EPTThis is my first SK scenario, so i'm just theorycrafting here. I think it's better to do our best to make sure we don't get an innocent townie lynched over worrying about killing SK versus Mafia.
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This is my first SK scenario, so i'm just theorycrafting here. I think it's better to do our best to make sure we don't get an innocent townie lynched over worrying about killing SK versus Mafia. | ||
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Yes, SagaZ was clearly being careful with his vote. July could have possibly been being careful with his vote AS SCUM by not switching to Vonthin when he knew Vonthin was town, disagreeing with the vote to kill vonthin just makes his position set and thus even more careful. If he's town, he's not being careful I agree, but I just think you're not seeing the angle I'm seeing. As far as the weak E00e attack... yeah it might be weak, but at least it's something. I'm glad you can see the future and play out all the situations in your head beforehand. And even if you see an easy defense, it's possible that player doesn't see it. Always good to apply pressure, however weak. | ||
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On October 18 2013 06:53 onlywonderboy wrote: How do we know there's no vig? I'm rereading the role and it says they "may" choose a player to kill, it's possible they just didn't use their power. yeah you're right.. i didn't mean it in that way, i just wanted to deflect the thought that either of the kills could have been made by a vigi | ||
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I did forget to put him in my post about people i've played with before so yeah... fwiw i shared my info on him later. | ||
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Ever since last game when Koshi took over Blurry's character and he started questioning everything and posting every thought that's how I've taken to playing the game. It's a very conducive way for town to play and makes it hard for mafia to not play. Granted, I'm not very good at it yet, especially since I'm not getting others to play like it either. I get my thoughts out as I can and I ask questions upon everyone, especially when they are active. So far, only confirmed townies have answered my questions, which sucks. I believe my posts clearly show that i'm trying to process the information. Especially at the beginning of day2. I want to hear what people think, I don't want them to sit around not posting what they are thinking. @July: You need a defense too dude. Plenty of people have questioned you. | ||
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At this point you have both slid through with minimal defense and minimal opinions of your own. July, GGtemplar has a theory on you. Please provide some insight on some of the actions he points out. Nyx... there's been theories on you since day1 and very few of them have been defended by you. They are relevant now. How else can we possibly make a confident lynch now (which we need 100%) without all the suspicious people posting defenses? | ||
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I've been trying my best to do so and everybody else should be too. You will have more fun! Seriously. Sorry for the somewhat offtopicness, but i'm impressed is all ^_^ | ||
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On October 18 2013 13:46 istandwithmitt wrote: You guys need to seriously start making shorter posts. Who was the guy who scumslipped at the beginning of the day? We should lynch him. Falling back into old habits, eh? | ||
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On October 18 2013 15:58 istandwithmitt wrote: The guy who was like "woah there has to be an SK because playerboy died" when there's no way to differentiate scum/SK or a vig kill. Obviously knew that the other kill was from the mafia. I can go back & look but~~ @istandwithmitt: You realize that the person who did that (Bereft) is very likely confirmed town, unless he's lying about his RB or a townie roleblocked him, and it's been a whole 24hours with no counter claims so that chance goes up even higher. Plus, there's certainly a way to differentiate between vig kill and other kills just based on information you have elsewhere. On top of that, the possible slip was because he assumed playerboy was killed by SK and mafia killed Odin right away. Regardless, it doesn't matter, since he was roleblocked. Do you really think it's reasonable to not believe the roleblock with no counter-claims? On October 18 2013 22:18 Bereft wrote: this post is bizarre. why would I post a rebuttal to my own case? to do so would only feed Balla material for his own defense. I did explicitly state that if fellow townies disagreed with me and felt that they could see themselves doing the same thing to let me know. what's your opinion on this? do YOU think it's a scum slip or a justified course of action for town? On top of that, he's literally doing exactly what you deemed as a scum slip to vote me. Except even I wouldn't interrupt a case like that. His next post is odd too, don't you think? On October 18 2013 14:29 July617 wrote: Nyx and mitt's voting style is going to screw with town if they are town, and my thought's are that i'm sure they are 70% town, why? Simply because of the bad voting style, would mafia (if they were) vote so poorly? This is a contradiction in itself. If their voting styles are bad and will screw with town, then they are mafia because they aren't helping town? What? That's like saying "man this guys posting sucks and he's really not pro-town, so he's probably not scum because scum would think better". No. That's not logical. How do you hunt for scum then July, pls explain? | ||
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On October 18 2013 16:40 nyxnyxnyx wrote: i'm a vanilla townie, for realsies. voting me out would end the game right away, though i will go along with the vote if you and Bereft agree on it. Seuss... i'm on board and I think you just need a bit more support to get things rolling. I'm very comfortable using my vote like this as there is a good 10 hours or so before the vote. I realize that I am under heavy suspicion right now and casting my vote first even before other supposed townies is strange, but we need to get discussion started. ##vote: nyxnyxnyx Nyx, this defense is even worse than no defense. You haven't said anything in regards to the night actions, and your accusations on day2 (hell you didn't even say much about your accusations on day1). Gives us more. | ||
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I only wanted to use my vote as a pressure vote and you trying to start a train like this makes it hard. | ||
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The odd thing is which I think they didn't think about was that roleblocking you would confirm you. Why confirm a strong townie over a weaker one like OWB? It's clear they thought you were a blue. | ||
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On October 19 2013 00:48 istandwithmitt wrote: @Balla: there's no reason to blindly believe a roleblock claim. It's weird that he would claim in the first place (do vanillas get roleblocked??). I think his slipping wrt claim is the scummiest thing to happen in the game so far & I don't get it if you guys don't agree. ##unvote ##vote: Bereft Just to clarify: if you are roleblocked you get a PM saying "You have been roleblocked" regardless of whether or not you have a role or how many people roleblocked you. For all we know he was roleblocked multiple times and a townie is not calling it. It's for this reason if you are RB'ed you should claim it, because it can possibly clear two townies. It's only a slip if he is scum. He already explained his gut reaction that explains it. After that it's up to you to decide whether it was a scum slip or genuinely a gut reaction. I think it was a gut reaction for sure. | ||
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On October 19 2013 00:55 E00e wrote: @Balla I just put my vote on the person im most certain and your post reminded me of voting. I dont think its a bandwagon if you have this much time left to change the votes. On the first day I actually voted on Nyx before you (being the second person after Vonthin) and you then said you agreed with me. Isnt it strange you would get that wrong? Ah you're right after I go back again lol. I went back and saw my big post and assumed I had voted then. My bad T_T | ||
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On October 19 2013 01:16 onlywonderboy wrote: This post actually makes me believe SagaZ is town. He's right, I've been been way too quiet and have been coasting for most of this game. I've been quick to follow Seuss because he's town and I know he's an incredibly analytic thinker, but that's way too passive play and doesn't really do much to help the town. I tried to get some discussion going with differentiating the mafia/SK kill, but that broke down quick and it turned out I was likely wrong. Honestly I'm as surprised as him I'm flown under the radar and really that's just bad play on my part. I'm still working on rereading the pages to try and get more scum tells, but I can at least put forth I think SagaZ is town based off this post. Gah... OWB you are literally the most bland townie player ever haha. You shouldn't have backed down from your pressure just because he calls you out. Stop being a pussy man ^_^. | ||
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