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WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31494 Posts
September 04 2013 16:50 GMT
#19
I don't know if Golden Sun 2 counts but this is one of my favourites personally.
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WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31494 Posts
September 10 2013 17:30 GMT
#44
Ughhhhhhhh
Now I might actually want to play this.
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WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31494 Posts
September 10 2013 21:01 GMT
#49
Make it N0 and I'll throw one in.
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WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31494 Posts
September 10 2013 21:43 GMT
#62
Alright good it's full so I don't have to be tempted.
/replace
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WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31494 Posts
September 11 2013 06:06 GMT
#68
Aperture's over....should I play? FUCK
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WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31494 Posts
September 11 2013 23:37 GMT
#164
As I didn't get to say this in pregame chat (as I didn't know I'd be playing until the silent pregame period) I would like to make this perfectly clear.

There is a period of time in this game where I will not be around a computer---I was told I won't get modkilled for this---what you guys choose to do about it when the time comes is another story, but I am giving you fair warning.
I will not have computer access from Friday pre-deadline until Saturday evening post-deadline. This will be the entirety of Night 1 I believe. Make of it what you will.

+ Show Spoiler +
I'm also real sad I'm replacing DP---if anything I wanted to play with him.


Going to do some stuff and watch Masterchef finale. Will return to hunt scum later.
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WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31494 Posts
September 12 2013 02:47 GMT
#184
Alright ladies and gents, I'm here, I'm town, let's rock and roll.

First things first: if anyone has a gun in this game, I fully advocate getting rid of lurk as soon as possible. (If you decide this includes me despite my advance warning then so be it.) It becomes really difficult for town to have any hope in hell of winning when there are people working against us by not contributing.

Now onto the actual game. I'm fine with VA at the moment. The sheer fact that he is actually choosing to give some analysis and reads D1 is a nice change from most of the play in his usual games (aside from the fact that he's going to spew some bullshit about how he 'plays differently every game' or something). I want him around. SnB, I think this may be the most I've EVER seen you actively hunt/contribute out of ANY game we've played in together thus far. Not sure what to make of it, and the fact that you and Vayne seem to agree very quickly on each others' alignments to some degree is either really good or really worrying---which leads me to Grack. He seem to also find this somewhat worrying (on the Vayne side of things) but...
On September 12 2013 09:35 Grackaroni wrote:
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On September 12 2013 09:18 strongandbig wrote:
Hmm interesting. How can you differentiate between him bullshitting and him having different information (recent games together) or having a different threshold for giving out townreads?

That's what I have to think about. I haven't played with Vayne before but he seems to be very aggressive and much more confident in his reads than myself so it's possible for him to be town and not bullshitting. However,

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On September 12 2013 08:18 VayneAuthority wrote:
that's actually an interesting quote you just responded to SnB, I missed that.

@grackaroni why specifically were you concerned with what SnB thought of me? Sounds like trying to see if you should jump on the wagon too at some point.

This quote rubs me the wrong way. Why shouldn't i be concerned about what your thoughts were on Vayne. If you were to say that you weren't deviating much from your standard play or that it didn't make sense for him to have such a strong town read it would be very telling.

There was nothing scummy about my question to you. I wanted more information from you and it seems like a weird thing for him to grasp on to and turn against me.


This reads to me of poking just to gauge reaction to see if it's safe to start a wagon. It looks like a scum Grack being very very careful about harboring suspicion and looking for SnB to 'lead' him in the right direction as to whether town will view his suspicion on Vayne as 'ok' or not. It could have also been a preliminary attempt to break up what could be a potential town circle starting, but that might be going a bit far.
For now,
##Vote: Grackaroni

Also wtf is this?
On September 12 2013 07:56 Zealos wrote:
Hey, my name is Isaac.

I know people hate role speculation and shit like that but I can honestly say I don't care. Closed setup so this may or may not be true, but from the OP Proxians are outlined here so I'm going to assume based on Golden Sun storyline we're out to find Saturos and Menardi. Based on numbers I'd say another but I can't remember who else is a villian from the game without looking it up and I'm lazy.

