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WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31495 Posts
January 30 2014 18:52 GMT
#2641
On January 31 2014 01:19 austinmcc wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 31 2014 01:13 marvellosity wrote:
On January 31 2014 01:10 austinmcc wrote:
On January 31 2014 01:09 marvellosity wrote:
kita can shimmer all he likes, i'll look at things in the order I think matters. In fairly obvious fashion, digging around at people will make kita's question easier to answer

The reasons for Prome's Wave townread is the thing I'm talking about.
Why do WoS and Toad find prome scummy? Do you agree with them/either of them?

That can go on the list, please. If you're not mafia, one of them is, and maybe this is a spot where one of them looks funky.

You've done well at listening at the funky things Toad has done this game up to this point haven't you dear.
I don't know if you read thug life or not. I dunno how closely you read LXIII while hosting.

But I have had very good luck recently calling people town, often for strange reasons, and being correct. In most of those cases, it's not about the sum total of what happens, it's about a specific thing or couple things someone did, how they posted.

I'm going to trust I'm right for now on this one. You don't have to. But at the very least, this is something that has proven to work out, on the whole, well for me, so I'll stick with it until it doesn't.

Oh, so you mean like my townread on VE you found scummy?
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austinmcc
Profile Joined October 2010
United States6737 Posts
January 30 2014 19:04 GMT
#2642
On January 31 2014 03:52 WaveofShadow wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 31 2014 01:19 austinmcc wrote:
On January 31 2014 01:13 marvellosity wrote:
On January 31 2014 01:10 austinmcc wrote:
On January 31 2014 01:09 marvellosity wrote:
kita can shimmer all he likes, i'll look at things in the order I think matters. In fairly obvious fashion, digging around at people will make kita's question easier to answer

The reasons for Prome's Wave townread is the thing I'm talking about.
Why do WoS and Toad find prome scummy? Do you agree with them/either of them?

That can go on the list, please. If you're not mafia, one of them is, and maybe this is a spot where one of them looks funky.

You've done well at listening at the funky things Toad has done this game up to this point haven't you dear.
I don't know if you read thug life or not. I dunno how closely you read LXIII while hosting.

But I have had very good luck recently calling people town, often for strange reasons, and being correct. In most of those cases, it's not about the sum total of what happens, it's about a specific thing or couple things someone did, how they posted.

I'm going to trust I'm right for now on this one. You don't have to. But at the very least, this is something that has proven to work out, on the whole, well for me, so I'll stick with it until it doesn't.

Oh, so you mean like my townread on VE you found scummy?
I find odd defenses of townies to be scummy sometimes, despite being a big creator of them. But on occasion when someone has a funky reason for a townread, they know the guy is townie and can't quite explain why.

Yours is less scummy than others that I've seen, because normally it's a weird but simple/understandable one. Yours was not one that I followed fully, so either it's a bunch of garbled justifications for why VE is townie should he eventually flip, or you just had a peculiar-to-non-WoS's way of reading him this game.
Fe fi fo fum.
austinmcc
Profile Joined October 2010
United States6737 Posts
January 30 2014 19:05 GMT
#2643
BUT YEAH WOS, EXACTLY THE SAME. I'LL OWN UP TO BEING SOME/VERY HYPOCRITICAL THERE, BECAUSE I KNOW THAT MY WEIRD TOWNREADS LOOK WEIRD, I JUST HAPPEN TO KNOW I'M TOWN WHEN I GIVE EM
Fe fi fo fum.
WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31495 Posts
January 30 2014 19:11 GMT
#2644
Yeah but considering you still have me somewhere up on your scumlist because of it, it gives me the jibblies.
twitch.tv/waveofshadow ||| Winner of AHGL's So You Think You Can Cast! ||| Juicy Dad for lyfe ||| 'idk i get a kick out of stupid things' - Jarms Yarng
austinmcc
Profile Joined October 2010
United States6737 Posts
January 30 2014 19:22 GMT
#2645
On January 31 2014 04:11 WaveofShadow wrote:
Yeah but considering you still have me somewhere up on your scumlist because of it, it gives me the jibblies.
There are 4 non-me's left. 2 of those are scum. 2 are town.

