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On October 07 2011 04:50 Qatol wrote: This will be the new home of the model OP. It is still a work in progress, but I'm putting the old Model OP here as a placeholder for now. ... Smurfs: Did I reveal my secret identity for naught? | ||
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/obviousmachine Don't like scooby doo. | ||
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rayn, feelings on Holyflare writing out a bunch of junk? Show me yours and I'll show you mine. | ||
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On January 10 2014 05:13 GGTeMpLaR wrote: Answer is fine, but you taking a stance would have made you look more townie. Right now all I've got to go on is the caps in your name.Could be either, there is flexibility there. | ||
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I'm serious about my artanis comment. He's a good player, and here he's content to sit back and dog it up. Assuming you had ANY kind of goal with your scooby stuff, he is a person playing along but not really doing anything at all. Does this not rustle your jimmies? | ||
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On January 10 2014 07:28 GGTeMpLaR wrote: Cuz HolyFlare came into the game and made a spectacle of himself. For a couple hours into the game, that's still going to be townie for me.After this post you joke around some more with HolyFlare who still hasn't given a read despite me pinging him. Artanis actually gave a scum read (or at least, that's what I read into his barking at Derrida as) that I agree with. At least he's playing the game while trolling. HolyFlare is still trying to recruit people into his mysteryvan. How do you read Artanis scummy over HolyFlare and Derrida? Artanis DID do a little read-giving, which I like more than what rayn has done. But I don't view him barking and whatnot as determinative of anything. His more recent post looks better. Derrida sounds like Doritos. | ||
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On January 10 2014 20:59 Holyflare wrote: It's not an assumption. I personally find all the extra fluff to be anti-town. It adds pages, provides things to do for people that aren't scumhunting (even if you are using it for a purpose), and it fluffs your filter up. It also encourages rayn to add fluff now too. Regardless of what posting scooby doo stuff does for you, it has an effect on the rest of the thread, and it may not be helpful for everyone. Let alone the fact that people aren't "assuming" your scooby doo stuff to be anti-town, some people just think it is. Not an assumption, an opinion. For instance, I think it's anti-town right now.Why is everyone assuming that scooby doo is ANTI-town? It helps me figure out alignments, it has generated A LOT of discussion over it for analysis and you can all have fun in the process! That is the most pro town thing that can be done. You also quite clearly have not read this game up to date if you think it has wasted any time at all, coupled with the fact that you think I haven't been participating my previous read on you is rapidly dwindling. I would be gathering A LOT more information from people playing scooby doo if they actually played along instead of criticising it. I have already gained much information based on responses though so it has most definitely had a net benefit. For instance, this is your opinion. You would be in a better spot if people played along. But other people may disagree. They're not assuming differently, they're not necessarily scummy for disagreeing, you are both assuming different things. @everyone that isn't HF, #HF On January 10 2014 21:16 Holyflare wrote: I know you're new and are learning the ropes but a connection theory between 2 unflipped players is generally regarded as really bad in the community as you are basing your entire read on unknown information. So when you come back saying that I am your scum read so there has to be a scum who take takes the opposite stance to me is verging on the crazy. You can't possibly know that UNLESS 1 of the scum is actually taking a stance against me and you are using that information for your attack on me. On January 10 2014 21:20 Derrida wrote: *friendly rhinoceros noises*Jesus, I have read your god damn filter. This is not analysis, this is just babbling. Do you honestly expect two scums to act like buddies at the start of the game? I don't think anyone can be this naive, you are just swinging wild accusations based on what? "exp of mafia games"? what does that even mean? Please provide clear and logical analysis before accusing people of not reading the game. *goes into a pet shop, buys scooby snacks and a clicker* Holyflare attacks derrida for drawing conclusions between unflipped players. Holyflare has been drawing conclusions between unflipped players. Derrida does not turn hard on this and bop HF, but it's there. I don't care who you are; that's scummy right there. | ||
