• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EST 01:45
CET 07:45
KST 15:45
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
[ASL22] Finals Preview: Sweet Victory!12[ASL22] Ro4 Preview: Mirror Mirror6[ASL22] Ro8 Preview: Within Reach5[ASL22] Ro8 Preview: In A Tizzy11[ASL22] Ro16 Preview: Holy Diver5
Community News
Weekly Cups (Oct 26 - Nov 1): MaxPax, herO, Solar win0Weekly Cups (October 19-25): Clem triples first in 5.0.175Evil Geniuses - shutting down23ISSL (IntoTheTV x SOOP SC2 League): Premier7Weekly Cups (October 12-18): 5.0.17 era begins1
StarCraft 2
General
Serral's getting trashed by New Catsle's Mind No more SC2 streamers on team liquid? StarCraft open world shooter announced at BlizzCon [D] Hacker peak in sc2 ? Liquibets sc2 season 30
Tourneys
SC2 iNu's Battles #22 SC4ALL: II Venue Change Announcement! Sparkling Tuna Cup - Weekly Open Tournament WardiTV Mondays ISSL (IntoTheTV x SOOP SC2 League): Premier
Strategy
[H] ZvP Mid-Late Game: Stalkers Collossi HT
Custom Maps
Starcraft 2 Advance [G] How to playtest arcade maps [D] the control group Simple Questions/Answers
External Content
The PondCast: SC2 News & Results Mutation # 551 Robotic Revival Mutation # 550 Graveyard Shift Mutation # 549 Endless Sparkles
Brood War
General
BGH Auto Balance -> http://bghmmr.eu/ List of top players active on ShieldBattery Rollback Netcode in Brood War [Megathread] Daily Funny Videos BW General Discussion
Tourneys
[Megathread] Daily Proleagues [$1250] International ShieldBattery League Small VOD Thread 2.0 KCM Race Survival 2026 Season 4
Strategy
Nuke strategy worked in K-League 2026-11-09 50,000-Word Terran Builds Memo 2026-10-22 Cliff Jump Revisited (1 in a 1000 strategy)
Other Games
General Games
ZeroSpace Early Access is Now Live! Path of Exile Nintendo Switch Thread General RTS Discussion Thread Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread
Dota 2
Dota 2 Champions League Season 3 Begins April 25!
League of Legends
[TL LoL EUW IHs] Teemo shall perish
Heroes of the Storm
Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Deck construction bug
TL Mafia
TL Mafia Community Thread
Community
General
Trading/Investing Thread US Politics Mega-thread Russo-Ukrainian War Thread Dating: How's your luck? Things Aren’t Peaceful in Palestine
Fan Clubs
Fan Club Resource Thread Reynor Fan Club The Flash Fan Club
Media & Entertainment
Movie Discussion! Anime Discussion Thread [Manga] One Piece
Sports
Football (Soccer) Thread TeamLiquid Health and Fitness Initiative For 2023 MLB/Baseball 2023
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
Computer Build, Upgrade & Buying Resource Thread
TL Community
The Automated Ban List Recent Gifted Posts
Blogs
The time I organised my…
AssyrianKing
Playlenda
Playlendapro
Why I built Repalyzer (1.1.…
BlueStar
Innovate or Game Over?
TrAiDoS
ShieldBattery on Mac
Kraekkling
[ASL22] Ro4 Day1 Ticket Giv…
bITt.mAN
Can Bots Beat Pros?? Starcr…
namkraft
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 12881 users

[I] [S] Shadow Mini Mafia - Page 135

Forum Index > TL Mafia
Post a Reply
Prev 1 133 134 135 136 137 156 Next
austinmcc
Profile Joined October 2010
United States6737 Posts
January 31 2014 01:29 GMT
#2681
It's tough to pop while hiding
Fe fi fo fum.
WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31495 Posts
January 31 2014 01:29 GMT
#2682
On January 31 2014 10:23 marvellosity wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 23 2014 02:57 VisceraEyes wrote:
I don't know man, the catchup posts seemed disingenuous, but I'm afraid I'm biased. Based on the posts I'm more willing to admit that I could be wrong about Prome, and yes the alternatives are looking better.

