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Plutarch, what distinguishes "scum" from "coin-flip"? | ||
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On December 10 2013 06:30 Xatalos wrote: I'd assume he means that lurker = coin-flip. Did you ask merely out of curiosity or for what reason? It was a pretty lackluster statement to make. I want to know if there was any meat to the meaning behind "coin-flip", because its an empty phrase, much like things like WIFOM and scumslip. Empty buzzwords that don't actually find scum but look like you want to find them. | ||
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On December 10 2013 06:43 LSB wrote: ##Vote: purpletrator Scum are mafia pretending to be someone else. Smurfs are players pretending to be someone else. Smurfs = Mafia. Flawless mafia. Lynch all Smurfs You could at least start in alphabetical order. What if I reveal my identity? Would you change your vote to a different smurf? | ||
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On December 10 2013 07:20 raynpelikoneet wrote: If purpletrator can reasonably explain what he is going to achieve with that post i'm going to unvote. Now i gotta sleep! cya tomorrow. Please don't be useless Alakaslam ok? You mean to tell me you have no concern over the erroneous logic LSB used to vote me? You honestly think my response is worse than "smurfs=mafia"? To actually answer your question, I'm wondering why LSB is wasting my time and wanted to see if he's actually trying to get a response or just trolling. When he ignored my response I chalked it up to 'just trolling'. Then you called me out, he noticed my response and now wants to fish for my identity. Now it looks scummy. It was a hypothetical. I'm not revealing my identity. Good to know you dont give a shit about the lynch. ##Vote: LSB | ||
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On December 10 2013 07:29 LSB wrote: Btw for those of you who claim that every game I don't have a plan in I'm a scum, here's a plan Notice this post Notice the lack of millers. This setup is vulnerable to the follow the DT plan where the DT claims and the medics heal him every night. Since flips are open, we just need to make sure we don't accidentally lynch our DT and medic and hypothetically speaking we will have a massive advantage later on in this game where follow the DT shines. Btw DT/Medic plz don't claim. Unless you are about to be lynched. Jim Raynor (Roleblocker) -You're not a Zerg, but you sure as hell hate the UED. Or actually you don't, but Kerrigan is a master at pussywhipping, so you just tag along with her shenanigans and think (because you're told to) you hate the UED. Once per night you can silence a player since you're human looking enough to convince them to put the gun/medicgun/magnifying glass down. [/plan] If we lynch a roleblocker we can look at playing follow the cop I guess | ||
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On December 10 2013 08:42 Xatalos wrote: Alright then. If it's going to be like this, I don't want you alive at LYLO. Start doing something or die. ##Vote kushm4sta Can we appeal to the vig(s) to shoot kush and/or slam for us? | ||
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On December 10 2013 08:53 Xatalos wrote: By the way, purple, your filter is pretty lackluster so far. What have you been doing for all this time? Actively lurking? i went to look at LSB's old games, only actually looked at PYP which is still ongoing and decided I'd seen enough to unvote him. | ||
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He fails to read things properly. I should actually read games where I know his alignment, but I dont see it making a difference tbh. | ||
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On December 10 2013 13:02 Corazon wrote: @Plutarch: Jumping around your vote can be a town thing if you are justifying your votes and your reads, but Xatalos is just jumping around and harping on people for nothing and with no purpose other than to look like he is scum hunting. Case in point: What is the point of this post? Does he think Rayn is scummy because he sleeps? There's no purpose to this post. It's not scum hunting. It's calling out Rayn for sleeping. How does this help us find scum? Also, there is the point that townies believe in their reads and scum don't. If Xatalos believed I was scum, wouldn't he continue to pressure me and push for my lynch? Why does he insist on attacking kush for being kush and attacking Rayn for sleeping? Do you see any purpose to these posts? Is Xatalos trying to find a lynch? In my opinion, he isn't and that's why I voted for him. Cora, do you know rayn's townplay? If so, how would you characterize it? | ||