I don't know what to be more concerned about at this point, the roleclaim itself, or the fact that absolutely nobody bothered to bring it up. Zealos are you going to be rejoining us this game?
twitch.tv/waveofshadow ||| Winner of AHGL's So You Think You Can Cast! ||| Juicy Dad for lyfe ||| 'idk i get a kick out of stupid things' - Jarms Yarng
WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31494 Posts
September 12 2013 02:48 GMT
#185
On September 12 2013 10:02 Grackaroni wrote:
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On September 12 2013 09:55 goodkarma wrote:
On September 12 2013 09:51 Grackaroni wrote:
On September 12 2013 09:43 goodkarma wrote:
EBWOP:

Do you mean to say that because you don't share a read that someone else has that makes them scum? For sure strong townreads early are a bit rare (at least for me), but have you looked at strong's playstyle before?

Wow. No I'm not arguing that people are scum for disagreeing with my reads.... His read literally came out of nowhere. I'm suspicious of people who come up with strong reads at a time that I feel that they shouldn't have strong reads.


So just to be clear, you're saying that no one should ever have strong reads this early unless said person is scum?

I mean, from my perspective it makes a player more likely to be scum.
If I was town I would never be this confident in a player from what I saw so far in this day
If I was scum It seems like some bullshit that could slip out of me to save my scum buddy or protect a townie.

It's becoming more and more clear to me that Vayne is a very different player than myself so I will take that into consideration.

It's becoming more and more clear to me that you didn't garner the reaction from thread that you wanted and you're trying to back off now.


In other news, Kush are you going to be lolkush this game, or Persona Kush?
twitch.tv/waveofshadow ||| Winner of AHGL's So You Think You Can Cast! ||| Juicy Dad for lyfe ||| 'idk i get a kick out of stupid things' - Jarms Yarng
WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31494 Posts
September 12 2013 03:06 GMT
#188
On September 12 2013 12:03 VayneAuthority wrote:
yea not just him WoS, the blubbdavid guy did the same thing -_- just posted a one liner and peaced out. Wouldn't mind a vig taking out either of those guys. If they aren't going to give us content, I don't want to be the one stuck at lylo with them.

and I see you spotted the same thing I did in that grackaroni post, so glad we're on the same page. I disagree on that alone being vote worthy, but it definitely got me suspicious.

I think I can safely say you aren't 3rd party this game

We're not going to be stuck at LYLO period. Town is going to fucking WIN a game.

I am curious about your non-3P read on me. What specifically do you notice as my '3P' play? Did you have me pegged in Aperture?
twitch.tv/waveofshadow ||| Winner of AHGL's So You Think You Can Cast! ||| Juicy Dad for lyfe ||| 'idk i get a kick out of stupid things' - Jarms Yarng
WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31494 Posts
September 12 2013 03:10 GMT
#192
On September 12 2013 12:06 debears wrote:
dag gummit. my cover is blown. didnt even make it past d1

That's impressive dibbers.
twitch.tv/waveofshadow ||| Winner of AHGL's So You Think You Can Cast! ||| Juicy Dad for lyfe ||| 'idk i get a kick out of stupid things' - Jarms Yarng
WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31494 Posts
September 12 2013 03:13 GMT
#197
On September 12 2013 12:09 VayneAuthority wrote:
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On September 12 2013 12:06 WaveofShadow wrote:
On September 12 2013 12:03 VayneAuthority wrote:
yea not just him WoS, the blubbdavid guy did the same thing -_- just posted a one liner and peaced out. Wouldn't mind a vig taking out either of those guys. If they aren't going to give us content, I don't want to be the one stuck at lylo with them.

and I see you spotted the same thing I did in that grackaroni post, so glad we're on the same page. I disagree on that alone being vote worthy, but it definitely got me suspicious.

I think I can safely say you aren't 3rd party this game

We're not going to be stuck at LYLO period. Town is going to fucking WIN a game.

