On December 10 2013 14:06 Oatsmaster wrote:
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On December 10 2013 14:06 Oatsmaster wrote: im vt what did you try to take? | ||
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Kush, what I would like to see is some KP power for the town, easiest way to flush out lurkers without wasting lynch kp. | ||
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On December 11 2013 00:28 raynpelikoneet wrote: Show nested quote + On December 11 2013 00:23 LSB wrote: Ambulance radio wasn't that bad of an idea considering we verified ticklishmusic. Kush, what I would like to see is some KP power for the town, easiest way to flush out lurkers without wasting lynch kp. Except that we did not verify him. Unless an SK is in the game, taking (basically) killing amounts of KP is good enough of verification for me, unless someone steps up to claim the hit | ||
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On December 11 2013 00:32 jcarlsoniv wrote: Show nested quote + On December 11 2013 00:23 LSB wrote: Ambulance radio wasn't that bad of an idea considering we verified ticklishmusic. Kush, what I would like to see is some KP power for the town, easiest way to flush out lurkers without wasting lynch kp. I just want some sort of investigative capabilities... Parity cop on its own is weak in my mind because it takes a minimum of 2 nights to work. The fact that it was used on me last night is incredibly unfortunate. We have been struggling in a sea of so much unknown for way too long. Having any additional way to actually get accurate alignments would be beyond helpful. I'm just worried that like the crown, the host might suddenly change the item so it only works once. Parity cop would take too long to kick in, but a dayvig would give us valuable information that we can use tomorrow. | ||
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On December 11 2013 00:40 Onegu wrote: Show nested quote + On December 11 2013 00:37 LSB wrote: On December 11 2013 00:28 raynpelikoneet wrote: On December 11 2013 00:23 LSB wrote: Ambulance radio wasn't that bad of an idea considering we verified ticklishmusic. Kush, what I would like to see is some KP power for the town, easiest way to flush out lurkers without wasting lynch kp. Except that we did not verify him. Unless an SK is in the game, taking (basically) killing amounts of KP is good enough of verification for me, unless someone steps up to claim the hit No they are saying he could be mafia who used the faction kp on sandaroba and it got shot back at him. I looked through Sandroba's filter and I don't think I see that he claimed any current HP to suggest the damage (and he also assumes that ticklemusic was shot with something else), and it seems like mafia KP works as an overkill, so I am inclined not to assume that he shot sandroba. | ||
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On December 11 2013 00:51 Mocsta wrote: Show nested quote + On December 11 2013 00:48 LSB wrote: @@ Sandroba Attn plz On December 11 2013 00:40 Onegu wrote: On December 11 2013 00:37 LSB wrote: On December 11 2013 00:28 raynpelikoneet wrote: On December 11 2013 00:23 LSB wrote: Ambulance radio wasn't that bad of an idea considering we verified ticklishmusic. Kush, what I would like to see is some KP power for the town, easiest way to flush out lurkers without wasting lynch kp. Except that we did not verify him. Unless an SK is in the game, taking (basically) killing amounts of KP is good enough of verification for me, unless someone steps up to claim the hit No they are saying he could be mafia who used the faction kp on sandaroba and it got shot back at him. I looked through Sandroba's filter and I don't think I see that he claimed any current HP to suggest the damage (and he also assumes that ticklemusic was shot with something else), and it seems like mafia KP works as an overkill, so I am inclined not to assume that he shot sandroba. Explain: and it seems like mafia KP works as an overkill, On December 10 2013 00:56 sandroba wrote: Ok so that ambulance radio prob doesnt show the overkill that might have happened to chezinu, so that would explain the odd kp number. My guess is that scum prob didn't use anything on me this night. Further, this is dumb LSB (even for you) " and I don't think I see that he claimed any current HP to suggest the damage " If the dmg was reflected, OF COURSE, sandroba would not have been hit for dmg.... Sandroba never claimed that he has 749 HP. | ||