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On January 10 2014 17:12 GGTeMpLaR wrote: This is a poor way to scumhunt, and is going to lead you down a lot of wrong paths. You can assume anyone is scum and find reasons that their actions are then scummy. If you're mafia, it's how you make decent-sounding scum reads. If you're town, it's how you tunnel, often incorrectly. It's not at all a good way to get scumreads, because if you're town you're doing exactly what mafia would like to be doing, and you're starting with someone being scum and then finding actions, rather than using actions to find someone scummy in the first place.First, I made an educated guess about his intentions when I scumread him. Under the assumption that HolyFlare is scum, I think my guess about his intentions made perfect sense. On January 10 2014 17:12 GGTeMpLaR wrote: Artanis's initial scumread is this: to which you responded Second, I pointed out before I don't care if people are going to troll as long as they are going to give concrete reads and play the game as well (hence why I actually approved of Artanis even though he was acting like a dog - he gave a solid scumread that lined up with my thoughts and quoted the same post I had issue with, even going so far as bolding the significant portion of the quote). On January 10 2014 05:18 GGTeMpLaR wrote: Are you saying that you considered artanis's initial barking a concrete/solid scumread? Are you saying you presented your thoughts on derrida? Or does the bolded bit of your later quote only apply to later posts? Would like to see you back this bit up.I like Artanis because I think he just sniffed out the second scum. I'll be back in a few hours. | ||
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Here boy. Here boy! Sniff this! On January 10 2014 17:12 GGTeMpLaR wrote: Second, I pointed out before I don't care if people are going to troll as long as they are going to give concrete reads and play the game as well (hence why I actually approved of Artanis even though he was acting like a dog - he gave a solid scumread that lined up with my thoughts and quoted the same post I had issue with, even going so far as bolding the significant portion of the quote). Now don't respond right now, wait until GG gets a chance to reply. But hold onto that scent and let me know what it smelled like and what the response smells like once made. | ||
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On January 11 2014 02:48 raynpelikoneet wrote: The entirety of page 1 of your filter.Can you show me what parts of my posts are fluff? My big post was purely directed to Derrida because he obviously was doing something dumb. And no, there is no way he is mafia, you can take my word for it. And at least this post, which was your first real post. On January 10 2014 16:27 raynpelikoneet wrote: In bold, you make two points. No intervening text, and then in italics, you make the same exact two points again. Why i think GGTeMpLaR is mafia: These posts: First of all, he is accusing Holyflare of promoting shitting up the thread. This is a completely inaccurate accusation. Holyflare's intentions are still unclear, so him doing what he did is a null-tell. Second, nobody is forced to play along with Holyflare's Scooby-doo game if they do not want to. But GGTeMpLaR himself enters the van. He is himself promoting the "shitting up the thread" that Holyflare can't possibly stop because Holyflare is not responsible for other people's actions. - GGTeMpLaR calls Holyflare scummy for shitting up the thread -> but the joins the shitting up the thread instead of stopping him. - GGTeMpLaR says Holyflare is responsible for shitting up the thread when nobody is forced to play the game. If someone is responsible for shitting up the thread it's all the people who +1 Holyflare's game, not Holyflare. - Both of above are incorrect logic and looks like GGTeMpLaR is just trying to find an easy target rather than find people's motives behind their actions. On January 11 2014 03:18 raynpelikoneet wrote: 100%Giggletummy i find it funny you say this: Take a look at your own filter at the start of the game. Do you want to stand behind this statement? Ask me if every statement I've ever made in this game is pro-town. Your other suspicions of players aren't as fluffy as this, but filling out your reads with repetitive comments is a nice way to make it look like your filter is more productive than it is. | ||
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On January 11 2014 03:20 raynpelikoneet wrote: Also where has Holyflre done pre-flip association reads? Could you show me those? On January 10 2014 17:52 Holyflare wrote: Not full association, but assuming there's no early bus and saying if Derrida is mafia then rayn or I are mafia, or if he is town then Templar/Artanis/Mocsta is mafia. Association based on votes, which is more concrete but is still drawing conclusions on assumptions and also setting out big, unhelpful groups of people.There is nothing circumstantial whatsoever. My alignment is confirmed to myself (and others if they read the game(s)) and so I can remove myself from the equation. There is not a chance in sweet sweet hell that a bus occurs that fast into the day based on the same evidence appearing from every person on that wagon with such little filter from a person. No credit would be gained and they lose a potential ally. So either he