyflare wrote:
where are you trying to solve the game? I am actually doing something
I caught another scum bro. what have you done except tunnel me and hopeless?
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Oh and defend your scum buddy. you did that too LMAO.
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On March 21 2014 21:18 Koshi wrote:
List time:
Town hero tier
Palmar
rayn
kosher
leaning town tier
Oats
Giggletummy
poof
Holyflare
Insane tier
Slam
leaning scum tier
VE
Hopeless
Scum tier
Darthpunk
thrawn
Djodref
How the fuck am I scum? I just LYNCHED scum.
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On March 21 2014 21:27 Koshi wrote:Show nested quote +On March 21 2014 21:26 DarthPunk wrote:On March 21 2014 21:18 Koshi wrote:
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Palmar
rayn
kosher
leaning town tier
Oats
Giggletummy
poof
Holyflare
Insane tier
Slam
leaning scum tier
VE
Hopeless
Scum tier
Darthpunk
thrawn
Djodref How the fuck am I scum? I just LYNCHED scum. You just sheeped rayn 100%. You didn't add anything to the Vivax lynch except your vote.
Yeah. Which was at the start and helped get the wagon moving. I'm sorry but calling me scum is ridiculous.
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On March 21 2014 21:30 Koshi wrote:Show nested quote +On March 21 2014 21:28 DarthPunk wrote:On March 21 2014 21:27 Koshi wrote:On March 21 2014 21:26 DarthPunk wrote:On March 21 2014 21:18 Koshi wrote:
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Town hero tier
Palmar
rayn
kosher
leaning town tier
Oats
Giggletummy
poof
Holyflare
Insane tier
Slam
leaning scum tier
VE
Hopeless
Scum tier
Darthpunk
thrawn
Djodref How the fuck am I scum? I just LYNCHED scum. You just sheeped rayn 100%. You didn't add anything to the Vivax lynch except your vote. Yeah. Which was at the start and helped get the wagon moving. I'm sorry but calling me scum is ridiculous. You knew it was comming, shouldn't be so surprised. Anyway, my question: Really early in the game you agreed with rayn I was town. Why?
Why would I have 'known' it was coming. How about you answer my questions first. Then I will answer your questions.
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I'm actually jack shit of morons calling me scum for no fucking reason.
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On March 21 2014 21:42 Koshi wrote:Show nested quote +On March 21 2014 21:31 DarthPunk wrote:On March 21 2014 21:30 Koshi wrote:On March 21 2014 21:28 DarthPunk wrote:On March 21 2014 21:27 Koshi wrote:On March 21 2014 21:26 DarthPunk wrote:On March 21 2014 21:18 Koshi wrote:
List time:
Town hero tier
Palmar
rayn
kosher
leaning town tier
Oats
Giggletummy
poof
Holyflare
Insane tier
Slam
leaning scum tier
VE
Hopeless
Scum tier
Darthpunk
thrawn
Djodref How the fuck am I scum? I just LYNCHED scum. You just sheeped rayn 100%. You didn't add anything to the Vivax lynch except your vote. Yeah. Which was at the start and helped get the wagon moving. I'm sorry but calling me scum is ridiculous. You knew it was comming, shouldn't be so surprised. Anyway, my question: Really early in the game you agreed with rayn I was town. Why? Why would I have 'known' it was coming. How about you answer my questions first. Then I will answer your questions. You didn't have many questions after all. It was about why your unvote was "too quick". I believe that you are a good player, so to me it is strange you don't have a stronger feeling on your scumread GT. Even if Vivax lied about the alount of pages he read, that shouldn't remove your strong read on GT. Or at least your vote on GT shouldn't need to be so quickly "removed" because even if Vivax is scum, you are on your own scumread that is also scum. I also have this theory that the transition from GT to Vivax was so easy because GT is town. While Vivax was being lynched for a slip, nobody gave 1 reason to why GT was scum, it's strange to me. Everybody just unvoted and went for Vivax. I was somewhat disappointed btw, like really early in the game (12h in) I was already planning to lynch Vivax and be a town Hero. Totally irrelevant story. But I thought I share this. _____ The reason to why I find you scummy DP is that I am generally pretty good to cozy up with a good townplayer. This game I was already pretty annoyed by the fact rayn/Palmar/you were going after Coag for the most retarded thing and after the first post by Vivax I was totes sad. There was nobody to look up to this game. But after time rayn and Palmar proved themselves town. I just feel they are town due to previous games played together. They feel town to me. They do towny things that remind me to the same towny things they did in previous games. But you don't. You don't do towny things. You don't do special things. Maybe we haven't played enough together, maybe you are having a bad game. Maybe my bad reads this game are overlapping your good reads and we can't be friends because of that. I don't know. But I don't like you. The good news is that I won't push your lynch till D3.
AS for the unvote. I was literally voting for GT because of his afk behaviour. Like that is the reasoning I gave and that was the reason I wanted to lynch him. Like, I could have been easily wrong and obviously now I believe I am due to being convinced that holy is scum.
Like I don't get it though. You are saying I was sitting on a mislynch as scum and then at the first opportunity jumped the fuck off because yolo?
That doesn't seem very bright for me to do as scum does it?
As for you not 'feeling' me to be town. When have we played together? there isn't much to say about a 'feel' read so it follows that there is not much value in it.
All I can say is that in Titanic II I made an effort to be 'nice' but I am often a massive dick as town and that is well known about me.
And I think we have only played together twice. Once I was killed night zero, the other I rage quit.
Now onto YOUR question
I can't say exactly why I thought you were town. You were saying some townie shit there were a few posts where I was like: OK this guy is town.
Off the top of my head:
The buddying with rayn felt genuine and townie, more specifically I seem to recall you expressing a desire for rayn's alignment to become clear so you could be super townie friends.