You're third on my scumlist right now.

That ... puts you on my townlist? Except you're also third most likely to be scum imo.

Not a lot of options.
Fe fi fo fum.
WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31495 Posts
January 30 2014 19:36 GMT
#2646
Haha
I'm wracking my brains to try to come with the best way to WIFOM the shit out of scum to make nex day LYLO super easy for me.

I'm thinking don't trust stuff I say today 100%, vcause I have some fun ideas but I don't know if its worth the effort or not yet.

Really want to get back to do that reread of the last 20 pages or so but can't guarantee my activity tonight.
I can guarantee my activity during the day tomorrow pre-lynch though again it seems as though prome dies no matter what marv does so I don't know if it matters. The read is for my own purposes---i think everything I'm doing now is in prepapration for tomorrows LYLO. That feels like a dumb thing to do but its where my mind is right now
twitch.tv/waveofshadow ||| Winner of AHGL's So You Think You Can Cast! ||| Juicy Dad for lyfe ||| 'idk i get a kick out of stupid things' - Jarms Yarng
Toadesstern
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Germany16350 Posts
January 30 2014 19:53 GMT
#2647
On January 31 2014 01:01 marvellosity wrote:
Toad, I can't find anything in your filter that shows me the basis of your austin townread. It seems to be a default. What gives? Why am I default lynch after Prome almost and there's not a lot of other consideration?

Thursday is trainday but I'm here now! Anyways:


I'm trying to look confident :3

Haven't seen anything from Austin that made me go "wat?" so far while seeing a bunch of stuff that I'd consider really townish. I mean just recently when I screwed up my math and still had 6 people alive in my head, including kita as still alive and he pointed that out. You think mafia reads that kind of stuff and actually thinks about it? You really think mafia would have seen that I suddenly jumped from 5 to 6 people alive? I don't think so. (On a sidenote: Feel free to take that as confirmation that I didn't know about Kita dying lol)
At the same time you've been pushing weird crap, mostly on me, like "wtf Toad hasn't read Holy's filter!!!" when other people like Kita and VE got in, disagreed and if I remember correctly even called it slightly townish. Yet you for some reason kept giving me crap for nonsensical stuff like that all game long trying to get my lynched. I mean if it would have at least been the way WoS did it with conviction, despite being wrong, but you've been giving me crap all game long for no reason in comparison to people who either gave me crap to get me lynched or didn't give me crap to begin with. Add to that that Foolishness has you as mafia as well, add to that I saw you going "wtf foolishness has me as mafia" when he didn't even mention you at that time in point and found it really weird as well and you're the 2nd most likely mafia for me.

I did check WoS' filter a CRAPTON and as much as I'd like him to be mafia and as much as I'd like these minor things I found to be something they're all just some random crap that really could just be the way he explained it later on and even worse, it does make sense the way the explained it so there's no way I'm considering him over you.

I'm town, that leaves you as 4th in line (Toad -> Austin -> WoS -> Marv -> Prome)
<Elem> >toad in charge of judging lewdness <Elem> how bad can it be <Elem> also wew, that is actually p lewd.
Toadesstern
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Germany16350 Posts
January 30 2014 19:55 GMT
#2648
EBWOP, changes in bolded-red
On January 31 2014 04:53 Toadesstern wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 31 2014 01:01 marvellosity wrote:
Toad, I can't find anything in your filter that shows me the basis of your austin townread. It seems to be a default. What gives? Why am I default lynch after Prome almost and there's not a lot of other consideration?