I am curious about your non-3P read on me. What specifically do you notice as my '3P' play? Did you have me pegged in Aperture?


debears are you in this game? Don't see you on the player list.

it was more of a joke since I've been randomly calling you 3rd party lately. And I don't think I really even looked at you once in aperture so no. I was 3rd party as well and more focused on doin' my fake claim thing and annoying people for the lols.

I think it goes back to that basterd mini game where you didn't give two shits about the game so for me 3rd party WoS = doesn't care and you clearly care with that first post. But I think you told me in another game that the circumstances were different blhah blah something

3P is fun, isn't it?
twitch.tv/waveofshadow ||| Winner of AHGL's So You Think You Can Cast! ||| Juicy Dad for lyfe ||| 'idk i get a kick out of stupid things' - Jarms Yarng
WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31494 Posts
September 12 2013 03:14 GMT
#201
On September 12 2013 12:10 Papa_Smurf wrote:
@WoS

So you don't find a town perspective of asking the opinion of the person who is receiving a strong town read in the early game? Even I was curious about it for a bit.

Of course I do. Look at HOW it's being done however. He's not simply trying to ask SnB's perspective, he wants it so he can USE it towards his own ends---in this case as a way to relieve himself of Vayne suspicion.
twitch.tv/waveofshadow ||| Winner of AHGL's So You Think You Can Cast! ||| Juicy Dad for lyfe ||| 'idk i get a kick out of stupid things' - Jarms Yarng
WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31494 Posts
September 12 2013 03:23 GMT
#206
I see his behaviour as more likely to come from scum.
That's about it.
twitch.tv/waveofshadow ||| Winner of AHGL's So You Think You Can Cast! ||| Juicy Dad for lyfe ||| 'idk i get a kick out of stupid things' - Jarms Yarng
WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31494 Posts
September 12 2013 04:36 GMT
#225
Well I guess we've discovered which Kush will be playing in this game.
How disappointing.
twitch.tv/waveofshadow ||| Winner of AHGL's So You Think You Can Cast! ||| Juicy Dad for lyfe ||| 'idk i get a kick out of stupid things' - Jarms Yarng
WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31494 Posts
September 13 2013 03:40 GMT
#647
Sorry ladies. Busier than I thought today. I'll be able to post for a bit tonight and a few hours tomorrow pre-deadline before my aforementioned afk period.

If yall want to get all salty about my contributions by all means go ahead. I'm not going to be defending myself. Anyway finishing catching up---I remember thinking my Grack scumread is still justified but I have to recheck why.
twitch.tv/waveofshadow ||| Winner of AHGL's So You Think You Can Cast! ||| Juicy Dad for lyfe ||| 'idk i get a kick out of stupid things' - Jarms Yarng
WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31494 Posts
September 13 2013 03:45 GMT
#649
Something along the lines of 'jumping on opportune targets basically all game,' I think.
I'll see if I have time to post another decent case or a rebuttal towards yours of mine earlier today (which I seem to remember thinking was pretty decent, actually), but I don't see any reason to move my vote anywhere atm.
twitch.tv/waveofshadow ||| Winner of AHGL's So You Think You Can Cast! ||| Juicy Dad for lyfe ||| 'idk i get a kick out of stupid things' - Jarms Yarng
WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31494 Posts
September 13 2013 03:54 GMT
#654
On September 13 2013 12:47 kushm4sta wrote:
did you or did you not read the whole thread so far wos?

Mabes.
twitch.tv/waveofshadow ||| Winner of AHGL's So You Think You Can Cast! ||| Juicy Dad for lyfe ||| 'idk i get a kick out of stupid things' - Jarms Yarng
WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31494 Posts
September 13 2013 04:19 GMT
#662
On September 13 2013 12:57 kushm4sta wrote:
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On September 13 2013 12:54 WaveofShadow wrote:
On September 13 2013 12:47 kushm4sta wrote:
did you or did you not read the whole thread so far wos?

Mabes.


If you haven't even read the thread, how can you be so sure about your terribad grack read?

