On September 16 2013 01:19 Koshi wrote:
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LOL. I'm an idiot.
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On September 16 2013 01:19 Koshi wrote: !!! LOL. I'm an idiot. | ||
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Point one is weaker, but there still are a couple of quotes that show a friendly attitude towards me. Points 2-4 still stand | ||
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On September 16 2013 01:25 raynpelikoneet wrote: Show nested quote + On September 16 2013 01:22 Papa_Smurf wrote: On September 16 2013 01:20 raynpelikoneet wrote: I like the wortd misrepresentive meta-case and how that makes kush scum. I remember someone thinking the opposite on last time when there was a misrepresentive meta-case. hmm.. and when was this? lol are u talking about SnB's case? Cuz you thought it was accurate | ||
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On September 16 2013 01:26 Koshi wrote: What does PS Stand for At the Bottom of a Letter? Answer At the bottom of a letter, you may see P.S, which stands for post-scriptum or post-script. This is a Latin term indicating something that is written after the script. It could be something which is an afterthought or something that was deliberately left off the main body of the letter. What is a meta-analysis? A meta-analysis is a type of research study in which the researcher compiles numerous previously published studies on a particular research question[/u] and re-analyzes the results to find the [u]general trend for results across the studies. Thought you could use this definition as well | ||
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On September 16 2013 01:28 raynpelikoneet wrote: Show nested quote + On September 16 2013 01:26 Papa_Smurf wrote: On September 16 2013 01:25 raynpelikoneet wrote: On September 16 2013 01:22 Papa_Smurf wrote: On September 16 2013 01:20 raynpelikoneet wrote: I like the wortd misrepresentive meta-case and how that makes kush scum. I remember someone thinking the opposite on last time when there was a misrepresentive meta-case. hmm.. and when was this? lol are u talking about SnB's case? Cuz you thought it was accurate Yeah it is accurate. And you doged the question about the fact in the case that is not accurate and you very well know it. Lol. Therefore the meta case itself was not misrepresentative. It was his use of the meta case that was. I showed that kush's actual meta case was misrepresentative, not just his use of it. | ||
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On September 16 2013 01:29 Koshi wrote: Show nested quote + 2) Koshi still has not offered his own case or reasoning on why I am scum 3) Koshi is waiting for other people to show I'm scum, rather than himself 4) Koshi finds kush town off an incredibly bad and misrepresentative meta cased that has 1 quote from 2 different games each, and thinks its a damning case against me. Koshi is scum 2) I was on the wrong track. I thought others were scummers. 3) I can't help it others are so friendly that they pointed it out. 3b) I can't help it I am so friendly that I let OP prove you are scum so he can save himself. 4) That's how you read tha kushm4st3r To Quote Dandel Ion Who has pointed anything out that shows I'm scummy? Kush's meat case? That's dogshit | ||
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On August 29 2013 13:26 debears wrote: Also, a 95% town read is full retard early d1 is full retard as town. As scum, its dumb but it has motivations (avoid early conflict, make friend of someone who apparently is consider3d bad town). Vote scribs guise Oh look, an early strong town read from the person I voted on. did I do that this game? On August 30 2013 07:54 debears wrote: Show nested quote + On August 30 2013 07:41 Hapahauli wrote: On August 30 2013 07:38 debears wrote: On August 30 2013 06:52 Hapahauli wrote: Hell can anyone comment on my Syl case above? I'm starting to agree with myself more and more :3 Get on the love train Hapa xD I have scum-reads on both Syl and Hopeless at this point. The problem is that they're not talking enough >> You do raise what seem like valid points on Hopeless. I'm sticking with Syl since I've actually read his stuff. The one thing about Onegu is that he makes that summary post for his first post, which is fine. Yet, he doesn't hit the main events. It seems to me like he was nitpicking stuff he could just easily chime in about without further exploring. On the other side, his location makes it hard to communicate. And apparently he does this most games. -.- I would think one of Onegu/Syl is scum. Oh wow. Two lurkers are two of my main suspects d1. Overly simplistic reads. Were both of those guys scum in desert? On September 06 2013 11:18 debears wrote: Show nested quote + On September 06 2013 10:38 ObviousOne wrote: Voting debears, there's no way he should even be functional if he's not reading the thread without some kind of assistance. ##Vote: debears Also I think he tried something like this shit back in Nomination Mafia and he was scum there. ##Nirvana Stirke: ObviousOne This guys is the scum. Lynching for "functionality" and not scum Oh look, overly simplistic read. Was this guy scum? | ||