Thursday is trainday but I'm here now! Anyways:


I'm trying to look confident :3

Haven't seen anything from Austin that made me go "wat?" so far while seeing a bunch of stuff that I'd consider really townish. I mean just recently when I screwed up my math and still had 6 people alive in my head, including kita as still alive and he pointed that out. You think mafia reads that kind of stuff and actually thinks about it? You really think mafia would have seen that I suddenly jumped from 5 to 6 people alive? I don't think so. (On a sidenote: Feel free to take that as confirmation that I didn't know about Kita dying lol)
At the same time you've been pushing weird crap, mostly on me, like "wtf Toad hasn't read Holy's filter!!!" when other people like Kita and VE got in, disagreed and if I remember correctly even called it slightly townish. Yet you for some reason kept giving me crap for nonsensical stuff like that all game long trying to get my "lynched". I mean if it would have at least been the way WoS did it with conviction, despite being wrong, but you've been giving me crap all game long for no reason in comparison to people who either gave me crap to get me lynched or didn't give me crap to begin with. Add to that that Foolishness has you as mafia as well, add to that I saw you going "wtf foolishness has me as mafia" when he didn't even mention you at that time in point and found it really weird as well and you're the 2nd most likely mafia for me.

I did check WoS' filter a CRAPTON and as much as I'd like him to be mafia and as much as I'd like these minor things I found to be something they're all just some random crap that really could just be the way he explained it later on and even worse, it does make sense the way the explained it so there's no way I'm considering him over you.

I'm town, that leaves you as 4th in line (Toad -> Austin -> WoS -> Marv -> Prome)

<Elem> >toad in charge of judging lewdness <Elem> how bad can it be <Elem> also wew, that is actually p lewd.
austinmcc
Profile Joined October 2010
United States6737 Posts
January 30 2014 20:06 GMT
#2649
Toad could you go over some of the minor things you found in WoS's filter?

Also, do you fully agree with the bullet points Foolishness wrote on marv? You think 100% foolishness knows marv's innermost scum thoughts and has accurately put them in the thread?
Fe fi fo fum.
Toadesstern
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Germany16350 Posts
January 30 2014 20:21 GMT
#2650
On January 31 2014 05:06 austinmcc wrote:
Toad could you go over some of the minor things you found in WoS's filter?

Also, do you fully agree with the bullet points Foolishness wrote on marv? You think 100% foolishness knows marv's innermost scum thoughts and has accurately put them in the thread?

I'll have to go back at WoS filter and find those posts if you want me to link them. Mostly the stuff that I mentioned already, phrasing I considered weird, the fact that people gave him confirmed townstatus for doing a lot of posts while gonzaw said that's not the case but it certainly was mentioned in the thread like that, mostly those 2 big posts about VE that I still don't understand how he could have gotten to the conclusion for VE to be town when everything he mentioned was a "this could be both from VE, mafia or town" and ended up on the town conclusion every time for no apparant reason.

About the bullet points from Foo. Not 100% but I see what he's getting at. I know marv a bit, we've been talking in skype a bunch in the past, we've been in games together and we've pm'ed each other a bunch. Long story short I would not put #2 the way he put it but it's onto something. Marv's posting style is a lot more direct when he's town but he doesn't mind laying back if other people do the right stuff imo. The point being is that just like me Marv is someone who feels sorry for people he has to push whenever he rolls mafia and he knows that they're town and putting effort into it (assumption: Marv doesn't hate the guy in question).
Sad thing is, we didn't see a lot of Marv pushing but from what I just said you usally get less direct posts from Marv whenever he's mafia whereas his townposts are just not forgiving towards the person in question.
<Elem> >toad in charge of judging lewdness <Elem> how bad can it be <Elem> also wew, that is actually p lewd.
austinmcc
Profile Joined October 2010
United States6737 Posts
January 30 2014 20:26 GMT
#2651
Do you think, aside for general marv thoughts, that marv has pushed any specific mafia agendas in this game?
Fe fi fo fum.
Toadesstern
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Germany16350 Posts
January 30 2014 20:29 GMT
#2652
On January 31 2014 05:26 austinmcc wrote:
Do you think, aside for general marv thoughts, that marv has pushed any specific mafia agendas in this game?

