EPTNormal Mini Mafia: Episode I - Page 28
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kushm4sta
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kushm4sta
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raynpelikoneet
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On January 21 2014 11:31 kushm4sta wrote: nah i have looked. it's just after the scumslip i was like lolol this guys so scum and I didn't read as close after that hahahaha | ||
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raynpelikoneet
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thrawn2112
United States6918 Posts
rayn is that a "haha kush is town" sort of laugh? or what | ||
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thrawn2112
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On January 21 2014 11:33 kushm4sta wrote: dw more is coming about other people, probably tonight that will be helpful. but nothing could possibly be more helpful than you trying to convince me about bum | ||
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raynpelikoneet
Finland43270 Posts
+ Show Spoiler + On September 25 2013 08:11 kushm4sta wrote: it doesnt' say read ALL the thread. i did read the thread. parts of it. On September 25 2013 08:13 kushm4sta wrote: i didn't even have the time or patience to read that paragraph  | ||
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raynpelikoneet
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kushm4sta
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a lot of not alignment indicative comments. A shitty case on ve. and a scumslip. | ||
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VisceraEyes
United States21171 Posts
Now here's the thing. IF kush is scum then bum is almost CERTAINLY scum. Kush is a busser. I know because at my core I'm a busser too and I can smell them. Kush busses his team like every single time he's scum. | ||
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kushm4sta
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suki
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Surely if kush and bum were both scum, and kush was bussing bum, kush could find much better reasons to bus him than some super WIFOM-y semantics scum slip. | ||
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bumatlarge
United States4567 Posts
+ Show Spoiler + On January 21 2014 04:25 VisceraEyes wrote: 1) I'm not "blindly agreeing" with bad analysis, if you think the analysis is bad then that's cool whatever, but I don't think it's bad, I agree with it. I mean, just because you think it's bad doesn't make it bad. So this point is, as bum said, very null. Where do you get off that this is a good rebuttal. This is the fluffiest thing I have ever read. This is such a poor over-reaction, when I was merely expecting an explanation to your affirmation of Rayn's post on me. You gave me NOTHING. 2) This doesn't make me scum or town either. Rayn made a post about bum, one I agreed with, and kush was receiving some flak from rayn for not doing anything so I asked him to comment on the post about bum. Because bum hadn't been back to comment on the case there wasn't much to add as far as Bum is concerned, so I'm not sure what he's expecting here. This point also doesn't make me scum. I'm further pushing an explanation that you still have not given. I actually don't care why you asked someone elses opinion, I wanted yours! I want to not have this be my issue but your obsession with beating around it is baffling. 3) More nullery to justify bum's scumread of me. I was discussing the plans OTHERS brought forth. If the ideas were so "asinine" then why not bring it up with the people who brought up the plans? Why is my commenting on them worthy of your lynch? Because it appears intentionally distracting, when your vote is on me! You can understan that your blathering bothers me when you are voting me for what someone else said. You haven't commented on that, and you haven't commente on my defense. It's either lazy or anti-town, and you nee to STOP IT. I consider the matter closed. Unless Bum has some actual reasons to think I'm scum, I strongly urge you guys to vote for this guy. Nope and nope. Not when there is no explanation. In our, "Bum the Scum" gallery, we see the OMGUS blossom into full blown tunneling. On January 21 2014 04:37 VisceraEyes wrote: Elaborate on your issue with me plz Artanis. Why is my vote on Bum bad? Bum isn't reading the thread, while accusing others of "skimming". He agreed with suki's analysis calling me scum for having "inconsistent views on Kush's plan" when in the posts in question I was actually referring to TWO different plans...and then calls me scum for "blindly agreeing with bad logic". This is pretty cut and dry Artanis. Bum is scum. You should be voting for him. Not making aimless jabs at me. I admitted that your quotes were misconstrued by suki, but I didn't use any of that when I analyzed you here. + Show Spoiler + On January 21 2014 01:47 bumatlarge wrote: In this chapter, we will be looking at both Raynpelikoneet and VisceraEyes. A Bum Emersion Fanfic[/red On January 20 2014 22:42 raynpelikoneet wrote: So here are bumatlarge's posts: green: believes claim red: says claim is fake which is it? This is a question that has been answered twice in the thread already. Useless "contribution" or not even reading the thread. Scum hunting is not strong with that one. The first part is entirely false and that's all he's talking about. Again implying the claim is true, and now he is not really suspicious of VE in the end. TLDR; Here's what bum's posts say this far - Does believe the claim but does not believe the claim - Says VE is scummy but VE is not necessarily scummy - Asks a question that's been answered 2 times already. ##Vote: bumatlarge Rayn, next time you grow the balls to analyze me, do me the common courtesy of reading it before you post so I don't have to waste time answering it. From now on if you have a post that you took 3 seconds to scrounge together an you want me to chime in/repspond to it, I'm not going to if I don't think you are trying. 