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On September 16 2013 01:36 Koshi wrote: Show nested quote + On September 16 2013 01:33 Papa_Smurf wrote: On September 16 2013 01:29 Koshi wrote: 2) Koshi still has not offered his own case or reasoning on why I am scum 3) Koshi is waiting for other people to show I'm scum, rather than himself 4) Koshi finds kush town off an incredibly bad and misrepresentative meta cased that has 1 quote from 2 different games each, and thinks its a damning case against me. Koshi is scum 2) I was on the wrong track. I thought others were scummers. 3) I can't help it others are so friendly that they pointed it out. 3b) I can't help it I am so friendly that I let OP prove you are scum so he can save himself. 4) That's how you read tha kushm4st3r To Quote Dandel Ion Meta bitch Meta meta M E T A Who has pointed anything out that shows I'm scummy? Kush's meat case? That's dogshit Oats, rayn and Kush have been on your ass. Maybe not in big shiny cases. But now that Pandain isn't scum or at least high on my scumlist, you just are. I am sorry. No need to be mad. But if you are going to yell I am scum and Kush is scum. I am going to think you are scum :D You will get lynched long before I do. | ||
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why didnt kush use my two last town games for his meta case? I took a 3 month break from mafia, so my play could have changed. Did they not fit into his "meta" case, so he just ignored them? Why would he do that? | ||
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On September 16 2013 01:44 kushm4sta wrote: rofl ps so mad now. Show nested quote + On September 16 2013 01:40 Papa_Smurf wrote: why didnt kush use my two last town games for his meta case? i used the latest towngame that was on your profile that's why. but yeah this is what it looks like when a scum panics. about to defend my metacase hold on k I'll wait for this. How long is this gonna take, I'm gonna chill out for while and watch some foosball (go chiefs!!) | ||
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What games have ever had two 3p in a 15 player game What games haven't Then do the percentages. I'd love to know | ||
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On September 16 2013 01:55 VayneAuthority wrote: Show nested quote + On September 16 2013 01:50 Papa_Smurf wrote: btw koshi, since you are so keen on the fact of having two 3p in this game. What games have ever had two 3p in a 15 player game What games haven't Then do the percentages. I'd love to know golden sun is a game with a lot of lone wolves and rouges of that nature. It fits the game and his role PM looked very convincing. Idk why you would ever ask the hosts for a survivor role PM to fake when that role is usually lynched on sight by every town. I don't see him flipping scum. what of "the captain" I could only find one reference of someone being a captain of the ship. Nowhere does it say he was called "the captain" riggs was presumably born and raised in Champa. In his early life he is described as formerly being a real brat, but in the present age he has become a swarthy middle-aged man who was eventually recognized as the greatest of Champa's sailors, so he was subsequently named the captain of the sailors of Champa. He is also described as having "never been sick a day of his life." While he is recognized as tough and boasts of it, Briggs is also very insecure around those even more powerful than himself, instinctively running away from someone who defeats him in battle. I couldn't find karagol anywhere in the wiki entry, which was the sea referenced that "the captain" sailed in. | ||