The thing about Prome is that there's no POP to his posts - when he's town, when he thinks he's found something suspicious something clicks and his confidence shoots up and you can see it in his posts. I didn't get that feeling when he was posting about you. But again, I'm not sure how much of it is my own bias speaking.

Foolishness/Sandroba/HolyFlare are three targets who are, in my opinion, well equipped to prove their worth D1 if they're town. That none of them has been able to do this is troubling to me.

Been checking through VE's filter for Prome thoughts. Possibly this is the strongest thing in there. I defended Prome on ego partly because I was totally convinced Fool was pushing for a mislynch, but this stuff nonetheless remains true. "there's no POP" is really an excellent description.

Gonna keep noting this because it keeps happening all game, but I really liked this point when he made it, and noted it as well. I think it may have also been a point in my original Prome case? I froget.
It's allllllll in my filter.

Also I am here now and reading and will be for the majority of the night if people have anything.
twitch.tv/waveofshadow ||| Winner of AHGL's So You Think You Can Cast! ||| Juicy Dad for lyfe ||| 'idk i get a kick out of stupid things' - Jarms Yarng
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
January 31 2014 01:30 GMT
#2683
Alright Wave, you're awesome. Happy? :p

Some of us are going back to relook for ourselves, now shoo.

Or talk to me about austin, up to you, i can't be up for much longer.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
January 31 2014 01:31 GMT
#2684
On January 31 2014 10:29 austinmcc wrote:
It's tough to pop while hiding

It is, yet he has *enough* filter to be poppy in.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
January 31 2014 01:31 GMT
#2685
So I post and magically 3 people appeared. How lovely
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
austinmcc
Profile Joined October 2010
United States6737 Posts
January 31 2014 01:32 GMT
#2686
On January 31 2014 10:31 marvellosity wrote:
So I post and magically 3 people appeared. How lovely
Yup. You appear, so it's time for your hourly reminder

kita dun axed you a question
Fe fi fo fum.
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
January 31 2014 01:33 GMT
#2687
Reminding me makes no difference to anything, because i won't forget it, and you prodding me about it won't make me go look at it any faster
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31495 Posts
January 31 2014 01:34 GMT
#2688
On January 31 2014 10:30 marvellosity wrote:
Alright Wave, you're awesome. Happy? :p

Some of us are going back to relook for ourselves, now shoo.

Or talk to me about austin, up to you, i can't be up for much longer.

Not awesome enough. And relooking is exarctly what I've been doing.
Alright let me go look at your post again.
twitch.tv/waveofshadow ||| Winner of AHGL's So You Think You Can Cast! ||| Juicy Dad for lyfe ||| 'idk i get a kick out of stupid things' - Jarms Yarng
austinmcc
Profile Joined October 2010
United States6737 Posts
January 31 2014 01:36 GMT
#2689
On January 31 2014 10:33 marvellosity wrote:
Reminding me makes no difference to anything, because i won't forget it, and you prodding me about it won't make me go look at it any faster
It makes a difference to Kita's memory. 9/Kita, NEVER FORGET.
Fe fi fo fum.
austinmcc
Profile Joined October 2010
United States6737 Posts
January 31 2014 01:40 GMT
#2690
If I'm gonna post serious though, then the non-prome mafia needs to figure out who to paint as the final scum and who to leave alive at endgame.

The sooner you take stances, even if you're just gonna go back on em or whatever, about who pairs well and who doesn't, blah blah, the better imo. That's one reason I'm particularly interested.
Fe fi fo fum.
austinmcc
Profile Joined October 2010
United States6737 Posts
January 31 2014 01:42 GMT
#2691
Sorry spam, but additional half-thought.

