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On September 12 2013 09:51 Grackaroni wrote:Show nested quote +On September 12 2013 09:43 goodkarma wrote: EBWOP:
Do you mean to say that because you don't share a read that someone else has that makes them scum? For sure strong townreads early are a bit rare (at least for me), but have you looked at strong's playstyle before? Wow. No I'm not arguing that people are scum for disagreeing with my reads.... His read literally came out of nowhere. I'm suspicious of people who come up with strong reads at a time that I feel that they shouldn't have strong reads.
So just to be clear, you're saying that no one should ever have strong reads this early unless said person is scum?
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On September 12 2013 09:55 goodkarma wrote:Show nested quote +On September 12 2013 09:51 Grackaroni wrote:On September 12 2013 09:43 goodkarma wrote: EBWOP:
Do you mean to say that because you don't share a read that someone else has that makes them scum? For sure strong townreads early are a bit rare (at least for me), but have you looked at strong's playstyle before? Wow. No I'm not arguing that people are scum for disagreeing with my reads.... His read literally came out of nowhere. I'm suspicious of people who come up with strong reads at a time that I feel that they shouldn't have strong reads. So just to be clear, you're saying that no one should ever have strong reads this early unless said person is scum? I mean, from my perspective it makes a player more likely to be scum. If I was town I would never be this confident in a player from what I saw so far in this day If I was scum It seems like some bullshit that could slip out of me to save my scum buddy or protect a townie.
It's becoming more and more clear to me that Vayne is a very different player than myself so I will take that into consideration.
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On September 12 2013 09:53 strongandbig wrote:Show nested quote +On September 12 2013 09:39 goodkarma wrote:On September 12 2013 09:36 strongandbig wrote:On September 12 2013 09:34 goodkarma wrote:Hi guys Hey gk what do you think of the koshi/me/grack/va situation? I think it's quite silly. Really not what I was looking for. You don't think there's any information in there about any of those people's alignmentS?
To summarize:
grack: "VA how you have such a strong townread on strong?" VA: "Because, I played with him before dude. He doesn't actively participate as scum."
Like I said, silly. VA is pretty clear about his perspective, but grack doesn't seem to follow saying it's come from "nowhere." I'd still be interested in seeing where grack stands after looking at some of your previous scumgames.
As for Koshi, that does seem like a legit "scumslip." But if there's anything I've learned, scumslips are a pretty messy business that townies do just as much (if not moreso than) as scum. What Vayne says about your participation this game is true. From what I remember you're far more lazy as scum.
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Alright ladies and gents, I'm here, I'm town, let's rock and roll.
First things first: if anyone has a gun in this game, I fully advocate getting rid of lurk as soon as possible. (If you decide this includes me despite my advance warning then so be it.) It becomes really difficult for town to have any hope in hell of winning when there are people working against us by not contributing.
Now onto the actual game. I'm fine with VA at the moment. The sheer fact that he is actually choosing to give some analysis and reads D1 is a nice change from most of the play in his usual games (aside from the fact that he's going to spew some bullshit about how he 'plays differently every game' or something). I want him around. SnB, I think this may be the most I've EVER seen you actively hunt/contribute out of ANY game we've played in together thus far. Not sure what to make of it, and the fact that you and Vayne seem to agree very quickly on each others' alignments to some degree is either really good or really worrying---which leads me to Grack. He seem to also find this somewhat worrying (on the Vayne side of things) but...
On September 12 2013 09:35 Grackaroni wrote:Show nested quote +On September 12 2013 09:18 strongandbig wrote: Hmm interesting. How can you differentiate between him bullshitting and him having different information (recent games together) or having a different threshold for giving out townreads? That's what I have to think about. I haven't played with Vayne before but he seems to be very aggressive and much more confident in his reads than myself so it's possible for him to be town and not bullshitting. However, Show nested quote +On September 12 2013 08:18 VayneAuthority wrote: that's actually an interesting quote you just responded to SnB, I missed that.
@grackaroni why specifically were you concerned with what SnB thought of me? Sounds like trying to see if you should jump on the wagon too at some point. This quote rubs me the wrong way. Why shouldn't i be concerned about what your thoughts were on Vayne. If you were to say that you weren't deviating much from your standard play or that it didn't make sense for him to have such a strong town read it would be very telling. There was nothing scummy about my question to you. I wanted more information from you and it seems like a weird thing for him to grasp on to and turn against me.
This reads to me of poking just to gauge reaction to see if it's safe to start a wagon. It looks like a scum Grack being very very careful about harboring suspicion and looking for SnB to 'lead' him in the right direction as to whether town will view his suspicion on Vayne as 'ok' or not. It could have also been a preliminary attempt to break up what could be a potential town circle starting, but that might be going a bit far. For now, ##Vote: Grackaroni
Also wtf is this?
On September 12 2013 07:56 Zealos wrote: Hey, my name is Isaac. I know people hate role speculation and shit like that but I can honestly say I don't care. Closed setup so this may or may not be true, but from the OP Proxians are outlined here so I'm going to assume based on Golden Sun storyline we're out to find Saturos and Menardi. Based on numbers I'd say another but I can't remember who else is a villian from the game without looking it up and I'm lazy.
I don't know what to be more concerned about at this point, the roleclaim itself, or the fact that absolutely nobody bothered to bring it up. Zealos are you going to be rejoining us this game?