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On September 16 2013 01:59 raynpelikoneet wrote: Show nested quote + On September 16 2013 01:32 Papa_Smurf wrote: On September 16 2013 01:28 raynpelikoneet wrote: On September 16 2013 01:26 Papa_Smurf wrote: On September 16 2013 01:25 raynpelikoneet wrote: On September 16 2013 01:22 Papa_Smurf wrote: On September 16 2013 01:20 raynpelikoneet wrote: I like the wortd misrepresentive meta-case and how that makes kush scum. I remember someone thinking the opposite on last time when there was a misrepresentive meta-case. hmm.. and when was this? lol are u talking about SnB's case? Cuz you thought it was accurate Yeah it is accurate. And you doged the question about the fact in the case that is not accurate and you very well know it. Lol. Therefore the meta case itself was not misrepresentative. It was his use of the meta case that was. I showed that kush's actual meta case was misrepresentative, not just his use of it. No, you are wrong. SnB expecially said "as town rayn pushes important matters". Why don't you look at my last three town games (not Aperture - because i did not have time to play properly so i didn't do much anything), and tell me straight to my face this comment of SnB's is accurate. I even know myself he is worng, the matters i have pushed, especially on D1's, were not important. How does SnB know what i have pushed this game was not important? At that point i had ONLY pushed a guy who is either third party or scum and things regarding him, that was not important, let's say compared to people who pushed blubbers for no fucking reason? There was never a case on blubbers, not a single case, people just voted for him because they were afraid of pushing their own cases or they were sheeps. On September 13 2013 07:49 raynpelikoneet wrote: The post looks fucking good in filter because it describes my meta pretty well. It sounds good. However, what's wrong in that post is: 1) it is not a read on me, it says "rayn is scum or is not", what's the point of that post? 2) the timing, people (you, sno, Koshi, etc) were discussing lynching me (serious or not). He pops in with a comment that says "yeah, rayn is hard to read, this stuff is odd", gives no definite stance on me, gives no real read on me. I know this shit. If i was a bad mafia player and got lynched today SnB would be the influence behind the lynch and nobody would ever be able to track that lynch back to him. I know this shit, that's what i do as scum. It's sneaky as fuck. 3) No explanation when asked, hit-and-run post, people forget those if it gains no momentum. How do you now find it an inaccurate meta read, when you said it was fucking accurate earlier | ||
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On September 16 2013 02:05 Grackaroni wrote: Show nested quote + On September 15 2013 08:04 Koshi wrote: On September 15 2013 08:03 Grackaroni wrote: I'm going to feel so stupid if BH is actually a 2nd survivor lol. Nope. You would feel stupid if you don't lynch BH and he ends up being scum. Then you can feel stupid. @koshi why switch off BH now. Kush and oats i could see switching but this surprises me. BH is absolutely the correct lynch for he day. Why risk hitting town when we can hit a confirmed anti-town player? BH's breadcrumb wasn't good and the chances of 2 survivors is very low. Also Oats, I don't agree with your characterization of BH's scum play. From what I remember BH as scum is unable to keep up the activity he has as town and has a hard time faking the aggression as well. Grack awesome. What do you think of kush's meta case on me, the sudden push on me, and my case on koshi gogogogogo. | ||
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On September 16 2013 02:10 raynpelikoneet wrote: Show nested quote + On September 16 2013 02:04 Papa_Smurf wrote: On September 16 2013 01:59 raynpelikoneet wrote: On September 16 2013 01:32 Papa_Smurf wrote: On September 16 2013 01:28 raynpelikoneet wrote: On September 16 2013 01:26 Papa_Smurf wrote: On September 16 2013 01:25 raynpelikoneet wrote: On September 16 2013 01:22 Papa_Smurf wrote: On September 16 2013 01:20 raynpelikoneet wrote: I like the wortd misrepresentive meta-case and how that makes kush scum. I remember someone thinking the opposite on last time when there was a misrepresentive meta-case. hmm.. and when was this? lol are u talking about SnB's case? Cuz you thought it was accurate Yeah it is accurate. And you doged the question about the fact in the case that is not accurate and you very well know it. Lol. Therefore the meta case itself was not misrepresentative. It was his use of the meta case that was. I showed that kush's actual meta case was misrepresentative, not just his use of it. No, you are wrong. SnB expecially said "as town rayn pushes important matters". Why don't you look at my last three town games (not Aperture - because i did not have time to play properly so i didn't do much anything), and tell me straight to my face this comment of SnB's is accurate. I even know myself he is worng, the matters i have pushed, especially on D1's, were not important. How does SnB know what i have pushed this game was