The remaining mafia also wants to wait as long as possible to take stances, so as to see where everyone else's heads are at (assuming us townies haven't been lying about our reads and ordering, mwahahahaha). So it ain't just about speed or responding or anything, it's about making up your mind, or posting some thoughts at least, before you can read everyone ELSE'S minds.
Fe fi fo fum.
WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31495 Posts
January 31 2014 01:47 GMT
#2692
On January 31 2014 00:20 marvellosity wrote:
Wave, talk to me a bit about how you've ordered your reads. Primarily I'm not quite getting how you've lumped austin into town and I'm outrageously lumped into the remaining suspicious pile. Have you reconciled yourself with the weird shit that austin has done this game?

His, imo, unreasonably strong townread on Toad/Holy based on almost nothing. His attack on Prome for a really weird reason that still no-one has agreed with, and yet for some reason he's particularly suspicious of me for not agreeing with it. The fact he's always come in super-late to push any lynch, on every single day so far. His 100% absurd attack on me for when I said "vote your strongest read" when in context it was fucking obvious I was talking about day 3. I clarified and he continued the attack on the same basis. It's totally absurd that he's really trying to catch me out for being "hypocritical" for day 1 reads and voting compared to day 3 actions.

Anyways, tell me what you're seeing that makes you confident in his alignment, plox.

I'm not 100% confident.
Can you give short outlines of the stuff you're talking about here when you outline the problems with austin?
There are things that wig me out about him, but there's things that wig me out about everyone this game, if you haven't noticed. VE and Foolishness obviously included and I came to differing conclusions about them based on the feels they gave me throughout the game. (If Foolishness had shown up earlier and done what he did at deadline I think I would have switched tbh, but that doesn't matter).

On January 31 2014 00:23 marvellosity wrote:
Show nested quote +
I just don't fully buy marv's suspicions and his vote swapping on D1 at the deadline and marv making a comment about voting your strongest scum suspect triggers me poking around that. It's not 1:1, with "but foolishness was your strongest suspect and yet you voted sandroba." That's not valid. But i think that marv's D1 is wonky and his strongest suspect comment set me off.

This is nonsensical.

I actually understood to some degree what austin was getting at at the time to be honest. I also don't find the line of thought scummy in any way, really. He dropped when you explained it the best, here.
On January 29 2014 07:14 marvellosity wrote:
Because day 3 is not day 1

Are you being purposefully obtuse?

You can find plenty of games of mine where I day 1 shenannie. No games where I am not voting my strongest read day 3. It's exceptionally simple to understand


His defenses of the other weird shit he's done (like having me as town AND scum based on D1) here:
On January 29 2014 11:18 austinmcc wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 29 2014 11:06 WaveofShadow wrote:
On January 29 2014 10:55 austinmcc wrote:
On January 29 2014 10:52 WaveofShadow wrote:
On January 29 2014 10:47 austinmcc wrote:
On January 29 2014 10:43 WaveofShadow wrote:
On January 29 2014 10:38 austinmcc wrote:
Anyway, WoS, lemme know if looking at that post as an answer to the question "Can someone tell me why WoS isn't town" makes more sense. I viewed it as a fun exercise to give the reasons you were mafia, in the same vein as my asking you what you would have smacked your forehead over if Gonzaw flipped mafia.

Apart from that, interested to hear from prome about all the later-in-the-day happenings.

So....you're trying to play it off as a semi-joke post or an 'exercise' not rooted in reality?
Because you seemed pretty serious about thinking I was scum to me.
Read the question I'm responding to with THAT POST.

If the whole rest of the day gives you trouble, that's a different issue.

But if THAT POST is particularly egregious, that post is in response to a question that says, "I don't see it, someone tell me how WoS could be mafia." When responding to that, I'm going to post why you might be mafia.

