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I don't like the suggestion to vig kush. Probably not alignment indicative though especially since you're probably relying on old metareads of him. He has in recent games (as you may have been told) picked up his play apparently. Hasn't done so this game until like just now but personally I wouldn't have vigged him this early anyway. I'd be much more afraid of someone like Onegu who can win games by AFKing apparently. I honestly like this defense to my case better On September 13 2013 00:27 Grackaroni wrote: Frankly I don't know what you are going on about, I have played with you twice before and I have never been this pro-town before. It's ridiculous that I'm even a point of discussion. I completely shut down WoS' points. Yes, there could be a mafia motivation for me to ask S&B that question There is also a town motivation for me to ask that question, His storyline for me being scum didn't make any sense (if I was scum, I got exactly what I was looking for from S&B and could have pushed Vayne more) so it is more likely coming from a townie. Since it gives me some FEELS on possible towniness to you I wasn't seeing earlier. Then this: On September 13 2013 01:27 Grackaroni wrote: I am going to rescind my vote on Pandain and move it to Blubbdavid. My main point on Pandain had to do with him calling me bad and wanting to lynch bad rather than scum. Nobody else in the thread has read his post in the way that I have so I could be mistaken. ##Vote: Blubbdavid Isn't that essentially the same thing as this? On September 13 2013 01:05 Grackaroni wrote: No I don't think he's really strong scum. I think calling out people with weak reasons is a big case for why Blubdavid is scum. You say yourself you're the only one who apparently saw the bad v scum thing the way you did, and while I agree, I'm not sure if that's for a towny or scum reason. Calling someone out with the intent to get them lynched is often done in many ways; what becomes important is not the language they use but rather the intent behind the attempt to lynch. This makes me want to look into Blubbdavid/Pandain a little closer and see how you're connected to this exactly and whether I can truly see town behind these accusations or not. LOL I REMEMBER READING THIS EARLIER TODAY I LOLED On September 13 2013 01:30 Grackaroni wrote: lol how is that your wagon, I posted on Blubbdavid long before you did. Vayne just so you know I was thinking the exact same thing. Vayne and I being on exactly the same page for much of this game----I'm not sure this has happened before. He is reading me pretty fucking well. I don't even thing we were in so much agreement when we both played on the same scumteam. I think I'm pretty forced to reinforce my townread on him atm. On September 13 2013 10:45 Grackaroni wrote: All Aboard! I am proclaiming this, The Wagon of Justice! So...voteswitch eh? WHen did you lose your scumreads on Pandain-->Blubb in that order? You literally just switch without a second thought but still seem to want to push the other two and the same time? what is it exactly you are trying to accomplish as town with this? I'm curious so answer please. | ||
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On September 13 2013 14:03 Grackaroni wrote: I have reasoning I just never posted it. @WoS: I liked Blubber's defense. Rayn brought up a point against me that he could have used against me and instead he said that he disagreed with Rayn, which leads me to believe that he is actually analyzing the points rather than just deciding before hand to call me scum, "I'm going to say Grack is mafia, look grack defending kush. scum team much? Grack asking koshi a question? Must be scum..." etc. Plus He backed down and then started considering Pandain which is also something that gives him townie points in my eyes. I'm still suspicious of Pandain and I was going to post why but i got stopped waiting for a non-existant reads post. Both of those are perfectly viable scum responses to being attacked in thread. Why does this mean you give him town points? Just because he appeased you and started to agree with your earlier scumread? | ||
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On September 13 2013 14:10 Grackaroni wrote: You aren't even reading my posts... My read on Blubbdavid was based on him displaying a scum mindset and deciding before hand he was going to accuse me. He twisted a lot of things in my posts into being scummy that he should have been able to have seen could come from a town perspective. Later I saw him doing things that didn't go in line with that scummy mindset, so I moved off of Blub. There is more to my thought process then you are making it out to be. Can you show me in your earlier posts where you outline the thought process you just explained to me here? Also would you not say I am doing the same thing as bolded above? | ||
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My second point is that you accused Blubbdavid of being scummy based on what I bolded, yet you haven't called me scummy for what essentially might amount to the same thing. Why? | ||