not important? At that point i had ONLY pushed a guy who is either third party or scum and things regarding him, that was not important, let's say compared to people who pushed blubbers for no fucking reason? There was never a case on blubbers, not a single case, people just voted for him because they were afraid of pushing their own cases or they were sheeps. On September 13 2013 07:49 raynpelikoneet wrote: The post looks fucking good in filter because it describes my meta pretty well. It sounds good. However, what's wrong in that post is: 1) it is not a read on me, it says "rayn is scum or is not", what's the point of that post? 2) the timing, people (you, sno, Koshi, etc) were discussing lynching me (serious or not). He pops in with a comment that says "yeah, rayn is hard to read, this stuff is odd", gives no definite stance on me, gives no real read on me. I know this shit. If i was a bad mafia player and got lynched today SnB would be the influence behind the lynch and nobody would ever be able to track that lynch back to him. I know this shit, that's what i do as scum. It's sneaky as fuck. 3) No explanation when asked, hit-and-run post, people forget those if it gains no momentum. How do you now find it an inaccurate meta read, when you said it was fucking accurate earlier Because there are only slight differences in my scum/town play, and the conclusion "rayn is hard to read" is a reasonable conclusion. I didn't read that post with full concentration at that time. I only noticed something is fucking off in that post and only later analyzed it better. Why are you again dodging answering me and comign up with something entirely different? Can you just fucking answer my post and not flip-flop around it? This is the very reason why you are on my ignore list. Anyways, you were going on about insignificant stuff/stuff that you shouldn't + Show Spoiler + On September 13 2013 01:37 raynpelikoneet wrote: Show nested quote + On September 13 2013 01:35 Sn0_Man wrote: 4-person scumteam is much harder to nail than 3 person scumteam at game start. lame, I thought I was gonna be the hero by calling blubbdavid, pandain and papa_smurf scum (in order of certainty, last is *starsenses*). Oh well at least BD is around lets hear what he has to say. debears could be scum. All he did was to enter an argument with Vayne that honestly was crap. There was also nothing to achieve from that argument in the first place.. That's weird, cuz I did the same thing in desert (arguing and voting someone who had a strong town read early d1), and you didn't find me scum there solely because of that. On September 13 2013 03:17 raynpelikoneet wrote: Show nested quote + On September 13 2013 03:04 Papa_Smurf wrote: Final thing This is a pure policy on raynp If rayne EVER in game says he fake claims, we are lynching him on the spot. No questions asked. He heavily messed up the last game for town by his fakeclaim shenanigans (fakeclaiming 3 times apparently since the host said he never got shot). MAKE SURE WE LYNCH RAYNP IF HE EVER FAKECLAIMS Actually. Explain to me how i messed up the game and how you come to a conclusion i should be policy lynched if i fakeclaim? Also why can't i fakeclaim as scum, as your post suggests that you know i am town already (read the policy-word)? See, everyone goes on about how I started the shitfest between us. You did by questioning my policy lynch. On September 13 2013 03:17 raynpelikoneet wrote: Show nested quote + On September 13 2013 03:17 Sn0_Man wrote: I'm leaning scum tbh. Even though I hate rayn's claims with a passion its probably not unreasonable to say that they cause some amount of uncertainty to the scummers who would probably not mind doing without. Although rayns reads this game are even worse than most of his other games (apparently thats even possible) so there is that. <3 Who's found scum in last couple of games and who's not? *Ego* shoving your dick in sn0's face for now reason. On September 13 2013 04:01 raynpelikoneet wrote: Show nested quote + On September 13 2013 03:54 Sn0_Man wrote: On September 13 2013 03:42 Sn0_Man wrote: Did marv tell you not to tunnel a townie Day 1? This was a serious question rayn. Lynching you doesn't seem as unreasonable as I had thought. I'm wondering where your famous day-1 tunnel has gone? its almost halfway through day 1 already. So what, i need to tunnel a townie to not get lynched on D1? Is that what you are saying? I don't see where you are heading with this so could you please clarify? arguing with sn0 over a "meta tell" that had no evidence behind it and wasn't seriously considered by anyone else to be true. On September 13 2013 04:07 raynpelikoneet wrote: Show nested quote + On