1 - Completely misread 2 - Completely misconstrued 3 - Who cares? Oh look the exact same amount of effort! On January 20 2014 22:55 raynpelikoneet wrote: Oops okay, i misread the red colored part so ignore that. However it does not really matter as that's not really any sort of contribution as it says nothing useful. VE, scum don't need to claim anything at all at this point of the game. Why do you think that's the case? kush why am i town? Oh, I'm completely wrong. but I'll take "minimal blame an keep my vote where it is" for 400 Alex. On January 20 2014 23:26 raynpelikoneet wrote: You have literally disagreed with every single thing VE has said in this game, how is it possible for you to have a town read on him? WHAT KIND OF AWFUL ANTAGONIZING STATEMENT IS THAT? Only you would come to a conclusion like that. Either Rayn has no interest in winning or applying himself, yet insists to post whatever pops into his hea into the thread, or he's mafia. You'd think I'd vote for him, BUT THERE IS ACTUALLY SOMEONE EVEN WORSE. VisceraEyes ladies and gentlemen! On January 20 2014 22:51 suki wrote: I think Rayn is stretching a bit with his conclusions but that he's pointed out Bum's general attitude this far: Bum is sitting on the fence in general, and he's not contributing to scum hunting. Bum, who do you find scummy and why? Rayn's inane posting visibly having its effect on people. I'm allowed to be somewhat reserved in the first hour I enter the threa suki. And even then, if you read my posts, I am clearly not on the fence. The only thing holing me back from lynching VE is that I know he can be silly sometimes, but even afterwards, it perpetuates in all his posts even after the fact. On January 20 2014 22:44 VisceraEyes wrote: Yeah that all looks really bad. I'm assuming this is referencing rayn's post. I have to restrain myself from calling this the worst post, because I've witnessed townies doing this. Rayn makes a post about me. All of it is wrong. VE in the most generic and assuming way possible, agrees with it. Again, I've seen a townie do this, and I want to be sure about this. I mean, VE might have just skimmed it an be reconsidering agreeing- On January 20 2014 23:04 VisceraEyes wrote: What do you think of bum kush? I liked rayns post on the matter, and agree he looks bad. What do you think? On January 20 2014 23:09 VisceraEyes wrote: I think the timing is such that it is more likely to be a scum fakeclaim than town, but I'm not 100% sold on it. The more we talk about it, the more I can see a townie just not caring what he said earlier, and I guess it's less likely that scum would do something completely against what they previously went on record saying. I can give Slam more time I guess. ##Unvote ##Vote bumatlarge Alright, I can't ignore this blatant display of anti-town. 1. Blinly agrees with bad analysis. Maybe that's subjective, and I'm biased because it is against me. I'd make this point null. 2. Fails to support his own view, AND PROCEEDS TO ASK SOMEONE ELSES OPINION ON THAT. Looks like he wants to talk about it, but has no interest in actually doing that. Why not ask someone else to do it for you while doing nothing yourself? I don't even think VE planned it out that way, it was just instinct. 3. This asinine persistence to post about VT claims that have nothing to do with day 1. WHO CARES WHOS CLAIMING IT. It one of the most dead-end conversations I have ever seen. And it's WIFOM. Anyone can say it with 0 detriment, and I would have no opinion on it as of right now. PSA: BUM IS A CLAIMED VT. THAT IS ALL, CONTINUE SKIMMING THIS BECAUSE I KNOW YOU AREN'T ACTUALLY READING THIS POST. YOU DUMB BASTARDS ##Vote VisceraEyes So you can't say my analysis doesn't hold water because I misread someone else's misconstrued analysis of you, because I never referenced it. On January 21 2014 04:41 VisceraEyes wrote: rayn what are YOUR updated thoughts on Bum? You accuse him of being wishywashy, which I agree with. I think that the wishy-washiness combined with the terrible cases on you and me makes him scum. On January 21 2014 04:56 VisceraEyes wrote: So? Neither of those "easy route" things make me scum or even scummy. Who cares if they're "easy"? Does that make the points I raise any less valid? And what if Bum is scum Artanis? Just because bum attacked me first, am I supposed to go after someone else just because bum is "too easy" now? Or Wile, just because rayn attacked him first, am I supposed to find a different target just because Wile is "too easy" now? Even if he's scum? These points don't make any sense. On January 21 2014 05:17 VisceraEyes wrote: Artanis look at it this way: bumatlarge should know better. I'm getting a lot of flak because of others' expectations of me, and that's fine I guess, but why are people not holding bumatlarge up to the same standard of play? Or higher? Bumatlarge is one of seven(?) players to have played a game on this site for the last SEVEN YEARS. And the cases on me and rayn are what all this experience has yielded? I know that he's completely wrong about at least half of his reads, and the reasoning he gave for having that particular read is fucking TERRIBLE. Do the math guys. This is such a hard tunnel when you haven't presented your case properly. And you start clogging the thread up with nonsense when artanis points this