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On January 30 2014 10:06 austinmcc wrote:Show nested quote +On January 30 2014 09:55 WaveofShadow wrote:On January 30 2014 09:20 austinmcc wrote:On January 30 2014 09:05 WaveofShadow wrote: Welp seems like this game is going to be up to me now. Austin town, Prome scum, that's easy enough. It's the final day that's going to prove difficult. Marv or Toad? How do you feel about Foolishness's anti-case on Toad? Like...really read and explain and whatnot plox? There is much to do. All in good time, sweet austin. I should totes lynch you for picking Trundle though. I love me some trundle right now, except that you pillar CD so long that you can't actually stick on 85% of people. And yet, I've been losing games like crazy unless I ADC. But that is for another day. I'm interested in marv's kita response and your thoughts on Foolishness's Toad bit. I assume I know your thoughts on my thoughts on Toad. I honestly can't remember. And that's why first order of business is to re-read a bunch of the thread.
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I'm back and I'm pretty much the most confirmed townie in the game, right?. We lynch Prome today
##vote Prome
Oh and gg Kita
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Also seems like mafia is trying to get WoS into lylo as the weekest link, was to be expected. Foolishness had him on 3rd most likely mafia, Austin as well and so do I. At the same time WoS had mighty paranoia about me and apparently austin as well. Seems like mafia wants some kind of WoS + either me or Austin lylo + whatever is left after prome, right?' Hoping that one of us gives in and votes ends up voting WoS over Marv?
Pretty much confirms that there's mafia in Marv/Prome/Austin at this point and austin is town, so really keep on lynching
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anyways 3 am over here so that's it from me for now
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On January 30 2014 10:33 Toadesstern wrote: Also seems like mafia is trying to get WoS into lylo as the weekest link, was to be expected. Foolishness had him on 3rd most likely mafia, Austin as well and so do I. At the same time WoS had mighty paranoia about me and apparently austin as well. Seems like mafia wants some kind of WoS + either me or Austin lylo + whatever is left after prome, right?' Hoping that one of us gives in and votes ends up voting WoS over Marv?
Pretty much confirms that there's mafia in Marv/Prome/Austin at this point and austin is town, so really keep on lynching Ehhhhh. Not sure I agree with the way you came to your conclusion, but by Jove I certainly agree with the results! ##Vote: Promethelax
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On January 30 2014 10:33 Toadesstern wrote: Also seems like mafia is trying to get WoS into lylo as the weekest link, was to be expected. Foolishness had him on 3rd most likely mafia, Austin as well and so do I. At the same time WoS had mighty paranoia about me and apparently austin as well. Seems like mafia wants some kind of WoS + either me or Austin lylo + whatever is left after prome, right?' Hoping that one of us gives in and votes ends up voting WoS over Marv?
Pretty much confirms that there's mafia in Marv/Prome/Austin at this point and austin is town, so really keep on lynching ...........................................
There are 5 people alive
There are 2 mafia alive
One of the people alive is you
If you are not mafia
(Then of course there is mafia in marv/prome/austin)
(It's 100% confirmed because of math)
(Toad?)
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On January 30 2014 11:21 austinmcc wrote:Show nested quote +On January 30 2014 10:33 Toadesstern wrote: Also seems like mafia is trying to get WoS into lylo as the weekest link, was to be expected. Foolishness had him on 3rd most likely mafia, Austin as well and so do I. At the same time WoS had mighty paranoia about me and apparently austin as well. Seems like mafia wants some kind of WoS + either me or Austin lylo + whatever is left after prome, right?' Hoping that one of us gives in and votes ends up voting WoS over Marv?
Pretty much confirms that there's mafia in Marv/Prome/Austin at this point and austin is town, so really keep on lynching ........................................... There are 5 people alive There are 2 mafia alive One of the people alive is you If you are not mafia (Then of course there is mafia in marv/prome/austin) (It's 100% confirmed because of math) (Toad?) yeah forgot about kita being dead midway and included him in my calculations. That's why it's Seems like mafia wants some kind of WoS + either me or Austin lylo + whatever is left after prome, right? while "whatever is left" is nothing but Marv. Not really thought through.
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gosh I should not have quoted that entire thing. Anyways off for good in 20 minutes
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FUCK that was my 7k post...
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Hallo Wave. Just been flicking through your filter. You're in luck!