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On December 11 2013 00:59 Koshi wrote: Show nested quote + On December 11 2013 00:49 Mocsta wrote: On December 11 2013 00:40 Koshi wrote: My first item was pretty cool if it had been inthread activated. But like I said hosts changed it and I only knew they had done "slight modifications". If I had known they would make it a night action I would have thought twice giving it to marv. Sad story. I can't make dayvig guns so don't hope for that. I could make a new detective item but I won't. You shall see tomorrow. You won't be impressed. But it's not bad. ehh???? On December 04 2013 17:44 Koshi wrote: Here is the list of items that I sent to the hosts yesterday. Most of them are approved with slight adjustments (read nerfs). My intention was that all these were really items that you hold till the end of the game, some items with passive benefits and then items you have to activate and with a 1/2/3/4 turn CD. But hosts don't want that. If you think you like one of these items let me know and you might get selected. yay! + Show Spoiler + 1. Gem of True Sight The holder is notified everytime somebody visits him. 2. Eul's Scepter of Divinity Puts a cyclone under somebody his ass. Protecting him from any damage and RBs him (Jailer) 3. Dust of Appearance Shows all visitors that visited you or the 2 players around you on the player list. (2 uses) 4. Aegis of the Immortal Revives you when you die with half hp and without debuffs. 5. Ring of Protection Reduces any damage done to you by 50% 6. Dagon lvl 5 Insta gibs somebody. (dayvig gun) 7. Scythe of Vyse Turns your target into a sheep, rbing him. 8. Armlet of Mordiggian Doubles your HP when activated. But you lose 200 HP each cycle. 9. Refresher Orb When activated you can use your night action 2 times in the same night. 10. Urn of Shadows Heal target player for 333 hp each cycle for 5 cycles, if target takes damage it loses the healing buff the next cycle. This item starts with 2 charges and each time a scummer dies you get +1 charge. 11. Mekanism Heals you and the 2 players around you on the player list for 500 hp. 12. Skull Basher Damages target player for 500 damage and also stunning target player. (RB) 13. Talisman of Evasion You have 50% chance to evade all incoming damage. 14. Black King Bar Makes you immune to spells, but not mafia night kp. 15. Ghost Scepter Makes you immune to mafia night kp, but spells do double damage. 16. Shadow Blade When activated you are you immune from damage/spells for 1 turn unless dust is used on you. Or you visit the player that is holding a gem. 17. Pipe of Insight You and the 2 people around you on the player list have a protection shield around you that protects them from maximum 500 damage. Tonight I will look for some more normal items. Like a dayvig dual gun. I would like to make that as well. " Most of them are approved with slight adjustments (read nerfs)." + 6. Dagon lvl 5 Insta gibs somebody. (dayvig gun) That's one that needed slight adjustments (read nerfs). I just asked. Dayvig not happening. Not commenting on it further. Nightvig then? | ||
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On December 11 2013 01:03 Koshi wrote: Show nested quote + On December 11 2013 01:02 LSB wrote: On December 11 2013 00:59 Koshi wrote: On December 11 2013 00:49 Mocsta wrote: On December 11 2013 00:40 Koshi wrote: My first item was pretty cool if it had been inthread activated. But like I said hosts changed it and I only knew they had done "slight modifications". If I had known they would make it a night action I would have thought twice giving it to marv. Sad story. I can't make dayvig guns so don't hope for that. I could make a new detective item but I won't. You shall see tomorrow. You won't be impressed. But it's not bad. ehh???? On December 04 2013 17:44 Koshi wrote: Here is the list of items that I sent to the hosts yesterday. Most of them are approved with slight adjustments (read nerfs). My intention was that all these were really items that you hold till the end of the game, some items with passive benefits and then items you have to activate and with a 1/2/3/4 turn CD. But hosts don't want that. If you think you like one of these items let me know and you might get selected. yay! + Show Spoiler + 1. Gem of True Sight The holder is notified everytime somebody visits him. 2. Eul's Scepter of Divinity Puts a cyclone under somebody his ass. Protecting him from any damage and RBs him (Jailer) 3. Dust of Appearance Shows all visitors that visited you or the 2 players around you on the player list. (2 uses) 4. Aegis of the Immortal Revives you when you die with half hp and without debuffs. 5. Ring of Protection Reduces any damage done to you by 50% 6. Dagon lvl 5 Insta gibs somebody. (dayvig gun) 7. Scythe of Vyse Turns your target into a sheep, rbing him. 8. Armlet of Mordiggian Doubles your HP when activated. But you lose 200 HP each cycle. 9. Refresher Orb When activated you can use your night action 2 times in the same night. 