September 13 2013 04:04 Papa_Smurf wrote: On September 13 2013 04:03 raynpelikoneet wrote: Also nobody has explained why Pandain's post is wrong in any way. Someone who's calling it bad/wrong explain. start reading please On September 12 2013 15:58 Papa_Smurf wrote: On September 12 2013 13:24 Pandain wrote: I'm sorry I'm not going to be able to fully make my thoughts fully comprehensible and eloquent, instead I will just get them written down. College struggles. Alot of what I was going to say was already said by WoS Old Panther, however I have some comments to them. VA seems town due to the fact he's actively moving the thread forward for a long time. GK seems town(recognizing the one argument was silly and a distraction) I agree with OP's catch on SnB reading up on Papasmurf coaching meaning that snb is probably town. Means he's already investigating outside and looking into matters, which maybe I'm wrong but I don't think is a mafia move. Papa_Smurf, you asked others to not spam, but spam isn't just useless content, it's a bunch of small thoughts spread out across many posts. Consolidate your thoughts please for the sake of the thread. Zealos seems town because if someone else was Isaac(who is very likely to be a character due to the fact he's the main party leader in the original GS, thanks Wikipedia!), then he would get counterclaimed. And Isaac isn't evil. I don't know if it's forbidden to reason like this, based on character names, but that's what I got. Honestly not sure about OP's alignment. People who make posts like that are usually from my experience really really really good, and that means they can do anything. Main thing to keep out for is what OP actually does in the game, not what he just says. I am getting a bad read on Grackaroni due to the fact he's being very moderate in his opinions, always saying "in my opinion, I feel", trying to defend himself rather than offer actual opinions, or he's just spamming. Not sure if Scum though. Also to put it bluntly I'm going to lynch kushm4sta unless he stops posting like shit. Also he's being pretty crude(like crude troll), and I really don't appreciate it. He'll be useless to the thread basically, and with more posts I see while writing this he has ignored OP's plea to stop spamming, showing he won't listen. I agree though that lurkers should be incredibly suspicious, there are five of them in Onegu, blubdavid,raynpelikoneet, Sn0_Man, and Zealos. The two bolded parts don't seem to come from a town mindset. 1) (As I said in an earlier post), SnB's finding me signing up as a coach for newbies isn't "research". He probably saw the post in the forum with my name as the latest post and looked at it for a second. It's something that either alignment would do, seeing as knowing who the smurf is can help mafia consider nks more easily. 2) The wording you use on kush seems to infer you think he is town "posting like shit" - that is not the same as "posting like scum". Posting like shit would infer that you think he is town and he should post better "he'll be useless to the thread basically" - you say uselessness as though he is town. "he has ignored OP's (my plea actually) plea to stop spamming" - kush hasn't really been spamming. And you act as though he wouldn't ignore OP's plea anyways. If you thought he was town, that would be a reasonable assumption that he should listen to non spam pleas. But, if he's mafia, he doesn't have motive to listen to such pleas other than to avoid being lynched. I find it odd that none of your words come close to calling kush scum, yet you would lynch him purely for posting like shit, uselessness, and ignoring a plea to not spam. Not scumminess. 3) you have a major contradiction here in these two parts of your post Zealos seems town because if someone else was Isaac(who is very likely to be a character due to the fact he's the main party leader in the original GS, thanks Wikipedia!), then he would get counterclaimed. And Isaac isn't evil. I don't know if it's forbidden to reason like this, based on character names, but that's what I got. I agree though that lurkers should be incredibly suspicious, there are five of them in Onegu, blubdavid,raynpelikoneet, Sn0_Man, and Zealos. You say zealos seems town, then say he should be considered highly suspicious. I wouldn't think town would get that mixed up in their reads in one post Right. Does this make him scum? My argument throughout the day has been that OP has been bringing up the exact same invalid points - besides this NOTHING MORE! How is Pandain more suspicious than OP? On September 13 2013 05:46 raynpelikoneet wrote: And Pandain's thread entry was not awful, I FUCKING POINTED OUT ALREADY WHY OP'S THREAD