Did you or did you not think I was scum for a portion of that day?
Thought there was a pretty good chance?

That day, I would have put you above prome, gonzaw, kita, toad, myself. Lower than VE. PROBABLY higher than marv, he hadn't gone full suspicious for me yet. You were with Foolishness as possible second mafia.

But honestly I wasn't too concerned about your alignment that day. My main concern about you was how people were referring to your activity, not your own alignment.

As second place scum you should be concerned about me. Everybody else was concerned about the entire scumteam.
Do you understand why this looks so dodgy to me? You are making excuses and trying to pass your scumread off as 'not really a legit read because it doesn't matter but maybe I would have lynched you.'
Yeah, I understand completely.

That's why I'm actually explaining and not going "LOL WRONG" or "I changed my mind" or whatever. I think you have a legitimate point. I can give you SOME of the reasons, especially to that single post. I think if you look at my posting from that day as a whole, i DON'T have you as townie, but I certainly don't have you there with VE. MOST of the statements I make regarding your scumminess should be concern for other people being overly townie on you, which causes me to swing the other way, or be skeptical. I don't believe, however, that I freely post about why you're mafia or why you're super likely mafia, or whatever.

But yeah, it's perfectly fine if you're concerned. I'm also not super worried, because I don't think that I'm the lynch tomorrow under any normal circumstances, and i THINK that if things are falling into place for us and we lynch scum, you will be concerned with my play, confused with my play, but think that I have to be townie. I don't care if you question me or are worried by me, only that you give prome a real loo. Giving prome/marv a real look as a duo would be sexy as well, as giving OTHER people a real look would be further sexy.

actually remind me a great deal of the kind of posting YOU do to as town alleviate my suspicions of you in other games. Which notably, you haven't done in this game.

I'm not gonna lie, some of the stuff on town Austin right now is simply feels. And considering how this game has gone, I don't mind going on feels right now.
twitch.tv/waveofshadow ||| Winner of AHGL's So You Think You Can Cast! ||| Juicy Dad for lyfe ||| 'idk i get a kick out of stupid things' - Jarms Yarng
WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31495 Posts
January 31 2014 01:50 GMT
#2693
On January 31 2014 10:40 austinmcc wrote:
If I'm gonna post serious though, then the non-prome mafia needs to figure out who to paint as the final scum and who to leave alive at endgame.

The sooner you take stances, even if you're just gonna go back on em or whatever, about who pairs well and who doesn't, blah blah, the better imo. That's one reason I'm particularly interested.

And this is what I've been considering all day.
The final part to my earlier 'bad' question marv, is the fact that ultimately I will be the decider in this game; I've been saying it for a while.
There's not a whole lot of convincing I have left to do here for today as I'm pretty sure today's lynch is set in stone right now, and tomorrow it will be me and two people who are voting for each other. As such there really isn't much reason for me to start posting my reads and thoughts because nobody needs to be convinced of MY alignment, and nobody is going to change their minds based on what I say. The re-read of which I am currently in the middle is to get my own head straight, and to fuel the questions that may or may not need to be answered by the remaining members of this game.
twitch.tv/waveofshadow ||| Winner of AHGL's So You Think You Can Cast! ||| Juicy Dad for lyfe ||| 'idk i get a kick out of stupid things' - Jarms Yarng
austinmcc
Profile Joined October 2010
United States6737 Posts
January 31 2014 01:50 GMT
#2694
(He also was poking at sandroba D1, and sandroba responded to his posts, so either we were setting up action (against...prome?) or we can't talk in a QT. He was also willing to vote prome or sandroba D1, did not want to vote foolishness even when foolishness was seriously up for lynch)

(He also didn't drop that point. Marv's statement was that you vote the scummiest candidate, PERIOD. Not that you do so on D3, not that you do so sometimes, but that you do this, PERIOD. I think the D3 vs D1 stuff is as nonsensical as he thinks I'm being. If you believe you always vote the scummiest candidate, the day doesn't matter. If the day matters, then you don't actually believe you always vote the scummiest candidate)
Fe fi fo fum.
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
January 31 2014 01:51 GMT
#2695
On January 31 2014 10:47 WaveofShadow wrote:
I actually understood to some degree what austin was getting at at the time to be honest. I also don't find the line of thought scummy in any way, really. He dropped when you explained it the best, here.
Show nested quote +
On January 29 2014 07:14 marvellosity wrote:
Because day 3 is not day 1

Are you being purposefully obtuse?