is scum in which case rayn or giggletummy are mafia (something that doesn't seem that likely so far) or he is town (which is much much more probable) and by process of elimination at least 1 mafia are in the group of Templar, Artanis and Mocsta. On January 10 2014 18:28 Holyflare wrote: This is, to a decent extent, drawing an association between you and I.IML is instant majority lynch (which this game is). When a person reaches a majority that person is INSTANTLY LYNCHED. Thus it is extremely dangerous to leave your votes on people if you do not have full information on them yet. Mocsta seems very buddy buddy with giggle, weirdly so. A lot of people were around (yes a lot of it was scooby related at the time) but he took his time out from trolling to only address Giggle posts. I like to think Mocsta has a longing crush on giggle too, evidence can be found: He only addresses people that he knows (me and artanis etc) with heuristics from voice games (yes, elements of trolling etc etc) but doesn't attempt to involve us in discussion either in favour of discussion with giggle (who I've just proven to be... not so towny looking). I don't like mocsta's vote either (was it L-1 or L-2??) he gets frustrated in voice games when people start voting so fast and he should know not to do it in a forum game without discussion especially as there is ample time to discuss. His case was also very lackluster. On January 10 2014 18:32 Holyflare wrote: Again, mocsta and I are mafia, and it seems that a decent proportion of his suspicion is because mocsta responds to my posts.I can see a team of Giggle/Mocsta/Templar (obviously eliminating one) although judged on exp of mafia games (I don't think i've seen templar play?) he looks more tunelled than anything else and also seems confused about the implications of the setup whereas Mocsta definitely knows better. At an early stage such as now a Giggle/Mocsta team is looking mighty plausible. | ||
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On January 11 2014 03:31 raynpelikoneet wrote: My ratio is something like 17/65. Which is better? It's not the size of the ratio rayn, it's how you use it. You should know that <_< | ||
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On January 11 2014 03:34 raynpelikoneet wrote: Well my associations are that 2 of you/Mocsta/Artanis are scum because other people are town. dealwithit. none of you three is making better posts than two other and you all fail to give your reads on the other two. ![[image loading]](http://i3.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/newsfeed/000/243/561/afc.gif) | ||
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On January 11 2014 03:40 raynpelikoneet wrote: Me. It's the official national smiley of Pitcairn.Holyflare who uses the " <_< " smiley? I know i have seen it recently but can't remember who it is. | ||
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How do you feel about the rest of derrida's filter, other than the couple posts you mentioned in your initial vote. Pull some specific things if you would. | ||
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On January 11 2014 08:35 Holyflare wrote: I don't care about anyone else's drawing of associative tells because I don't care about associative tells in a vacuum.Are you trying to portray my "associative tells" as bad because acting differently to a certain person is definitely substantial compared to derrida who drew associative tells based on.....? Yes, absolutely nothing. Yet you jumped on ME for that instead of him. Why is that? Why have you still failed to address anything that has happened surrounding derrida's almost lynch, his scummyness of his first posts to some people or his play thus far. All you have done is pretty much +1 what i've been saying now. I care that you make associations between mocsta and others while saying not to draw associative tells. | ||
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On January 11 2014 08:44 Holyflare wrote: Again, don't care why anyone is drawing associations, on what grounds, for the purposes of my comment on you. Only that you say not to while doing so.I think you're confusing linking 2 players together as an association of alignment with linking 2 people together based on suspicious behaviour. I drawn no conclusions of alignment from mocsta's choice of person to change his style on whereas derrida does based on interaction of unflipped players. | ||
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On January 11 2014 09:07 GGTeMpLaR wrote: My dear gg, it is difficult to ask you anything other than question. I cannot very well ask you platypi, or ask you trees. No no, that won't do. I'm afraid I'll stick to asking questions.You just keep asking me questions about my reads without giving any of yours, and when you do critique my posts, you don't even get the context right of the arguments you use against me. When corrected by me pointing out the context, you ignore my counter-arguments and ask me more questions. Did you read derrida's filter from his newbie game? | ||