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My initial read of LSB was that he was scum for throwing a shitty vote down and only following up when rayn pointed it out. He said how he never noticed my offer to reveal my identity, which I didnt think was townie mentality. If he'd seen it and just ignored it, then sure whatever hes just trolling. But to neglect to read the guy your voting, when his post was literally 1 above yours? That seemed messed up to me. On reading his PYP filter he does similar things where he misses key points in peoples posts. I dont want to go into detail because that game is ongoing. | ||
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On December 10 2013 13:21 Plutarch wrote: Purple I would like you to explain the issue you had with my statement clearly. What is lackluster about stating you would rather lynch scum than lurkers in the context of a conversation about lurker policy? It wasnt explicit that you equated coinflip to lurker. It was also a crock of shit in the sense that you cant know with certainty scum vs coinflip. If you want to call it policy, do that. | ||
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On December 10 2013 13:38 Plutarch wrote: It was pretty clear. I also believe you can know scum with such a high probability that it is almost certain, so it really isn't a crock of shit. Regardless I don't see the point in attacking that post at all. What were you trying to gain from doing so? Well since you understood your own post, of course you wont see a point to attacking it. I think it was fake, I just dont know if it was fake or fake | ||
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If you are really okay with a policy lynch, keep doing what you are doing. I dislike that Plutarch has made such efforts to push for Slam's lynch and now decides he has found scum. However, he's not really advocating for spag's lynch and Slam is still set to be lynched. Scummy I have a town-read on Cora. Not that any of this is alignment indicative, but things I seem to get from Cora: A) he doesnt like being antagonized B) he cites B2B as reasoning for disliking lurkers C) he tried to self impose a ban due to the aftermath of B2B This amounts to Cora is very emotional and prone to aggressive outbursts. Also, the initial pressure he received was blown completely out of proportion and I don't find his responses scummy. I especially dislike HolyFlares vote against Cora. I think he misrepresents Cora's opening posts and piles up on the "hypocrisy" point with an out of context post from B2B where Cora didnt just explicitly make an excuse for activity. Can we get the Votecount Spreadsheet edited into the OP so we can get easier access to it? Thank you. | ||
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On December 12 2013 01:59 kushm4sta wrote: speghetti is so funny Is VA referring to VayneAuthority? And if so, what game is Spag reading because Vayne was a mad hatter in LXIII? | ||
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On December 12 2013 02:15 kushm4sta wrote: vayne do you think he is uncatchable as scum? Here are vayne's thoughts on lynching scum Slam: On December 11 2013 13:03 VayneAuthority wrote: I hope he flips town so I am actually justified in saying that he is hindering the game. If he's scum he can do whatever the fuck he wants. Read that portal game by greymist if you want to see how hard it is to lynch this guy as scum. His entire team bussed him and he still barely got lynched. nuff said. Because you have to be asked things in order to get your reads. I have a vested interest in myself, so I thought I would start there. Cora still wondering if you have notes. Also I dont think you ever responded to this question: On December 10 2013 13:08 purpletrator wrote: Cora, do you know rayn's townplay? If so, how would you characterize it? If I missed your answer please point me in the right direction. If I havent, please answer it. | ||
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On December 12 2013 02:21 raynpelikoneet wrote: purpletrator why do you ask specifically Cora about my townplay? You very well know about people on this forum and you also very well know Cora has only played with me in games where i have played absolute shit (Titanic & BttB). So, why are you asking about my townplay from a person who is most likely to misrepresent it? I edited that quote, heres the full one: + Show Spoiler + On December 10 2013 13:08 purpletrator wrote: Cora, do you know rayn's townplay? If so, how would you characterize it? He accused Xata of going after you for sleeping. Thats not why Xata went after you imo. Cora is seeing something that isnt there and I want to know if he has any inclination as to what your usual mode of operation is. I think he's pursuing a target out of OMGUS instead of content and is seeing red because he's hyped up on rage. I was trying to talk him down to get a more objective view of Xata's intentions without explicitly telling him what Xata was doing. | ||
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On December 12 2013 02:51 VayneAuthority wrote: where is the contradiction? You know that I'm pushing him as a mislynch in the thread, killing him as a night kill is pure WIFOM. Completely unrelated. You said you'd never kill him, then you said you'd NK him to make the game more fun for yourself. Direct and absolute contradiction (that I do not find scummy, but its there). | ||
