EPTRisen dont be a dick man, thats not nice.
Yamato, Im not saying he is confirmed town town, what I am saying is that anyone wanting to lynch him from what he did so far is scummy. Not that anyone did. But just saying.
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Oatsmaster
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Risen dont be a dick man, thats not nice. Yamato, Im not saying he is confirmed town town, what I am saying is that anyone wanting to lynch him from what he did so far is scummy. Not that anyone did. But just saying. | ||
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Oatsmaster
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On February 09 2014 16:14 VayneAuthority wrote: pretty much I will agree on any policy involving lynching the less desirable players even if it includes myself after giving it some thought. There is no reason for mafia to not nominate all the more townie looking people and make town pick off the better players. So it is really in our best interests to weed out those not participating as much (I realize that is me right now, but day 1 I am never that active) What? So you rather we lynch lousy town than scum on the day we actually get to choose? | ||
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VayneAuthority
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On February 09 2014 16:18 Oatsmaster wrote: What? So you rather we lynch lousy town than scum on the day we actually get to choose? nah lousy scum. it works for this playerlist since there is very few people that lurk here. | ||
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Grackaroni
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On February 09 2014 16:19 VayneAuthority wrote: nah lousy scum. it works for this playerlist since there is very few people that lurk here. Please write a list of all players in this game that you view as less desirable so that I can see if this strategy is optimal for my scum team. | ||
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Oatsmaster
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On February 09 2014 16:19 VayneAuthority wrote: nah lousy scum. it works for this playerlist since there is very few people that lurk here. Whats the difference between doing this and what we are currently doing? | ||
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WaveofShadow
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On February 09 2014 16:09 VisceraEyes wrote: What the fuck is this Wave? I'm playing LoL what do you want? Really? On February 09 2014 07:48 VisceraEyes wrote: Meh, I'm okay with geript for now. *shrug* Wave if you want to elaborate on your feels a little bit I might be down with lynching Koshi. On February 09 2014 09:03 WaveofShadow wrote: It's not really bad at all. I am inherently untrustworthy of buddying, whether with me or anyone else. I often buddy to some degree with VE in games and even then I second-guess myself constantly as to motivations. I would think especially after coming off of two strong wins scum would want to buddy with a town-marv, and if you're scum then it doesn't really say a lot I don't think. Buddying in general however brings me to Koshi. His best buddy of all time is in this game, and yet Koshi has made no attempt to do his usual insane (and no offense) annoying buddying with Rayn. Up until only recently when I voted for him, Koshi has not commanded the attention and the usual joyfulness at rolling town that he does---only now have I seen a semblance of the carefree attitude he normally has. Before this he has been avoiding answering questions, being purposefully lazy and unhelpful. I hosted SMB mafia with Dandel recently and Grack came up with this read on scum Koshi that was spot on D1. Yes, a lot of it based on meta and feels, but they're strong feels. On February 09 2014 09:09 WaveofShadow wrote: Not particularly. VE, I believe you were also asking for rationale on Koshi. Thoughts? Oh...I think I missed this one. On February 09 2014 06:25 VisceraEyes wrote: Wave I'll tell you the same thing I told Cora - he wasn't "on the hook" in the first place. People are considering him for lynch now, but for reasons I think are not so much alignment indicative and I'm not convinced he's a good lynch. I don't know what's supposed to be unacceptable - I told him I thought that what Slam did was null after he asked. That was pretty much the end of it yeah? Like, I never thought he thought it was scummy of Alak in the first place (which is explicit in MY post on the matter) so I don't feel like he's suspiciously dropping it or whatever. I would have found it more suspicious if he had tried to make a case on Alak based on what he's posted so far. ##Unvote Fine at least look at what I wrote about Koshi above, I thought you never responded to my questioning about Cora either. | ||
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Oatsmaster
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WaveofShadow
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On February 09 2014 16:36 Oatsmaster wrote: Wave what was the point of all that? VE didnt even say anything. On February 09 2014 16:09 VisceraEyes wrote: What the fuck is this Wave? I'm playing LoL what do you want? You're a good reader Oats. Almost as good as me. | ||
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Oatsmaster
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Im so confused. But that was super scummy. | ||
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VisceraEyes
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##Unvote ##Vote: Koshi I'm with you on this one. His response to you calling him suspicious was super bad too - like, it's not even like he was interested in why you found him suspicious, he just used you as a means to not do anything by saying "Welp you must be scum then" | ||
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WaveofShadow
