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On August 31 2013 00:00 Clarity_nl wrote:Show nested quote +On August 30 2013 23:57 raynpelikoneet wrote:
I do not see any point in bringing up a speculation of multiple scumteams, especially from kita, as the game OP clearly states there are multiple scumteams. No it doesn't? Unless you consider Black Mesa a scumteam. But we know nothing of them @Koshi, Turns out the amulet wouldn't be SUPER awesome on me, but it would still be good. Turns out I can't attempt to do stuff for which I don't have the resources
Have you played/read other Aperture games? Because that's exactly what Black Mesa is. And kitaman very well knows that.
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On August 31 2013 00:09 Stutters695 wrote:Show nested quote +On August 31 2013 00:03 raynpelikoneet wrote:On August 31 2013 00:00 Clarity_nl wrote:On August 30 2013 23:57 raynpelikoneet wrote:
I do not see any point in bringing up a speculation of multiple scumteams, especially from kita, as the game OP clearly states there are multiple scumteams. No it doesn't? Unless you consider Black Mesa a scumteam. But we know nothing of them @Koshi, Turns out the amulet wouldn't be SUPER awesome on me, but it would still be good. Turns out I can't attempt to do stuff for which I don't have the resources Have you played/read other Aperture games? Because that's exactly what Black Mesa is. And kitaman very well knows that. Can you link to the black mesa thing from previous games?
I don't remember if it was necessarily Black Mesa, but Aperture mafia:
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=319120
VisceraEyes call tell you more about this. :D
kitaman played in that game.
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On August 31 2013 00:17 Stutters695 wrote:Show nested quote +On August 31 2013 00:13 raynpelikoneet wrote:On August 31 2013 00:09 Stutters695 wrote:On August 31 2013 00:03 raynpelikoneet wrote:On August 31 2013 00:00 Clarity_nl wrote:On August 30 2013 23:57 raynpelikoneet wrote:
I do not see any point in bringing up a speculation of multiple scumteams, especially from kita, as the game OP clearly states there are multiple scumteams. No it doesn't? Unless you consider Black Mesa a scumteam. But we know nothing of them @Koshi, Turns out the amulet wouldn't be SUPER awesome on me, but it would still be good. Turns out I can't attempt to do stuff for which I don't have the resources Have you played/read other Aperture games? Because that's exactly what Black Mesa is. And kitaman very well knows that. Can you link to the black mesa thing from previous games? I don't remember if it was necessarily Black Mesa, but Aperture mafia: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=319120VisceraEyes call tell you more about this. :D kitaman played in that game. I only see one scum team there. Am I missing something?
Sleeper Cell agents are another scumteam.
On August 31 2013 00:18 kitaman27 wrote:Show nested quote +On August 30 2013 23:57 raynpelikoneet wrote:
I do not see any point in bringing up a speculation of multiple scumteams, especially from kita, as the game OP clearly states there are multiple scumteams. If the OP makes it so clear, what is the harm in pointing it out? Mafia faction(s) are likely aware of the possibility so I'm just pointing it out so town is as well. It impacts the way you should be playing the game. Haunted and Insane 2 resulted in town loses for not adequately adapting to a multi-faction game. There are certain tricks you can use in a multi-faction game, such as chainsaw defending a scumbuddy against a mafia player of the opposing faction. Town circles should be tighter than usual and we can try to play off the faction rivalry to possibly gain additional information when a mafia player is about to be lynched. On the topic of the setup, something that I think was strongly underutilized in the first game was the item mechanic. Since items are passed on death, we can use them as an investigative tool to determine who is possibly carrying out a kill. This relies on some type of ability to identify who is holding an item, but there are probably other ways of taking advantage of this as well.
You are not pointing it out. You are speculating on something that should be pretty clear from reading the OP, especially to you.
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Why do you feel you need to be sorry Felkyr?
The game has just started.
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On August 31 2013 00:30 Felkyr wrote:
Well, I have read several posts who 'blame' the lurkers.
I do not think you can be labeled as lurker if you just noticed the game started, read it, and commented on it.
Does anyone stand out to you as scummy so far?
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kitaman, are you seriously assuming Black Mesa is not another scum team?
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On August 31 2013 00:47 kitaman27 wrote:Show nested quote +On August 31 2013 00:46 raynpelikoneet wrote:
kitaman, are you seriously assuming Black Mesa is not another scum team? No, I am assuming Black Mesa IS another scum team.
Okay, then why did you speculate them being another scum team in your post and did not state that as a fact?
To me just by reading the OP it is clear that they are another scumteam.
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On August 31 2013 00:51 kitaman27 wrote:Show nested quote +On August 31 2013 00:49 raynpelikoneet wrote:On August 31 2013 00:47 kitaman27 wrote:On August 31 2013 00:46 raynpelikoneet wrote:
kitaman, are you seriously assuming Black Mesa is not another scum team? No, I am assuming Black Mesa IS another scum team. Okay, then why did you speculate them being another scum team in your post and did not state that as a fact? To me just by reading the OP it is clear that they are another scumteam. A fact is something that I know to be true. Speculation is something I believe to be true. The OP does not state that Black Mesa consists of more than 1-2 members. I believe it does however based on the unwillingness to rebalance and the previous game.