10. Urn of Shadows Heal target player for 333 hp each cycle for 5 cycles, if target takes damage it loses the healing buff the next cycle. This item starts with 2 charges and each time a scummer dies you get +1 charge. 11. Mekanism Heals you and the 2 players around you on the player list for 500 hp. 12. Skull Basher Damages target player for 500 damage and also stunning target player. (RB) 13. Talisman of Evasion You have 50% chance to evade all incoming damage. 14. Black King Bar Makes you immune to spells, but not mafia night kp. 15. Ghost Scepter Makes you immune to mafia night kp, but spells do double damage. 16. Shadow Blade When activated you are you immune from damage/spells for 1 turn unless dust is used on you. Or you visit the player that is holding a gem. 17. Pipe of Insight You and the 2 people around you on the player list have a protection shield around you that protects them from maximum 500 damage. Tonight I will look for some more normal items. Like a dayvig dual gun. I would like to make that as well. " Most of them are approved with slight adjustments (read nerfs)." + 6. Dagon lvl 5 Insta gibs somebody. (dayvig gun) That's one that needed slight adjustments (read nerfs). I just asked. Dayvig not happening. Not commenting on it further. Nightvig then? Yes, that works. See item 1. Btw was your Dust of Appearance approved? Being able to watch two people at once seems to be pretty good too | ||
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On December 11 2013 02:32 raynpelikoneet wrote: Show nested quote + On December 11 2013 02:22 sandroba wrote: rayn, there are perfectly plausible reasoning to explain why koshi did everything he did as town too. I think you should just give him a little more time. If he is town scum is bound to kill him soonish. No sandroba, there really isn't. Only real reads Koshi has had in this game were OdinOfPergo and MZ and when MZ-lynch was talked about Koshi said MZ wasn't even his scumread. If we let alone his role use and stuff regarding that Koshi has been entirely useless all game. Although slightly useless, his inventions have helped the town to a certain degree so I'm inclined to keep him around and go after more likely canidates | ||
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On December 11 2013 02:42 Mig wrote: LSB who do you think is mafia? You pop in to make comments on random things like inventions quite a bit but I don't really see you commenting on who is scum. Give me like 4-5 hours or so. Been sporadic due to finals, but I don't want to be completely out of the loop of things really | ||
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Things we know that Mafia has: Kassadin + roleblocker, had Ziggs | ||
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On December 11 2013 06:13 Mig wrote: Well no point in arguing a lot about it, but I would just ask yourself if you think mafia is going to shoot you tonight. (the answer is probably no). If you are mafia then disregard. LSB/MZ neither of you have claimed your second powers. What are they? On December 02 2013 13:20 LSB wrote: I have a defensive ability too, just it isn't relevant in any way shape or form to what my night actions or optimal town actions are I'll get to analysis after the day post. Might as well wait the few hours so I don't look stupid calling a dead townie mafia. | ||
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On December 11 2013 09:10 raynpelikoneet wrote: Why would mafia!MZ use mirror image on N1? Like did he assume town will hit him with something like 1000 KP? He DID indeed use it, correct? as someone shot him. There is no way we can verify if he used it, and if he is mafia, it wouldn't be a stretch to lie about using it | ||
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On December 11 2013 09:16 supersoft wrote: Show nested quote + On December 11 2013 09:14 supersoft wrote: On December 11 2013 09:13 justanothertownie wrote: On December 11 2013 09:10 raynpelikoneet wrote: Why would mafia!MZ use mirror image on N1? Like did he assume town will hit him with something like 1000 KP? He DID indeed use it, correct? as someone shot him. How can you know he used it? we know it. people claimed to have hit him and he took no damage. in fact mig tried to hit him. at least he didnt claim it right away and then sticked with the story he didnt took any, which fits his role... LSB is obviously correct: if he's scum, he could have lied about it all. However i don't see the benefit of lying about such a simple thing, since taking damage doesn't incriminate him. so he had no reason to hide that damage. Simply having a clone in an unexpected situation (such as night 2, which could be another explanation for the crown thing, in addition to