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On September 12 2013 10:02 Grackaroni wrote:Show nested quote +On September 12 2013 09:55 goodkarma wrote:On September 12 2013 09:51 Grackaroni wrote:On September 12 2013 09:43 goodkarma wrote: EBWOP:
Do you mean to say that because you don't share a read that someone else has that makes them scum? For sure strong townreads early are a bit rare (at least for me), but have you looked at strong's playstyle before? Wow. No I'm not arguing that people are scum for disagreeing with my reads.... His read literally came out of nowhere. I'm suspicious of people who come up with strong reads at a time that I feel that they shouldn't have strong reads. So just to be clear, you're saying that no one should ever have strong reads this early unless said person is scum? I mean, from my perspective it makes a player more likely to be scum. If I was town I would never be this confident in a player from what I saw so far in this day If I was scum It seems like some bullshit that could slip out of me to save my scum buddy or protect a townie. It's becoming more and more clear to me that Vayne is a very different player than myself so I will take that into consideration. It's becoming more and more clear to me that you didn't garner the reaction from thread that you wanted and you're trying to back off now.
In other news, Kush are you going to be lolkush this game, or Persona Kush?
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yea not just him WoS, the blubbdavid guy did the same thing -_- just posted a one liner and peaced out. Wouldn't mind a vig taking out either of those guys. If they aren't going to give us content, I don't want to be the one stuck at lylo with them.
and I see you spotted the same thing I did in that grackaroni post, so glad we're on the same page. I disagree on that alone being vote worthy, but it definitely got me suspicious.
I think I can safely say you aren't 3rd party this game
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SnB, just to make sure I have a clear understanding on your read on VA. Do you have a strong townread on VA?
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On September 12 2013 12:03 VayneAuthority wrote:yea not just him WoS, the blubbdavid guy did the same thing -_- just posted a one liner and peaced out. Wouldn't mind a vig taking out either of those guys. If they aren't going to give us content, I don't want to be the one stuck at lylo with them. and I see you spotted the same thing I did in that grackaroni post, so glad we're on the same page. I disagree on that alone being vote worthy, but it definitely got me suspicious. I think I can safely say you aren't 3rd party this game We're not going to be stuck at LYLO period. Town is going to fucking WIN a game.
I am curious about your non-3P read on me. What specifically do you notice as my '3P' play? Did you have me pegged in Aperture?
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dag gummit. my cover is blown. didnt even make it past d1
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On September 12 2013 12:05 debears wrote: SnB, just to make sure I have a clear understanding on your read on VA. Do you have a strong townread on VA?
Just so its in the right filter now
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On September 12 2013 12:06 WaveofShadow wrote:Show nested quote +On September 12 2013 12:03 VayneAuthority wrote:yea not just him WoS, the blubbdavid guy did the same thing -_- just posted a one liner and peaced out. Wouldn't mind a vig taking out either of those guys. If they aren't going to give us content, I don't want to be the one stuck at lylo with them. and I see you spotted the same thing I did in that grackaroni post, so glad we're on the same page. I disagree on that alone being vote worthy, but it definitely got me suspicious. I think I can safely say you aren't 3rd party this game We're not going to be stuck at LYLO period. Town is going to fucking WIN a game. I am curious about your non-3P read on me. What specifically do you notice as my '3P' play? Did you have me pegged in Aperture?
debears are you in this game? Don't see you on the player list.
it was more of a joke since I've been randomly calling you 3rd party lately. And I don't think I really even looked at you once in aperture so no. I was 3rd party as well and more focused on doin' my fake claim thing and annoying people for the lols.
I think it goes back to that basterd mini game where you didn't give two shits about the game so for me 3rd party WoS = doesn't care and you clearly care with that first post. But I think you told me in another game that the circumstances were different blhah blah something
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On September 12 2013 12:06 debears wrote: dag gummit. my cover is blown. didnt even make it past d1 That's impressive dibbers.
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wow so debears was lying that whole time about being suspicious of my aggressive play.
that changes a lot my friend, that slip could be your un-doing...
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@WoS
So you don't find a town perspective of asking the opinion of the person who is receiving a strong town read in the early game? Even I was curious about it for a bit.
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On September 12 2013 12:10 VayneAuthority wrote: wow so debears was lying that whole time about being suspicious of my aggressive play.
that changes a lot my friend, that slip could be your un-doing...
Where did I say this?
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I'm going to win the worst mafia play of the year award now
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On September 12 2013 12:09 VayneAuthority wrote:Show nested quote +On September 12 2013 12:06 WaveofShadow wrote:On September 12 2013 12:03 VayneAuthority wrote:yea not just him WoS, the blubbdavid guy did the same thing -_- just posted a one liner and peaced out. Wouldn't mind a vig taking out either of those guys. If they aren't going to give us content, I don't want to be the one stuck at lylo with them. and I see you spotted the same thing I did in that grackaroni post, so glad we're on the same page. I disagree on that alone being vote worthy, but it definitely got me suspicious. I think I can safely say you aren't 3rd party this game We're not going to be stuck at LYLO period. Town is going to fucking WIN a game. I am curious about your non-3P read on me. What specifically do you notice as my '3P' play? Did you have me pegged in Aperture? debears are you in this game? Don't see you on the player list.it was more of a joke since I've been randomly calling you 3rd party lately. And I don't think I really even looked at you once in aperture so no. I was 3rd party as well and more focused on doin' my fake claim thing and annoying people for the lols. I think it goes back to that basterd mini game where you didn't give two shits about the game so for me 3rd party WoS = doesn't care and you clearly care with that first post. But I think you told me in another game that the circumstances were different blhah blah something 3P is fun, isn't it?
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I mean we just had a whole argument and you voted me over me having a strong read on SnB early. and you just played with me in aperture.
game changer bro
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On September 12 2013 12:13 VayneAuthority wrote: I mean we just had a whole argument and you voted me over me having a strong read on SnB early. and you just played with me in aperture.
game changer bro
What?
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