EPTIts like hopeless is kinda hostile towards me then he suddenly wants to lynch skanjab.
Super weird.
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Oatsmaster
United States16627 Posts
Its like hopeless is kinda hostile towards me then he suddenly wants to lynch skanjab. Super weird. | ||
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Skanjab1s
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On January 26 2014 02:47 VayneAuthority wrote: first interaction between them, complete joking and doesn't take it seriously at all, because he doesn't need to. It is scum on scum and he even warns him on how to play in his last sentence, protecting him from doing something scummy. This is hilarious, because almost everyone answered those questions jokingly. Also even if they didn't, this point is completely illogical. Townies joke. Scum joke. It's not alignment indicative whatsoever. He knows he is trying to match his town meta here because he is aware he is scum, notice now he never follows up at all on this. It's just one of their many soft pushes that never amount to anything. Important to note here that they never converse again for the rest of day 1 once they are concentrated on getting the grack lynch. Oats voted for Koshi day 1! who did they vote for? sn0 with a wish washy stance drops his vote on grack and skanjab has his vote uselessly on hopeless at that point. also take a look at this post : skanjab mysteriously missing from this list, I guess he doesn't need to read him or comment about him. Oh wait... Oh, but wait, Koshi was on this list. And half the game isn't. Whelp, there goes that theory. At this point hasn't conversed with or spoken of skanjab of ages but then he is randomly back on his scummiest list. The old 1 town/1 scum lynch prospects, never gets old. Keep in mind we now know at this point that Oats wanted koshi dead and he wants sn0 dead too. obviously he wants oats to die and has to make up some bs reasons. Now do a double take and realize that he never gives any explanation for his skanjab read. lol? Does anybody actually remember these pushes of theirs on each other? cause I sure as hell don't. They probably realize in their scum QT that their interactions look pretty dumb with zero reasoning from either side so they try and get fake angry and have a little bitch fight that lasts a whole...one post. Solid discussion right there. Yes, the push on D1, when you wanted to be all mysterious. Just because you don't remember it doesn't mean it didn't happen, and it definitely doesn't mean I'm scum just because you don't remember me pushing him, or him pushing me. Now compare that to a case he makes on Oats a bit after and his interaction with him. Nuff said, it is clearly quite different. How is this different in a scum/scum compared to a scum/town or town/town interaction? It's obviously different, we are different people talking about different things. It being different isn't anything. Explain how it is different in a way that indicates a scum/scum interaction. "couldnt decide what was the better playing, bussing for town cred later or just voting for the townie" I could go on but I think I made my point here, although I am not the best at making cases. What is this last "point" in your case? You just changed the words of something he said to something completely random. How is that anything? This is obviously here to make the case seem larger, as is the "I could go on". No, you really couldn't, because from a whole thread of stuff to fish, you've come up with incredibly silly points. 2/10 Try harder pls. | ||
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Skanjab1s
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WaveofShadow
Canada31494 Posts
Oatsmaster (2): Cephiro, Skanjab1s (2): Hopeless1der, VayneAuthority VayneAuthority (2): Oatsmaster, Skanjab1s Not voting (0): No bodies Oatsmaster is currently set to be lynched. Day 4 ends in . | ||
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Hopeless1der
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VayneAuthority
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VayneAuthority
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Hopeless1der
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VayneAuthority
United States8983 Posts
On January 26 2014 07:23 Hopeless1der wrote: worst case scenario its 3v2v1 and the SK is eating roleblocks. If the SK lynches against town sentiment (lynch skan), they also lose and there may not be much we can do about it other than complain that they are not playing to their win condition. If its 4v2 like most people believe, Skanjab1s is a dead man. Simple right? not quite. If nothing changes as it is now, Oats is going to die. If Cephiro doesn't come back and vote skanjab and I am correct in the scumteam then there is no possible way for us to win. I highly doubt there is an SK at this point but I guess it is plausible. If anyone it would probably be Cephiro i suppose. | ||
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Cephiro
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Hopeless1der
United States5836 Posts
On January 26 2014 07:27 Cephiro wrote: No, you need to get your asses back on Oats. -_- do you have a compelling argument for why skan is town? Do you explain how his vote for ?vayne? instead of koshi almost lost us the game and that it almost guarantees he is scum? | ||
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Hopeless1der
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Cephiro
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VayneAuthority
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VayneAuthority
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##vote oatsmaster this way oats reaches 3 votes first and I can't be vote shenannie'd by sn0 man if he is scum. I am prepared to vote back to skanjab if cephiro changes his mind though. | ||
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Oatsmaster
United States16627 Posts
Relax. | ||
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Cephiro
Finland1934 Posts
Skan mafia vigilante. Hopeless Town Veteran Cephiro Vanilla Town Sn0_Man Vanilla Town VayneAuthority Vanilla Town / Serial Killer We have to lynch mafia today, That brings us to 4-1 or 3-1-1. Possibilities: 4-1 into 3-1, with most likely me dying on N4. Nolynch D5 Either 3-1 or 2-1 If 3-1, mafia won't shoot -> lynch the remaining mafia on D6 If 2-1, lynch the remaining mafia on D6 with a smaller chance of fucking it up. If there is an SK, it is Vayne, there is no other possibility. (Missing SK shot on N1, guess who got roleblocked?) In this scenario he has probably been roleblocked ever since, just not claiming it. Or just withheld his shot for maximum wifom. Then we come into a tricky situation Without roleblocker: SK shoots town -> 2-1-1 If mafia shoots town -> 1-1-1, remaining town decides winner of the game (or joint win for SK+mafia). (If town dies, SK is most likely bulletproof -> SK wins) So mafia would vote for SK, SK would vote for either town or mafia. Unless he is not bulletproof, in which case he'd vote for mafia. This means mafia will not shoot town, unless they want give up the control of having a say in who wins the game. Best play for mafia is to shoot SK. If SK is not bulletproof, he dies, bringing us into 2-1 for the final day. If SK is bulletproof, 2-1-1 final day. 2-1-1 final day means... town wants to nolynch. SK & Mafia want to lynch each other. Or lynch a townie together. Two possible scenarios: 2-1-1 night, or 1-1-1 night 2-1-1: They cannot shoot each other or they will lose. They will have to not shoot, shoot the same townie, or shoot both townies. If no town dies, repeat scenario 2-1-1 day. If 1 town dies, town decides winner (unless scum+SK decide on joint win), if 2 town dies, scum+sk joint win. 1-1-1: Town decides winner or scum+sk joint win. With roleblocker: 3-1-1: SK roleblocked, town shot: 2-1-1 with SK bulletproof possibility, not good for scum. SK roleblocked, SK shot: 3-1 or 3-1-1, town controls lynch in optimal play, and wins game. (3 votes on either SK or scum -> 3-1, NK = 2-1, last day town lynches and wins) SK not roleblocked, see above scenarios. Only joint win possibility. Optimal play for mafia with roleblocker alive is to roleblock SK and shoot him to get rid of bulletproof, leaving it 3-1-1 (only possibility for sole win, if manages to convince other townies of himself being town), or agree to draw with SK and play accordingly. Basically for town this means we are fucked if we kill the roleblocker. But that is also mafia's only chance for a win with their own faction only. Thus, I'd like to propose the mafia faction that their non-roleblocker starts posting baby seals and outs himself willingly for today's lynch. We are not lynching outside Oats/Skan. | ||
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WaveofShadow
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Skanjab1s
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On January 26 2014 03:08 Skanjab1s wrote: Please explain how I am game-mechanically confirmed scum. Please. I'm begging you. Oh, so hopeless, I guess you couldn't do this, then? | ||
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Skanjab1s
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