well throwing shit at me without actually trying to get me lynched is what I'd call mafia agenda.
<Elem> >toad in charge of judging lewdness <Elem> how bad can it be <Elem> also wew, that is actually p lewd.
austinmcc
Profile Joined October 2010
United States6737 Posts
January 30 2014 20:38 GMT
#2653
On January 31 2014 05:29 Toadesstern wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 31 2014 05:26 austinmcc wrote:
Do you think, aside for general marv thoughts, that marv has pushed any specific mafia agendas in this game?

well throwing shit at me without actually trying to get me lynched is what I'd call mafia agenda.
I REALLY HOPE I'M NOT WRONG ABOUT YOU BECAUSE THIS POST ALSO READS SUPER SUPER TOWNIE.
Fe fi fo fum.
Toadesstern
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Germany16350 Posts
January 30 2014 20:45 GMT
#2654
On January 31 2014 05:38 austinmcc wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 31 2014 05:29 Toadesstern wrote:
On January 31 2014 05:26 austinmcc wrote:
Do you think, aside for general marv thoughts, that marv has pushed any specific mafia agendas in this game?

well throwing shit at me without actually trying to get me lynched is what I'd call mafia agenda.
I REALLY HOPE I'M NOT WRONG ABOUT YOU BECAUSE THIS POST ALSO READS SUPER SUPER TOWNIE.

Good thing I'm town I guess?
<Elem> >toad in charge of judging lewdness <Elem> how bad can it be <Elem> also wew, that is actually p lewd.
WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31495 Posts
January 30 2014 20:56 GMT
#2655
WTB day end for today
And move deadline like 2h ltater kthx
twitch.tv/waveofshadow ||| Winner of AHGL's So You Think You Can Cast! ||| Juicy Dad for lyfe ||| 'idk i get a kick out of stupid things' - Jarms Yarng
WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31495 Posts
January 30 2014 20:58 GMT
#2656
Quick somebody look back for me:
Who said that Prome's game beginning was not like LX and why?
I remember agreeing with it but I'm curious
twitch.tv/waveofshadow ||| Winner of AHGL's So You Think You Can Cast! ||| Juicy Dad for lyfe ||| 'idk i get a kick out of stupid things' - Jarms Yarng
Toadesstern
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Germany16350 Posts
January 30 2014 21:04 GMT
#2657
On January 31 2014 05:58 WaveofShadow wrote:
Quick somebody look back for me:
Who said that Prome's game beginning was not like LX and why?
I remember agreeing with it but I'm curious

I think marv, just all-filter ctrl-f "LX"...
<Elem> >toad in charge of judging lewdness <Elem> how bad can it be <Elem> also wew, that is actually p lewd.
Toadesstern
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Germany16350 Posts
January 30 2014 21:05 GMT
#2658
On January 31 2014 06:04 Toadesstern wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 31 2014 05:58 WaveofShadow wrote:
Quick somebody look back for me:
Who said that Prome's game beginning was not like LX and why?
I remember agreeing with it but I'm curious

I think marv, just all-filter ctrl-f "LX"...

or at the very least it does sound like something Marv would say, he knows every game and is the only one who talks a lot about that kind of stuff
<Elem> >toad in charge of judging lewdness <Elem> how bad can it be <Elem> also wew, that is actually p lewd.
WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31495 Posts
January 30 2014 21:05 GMT
#2659
Yeh you might be right.
Another thing to look at later
twitch.tv/waveofshadow ||| Winner of AHGL's So You Think You Can Cast! ||| Juicy Dad for lyfe ||| 'idk i get a kick out of stupid things' - Jarms Yarng
Toadesstern
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Germany16350 Posts
January 30 2014 21:06 GMT
#2660
actually couldn't find it, so probably not marv
<Elem> >toad in charge of judging lewdness <Elem> how bad can it be <Elem> also wew, that is actually p lewd.
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