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On January 11 2014 09:17 GGTeMpLaR wrote: Gotta give short answer for a moment. You were scummy on derrida. HF posted his stuff. You said you hadn't looked at past games. You told someone else, when asked, that you would look at them. What are your thoughts on whether or not I read derrida's filter from his newbie game? How would a "yes" answer from me lead you to read me compared to a "no" answer from me? And more importantly, how is this relevant to your read on Mocsta/Artanis? You never commented on them. You came back today, and were still calling him scummy. So there's something relevant to everyone else in derrida's filters that you are either disregarding for no reason, or refusing to look at. When this guy is a scumread of yours. | ||
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On January 11 2014 10:04 Giggletummy wrote: Apart from newbie ... 49 or whatever that one is, do you have any other recent/recent-ish games? Disregard this q, there aren't any others. HF, reading your stuff and then will comment in a sec. | ||
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He is not my comrade, but if he were my comrade, I would think "that is my comrade." Perhaps if we were on a boat, it would be more clear? All is clear when on a boat. Yes. Yes yes. His town games are much more involved, this is true. His scum games are also more involved. Also, some of his posts in this Newbie make me giggle. The vote count stuff is meh. Him not posting much is meh because it doesn't fit either alignment of mocsta from what I've read. Him following up on Derrida looks town to me. I'd much prefer to vote rayn >_> He's quiet for a rayn. He's unopinionated for a rayn. Reads derrida's other game, scum game, and finds different mindset. Calls GG mafia, doesn't ever bother to give GG the same treatment (GG has one past game, was mafia). Then calls GG town because GG wouldn't be tunneled in on derrida as mafia, but doesn't give mocsta the same treatment (mocsta's filter, to me, reads relatively tunneled in on derrida, despite whatever anyone else posts). I find his filter very fluffy, but don't remember rayn being a fluff guy. Then he spends a bunch of time 8-9 hours ago farting around with me, but mostly just farting. He's commenting on my stuff, but not really doing anything else (check his last page of filter, lots of banter with me but it's just banter, he's never calling me scum, or looking at anyone else's posts really, he's just in the thread and chatting but never moving anywhere). He treats (derrida/gg) and (gg/mocsta) inconsistently, imo. He posts a lot of useless troll/fluff posts, and then recently just posts a bunch of rudderless stuff. His read/vote on GG is lacking, as I already pointed out it's just two minor points repeated, then he jumps to two of (mocsta/artanis/myself), while, imo, not bothering to try and read artanis's posts and bantering with me but never really developing anything more solid. | ||
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While you say rayn was "doing the most" in the game 10 hours ago or something, and most of his filter isn't spam, I disagree on those things. The entirety of page 1 of his filter is fluff. All the pretty stuff is fluff. That's a good half his filter. And while you say he's eliminating town reads and finding scum reads, he's really just saying these people might be scum. He votes mocsta, then artanis, then banters with me and left the thread for a while after basically indicating I was doing something scummy. But rayn is a posty and a pushy dude. He's not posting or pushing any of those three. He's just sitting back with a list and he's content with that. From what I have read and been told, rayn is normally spammy and would be making cases on all 3 people in his list, plus a stray cat he found (definitely mafia), and maybe 1-2 of his town reads, just because. Is this not the case? | ||
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It is lopsided! Alakaslam, this cannot be! I shall even the vote count for you! 1-1-1-0-1-1-1 is a much nicer looking vote count. ##vote: GGTeMpLaR That should be sufficient. My mind is currently on rayn, but I don't like to break the symmetry. Interested in all these future promises from mocsta and rayn. | ||
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On January 11 2014 12:54 raynpelikoneet wrote: Confucious say, "He who lynches artanis D1 is high on pot." Or something to that effect. I generally follow a method to Artanis's doggie madness, and that's enough to put him mildly townie for me right now.You don't get to tell me when i do post and when i don't because you failed to answer my pretty clear post where i wanted your read on Artanis and Mocsta. Also if you think i am scum you are bad or scum, so that's another reason why you don't get to tell me what to do. Currently pro-mocsta and anti-you/HF, but there's so little to go on that I'd rather you guys just get in the ring and duke it out. Are you glad that you are not a wrestler? Or, should I say, are you a wrestler? Maybe if you are I have offended you. Maybe I am an offender. Whether you wrestle or not, I am glad we are not rustlers. A rustler must sometimes go into town for a dance, a square dance, and I know not who would lead and who would follow. No. Our rustler dancing would end in sore feet and sore feelings. | ||