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On February 09 2014 16:55 VisceraEyes wrote: Yeah I agree with that what you say about Koshi. His play lacks...I don't know what else to call it but direction. Like, take Oats for example. That last post by Oats, while succinct, explains Oats thoughts about someone. And while he's not in here writing paragraphs, that's the kind of post I'd expect from a town aligned Oats. I expect similar almost effortless forays into the thread from a town-aligned Koshi that I'm not seeing here. ##Unvote ##Vote: Koshi I'm with you on this one. His response to you calling him suspicious was super bad too - like, it's not even like he was interested in why you found him suspicious, he just used you as a means to not do anything by saying "Welp you must be scum then" + Show Spoiler + ![[image loading]](http://images.wikia.com/uncyclopedia/images/archive/b/b5/20120914120348!Exploding-head.gif) Did you.... read the thread occurrences since that post of mine? I'm not so sure I even believe it myself anymore. Marv shot it down pretty quickly and Koshi's responses were...decent? I'm still not a fan of his play though and something marv said kinda clicked with me thinking about it now On February 09 2014 08:57 marvellosity wrote: Naw, you have to fight your own battles. We both know that lazy Koshi can just be a cover from scumKoshi. And while I agree about VA it feels kinda thin. Which isn't your fault but I don't really want to vote him for just that atm. And it does feel like marv fought his battle for him even though Koshi eventually responded to my questions. I just can't shake the feeling that he only did so because marv wasn't ready to flat out tell me to back off, and his play around then precisely describes what I feel like I should have seen in a town Koshi from the start. And then another issue is what are your thoughts on VA? His posting around then and recently as well? I had the same sort of idea about VA being scummy as both marv and Koshi---the only thing I can think of is some sort of convoluted bus thing but I refuse to entertain that right now (even as it sits gnawing away at my skull). | ||
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VisceraEyes
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WaveofShadow
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I have super conflicting reads on VA now, especially since him and Koshi are intertwined. VA started out tryhardy-serious = scum VA Now is being kinda useless-but-not-trolly = ?? VA Martyring = town Ugh. VE before I mentioned Koshi to you is there anyone you were looking at? | ||
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Oatsmaster
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VisceraEyes
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I just don't understand how a townie gets from A to B you know? | ||
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WaveofShadow
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On February 08 2014 11:10 VayneAuthority wrote: if im reading this correctly, the first thing that sticks out to me is that mafia only gets one kill chosen solely by them, so I would keep a close eye on who they decide to kill. can't really waste that on WIFOM is a town is dominating. WTF is he trying to say with this? Does this constitute an important thought? On February 08 2014 11:25 VayneAuthority wrote: I'd say the mafia team would not bother chatting with eachother this early, if they have even showed up at all. Can probably put mutually exclusive brackets on geript(wave,yamato) Terrible association reads---I can honestly think of zero reason why this would be true, and I think this was pointed out at the time as well by someone else. On February 09 2014 08:21 VayneAuthority wrote: I agree, but I townread the slot he is filling so I am unsure On February 09 2014 09:13 VayneAuthority wrote: typically a lot of people like to do that as scum including myself, it's easy to just go through and quote stuff and say it is bad. pretty much the easiest cases to make as scum. He did it in our last game on mig and such in w/e that game was This was about my read on Koshi. I actually forgot about this. On February 09 2014 17:27 Oatsmaster wrote: what do you think of his idea Wave? On February 09 2014 16:14 VayneAuthority wrote: pretty much I will agree on any policy involving lynching the less desirable players even if it includes myself after giving it some thought. There is no reason for mafia to not nominate all the more townie looking people and make town pick off the better players. So it is really in our best interests to weed out those not participating as much (I realize that is me right now, but day 1 I am never that active) IS this an idea? It's pitiful if so---like I often don't follow strategy talk particularly well and have to have stuff explained to me but all this looks like to me is a simple policy lynch and has no real bearing on setup. Obviously when you policy lynch it's going to be into the pool of 'less desirable players' (ie lurkers and whatnot) but that's the same thing in ANY game. Is the point to avoid lynching into players who are likely to be put up for nomination? Because I would think that fairly obvious considering it's probably likely the scum will put up strong players to be removed who we wouldn't want to be lynching anyway. On February 09 2014 17:28 VisceraEyes wrote: Well looking at his filter, he seems to like...want you to think he is scumhunting right? But then comes in later and sayshe wants to policy lynch lurkers? Like he was talking about PoEing the scum or whatever, has he abandoned that approach entirely because scum aren't likely to nominate lurkers? I just don't understand how a townie gets from A to B you know? DOES he want us to think that? Doesn't honestly look like it considering he's barely commented on anything but setup all game. Here's my problem. Overall, useless VA is more likely to be town which really hurts me to say. And he's supporting the idea of a Koshi lynch, which I have now apparently garnered support for (though he didn't actually vote...?) Again this either all some weird distancing tactic or VA is simply being his useless town self and sheeping along effortlessly. Thoughts? I'll look at your comment on yamato in a sec VE, then I gotta go to bed. | ||
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