That seemed particularly townie.
You were the most rational around coag and wanted to move the discourse in a more positive direction.
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On March 21 2014 21:47 Djodref wrote:@OatsI would like to know what your motivation was to ask this question to DP. Show nested quote +On March 19 2014 19:16 Oatsmaster wrote:
aw DP.
Talk to me. Do you think Djodref or Vivax is scum?
I can answer that I think. I read that as a prod towards me, saying: 'Hey DP I think you are town, I am town, Let's find some scum"
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On March 21 2014 22:00 Koshi wrote:Show nested quote +On March 21 2014 21:52 DarthPunk wrote:On March 21 2014 21:42 Koshi wrote:On March 21 2014 21:31 DarthPunk wrote:On March 21 2014 21:30 Koshi wrote:On March 21 2014 21:28 DarthPunk wrote:On March 21 2014 21:27 Koshi wrote:On March 21 2014 21:26 DarthPunk wrote:On March 21 2014 21:18 Koshi wrote:
List time:
Town hero tier
Palmar
rayn
kosher
leaning town tier
Oats
Giggletummy
poof
Holyflare
Insane tier
Slam
leaning scum tier
VE
Hopeless
Scum tier
Darthpunk
thrawn
Djodref How the fuck am I scum? I just LYNCHED scum. You just sheeped rayn 100%. You didn't add anything to the Vivax lynch except your vote. Yeah. Which was at the start and helped get the wagon moving. I'm sorry but calling me scum is ridiculous. You knew it was comming, shouldn't be so surprised. Anyway, my question: Really early in the game you agreed with rayn I was town. Why? Why would I have 'known' it was coming. How about you answer my questions first. Then I will answer your questions. You didn't have many questions after all. It was about why your unvote was "too quick". I believe that you are a good player, so to me it is strange you don't have a stronger feeling on your scumread GT. Even if Vivax lied about the alount of pages he read, that shouldn't remove your strong read on GT. Or at least your vote on GT shouldn't need to be so quickly "removed" because even if Vivax is scum, you are on your own scumread that is also scum. I also have this theory that the transition from GT to Vivax was so easy because GT is town. While Vivax was being lynched for a slip, nobody gave 1 reason to why GT was scum, it's strange to me. Everybody just unvoted and went for Vivax. I was somewhat disappointed btw, like really early in the game (12h in) I was already planning to lynch Vivax and be a town Hero. Totally irrelevant story. But I thought I share this. _____ The reason to why I find you scummy DP is that I am generally pretty good to cozy up with a good townplayer. This game I was already pretty annoyed by the fact rayn/Palmar/you were going after Coag for the most retarded thing and after the first post by Vivax I was totes sad. There was nobody to look up to this game. But after time rayn and Palmar proved themselves town. I just feel they are town due to previous games played together. They feel town to me. They do towny things that remind me to the same towny things they did in previous games. But you don't. You don't do towny things. You don't do special things. Maybe we haven't played enough together, maybe you are having a bad game. Maybe my bad reads this game are overlapping your good reads and we can't be friends because of that. I don't know. But I don't like you. The good news is that I won't push your lynch till D3. I can't say exactly why I thought you were town. You were saying some townie shit there were a few posts where I was like: OK this guy is town. Off the top of my head: The buddying with rayn felt genuine and townie, more specifically I seem to recall you expressing a desire for rayn's alignment to become clear so you could be super townie friends. That seemed particularly townie. You were the most rational around coag and wanted to move the discourse in a more positive direction. The problem is DP. That I didn't say anything to rayn at that point. And I just called you scum. Coag thing didn't happen yet.
You must have said something I found townie. Honestly I can't remember 120 pages of game has happened. I can go look if you would like.
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Oh yeah. That is easy. No that post wasn't it. It was more the free flowing, carefree way in which you posted at the start of the game.
On March 19 2014 05:54 Koshi wrote:
____________________Towniest town that towned in town who all scum fear filter starts here_____________________
On March 19 2014 07:52 Koshi wrote:
ahh easy towngame for me coming up.
To my fellow towners, be happy everytime I post and you see my townyness shine through, 4 times already I had a 3 win streal before I lost a game, history will repeat itself and this game shall be a town victory.
On March 19 2014 07:32 Koshi wrote:
But you got to know DP, it's not that I don't like you. It's that I like Holyflare.
On March 19 2014 08:04 Koshi wrote:rayn mostly pretty spot on early game. So, just play along = thx.
On March 19 2014 08:07 Koshi wrote:Show nested quote +On March 19 2014 08:04 Koshi wrote:On March 19 2014 08:01 Coagulation wrote:
rayn ur bad and should feel bad rayn mostly pretty spot on early game. So, just play along = thx. when I said play along I meant cooperate.
So yeah it was like an early game read that proved true later with all the other stuff I mentioned.
The thing is koshi. I can disagree with someones posts and reads and still think they are playing in a manner which is townie to me.
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On March 21 2014 22:31 Hopeless1der wrote:Show nested quote +On March 21 2014 15:06 DarthPunk wrote:On March 21 2014 15:05 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Just because Hopeless fits into any scumteam possible, hasn't done anything productive all game, and nobody wants to lynch him.
Same shit as purpletrator in Titanic II. You know what;s funny actually. Purpletrator was hopeless' smurf in that game. HAHA. Still don't think he is scum though. If holyflare is scum he is def not scum. well this is awkward...i never actually revealed that to anyone except you. Hell Sentinel may not have "known" though he may have had GM or someone check me. owelp. Rayn I plomise I'm not scum.
Sorry. My bad.
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On March 21 2014 22:38 Hopeless1der wrote:
such typo...im going to get coffee
HAHA
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