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I'm asking you to show me the posts in your filter where you rescind your scumread on blubbdavid and the explanation behind it I apparently should have already found in your filter. | ||
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The point remains, why did you not post your reasons for moving off of Blub before? And the fact remains that until you JUST explained yourself somewhat, I didn't see any other reason for you removing your scumread. Now can you answer my other question regarding a comparison between what you originally found scummy about Blub's play and mine? | ||
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##Unvote Just not enough for me to go on any longer. Too much town since that instant scumread I got from you at the start of the game and I was trying to pull some Ver-esque shit. Doesn't make any sense to not update reads though, and your thought processes and fast-paced discussion with you right now seems pretty damn genuine. I'm fucking exhausted and going to bed. I'll be around for a bunch of the day tomorrow before deadline. | ||
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'Koshi + Rayn power' makes me not want to bother posting while I can but I did promise. | ||
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If I default before I go it'll be a low/no-poster. Probs Onegu. | ||
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Technically the game ended well as a result but D1 in that game was not particularly productive imo. Obviously we're probably not dealing with a situation where it's a good thing if the cop dies so I suppose the direct comparison isn't completely appropriate but I'd still be very wary of letting you two run rampant again. I'll look a little more closely as my initial 'maybe-town' read on SnB is probably no longer appropriate especially considering my change in stance on Grack. | ||
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On September 14 2013 00:26 raynpelikoneet wrote: So SnB must be town because it's me and Koshi voting for him.. This seems really fishy and it's nto a reason why my case is bad. lol. 1) never said your case is bad. 2) Never said SnB is town because you two are voting for him. 3) You start calling people scum when they disagree with you (ie dibbers/OP) How do you expect people to play this game when you attempt to pre-emptively shut down any contribution they make? This is exactly how you got me mislynched in Persona so i suggest you check your play, Rayn. Although I'm pretty sure this kind of play makes you town---I think it'd be really impressive if you could reproduce this play as scum. (On that note, in Rayn's recent scumgame, did he play this way? Does anyone know?) Now if you calm your tits, I'll get to SnB. | ||
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I worry now because I might agree based on Rayn's meta points. SnB come back and have some sort of shitfest with Rayn plz so i can have a better idea/read of you? kthx. | ||
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On September 14 2013 01:08 Koshi wrote: I have a feeling that the towncore from Persona is town again in this game. Oats, Kush, rayn, Koshi, VA (maybe), WoS (maybe). ezpz That would be very interesting---what makes you say that? Also you had an OHHHH post earlier. Whazzat? | ||
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On September 14 2013 01:12 Oatsmaster wrote: kk guys, OLD PARTNER IS THE LYNCH FOR TODAY. He has only pushed a policy lynch on Kush for whatever reason. Thats stupid and not something town does. Who wants to waste day 1 killing someone who is almost surely gonna be town without discussion?? Also, he uses the justification that he cant read all these dudes and therefore they should be policy lynched. bullshit. Scum writes Bullshit. Lynch scum. ##vote Old Partner Makes some sense aside from the 'almost surely gonna be town' thing. Why is kush town? | ||
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On September 14 2013 01:14 blubbdavid wrote: Lol, I may be bad and confused and stuff, but not blendy. NOT BLENDY. My case on Koshi, Grack (where some people agreed with me) and Zealos are pioneering work. And I am calling Zealos out because of that wagonhopping and non-contributions of his. My own views on SnB don't matter in this case. @rayn I will vote for SnB if it is required. You keep emphasizing this. I've done this myself what I'm nto sure of a lynch but you seem to be pretty sure of your push atm, so why post this? This isn't majority lynch where we absolutely NEED consolidation (though it certainly helps) and you are in no danger of being lynched atm. Why are you setting yourself up for a vote switch? What are the 'requirements?' | ||
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On September 14 2013 01:18 Oatsmaster wrote: Like in theory, almost all policy lynches lynch town. Kush seems like normal kush. I agree. (Well except for maybe the policy lynch part because I don't think I've EVER seen a policy lynch go through on TL. Like ever.) I thought for a minute Kush'd start doing some real shit but then he stopped | ||
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