Answer that question yourself, Kush.
What are the possible answers to that question?
twitch.tv/waveofshadow ||| Winner of AHGL's So You Think You Can Cast! ||| Juicy Dad for lyfe ||| 'idk i get a kick out of stupid things' - Jarms Yarng
WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31494 Posts
September 13 2013 04:23 GMT
#665
On September 13 2013 13:20 kushm4sta wrote:
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On September 13 2013 13:19 WaveofShadow wrote:
On September 13 2013 12:57 kushm4sta wrote:
On September 13 2013 12:54 WaveofShadow wrote:
On September 13 2013 12:47 kushm4sta wrote:
did you or did you not read the whole thread so far wos?

Mabes.


If you haven't even read the thread, how can you be so sure about your terribad grack read?

Answer that question yourself, Kush.
What are the possible answers to that question?

Not sure honestly. Because I am also in the position of never having read the thread, but in that case I always just want to sheep someone instead of being the only one voting for an unpopular, unfounded, lynch.

I suppose that might be true, but then you and I are very different players aren't we?

Here are the possible answers based on your question:
1) Because I'm scum.
2) Because I actually HAVE read the thread.

Which is the right answer?
twitch.tv/waveofshadow ||| Winner of AHGL's So You Think You Can Cast! ||| Juicy Dad for lyfe ||| 'idk i get a kick out of stupid things' - Jarms Yarng
WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31494 Posts
September 13 2013 04:34 GMT
#666
On September 12 2013 13:16 Grackaroni wrote:
@WoS: There's nothing really going on there, I'm just putting my thought process into the thread; It just happened to have been S&B who asked for my opinion.

Your scum narrative for my actions doesn't make sense to me.
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On September 12 2013 11:47 WaveofShadow wrote:

Now onto the actual game. I'm fine with VA at the moment. The sheer fact that he is actually choosing to give some analysis and reads D1 is a nice change from most of the play in his usual games (aside from the fact that he's going to spew some bullshit about how he 'plays differently every game' or something). I want him around. SnB, I think this may be the most I've EVER seen you actively hunt/contribute out of ANY game we've played in together thus far. Not sure what to make of it, and the fact that you and Vayne seem to agree very quickly on each others' alignments to some degree is either really good or really worrying---which leads me to Grack. He seem to also find this somewhat worrying (on the Vayne side of things) but...
On September 12 2013 09:35 Grackaroni wrote:
On September 12 2013 09:18 strongandbig wrote:
Hmm interesting. How can you differentiate between him bullshitting and him having different information (recent games together) or having a different threshold for giving out townreads?

That's what I have to think about. I haven't played with Vayne before but he seems to be very aggressive and much more confident in his reads than myself so it's possible for him to be town and not bullshitting. However,

On September 12 2013 08:18 VayneAuthority wrote:
that's actually an interesting quote you just responded to SnB, I missed that.

@grackaroni why specifically were you concerned with what SnB thought of me? Sounds like trying to see if you should jump on the wagon too at some point.

This quote rubs me the wrong way. Why shouldn't i be concerned about what your thoughts were on Vayne. If you were to say that you weren't deviating much from your standard play or that it didn't make sense for him to have such a strong town read it would be very telling.

There was nothing scummy about my question to you. I wanted more information from you and it seems like a weird thing for him to grasp on to and turn against me.


This reads to me of poking just to gauge reaction to see if it's safe to start a wagon. It looks like a scum Grack being very very careful about harboring suspicion and looking for SnB to 'lead' him in the right direction as to whether town will view his suspicion on Vayne as 'ok' or not. It could have also been a preliminary attempt to break up what could be a potential town circle starting, but that might be going a bit far.
For now,
##Vote: Grackaroni

I'm scum subtly trying to buddy S&B to form a wagon on Vayne, OK that is possible. I honestly wouldn't give my scum play that much credit but w/e.
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On September 12 2013 09:52 strongandbig wrote:
On September 12 2013 09:35 Grackaroni wrote:
On September 12 2013 09:18 strongandbig wrote:
Hmm interesting. How can you differentiate between him bullshitting and him having different information (recent games together) or having a different threshold for giving out townreads?