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On December 12 2013 03:00 Corazon wrote: To whomever asked: yes I have notes until page 21. I've been too busy to take notes since then. I will probably pick up with the notes starting D2. Do you want to see them? There are only 3 or so major points in them. One on Spag, one on purple, and one on Vayne It was me, and it was because you'd mentioned it then said you'd make a case on Xata: On December 10 2013 09:55 Corazon wrote: I caught up to the thread and took notes. I must go for an hour and then I will be back with Xatalos case. I find it incredibly odd that Xata isnt in your notes | ||
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On December 12 2013 03:11 raynpelikoneet wrote: Why don't you find that scummy? He originally used that as a reason why he is not mafia (because getting rid of Slam is not beneficial to him in any case) and later on said he does not want to play with "bad" players, which goes against his original justification of himself being town. Because with Vayne, ego>good play | ||
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On December 12 2013 03:11 kushm4sta wrote: slam is geting viged so who cares what he has to say he's actually getting lynched right now and its a really bad lynch. | ||
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On December 12 2013 03:12 kushm4sta wrote: yeah but purpl it's the easiest thing in the world for vayne to act like vayne. You can't townread someone from their egotistic personality. you shouldnt scumread him for it either. | ||
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This notes debacle is alarming | ||
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On December 12 2013 03:19 raynpelikoneet wrote: Do you actually even think about why people say things they do? You don't really seem to be doing that much. That makes you suspicious aswell. I think Vayne is prone to egotistical outbursts. Could he be scum? Yes. Could he be scum for the reason you and JJD are voting him? In my opinion, no. On December 12 2013 03:20 kushm4sta wrote: also purpl why didn't vayne even mention the plan to vig slam instead of lynching him? That is a superior plan. [conspiracy]Because he IS the vig and doesnt want to draw attention[/conspiracy] Vayne, why didnt you mention the plan to vig slam? | ||
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He is almost the same as an RNG lynch. He's so polarizing of a player that there is no analysis to be done on his wagon or the discussions surrounding him. It is a bad lynch. You get no information and statistically a mislynch. | ||
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On December 12 2013 03:48 Plutarch wrote: can you two drop it please. I could lynch Spag or cora. Cora saying he has notes he could post and then not posting them bothers me. This is where I'm at right now. | ||
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On December 12 2013 04:05 Alakaslam wrote: Hey, way back here on page 55? I just noticed something will look false. Please remember: https://mobile.greyhound.com/index.html;jsessionid=CAA7E6176CF0A0AA8B2BCBE9562ED59A.jvm4?0 Slam this isnt even in your persona and it makes no sense. I dont care if you have to put it in code, who are you referring to and why are the ICE? | ||
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sorry, that should have been why are they ice. I understand that ICE=scum and fire=town etc. Right now you are liable to be drowned, not frozen. Do you understand the difference? Also, it is not strictly because you have a persona, it is because you constantly ramble on about where is the ICE/ Do you like ICE without mentioning any particular person(s) who are cold or clouded in shadows. | ||
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##Unvote: Corazon ##Vote: Spaghetticus | ||
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Heavily swayed by On December 12 2013 03:39 Plutarch wrote: I don't think Vsynr contradicting himself like that means he has to be scum. I think it is a null tell. I was hoping some of those who had not commented yet on spag would step up in my absence, but that hasn't really happened. I still think Spag is going to flip scum. And I am surprised that rayn unvoted to be honest. When someone does nothing and does not even try to look for scum despite being active that person is likely to be scum. Even though spag says he always starts slow his previous two town games provide direct counter examples to this. Then when up against it for the lynch he does not provide reads aside from calling kush town. I don't know about you guys but if I was getting lynched as town then I would be desperate to provide as much information to the thread as possible to work off after I flip. Did this happen? no. He in fact provided zero info to the thread and then left as soon as thread sentiment changed. Spag is Scum. Please lynch spag. | ||