out. You go so far as to attack my mafia experience when I'm trying to generate a better read of you on day one. DAY ONE. You have some nerve if you aren't mafia. On January 21 2014 06:46 raynpelikoneet wrote: In fact it's bumatlarge who is OMGUSing here if you wanna talk about OMGUS. Oh and fails to contribute nothing else also. Random rayn post, lol wtf rayn? Ok, VE. I want as minimal a chance of you really screwing the pooch because I have no interest lynching you if you are just being exceptionally awkward as town. 1) Can you elaborate on what you agreed on with rayn about me. I have asked you multiple times and instead of answering, you threw an OMGUS tantrum, that I can't fathom why you would. ITS NOT EVEN HARD TO ANSWER IF YOU ARE SCUM, which assures me that you are just refusing to do it for whatever misaligned reason. Here is rayns post again. On January 20 2014 22:42 raynpelikoneet wrote: So here are bumatlarge's posts: green: believes claim red: says claim is fake which is it? This is a question that has been answered twice in the thread already. Useless "contribution" or not even reading the thread. Scum hunting is not strong with that one. The first part is entirely false and that's all he's talking about. Again implying the claim is true, and now he is not really suspicious of VE in the end. TLDR; Here's what bum's posts say this far - Does believe the claim but does not believe the claim - Says VE is scummy but VE is not necessarily scummy - Asks a question that's been answered 2 times already. ##Vote: bumatlarge 2) Why am I scum? I'm not being malicious in anyway here. I just want to hear what is so mind-blowingly scummy that you would threaten to policy lynch artanis for calling me the towniest player. Please give me something beyond that I called you scum, and I wouldn't do that as town, because then I would magically start seeing you as a townie. And that's all. Your last twenty posts about me I will just let slide because I have no desire to keep having this argument. Honestly, even if you are mafia, I'd rather keep you around and get a better read on you to be sure, but the nature of your posts do not let me do that! | ||
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thrawn2112
United States6918 Posts
Kush doesn't have thoughts about the game. He's not scumhunting. He doesn't appear suspicious of the rest of other players. He started out by giving town reads with no justifications. He can't justify his scumread beyond repeating "scumslip" over and over. Every response he's made to me has been some shitty excuse for why he doesn't actually need to read his top scumread's filter and have a conversation with me about it. He can't scumhunt! He is mafia. | ||
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bumatlarge
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On January 21 2014 07:00 kushm4sta wrote: Tell me if you think it's a scumslip. I think it might be but I have to think about it more. how can scum be "wrong" about someone? Oh look, the thread analyzed how I worded something for the past 5 pages. In fact, I'm out of words. I honestly don't know what to say. | ||
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kushm4sta
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On January 21 2014 11:51 bumatlarge wrote: Oh look, the thread analyzed how I worded something for the past 5 pages. In fact, I'm out of words. I honestly don't know what to say. are you afraid you are going to scumslip again? | ||
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raynpelikoneet
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Funny how there is a question to me in the WOT.  | ||
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thrawn2112
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he has a weak town read on bum.... reads the "scumslip" and then he thinkgs "bum is so scummy because of this scumslip that it's going to be the only thing i tell the thread to convince them to lynch my scum read. i am super confident etc etc etc" so if kush is town then at this point he'd be confirmation biased, bum's alignment notwithstanding. so how can a confirmation biased townie say the bolded? On January 21 2014 11:40 kushm4sta wrote: bum doens't have that much content! i mean there really isn't that much you can say thrawn. a lot of not alignment indicative comments. A shitty case on ve. and a scumslip. how can a confirmation biased townie only be able to come up with one point against his scumread, especially it with it being a point as debatable as the scumslip? | ||
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bumatlarge
United States4567 Posts
On January 21 2014 11:52 kushm4sta wrote: are you afraid you are going to scumslip again? I'd say you are wrong, but only mafia can know whats wrong and whats right. | ||
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kushm4sta
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On January 21 2014 11:47 thrawn2112 wrote: I'm not sure how else to say this: Kush doesn't have thoughts about the game. He's not scumhunting. He doesn't appear suspicious of the rest of other players. He started out by giving town reads with no justifications. He can't justify his scumread beyond repeating "scumslip" over and over. Every response he's made to me has been some shitty excuse for why he doesn't actually need to read his top scumread's filter and have a conversation with me about it. He can't scumhunt! He is mafia. yeah i totally see where you are coming from with this read thrawn. But im not scum I promise. I did his all his filter though. it's just like i stopped reading it real close after the scumslip. | ||
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