That's what I have to think about. I haven't played with Vayne before but he seems to be very aggressive and much more confident in his reads than myself so it's possible for him to be town and not bullshitting. However,

On September 12 2013 08:18 VayneAuthority wrote:
that's actually an interesting quote you just responded to SnB, I missed that.

@grackaroni why specifically were you concerned with what SnB thought of me? Sounds like trying to see if you should jump on the wagon too at some point.

This quote rubs me the wrong way. Why shouldn't i be concerned about what your thoughts were on Vayne. If you were to say that you weren't deviating much from your standard play or that it didn't make sense for him to have such a strong town read it would be very telling.

There was nothing scummy about my question to you. I wanted more information from you and it seems like a weird thing for him to grasp on to and turn against me.


Hmmm, I actually kind of agree with you in regards to that specific comment. Have to figure out how much weight to give that relative to my general impression of va atm.

S&B made this post.
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On September 12 2013 11:48 WaveofShadow wrote:
On September 12 2013 10:02 Grackaroni wrote:
On September 12 2013 09:55 goodkarma wrote:
On September 12 2013 09:51 Grackaroni wrote:
On September 12 2013 09:43 goodkarma wrote:
EBWOP:

Do you mean to say that because you don't share a read that someone else has that makes them scum? For sure strong townreads early are a bit rare (at least for me), but have you looked at strong's playstyle before?

Wow. No I'm not arguing that people are scum for disagreeing with my reads.... His read literally came out of nowhere. I'm suspicious of people who come up with strong reads at a time that I feel that they shouldn't have strong reads.


So just to be clear, you're saying that no one should ever have strong reads this early unless said person is scum?

I mean, from my perspective it makes a player more likely to be scum.
If I was town I would never be this confident in a player from what I saw so far in this day
If I was scum It seems like some bullshit that could slip out of me to save my scum buddy or protect a townie.

It's becoming more and more clear to me that Vayne is a very different player than myself so I will take that into consideration.

It's becoming more and more clear to me that you didn't garner the reaction from thread that you wanted and you're trying to back off now.


In other news, Kush are you going to be lolkush this game, or Persona Kush?

This is completely misrepresenting what happened in the thread. literally 10 minutes before I posted that S&B agreed with my point. If I was scum and my plan was to buddy S&B in order to lynch Vayne then everything would be going according to plan and I wouldn't be *backing off*

Your narration for me being scum doesn't fit with what was happening in the thread.
I'm really not leaning too strongly one way or another with Vayne at the moment. I've just been outlining my thought process in the thread.

Ah ok, I forgot my original point when I was reading this apparently. This post does not in any way debunk my case on you.
If you'll notice my case on you was based on you looking like scum testing out his 'feelers' to see where the best place to direct his scummy actions in the thread was. You say that my point doesn't work because at that point SnB agreed with you and you would totally jump on Vayne and everything would be according to plan bwahahaha

Except that's not true at all. As scum one of the most important things to do is to sow mistrust amongst the members of town whilst blending in. Tell me that's not exactly what you're doing here. You just want to make sure Vayne and SnB don't get 'too close' to each other, while not wanting to go further and toss a vote or put pressure on him yourself beyond the discussion with SnB. Blending in.

Now let's go have a re-look see at why I think I found more of your posting scummy despite what you've said here.
On September 13 2013 12:50 Grackaroni wrote:
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On September 13 2013 12:45 WaveofShadow wrote:
Something along the lines of 'jumping on opportune targets basically all game,' I think.
I'll see if I have time to post another decent case or a rebuttal towards yours of mine earlier today (which I seem to remember thinking was pretty decent, actually), but I don't see any reason to move my vote anywhere atm.

I think that came right out of the mouth of OP. Not sure if that's something I should read into.

Really reread the game again because I don't think that's what's been going on at all. I don't jump on others targets, I make the targets. I began the push on Pandain, I wasn't the first to vote blubbers but I expressed my concern on him before Vayne did and as for OP, most of my reasoning is coming from Rayn but I did say before my dislike of OP's posting and added in my own points.

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