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This post is so compelling. Really seems to take apart how sand approaches playing mafia. + Show Spoiler +On January 30 2014 02:59 kitaman27 wrote:Re: sandroba's vote on Prom day one. The biggest reason that I was hesitant on my suspicion of Prom after pushing him on day one was the 3-3 vote by sandroba. I saw marv mention that sandroba wasn't a player that likes to bus and I kinda assumed it was true as I didn't spend the time to verify this was true. I spent time looking at how sandroba addresses scum buddies at the beginning of the game with the "@" symbol and didn't come to any conclusions, but I never looked at his early game voting record. I'm pretty upset with myself considering what I have found: Show nested quote +On January 21 2012 13:56 sandroba wrote: Fucking hell I had no time to post properly sorry guys =( Show nested quote +On January 17 2012 11:08 sandroba wrote: Also L I recognize that type of play from last game. Who the fuck you think is scum? Nice blabbering and walls of nothing. I'd be up for a L lynch aswel. Show nested quote +On January 18 2012 03:27 sandroba wrote: Still I feel way more confident lynching GGQ or L. Double lynch needs at least 9 more votes to go through and I'd really like to get at least one red killed today. sandroba and L are scum buddies this game. Provides no case, but votes for his scum buddy sinani. Show nested quote +On July 04 2011 01:22 sandroba wrote: Seriously though, we should lynch a townie today. ##Unvote ##Vote: Fishball Show nested quote +On July 04 2011 16:34 sandroba wrote: My assumpstion was that people would change their vote due to the quick bandwagon on fishball. Unfortunatelly that's not how it turned out. I had to take a huge risk to have any possibility of winning this =P Scum buddies with Fishball in a 2 player game. Votes him on day one without much of a case and shows he is willing to take risks early. Show nested quote +On March 03 2012 06:37 sandroba wrote: I'm not lurking, I just don't have the same amount of time that I used to have to play mafia and make big posts. Day one vote against his scum buddy. No case, limited time from sandroba. Show nested quote +On June 30 2011 17:20 sandroba wrote: What the hell, why are you guys voting fishball? The optimal plan is to hang RoL first, let fishball get another check or get shot by the mafia. Then, if he's still alive we hang him day3. Hanging fishball first is just dumb imo. ##Vote: RebirthofLegend There is a dt check on RoL here, but votes are coming in on the dt instead, yet sandroba votes his buddy. Show nested quote +On December 19 2011 16:33 sandroba wrote: So I tried to push annul half heatedly in a slightly scummy way to actually dissuade the people that thought I was scum from voting him, while not really convincing others that didn't find me scummy to vote him. I really had no option but to post very little and don't add much content to annul's case. Had I pushed it full strength I'm pretty sure he would have been lynched day 2 and my team didn't want that. Look at sandroba's explanation for his day two bus on his scum buddy annul. This sounds incredibly similar to this game. Not only is sandroba willing to bus early, he actually does it more often than not!
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Wave, talk to me a bit about how you've ordered your reads. Primarily I'm not quite getting how you've lumped austin into town and I'm outrageously lumped into the remaining suspicious pile. Have you reconciled yourself with the weird shit that austin has done this game?
His, imo, unreasonably strong townread on Toad/Holy based on almost nothing. His attack on Prome for a really weird reason that still no-one has agreed with, and yet for some reason he's particularly suspicious of me for not agreeing with it. The fact he's always come in super-late to push any lynch, on every single day so far. His 100% absurd attack on me for when I said "vote your strongest read" when in context it was fucking obvious I was talking about day 3. I clarified and he continued the attack on the same basis. It's totally absurd that he's really trying to catch me out for being "hypocritical" for day 1 reads and voting compared to day 3 actions.
Anyways, tell me what you're seeing that makes you confident in his alignment, plox.
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I just don't fully buy marv's suspicions and his vote swapping on D1 at the deadline and marv making a comment about voting your strongest scum suspect triggers me poking around that. It's not 1:1, with "but foolishness was your strongest suspect and yet you voted sandroba." That's not valid. But i think that marv's D1 is wonky and his strongest suspect comment set me off. This is nonsensical.
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god I hate being alone in a thread when I'm at work.
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Prome, austin explained well enough in one of his posts why calling the D1 votes "scummy" just isn't right. You really need to flesh that out asap.
On January 29 2014 20:28 Promethelax wrote: We lynch austin tomorrow. This is not even a debate. He had a scummy switch to sand d1 he has played under the radar. He was the only vote not on foolishness d3. Austin's behaviour has been scummy the only reason he wasn't scum is that he and fool were not scum together. How does the bolded relate to the last part of the sentence just before? Why is it scummy anyway? imo the only thing potentially scummy about the vote is that he left it so late in the cycle to get biking. Particularly the really weak justification for austin+Fool not being mafia together is unbelievably convenient now that Fool has flipped town.
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Toad, I can't find anything in your filter that shows me the basis of your austin townread. It seems to be a default. What gives? Why am I default lynch after Prome almost and there's not a lot of other consideration?
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One problem with a possible austin/toad team is that it would be an amazingly ballsy play for austin to have defended Toad like he has all game if they were team-mates. Urgle burgle.
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On January 31 2014 00:20 marvellosity wrote: His, imo, unreasonably strong townread on Toad/Holy based on almost nothing. His attack on Prome for a really weird reason that still no-one has agreed with, and yet for some reason he's particularly suspicious of me for not agreeing with it. The fact he's always come in super-late to push any lynch, on every single day so far. His 100% absurd attack on me for when I said "vote your strongest read" when in context it was fucking obvious I was talking about day 3. I clarified and he continued the attack on the same basis. It's totally absurd that he's really trying to catch me out for being "hypocritical" for day 1 reads and voting compared to day 3 actions. What part of attacking prome and wanting a prome lynch are you referring to here as pretty weird? I think there are a variety of things you find odd, just want to see which.
(Also, there's a shimmering, translucent, kita-shaped specter behind you. It says oooooOOOOoooo OOOO and On January 30 2014 03:05 kitaman27 wrote: marv, do you think Prom + austin makes sense? Or is toad still the other? )
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kita can shimmer all he likes, i'll look at things in the order I think matters. In fairly obvious fashion, digging around at people will make kita's question easier to answer ![](/mirror/smilies/wink.gif)
The reasons for Prome's Wave townread is the thing I'm talking about.
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