roleblocking) is always valuable. If I were a mafia Wukong I would probably try to claim I used my clone ability quickly so I could dodge a town vig who wouldn't have shot me if he thought I had my clones The reason why I am so cautious is due to Mig focusing Meepak On December 10 2013 12:33 Mig wrote: Mz - n1 I got 825 back as my result. N-2 I got nothing back so my shot did not hit you. Either it was stopped or you were protected. coag didnt have to post in the thread so seems he was just being a monkey. Does anyone have the updated sign up list? Need to see who else is going to take damage. I find it odd that Mig was unable to use his second action, and probably one of the strangest things that went on last night. If Mig hit meepak and returned an odd HP number, I think MZ would be under even more serious suspicion. Anyways, it'd be best to wait for the day post for more information on this | ||
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On December 11 2013 09:25 justanothertownie wrote: One of the questions is - how likely is it that Mig got a hp value back if he hit a clone? Not very likely I think. More likely that Mig hit a clone N2 and got no HP value back. Correct me if I am wrong. Last time I tried to ask hosts clarification questions all I got back were question marks in big bloded blue | ||
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On December 11 2013 09:29 raynpelikoneet wrote: Show nested quote + On December 10 2013 22:48 Mid or Feed wrote: On December 10 2013 12:46 Mig wrote: would a role block prevent an inventors item from working or just that players powers Yes Don't talk bullshit please. Neither Fuba's power nor the item use went through. Why are you talking bullshit LSB? Explain this post then On December 10 2013 12:33 Mig wrote: Mz - n1 I got 825 back as my result. N-2 I got nothing back so my shot did not hit you. Either it was stopped or you were protected. coag didnt have to post in the thread so seems he was just being a monkey. Does anyone have the updated sign up list? Need to see who else is going to take damage. | ||
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The major reason why I think jaybrundage is scum is due to his day two play. And his odd push on Austinmcc and drawing the heat off of MZ The strangest part of jaybrundage's play is what he did during the day two lynch. Instead of focusing on major lynch targets who were being suspected of scum, he tried to focus town discussion on Austinmcc and Roffles, two lurkers On December 07 2013 10:12 jaybrundage wrote: KK lets talk on consolidating on Roffles or austin. If your town you should get off the MZ wagon. Letting there be three wagons lets scum manipulate it much easier. We should narrow this down between 2 people. I'm still on the fence regarding the two. But MZ should NOT be a lynch candidate today. This is pretty suspicious, no only because a vote between two lurkers is not a very informative discussion (it just boils down to a this person is lurking harder than the other), but really jaybrundage shows he really doesn't care about who gets lynched day 2. Consider the tone between these two posts On December 05 2013 14:43 jaybrundage wrote: Show nested quote + On December 05 2013 14:33 Rean wrote: On December 05 2013 14:28 jaybrundage wrote: On December 05 2013 14:17 Rean wrote: On December 05 2013 14:14 jaybrundage wrote: On December 05 2013 14:02 raynpelikoneet wrote: On December 05 2013 13:58 Rean wrote: @Rayn, I "shot" (50 KP is barely worthy of that term when people have over fifteen times the hp) Austinmcc for his filter, not my question. His filter is full of reads but at no point did I get the impression that he's actually trying to get people lynched rather than just giving out reads on anything he can find. Yes and your filter lacks even that. Why didn't you shoot yourself? By your definition you are 1000x scummier than austin. Why didn't you shoot Coag? Also you have yet to give the scumreads. You have been here. You have been reading. I am expecting at least 3 scumreads with reasoning. Other people than lurkers. Hmm I was gonna defend Rean. But I took a quick gander at his filter and I understand why your going after him. While I liked his early posts his posts have continued to stay contentless. Rean DO SOMETHING. Look thru some filters make a case. Your dead weight for town atm. How's that grass tasting today? Are you kidding? Your not even going to try to play this game to the best of your ability. You gonna make a dumb sheep joke that's not even relevant. I was planning to defend you because I thought your Doublelift impersonations were genuine. In a post an hour ago or so I told Rayn that you were town and to lay off you. But you obvious need the pressure. While you may