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On December 12 2013 05:55 raynpelikoneet wrote: I am pretty sure why he chose me, as either alignment. Because he is either frustrated with me or if he's scum he has to. kush probably because usually Vayne goes with "the first guy who accuses me with nonsense is scum" as town. So again, either town or mimicing his town play. Nothing alignment indicative. I usually leave Vayne be for D1 as it's a crapshoot because you can't really tell his alignment on D1.. yes/no question. Do you think you can confidently read VA before deadline D2? | ||
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Plutarch is the towniest player in the thread. Friendship points for whoever points it out first. | ||
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On December 13 2013 23:47 JarJarDrinks wrote: So none of y'all thinks it's scummy that vayne knows that HF was doubleshot? Vayne's both an egotistical jackass and wrong. | ||
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On December 14 2013 03:10 Corazon wrote: Yeah I'm done playing this game. HF was scummy and all you idiots calling me out for shooting him don't understand what you are talking about. I'm just gonna vote Xatalos until he dies and then Plutarch. Later. I cannot fathom how angry you must be all the time if you are unable to take a step back and consider that HolyFlare LITERALLY flipped town. He thinks you were scummy. Regardless of how you PERSONALLY felt about his attacks, his actions were TOWNY. END OF DISCUSSION. Now, if you want to explain your choice of shot based on you having a town PM and a scum-read on Holy, thats fine in retrospect. However, for you to continue to claim that Holy was scummy and expect us to believe that in the slightest is ridiculous and you should rethink how you portray yourself to the town from here on. You are "confirmed" town. There has been no counterclaim. You have the greatest motive to have shot HolyFlare, you claim to have done it and an "ass-bullet" has been reported. All these things point to you being confirmed town. Despite all this, Plutarch is STILL townier than you are, and he's only semi-confirmed. On December 14 2013 03:12 raynpelikoneet wrote: I could get behind Artanis lynch. He says i have some information i should not have, does not explain it at all, does not address my case on Plutarch at all, but instead accuses me because of it (i don't even know what the hell). Definitely a good lynch. Then we can lynch Plutarch who makes 2 different reads from same posts. Your case is bad and you should feel bad. You're also scum, so you should feel bad. Nice try rayn. You're probably the only player in the game who could reasonably push Plutarch and not get lynched for it. Except you're going to get lynched for it.. Since no one wants my friendship points, Holyflares last post while alive On December 13 2013 05:59 Holyflare wrote: Cora just copied half the shit i wrote in my vote analysis post, claims I'm scum. I'm going to die tonight plu is ma fwend. Lynch cora, artanis, xatalos, bum, grack most of those are scummy ##Vote: raynpelikoneet | ||
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On December 14 2013 03:30 raynpelikoneet wrote: I am scum for thinking someone is scum? Tell me what's wrong in my case. Do you understand mafia does not slip in every post? No mafia has flipped, you can't 100% know who is right and who is bullshitting. Again, what's wrong with my case? Why is everyone just saying "lol Plutarch is town" and not looking a t the case? lol plutarch is town. Refute me. | ||
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Plutarch confirmed town. Now what? | ||
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On December 14 2013 03:51 LSB wrote: WTF is this bullshit about "Top scumreads"? There are people I think are scum, and there are people I think are town. And there are people I don't know. I vote for scum and I don't vote for town We are in disagreement. Since I am bored, tell me if you think Holyflares final post confirms Plutarch as town? | ||
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On December 13 2013 05:59 Holyflare wrote: Cora just copied half the shit i wrote in my vote analysis post, claims I'm scum. I'm going to die tonight plu is ma fwend. Lynch cora, artanis, xatalos, bum, grack most of those are scummy Gee, I wonder who Holyflare (Holyflare the Medic has been shot by an ass-bullet!) decided to protect. Hmmmmmmmm lets all think really really hard about this now guys. I wonder. Who could it be? | ||
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On December 14 2013 04:14 LSB wrote: Because if you are I actually need to take my vote off of you I'm not but you still should take your vote off me <3 | ||
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