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I can't prove or disprove the voice mafia/IML comments, but it would be curious for you to lie about that. I disagree with your characterization of following up with derrida saying he'd do something. So I'm left with the B2B comparison to consider. Yes, mocsta's lazier attitude does not make him not scum, but it makes your case look weaker, because you didn't present those thoughts before. You just compared his play to one town game and went with that. | ||
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On January 11 2014 13:37 Derrida wrote: Even when taking on a new persona, it is difficult to take on a new persona.Guys, Derrida confirmed town, come on. I wish posting screenshots of inbox was not banned. Aside from that, I am trying to read through the other games you guys played together, which is a stupidly enormous task on its own, it's like playing 3-4 mafia games simultaneously. As I'm the newbie here, could someone summarize me why a player's attitude in previous games matter? I would assume we are all above-average intelligent people here who could take on a new persona in every new game, no? It is easy to say you will play differently. It is much more difficult to follow through, or to hold conversations and not slip into whatever your default scum or default town posting style may be. Using past games/interest levels/whatever is more effective with some players than others, but is of >0 value. Conduct in this game still more important, but past games can shade conduct in this game. | ||
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On January 11 2014 13:56 Holyflare wrote: I did do the research. That's why I said that yes, B2B looks different, but so do his other games. Seriously though, look at that newbie game I linked.I'm not playing a 1 on 1 game with you so when I make a statement I expect you to do research to verify whether my claims are true or not in regards to meta because that is what a sensible towny would do and it allows me to see who is putting effort into this game. You can look into games where he is both scum and town I do not need to provide all the evidence because based on Mocsta's post I can pretty much confirm him as scum in my mind so I find it INCREDIBLY suspicious that he is your favourite out of me/rayn/him. I'm more than interested in hearing you turn a critical eye towards rayn, even if you still end up townie on him. | ||
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 ##unvote ##vote: Mocsta I think the martyring indicates he's green, though. It's a two-man scum team, so mocsta lynching himself would be a big middle finger to his scumbuddy on day one. And I disagree that he might off himself to keep information from town, because he wasn't posting in a manner that gave us any information except perhaps on HF's alignment. I expect a green flip, but can't condone the self-vote hammer, and am happy to lynch players of any alignment in any game until they cease that behavior. | ||
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On January 12 2014 02:19 raynpelikoneet wrote: I like fun games more than won games. If I have to lose some games or put myself in a worse position in order to discourage certain behavior that makes the game less fun for everyone (screw everyone, I'm killing myself because I cba to do anything), I will. With a smile on my face. Do it enough and perhaps people will knock it off.##unvote: So Giggletummy you are voting for a guy you think is town. Why is that? On January 12 2014 02:23 Holyflare wrote: Townies get frustrated and do stupid things. There are more townies, they feel expendable, they feel like they don't want to play the game. There are only two scum. They are not expendable. They feel very scared, because if either of them dies, the other guy is all alone. He's not a scum team anymore, he's a shipwreck survivor clinging to a floating log and trying to survive in the ocean. I'd expect self hammering to come from town based on that.How is self hammering a green indicative thing to do in any instant majority lynch????? Has everyone gone crazy? | ||
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On January 12 2014 02:41 raynpelikoneet wrote: I do.Yeah well you don't policy lynch when you have infinite amount of time and D2 LYLO. | ||
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On January 12 2014 03:05 raynpelikoneet wrote: Oh now i get it. But still, why do you want to policy lynch in D2 LYLO game? On January 12 2014 02:49 Giggletummy wrote: It's not a policy and it's not useful for stamping behavior out if you selectively enforce. | ||