You can find plenty of games of mine where I day 1 shenannie. No games where I am not voting my strongest read day 3. It's exceptionally simple to understand

I basically found it suspicious because it seemed so obvious what I was talking about, and it shouldn't have to require me shouting the really obvious context at him to make him stop going down that path. Apparently if you empathised and understood at the time, then it wasn't quite correct for me to find it that off. Ok.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31495 Posts
January 31 2014 01:54 GMT
#2696
On January 31 2014 10:50 austinmcc wrote:
(He also was poking at sandroba D1, and sandroba responded to his posts, so either we were setting up action (against...prome?) or we can't talk in a QT. He was also willing to vote prome or sandroba D1, did not want to vote foolishness even when foolishness was seriously up for lynch)

(He also didn't drop that point. Marv's statement was that you vote the scummiest candidate, PERIOD. Not that you do so on D3, not that you do so sometimes, but that you do this, PERIOD. I think the D3 vs D1 stuff is as nonsensical as he thinks I'm being. If you believe you always vote the scummiest candidate, the day doesn't matter. If the day matters, then you don't actually believe you always vote the scummiest candidate)

Well if you haven't dropped it, you should because that comment is not a scum-marv comment. As town I would totally randomly switch on shenannies if I felt enough like it was townie-led and I didn't know what I was doing D1---though maybe that's BECAUSE I don't usually know what to do D1...? Like, I get the point but I don't think it's a strong one.

And austin don't bracket-put words in my mouth. I don't need to look for extra reasons to figure out your alignment to prove to anyone else.
twitch.tv/waveofshadow ||| Winner of AHGL's So You Think You Can Cast! ||| Juicy Dad for lyfe ||| 'idk i get a kick out of stupid things' - Jarms Yarng
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
January 31 2014 01:54 GMT
#2697
Well don't do anything superdumb like not post definitively in resolution period (assuming we get that far trololol etc), because, ya know, it's not unlikely you'll be shot, methinks.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31495 Posts
January 31 2014 01:54 GMT
#2698
On January 31 2014 10:51 marvellosity wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 31 2014 10:47 WaveofShadow wrote:
I actually understood to some degree what austin was getting at at the time to be honest. I also don't find the line of thought scummy in any way, really. He dropped when you explained it the best, here.
On January 29 2014 07:14 marvellosity wrote:
Because day 3 is not day 1

Are you being purposefully obtuse?

You can find plenty of games of mine where I day 1 shenannie. No games where I am not voting my strongest read day 3. It's exceptionally simple to understand

I basically found it suspicious because it seemed so obvious what I was talking about, and it shouldn't have to require me shouting the really obvious context at him to make him stop going down that path. Apparently if you empathised and understood at the time, then it wasn't quite correct for me to find it that off. Ok.

Is there anything else?
Do you think the final scumteam is austin and prome?
Is Toad involved?
twitch.tv/waveofshadow ||| Winner of AHGL's So You Think You Can Cast! ||| Juicy Dad for lyfe ||| 'idk i get a kick out of stupid things' - Jarms Yarng
WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31495 Posts
January 31 2014 01:56 GMT
#2699
On January 31 2014 10:54 marvellosity wrote:
Well don't do anything superdumb like not post definitively in resolution period (assuming we get that far trololol etc), because, ya know, it's not unlikely you'll be shot, methinks.