ENTRY WAS 100x WORSE THAN PANDAIN"S!!! What did people do, oh right! THEY FUCKED OFF! constantly going on about "OP scummier than Panduin". Same points every time. Refusing to listen to other people. On September 13 2013 05:52 raynpelikoneet wrote: Show nested quote + On September 13 2013 05:48 Pandain wrote: On September 13 2013 05:47 raynpelikoneet wrote: On September 13 2013 05:45 Sn0_Man wrote: Nobody's provided town motivation for blue hunting. Its literally 10000000% scum. Unless maybe you are medic but even then you keep your blue hunting to yourself. In other news, i'm not talking to rayn again. He's literally the dumbest person on earth. Whys "moronic as fuck" a town tell on this guy? No, everyone should bluehunt as town. It's beneficial when people claim, you are able to distinguish blues from reds. Not open analysis though please don't make lists. Like, if you have followed any games here in the last year or smth, you'd notice this: Someone claims blue. Everyone yells; "WHERE IS YOUR BREADCRUMB???? NO BREADCRUMB, YOU ARE SCUM!!" Breadcrumbs are dumb, it's your actions throughout the game that tell if you are what you claim you are. People are shit in that regards. Just a warning. ^^ Making a huge deal on breadcrumbs (I still wonder who told you that breadcrumbs are totally useless) On September 13 2013 07:01 raynpelikoneet wrote: WHAT IS GOOD? WHY DO PEOPLE KEEP SAYING "THIS GUY IS SAYING GOOD THINGS"? WHTA'S GOOD, TELL ME? Like this one is probably the worst Besides, I don't get how you don't understand the main reason why I didn't listen your your SnB stuff was that you suddenly flipflopped on him after calling him town earliier and defending vaynes early game strong town read. | ||
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On September 16 2013 02:11 kushm4sta wrote: As scum you tell people how to play like with general newbie tips for how to play mafia. In your example, you were explaining why someone's case was bad / your thought process. It was not a superficial tip like you do in your scumgames. Here is another example: Show nested quote + On September 14 2013 10:12 Papa_Smurf wrote: Stop wifoming over posting a role pm Do post analysis over actual play This is completely different than the type of lecturing you did in that town game. ~~~~ Regarding your emotionality, in your town examples of you being emotional, it's not really that emotional. You are simple explaining yourself and using capitalization for emphasis. You have a completely different attitude as town. You are calm, methodical, logical. As scum you are aggressive, blunt, and mean. You look for superficial scumtells and latch onto them without analyzing deeper. Show nested quote + On September 14 2013 09:29 Papa_Smurf wrote: So let me get this straight Raynp wants me to explain my read on him right away Raynp wants BH to post ever read he has right away Raynp won't post actual analysis on kush's play Raynp thought we should lynch oats (a replacement) over kush Wow Can He Be This Bad As Town ~~~~ You try to discount me because I've provided only two examples. I only did two in my original thread because I am lazy and tired and shit (awake all night). I have provided two more in this post. There are more still! ~~~~ Add to that the fact that you are literally freaking out right now. Your posting rate has jumped like crazy, like your heart rate if you had a gun to your head. You put crap tons of effort into this defense. Quoting past games and shit. If only you put a fraction of that effort into scum hunting, maybe I might believe you are town. 2 more quotes from THIS GAME. WOW ' THAT'S GREAT ADDED META ANALYSIS. 2 more quotes from this game. wow. Not from my games where you would get a meta read. look at the red 1) "There are more still" implies he has already found more quotes from other games. Why did he not post them? "he's lazy and tired"? All he has to do is quote them. Kush is lying 2) Why has kush still not shown any of the above tells as trends in all my games? He has 2 quotes from two other games, which do not in any way indicate a trend when I have so kindly provided multiple quotes from 3 other games of mine. It's because he can't. 3) Why is kush so eager to lynch me over SnB, who should be the obvious lynch in a 15 player game with another survivor already flipped? | ||
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On September 16 2013 02:30 kushm4sta wrote: @ps also please show me where you were a dick to someone in a town game. I think acting like a dick is a huge scumtell for you. show me a game where I'm not a dick at all at any point. It's your meta case. You do it. | ||
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