The way your worded you post is really odd. You tried to justify the assumption not to what the OP said but to the "rebalancing difficulties". What i see in the OP is that there is stated:
These are the factions in game:
- Town
- Mafia
- Black Mesa
- There may or may not be something else (third parties)
There is like no way Black Mesa is not another "mafia" faction, whatever their wincon is. I think you are not being too vocal about that because that might imply to the other mafia faction that you know something you should not (based on your faction's number of members - or whatever) and you are afraid of being killed by them because of you saying "guys, there is another anti-town faction aswell, look at the OP, it's quite clear".
I think it is 100% clear based purely to OP that there is another anti-town faction that is Black Mesa. The way you brought the matter up is fishy and implies you are afraid of saying what you really think for some reason. I think that reason is because you are a member of mafia or Black Mesa and don't want to get killed by the other one, or lynched by town, because of "too much info".
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On August 31 2013 00:52 VisceraEyes wrote:
Hi I'm awake and reading. Did I miss anything important? Like did anyone die or anything?
I dunno. Let's kill kitanam! read my filter!
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On August 31 2013 01:05 kitaman27 wrote:Show nested quote +On August 31 2013 00:59 raynpelikoneet wrote:
I think it is 100% clear based purely to OP that there is another anti-town faction that is Black Mesa. The way you brought the matter up is fishy and implies you are afraid of saying what you really think for some reason. I think that reason is because you are a member of mafia or Black Mesa and don't want to get killed by the other one, or lynched by town, because of "too much info". Huh? We're coming to the same conclusion yet for some reason it makes me mafia? My argument about the balance was that I think Mesa is larger than smaller due to the rebalance concerns. I referenced the OP as support so it's not like I'm trying to hide knowledge or anything. Anyways, I'm going to drop it since it really was just setup speculation rather than anything super important. Push it if you wish.
Oh shit.. I am sorry, i fail at reading. I missed the word "large" in your post when you brought the matter up.
##Unvote;
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And yeah, that actually was important as some people (Clarity, Stutters) seem to have not noticed that. They are either not paying attention or they are scum.
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On August 31 2013 01:17 Clarity_nl wrote:Show nested quote +On August 31 2013 01:12 raynpelikoneet wrote:
And yeah, that actually was important as some people (Clarity, Stutters) seem to have not noticed that. They are either not paying attention or they are scum. What?
On August 31 2013 00:00 Clarity_nl wrote:Show nested quote +On August 30 2013 23:57 raynpelikoneet wrote:
I do not see any point in bringing up a speculation of multiple scumteams, especially from kita, as the game OP clearly states there are multiple scumteams. No it doesn't? Unless you consider Black Mesa a scumteam. But we know nothing of them@Koshi, Turns out the amulet wouldn't be SUPER awesome on me, but it would still be good. Turns out I can't attempt to do stuff for which I don't have the resources
I dunno. How did you not figure that out as they are clearly are a faction as stated in OP?
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On August 31 2013 01:26 Clarity_nl wrote:Show nested quote +On August 31 2013 01:20 raynpelikoneet wrote:On August 31 2013 01:17 Clarity_nl wrote:On August 31 2013 01:12 raynpelikoneet wrote:
And yeah, that actually was important as some people (Clarity, Stutters) seem to have not noticed that. They are either not paying attention or they are scum. What? On August 31 2013 00:00 Clarity_nl wrote:On August 30 2013 23:57 raynpelikoneet wrote:
I do not see any point in bringing up a speculation of multiple scumteams, especially from kita, as the game OP clearly states there are multiple scumteams. No it doesn't? Unless you consider Black Mesa a scumteam. But we know nothing of them@Koshi, Turns out the amulet wouldn't be SUPER awesome on me, but it would still be good. Turns out I can't attempt to do stuff for which I don't have the resources I dunno. How did you not figure that out as they are clearly are a faction as stated in OP? They're a faction, that doesn't make them a scumteam? When I think scumteam I think a group of people who have nightly kp and win when everyone else is dead. We certainly don't know if either of those are true. They COULD be a scumteam, they could not.
Scumteam, anti-town team, whatever.. but fair enough. Anyways i think we can agree that they are a team with more than one member that has a victory condition that probably will not help town win the game?
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On August 31 2013 01:33 VayneAuthority wrote:
cephiro, felkyr, obviousone all scum lol
this game is easy so far
cephiro - get softly discredited by multiple people for "caring about the game" when I play differently every game so it's just an excuse to have an opinion. My case is promptly swept under the rug and nobody ever mentions him again until he responds to my post.
Felkyr - how long did it take you to make that entrance post, an hour?
obviousone - Instead of going with town sentiment and finding me scummy he immediately jumps to a 3rd party conclusion since he knows I'm not on his scumteam. Very strange conclusion to draw this early in the game.
vayne, a couple of things:
- Why do you call out Cephiro especially when multiple people have expressed wanting to lynch you because of you entrance to the game, and told it does not make sense for you as town.
- Your read on OO especially makes me think you are mafia. No more to be said on that matter yet.
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What the fuck is with everyone suspecting someone to be third party?
Cephiro, ObviousOne, explain.
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vayne if your role is not useful any more i guess you can just claim it so we can deduce if you are telling the truth or not.
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And don't you fucking dare to call people out because they think you are town for trying to play "pro-town".
It's your own fault because every game as town you purposely try to look scummy for some fucking reason. What do you expect us to think when you do something completely different?
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EBWOP "because they think you are scum"
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Anyways i am willing to believe vayne's claim.
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No guys, vayne is not gonna panic as mafia for getting a couple of people suspecting him. That's not what he does. It's far more likely that he is town and got frustrated given his claim. It makes far more sense. And yes, he usually plays purposely bad, i have no idea why, but that's what he does.
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