If Prome is on the scumteam I likely won't be shot.
If you're on the scumteam I DEFINITELY won't be shot.
If you're NOT on the scumteam I think it would be incredibly dumb to shoot me above you were I scum, but hey that's just me.
twitch.tv/waveofshadow ||| Winner of AHGL's So You Think You Can Cast! ||| Juicy Dad for lyfe ||| 'idk i get a kick out of stupid things' - Jarms Yarng
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
January 31 2014 01:57 GMT
#2700
how do you see austin's posting on the holy/toad slot this game Wave?
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
Prev 1 133 134 135 136 137 156 Next
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
Next event in 3h 15m
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
RuFF_SC2 180
StarCraft: Brood War
Britney 71763
Rain 1574
Bale 40
ZergMaN 23
Noble 18
firebathero 17
yabsab 11
Icarus 8
Force[name] 4
NotJumperer 2
Dota 2
ODPixel137
League of Legends
JimRising 610
Super Smash Bros
Mew2King52
Other Games
summit1g9650
Coldzera 774
XaKoH 430
WinterStarcraft353
C9.Mang0221
Happy155
NeuroSwarm80
Sick80
ViBE42
Railgan5
Organizations
Other Games
gamesdonequick559
BasetradeTV142
Counter-Strike
PGL62
[ Show 13 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• practicex 34
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• intothetv
• Kozan
• IndyKCrew
• Migwel
StarCraft: Brood War
• BSLYoutube
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
Dota 2
• lizZardDota2143
League of Legends
• Rush1139
• Lourlo862
• Stunt387
Upcoming Events
Sparkling Tuna Cup
3h 15m
WardiTV Invitational
5h 15m
YoungYakov vs Lambo
SHIN vs TBD
Percival vs Shameless
Solar vs TBD
OSC
16h 15m
ByuN vs MaxPax
herO vs Krystianer
Percival vs Shameless
LetaleX vs YoungYakov
Nicoract vs Gerald
GgMaChine vs ArT
PiGosaur Cup
18h 15m
INu's Battles
1d 5h
ByuN vs Classic
3D!Clan Event
1d 9h
The PondCast
2 days
KCM Race Survival
2 days
WardiTV Invitational
2 days
Ultimate Battle
3 days
[ Show More ]
CranKy Ducklings
4 days
IPSL
4 days
TerrOr vs IJ_Terran
rasowy vs Hazorath
Sparkling Tuna Cup
5 days
IPSL
5 days
Art_Of_Turtle vs KameZerg
Radley vs George
Replay Cast
5 days
WardiTV Weekly
6 days
Replay Cast
6 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

Proleague 2026-11-09
Blizzard Classic Cup 2026
HCC Season 3

Ongoing

Acropolis #5
KCM Race Survival 2026 Season 4
International ShieldBattery League
Individual League
BSL Season 23
IPSL Winter 2026-27
Calamity Cup Div. A Season 8
IEM Beijing 2026
PGL Masters Bucharest 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 5
1win Private Club #2
Thunderpick World Champ. '26
ESL Pro League Season 24
Stake Ranked Episode 4
1win Private Club #1
Logitech G Play Connect 2026
SL StarSeries Fall 2026
FISSURE Playground #3
BLAST Open Fall 2026

Upcoming

YSL S4
Sector 951
SC4ALL II: Brood War
BSL 23: Non-Korean Championship
HSC XXX
Stellar Fest 2: Lunar Cup
StarCraft2 Weekly Open Tournament 2026 Grand Finals
SC4ALL II: StarCraft II
Kung Fu Cup 2026 Grand Finals
RSL Offline Finals
Underdog Cup 2026 Div 2-3
PGL Bucharest 2027
BLAST Bounty Winter 2027
eXTREMESLAND 2026
PGL Major Singapore 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 6
BLAST Rivals Fall 2026
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2026 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.