be town. You have contributed close to nothing. Rayn has everyone right to be pressuring you. Hows this for sheep ##Vote Rean Oh and by the way the grass tastes like shit or maybe that's just your posting. Why so tense? It's just a joke, no need to flip your shit ![]() I already told you who I think is mafia. But if you'd like a reminder: ##Vote: Austinmcc Im a bit annoyed because you don't seem to be trying. Your case on austin seems nonexistent. Hes a lurker you asked him a question and you called him scum. My only thinking that you could have any validity to your case on austin is if you have a blue roll that gives you a check. But even then it would have been in the day time and that seems unlikely. Please try..... Plz? On December 07 2013 10:17 jaybrundage wrote: Fuck it lets kill Austin. He should give us way more information. Because he made more reads (even if there town reads) as opposed to roffles who has said jack shit. We should just take care of Roffles via KP. He is lurking hardcore and he is playing anti town as shit. His death gives us nothing to go off of. I wouldn't be surprised if austin and Roffles are both on scum team. And they send roffles out to be a distraction to both get heat off austin and if we lynch austin its unlikely we will lynch roffles because the stereotype is that hes just a anti town trolling townie instead of a scum making plays. ##Unvote ##VOTE AUSTINMCC Although Jaybrundage doesn't outright say it. He really doesn't care about the current lynch, in fact his major reasons for the lynch are 1) Austin gave out a lot of town reads (pretty hypocritical considering how many townreads Jaybrundage threw out himself). 2) Austin will give out a lot of 'valuable information' Information lynches are horrible because they are a misnomer, they don't give out any information at all. If Ausitn is town, no information is gleaned. If Austin is scum no information is gleaned. It is all to likely that the town is misguided or the mafia is bussed. In addition Jaybrundage misrepresented Austin's filter, austin got in trouble not because of all his town reads, but rather how he went around doing his scum reads. To call Austin's filter a mess of town reads is not just an over-exaggeration it is a complete misrepresentation. This is very indicative of forcing analysis and suggests he has an alternative agenda Indeed Jaybrundage has a lot of difficulty in saying why austin is scum, most of his points rely on the so called information that can be gained from lynching austin (and what information is that now that austin has flipped?). What he is more interested in is defending Meepak_Ziphh Even in his case against austin he can't but help go on a long tangent about why Meepak is town On December 07 2013 10:54 jaybrundage wrote: Yea just finished reading MZ's filter I think that hes probably town he sounds sincere in alot of his posts. And austin is scum. Part of the reason why I think austin is scum is the first part of the game He SOLELY (hyberbole) gives town reads. He gives town read after town read after town read. This is very easy for scum to do. They know who's town so they can go off little things in posts to try to establish rap with other townies. (if he thinks im town he must be town reading me line of thinking) He then harps on MZ for bothering Koshi. Yes MZ is constantly bugging Koshi. I think the reason for MZ's tunneling Koshi is a couple reasons. A. MZ thinks Koshi might be scum. B. Koshi is inventor so he can make sweet stuff that ideally would be given to townies. C. Koshi being inventor IS NOT ALIGNMENT INDICATIVE D. Koshi is not contributing much to scum hunting E Koshi being scum in MZ's eyes and is being ignored as a lynch candidate because of his Power Is driving MZcrazy and makes it keep coming back to Koshi to put pressure on him. That is my idea why MZ kept bothering Koshi even tho hes not a lynch candidate atm. I think this is the real reason why Jaybrundage wanted to lynch austin. He wants to draw the heat away from Meepak_Ziphh. However he tries to do it indirectly by forcing a lynch on Austin and in doing so demonstrates that he is forcing a lynch, as well as demonstrating that he doesn't care about the lynch in the first place. | ||
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On December 11 2013 12:33 Mocsta wrote: Known DMG Ticklish: >101 dmg (down 749/850) VE: > 700 dmg (down 300/1000) Fuba: > 450dmg (down 400/850) Rean: ??? Mocsta: 150 dmg JL: 500 dmg (250 from sandroba; 125 from Mig, 125 from ?Fuba?) MZ: 150dmg (may have 75 from sandroba) MZ/Rean/Roffles/LSB: 75dmg (from sandroba) JAT: KP --> ??? I took no damage, and from how sandroba phrases it it is distributed completely at random | ||
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