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On October 23 2013 23:20 marvellosity wrote:Show nested quote +On October 23 2013 23:17 istandwithmitt wrote:On October 23 2013 23:11 marvellosity wrote:On October 23 2013 23:03 istandwithmitt wrote:On October 23 2013 22:27 marvellosity wrote:On October 23 2013 22:26 istandwithmitt wrote:On October 23 2013 22:24 marvellosity wrote:On October 23 2013 22:00 istandwithmitt wrote:
That should be a mafia win not a draw. If number of mafia = number of other players during a day that's the end of the game for mafia.
I actually posted this then edited it out because I realised I was wrong. owb was a multi-shot vigilante and so could have shot mafia at the time he was shot by mafia. People worry way too much about the exact wording in the OP, when using common sense to work out what would happen is almost always the right way. The only reason there's the # of mafia = # of town rule is to rule out stupid vote races based on who's online when. Exactly. If its 2:1 town:mafia, then town isn't actually encouraged to vote for mafia nor is mafia to kill the following night in the case of a NL. That should 100% be a mafia victory. What are you talking about? Town is obviously encouraged to vote in a 2:1 situation, otherwise a 2:1 situation becomes a 1:1 situation. Literally the *only* situation that mafia does NOT win in this 1:1 situation is the EXACT situation that occurred in this game - where the remaining townie has bullets to shoot at the mafia. Not very. In a 2:1 situation, town could vote, mislynch, & have the other townie killed off resulting in a mafia victory. All things equal that's a 67% chance of happening & resulting in a scum win. If they no lynch & one of them is killed off the next day, the vote race (while dumb) results in a 50% chance of a scum win. That's why 1:1 situations are resolved as scum wins. Not to mention that usually in a 1:1 situation it wouldn't be possible to have a majority vote but I think we were playing plurality which is usually also bad. The 1:1 situation this game is a special situation because the townie has a gun pretty sure i already explained this. I think we're done here. That's still dumb. Town has a 33% chance of winning, tying, or losing in LYLO lmao. In MYLO, it's a 25% chance of winning , 50% chance of a vote race, or a 25% chance of a tie. Allowing vote racing OR calling things a tie "because a townie has a gun" is dumb & favors town way over scum. It's nothing to do with "favouring" You disallow vote-races because that relies on when people are physically online, which is an outside-of-game commodity/chance Therefore it goes to night actions, where both players have guns to shoot each other with, which they obviously will. It's really, really, really simple.
In LYNCH OR LOSE, town has a 33% chance of winning, tying, or losing. With no vig, they have a 50% chance of tying by not lynching.
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On October 23 2013 23:31 marvellosity wrote:Show nested quote +On October 23 2013 23:25 istandwithmitt wrote:On October 23 2013 23:20 marvellosity wrote:On October 23 2013 23:17 istandwithmitt wrote:On October 23 2013 23:11 marvellosity wrote:On October 23 2013 23:03 istandwithmitt wrote:On October 23 2013 22:27 marvellosity wrote:On October 23 2013 22:26 istandwithmitt wrote:On October 23 2013 22:24 marvellosity wrote:On October 23 2013 22:00 istandwithmitt wrote:
That should be a mafia win not a draw. If number of mafia = number of other players during a day that's the end of the game for mafia.
I actually posted this then edited it out because I realised I was wrong. owb was a multi-shot vigilante and so could have shot mafia at the time he was shot by mafia. People worry way too much about the exact wording in the OP, when using common sense to work out what would happen is almost always the right way. The only reason there's the # of mafia = # of town rule is to rule out stupid vote races based on who's online when. Exactly. If its 2:1 town:mafia, then town isn't actually encouraged to vote for mafia nor is mafia to kill the following night in the case of a NL. That should 100% be a mafia victory. What are you talking about? Town is obviously encouraged to vote in a 2:1 situation, otherwise a 2:1 situation becomes a 1:1 situation. Literally the *only* situation that mafia does NOT win in this 1:1 situation is the EXACT situation that occurred in this game - where the remaining townie has bullets to shoot at the mafia. Not very. In a 2:1 situation, town could vote, mislynch, & have the other townie killed off resulting in a mafia victory. All things equal that's a 67% chance of happening & resulting in a scum win. If they no lynch & one of them is killed off the next day, the vote race (while dumb) results in a 50% chance of a scum win. That's why 1:1 situations are resolved as scum wins. Not to mention that usually in a 1:1 situation it wouldn't be possible to have a majority vote but I think we were playing plurality which is usually also bad. The 1:1 situation this game is a special situation because the townie has a gun pretty sure i already explained this. I think we're done here. That's still dumb. Town has a 33% chance of winning, tying, or losing in LYLO lmao. In MYLO, it's a 25% chance of winning , 50% chance of a vote race, or a 25% chance of a tie. Allowing vote racing OR calling things a tie "because a townie has a gun" is dumb & favors town way over scum. It's nothing to do with "favouring" You disallow vote-races because that relies on when people are physically online, which is an outside-of-game commodity/chance Therefore it goes to night actions, where both players have guns to shoot each other with, which they obviously will. It's really, really, really simple. In LYNCH OR LOSE, town has a 33% chance of winning, tying, or losing. With no vig, they have a 50% chance of tying by not lynching. Town loses 100% of the time by not lynching if they have no vigi - it goes to 1-1, no voting, then mafia kills the townie at night Once again, town having a vigi alive at the end of the game is a unique situation.
But the townie has a gun
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On October 23 2013 23:37 Mocsta wrote:
I Stand With Mitt
This conversation is pointless.
Whether the game should have ended in a mafia victory or draw.
YOU LOST !
As an important aside:
The people commenting on this game that did not play int his game are pretty experienced fellows when it comes to mafia. Many have hosted several games and do know what they are talking about.
Anyways, hope you enjoyed playing, and theres another newbie with signups ready, if you have not joined yet.
Yeah I know I lost but the rest of the town think they tied lol
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On October 24 2013 00:00 Mocsta wrote:
Well, town got a victory.
I am saying "YOU LOST"
(1) barely used coaching
(2) failed using the most powerful weapon a townie has - their vote
(3) chose to participate in the game in a manner which would alienate you
But do not despair; there are many things you can improve upon, as long as you want to improve. \
Town didn't get a victory. They "got a tie."
It's fine if you all want to be rude to me but I'm just trying to put out some constructive criticisms so you can have better games in the future. If you don't like it you can respond to my actual criticism rather than attacking me personally.
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On October 24 2013 00:12 Mocsta wrote:Show nested quote +On October 24 2013 00:09 istandwithmitt wrote:On October 24 2013 00:00 Mocsta wrote:
Well, town got a victory.
I am saying "YOU LOST"
(1) barely used coaching
(2) failed using the most powerful weapon a townie has - their vote
(3) chose to participate in the game in a manner which would alienate you
But do not despair; there are many things you can improve upon, as long as you want to improve. \ Town didn't get a victory. They "got a tie." It's fine if you all want to be rude to me but I'm just trying to put out some constructive criticisms so you can have better games in the future. If you don't like it you can respond to my actual criticism rather than attacking me personally. Whose being rude? You clearly do not have thick skin. According to this: you want to share constructive criticism, but will not reciprocate by receiving?
You're responding to my criticisms of the game by being critical of me. Like I said, that's fine but don't pretend like I'm wrong because you didn't like the way I played.
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