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D1 LYLO game. Someone tries to hammer himself. If he's town, he just tried to end the game for all townies. Yes, I would policy lynch that person. Either the player is scum or just tried to make us all lose anyway. I don't want that guy in D2. I don't want that guy in D3. I don't want that guy in D4. I don't want that guy thinking he can play the same way in another D1 LYLO game, or another, or another. I don't want my children, or my children's children, or some russian orphan that GGQ adopts/smuggles out of russia to play in a game where people think they can just lose the game for town as a townie and that's fine. I would rather play in games where players don't think those actions are okay. Lynch in the D1 LYLO game, lose, and every other townie in that LYLO game maybe shies away from throwing a game because they're frustrated or don't care. | ||
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On January 12 2014 03:21 Holyflare wrote: I think we're both valuing things way more than we should, because mocsta either trolled with his vote or actually tried to kill himself. One way he's scum, the other way he's playing in such an illogical way that I don't think he cares who his scumreads are voting. Ascribing strategy and reasoning to him just getting himself lynched doesn't feel like a strong move for either of us, tbh.You are valuing his care for his team mate way more than you should. How about analysing what I've actually been saying instead of using the wifomy martyr as your basis for a town read? I disagree with your characterization of followup on Derrida. Followup on a scumread is often townie. People do things all the time to "pressure" someone when it really isn't worth any pressure. It feels like it should be, so they take action, say there's some pressure, and that's mostly fine. I disagree with you that scummocsta just digs a hole. Yes, a lot of his defense was just dumb comments tossed at you or him saying "you are wrong." That's a terrible way for a scum to defend himself. It's a terrible way for a town to defend himself. So all his responses to your wanting him lynched seem, to me, like the posts of someone who doesn't care about the game, but not from a specific alignment. Disagree, as noted, that self-hammering is scum wanting to end the day early. It's someone who doesn't want to play. | ||
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I recognize that I am likely overvaluing that argument, but I do stand by it. | ||
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On January 12 2014 05:58 Holyflare wrote: There are 5 townies. There are 2 scum. Anyone who just frankly doesn't want to play a game of mafia is more likely to be town than mafia. Barring certain players with a reputation for hating playing scum, which I don't believe mocsta has, in any game a person who just gives up is more likely town.You are actually both wrong. A town player most likely does not want to participate LATER on in the game. A towny on day 1 who has both of his scum team accusations on his wagon does not EVER EVER EVER EVER EVER self hammer. This is beyond ridiculous that you can think like this. I think they both exhibit different behavior as well. A scum player who does not want to play can just lurk. He's not helping his team, but at the very least he's not hurting it, and he 100% doesn't have to do jack. Town players may exhibit more frustration, fight getting lynched, give up, whatever. Personal opinion on this bit. | ||
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Derrida, what other games did you read, and what are a couple interesting things you found in those games? Also, you think mocsta is town. 3-4 people have voted for him, not counting himself. Out of that group, are some scum? All scum? None scum? Is rayn scum? | ||
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On January 12 2014 05:30 Artanis[Xp] wrote: Artanis, sir, you rhyme quite wellMocsta's return I eagerly await in his death I shall not yet participate. Much opinions have been given I wish to who he thinks is the villain. If he does not provide us with information a scumclaim is the designation. Time we do not lack why the hurry to crack his sack? But much on mocsta you do dwell. Why care you 'bout his reads of scum When this game he has been a bum? Turn your verse to other names What think you bout the man called rayn? A scum before, but much he's typed Do you still wish him set alight? Derrida plays a different game Than when in red we saw his name. But Holyflare has got a point And from this game D seems disjoint. You wait for mocsta but I fear He's made his thoughts on this game clear. You think his reads will help your thoughts, When on this game he's cast a pox? | ||
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You're just voting a dude you think is going to flip green? | ||
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Went for rayn when mocsta was picking up votes and it sounded like artanis/I would rather lynch rayn (also, we wanted to lynch rayn instead, not "sounded like") Posted that office space bit on HF. Spent forever accusing Derrida, never went and read the one other game that was linked nice and easy for him. After reading, concluding the filters seem different, but weren't "night and day" and he wasn't cleared. Derrida still seems very unlikely, given the difference in play and somewhat for the hammer. HF seems unlikely. I'm not. That leaves me rayn and GG, happy to lynch GG today over rayn. | ||
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On January 14 2014 05:08 raynpelikoneet wrote: And I'm obviously a pterodactyl.I am obviously town. But there aren't a lot of options left, and by virtue of looking less townie than HF or derrida, you're second on the list. Pterodactyls are good at math. | ||
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On January 14 2014 05:29 raynpelikoneet wrote: I would like you to show relevant quotes. On January 14 2014 05:20 Relevant wrote: Perhaps he is saying things to mask his identity On January 14 2014 05:22 Relevant wrote: No, he is not On January 14 2014 05:22 Relevant wrote: Yes, he is | ||
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On January 14 2014 06:30 Holyflare wrote: Because I'd take it to x-1 again, Aquanim hasn't checked in, etc. etc.How can you say that I've been playing bad when i literally lynched scum yesterday? Lolol you funny. Now you are annoyed that I've brought up your name and posted why you are scum and 2 other people agree? Are we all scum? I could make a case but i don't need to because other people have eyes and some have some resemblance of brains. I'm also studying for my exams which were today and tomorrow. Your vote on rayn is.... Yeh Giggle why did you not vote templar when you just posted all of that? Happy to do so now, although drawing this out a little gives some info on rayn. | ||
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Anything got anything incredible useful to do, apart from seeing if Aquanim shows up? | ||
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On January 14 2014 06:46 GGTeMpLaR wrote: Rayn is going to make 15 posts calling this bad. He should not.No you are ignoring my logic. I hadn't ever considered you as a lone scum at that point because of the surety of HF's townread on you. I considered you might be with him, but when Mocsta flips red, you being with HF ceases to be possible. I actually think it would be much more mafia of me to bring up the night death and who their scumread is. "Hey guys, the guy who scumread Rayn died last night. He's probably scum" That's literally the easiest read to make in the history of ever. How does it read townie for someone to point that out? It's more an observation than anything as it's blatantly obvious to everyone who died and what their reads were already. I follow the reasoning behind it but my reads were based on other things less obvious. Anyone of any alignment should make that argument. If you're town, you want rayn lynched, and pointing out that the townie who died overnight wanted to lynch rayn helps you lynch rayn. Good for town GG. If you're mafia, you want a mislynch, and you'll grab whatever a townie would to help you mislynch. Good for scum GG. Easyness has nothing to do with it. If rayn accidentally claims scum in thread, it's easy to lynch him, and still correct. Obvious arguments are obvious because most players think they point towards a conclusion. | ||
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Giving aquanim a couple hours to show up and post just on the off chance we're in danger of some massive throw. | ||
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On January 14 2014 07:37 raynpelikoneet wrote: Can we stop this bullshit already? On January 14 2014 07:37 Alakaslam wrote: Please do On January 14 2014 07:37 Corazon wrote: Please do On January 14 2014 07:37 Giggletummy wrote: Please do On January 14 2014 07:37 HolyFlare wrote: Please do On January 14 2014 07:37 Aquanim wrote: Please do On January 14 2014 07:37 Artanis[Xp] wrote: Please do On January 14 2014 07:37 Mocsta wrote: No, keep it up | ||
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I'd like to see/hear from Aquanim, just in case. I'm not too concerned with anything else right now. Dunno about HF. | ||
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On January 14 2014 08:28 Aquanim wrote: GG was scum in his only other game on the site. http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=430766I got replaced in at pretty much the moment I went to sleep. Things I've learned so far: Holyflare is town Rayn probably town too, but not in such a way I can just conveniently link a post or two and show it. This post by Giggletummy is super-sketchy. He needs more reading. I don't understand GGTeMpLaR's reads at this point but for a first-game scum he's got a lot of spunk. Can someone explain to me why Artanis was shot? | ||
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That post by me was awesome. | ||
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##vote: GGTeMpLaR | ||
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On January 14 2014 11:31 WaveofShadow wrote: Well said, me. Or am I me?I'm nominating that scooby doo shit for funniest whatever. Holyflare had me laughing so hard. Thanks hosts. Ran very smoothly for instant majority, even if we were slothalicious at times. | ||
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postgame lynch, engage | ||
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On January 15 2014 01:21 thrawn2112 wrote: U WOT M8?OK how do you know that I once thought this u fuckn scum i bet you guys share a | ||
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