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Risen
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States7927 Posts
October 01 2013 14:49 GMT
#5431
On October 01 2013 23:48 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 01 2013 23:46 Risen wrote:
I don't want to lynch FT anymore... I somehow glossed over the implications of his case on decon. I'd say decon is scum for the same reasons FT just did and kita your calling out of him makes no sense there. We now know cephiro is scum, decon's vote switch off of him onto geript, a confirmed townie (though unconfirmed at the time), is sketch as fuck. The thing that gets me about that post is decon seeing Cephiro react outlandishly to a post and say "Oh totes a town reaction, unvote and get onto geript" for 0 reasoning given. Town doesn't do this. Town doesn't also, earlier in their filter (which is 1 page + 1 post wtf?), call out people for having a 5 vote lynch d1 then leave their vote on geript d2 with two major candidates.

After simmering and going through filters, I want stutters dead. Decon is a VERY close second, though, and for the time being I don't want to see FT lynched.

That's actually a really good point on deconduo.
What do you think of iamp Risen?

Why is he alive?
Pufftrees Everyday>its like a rifter that just used X-Factor/Liquid'Nony: I hope no one lip read XD/Holyflare>it's like policy lynching but better/Resident Los Angeles bachelor
Risen
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States7927 Posts
October 01 2013 14:51 GMT
#5433
EBWOP: That was unfair and paints him as scum. Iamp's reads have been solid this game, to the Risen of today's mind. That's all I can say about him.
Pufftrees Everyday>its like a rifter that just used X-Factor/Liquid'Nony: I hope no one lip read XD/Holyflare>it's like policy lynching but better/Resident Los Angeles bachelor
Risen
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States7927 Posts
October 01 2013 14:53 GMT
#5434
There's a lot of filler, but there's more substance in his posting than about 95% of my posts prior to my waking up this morning. Not a lynch candidate.
Pufftrees Everyday>its like a rifter that just used X-Factor/Liquid'Nony: I hope no one lip read XD/Holyflare>it's like policy lynching but better/Resident Los Angeles bachelor
Risen
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States7927 Posts
October 01 2013 14:54 GMT
#5436
On September 27 2013 10:59 iamperfection wrote:
people that i have no clue or somewhat not sure

stutters- i Have no idea he is almost always useless

Kush- Whiner complainer who knows. Says he is sick which i could see him lying about. See if he actually replaces

Umasi- Still like the point that firm brought up and he really hasn't talked about the game much. some of the things he talked about regarding sent seem weird i guess? Like i don't really understand the point he is trying to make but he seems just as confused as me so hey maybe he is town.

VisceraEyes- Like i dont get his apathy earlier but he has said some things that makes sense botherd to show up and seemed to care about the lynch. Maybe that a sign he is town because he seems somewhat all over the place like his thoughts kind of change pretty fluidly recently with regards to me so could be trying to figure things.

-------------------------------------
Scummers

cephiro- i sheep marv

Decondu- Regardless of what cephiros alignment is i think he is scum. http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=423071&currentpage=191#3813 His reasoning is makes no sense and he never explains even when called out for that crap. After being called out he does absolutely nothing up until the deadline. No discussion no attempts to figure out alignments or establish his innocence. Combine this with terrible activity but ability to be around the lynch apparently. He isn't hunting scum because he is scum.


Sent- this is bad http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=423071&currentpage=45#888 it was just a long excuse to vote coag for no real reason listing lurkers is even worse than lurkers because it a way to look like your contributing . so is this http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=423071&currentpage=85#1699 say absolutely nothing on a major topic while subtly supporting it and then when he votes for him hes not very clear on why he is scum just he has regressed from an earlier game. Also didn't like his response to the claim. He just immediately believes it and i know he had a town read on him but still townies are naturally supicious he dosnt go look he dosnt freak out much just proclaiming ha i was right fuck you guys i don't see the figuring out of alignments near the deadline


Risen- Hes not contributing he is just calling town bad and has apathy that i think is fake. All he does is shit on town and say herp derp town not listening to me. He isnt trying hard to push lynches. Townies want to lynch scum and it seems he just wants to over exaggerate town mistakes and complain rather than hunt scum.


im also having a hard time finding a ton of definite scum reads so i think its possible that molango slot could be scum or an active scum but i have a hard time finding active scum unless im super familiar with them.


Pufftrees Everyday>its like a rifter that just used X-Factor/Liquid'Nony: I hope no one lip read XD/Holyflare>it's like policy lynching but better/Resident Los Angeles bachelor
Risen
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States7927 Posts
October 01 2013 14:55 GMT
#5437
EBWOP I hit post on accident instead of preview.

continuing...

into

On September 30 2013 13:38 iamperfection wrote:
Ve I would have to take a very long look if he actually plans on not commenting and posting his list all day I'll kill him though

Stutters I could kill

Ft no

Pufftrees Everyday>its like a rifter that just used X-Factor/Liquid'Nony: I hope no one lip read XD/Holyflare>it's like policy lynching but better/Resident Los Angeles bachelor
Risen
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States7927 Posts
October 01 2013 15:00 GMT
#5441
JAT blank the thread and just read those four's filters. This isn't a lurker lynch on Stutters, this is a liar lynch. His being a lurker just makes it seem like a lurker lynch.
Pufftrees Everyday>its like a rifter that just used X-Factor/Liquid'Nony: I hope no one lip read XD/Holyflare>it's like policy lynching but better/Resident Los Angeles bachelor
Risen
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States7927 Posts
October 01 2013 15:07 GMT
#5443
On October 01 2013 23:56 [UoN]Sentinel wrote:
I maintain that the first post you quoted brings up nearly zero new evidence and simply brings up things others have said before

It isn't just the first post. It's the first post rolling into the second I meant to post. I'm not saying iamp is town, I have a null read on him because I think he might know too much and that's why his reads feel good. This is me saying he shouldn't be the lynch today because a scum member (if he's scum) who's going to give us knowledge backed reads with cases is someone I would like to keep around. If he's alive past tonight I'll be shocked. I'd kill him if I was scum. Or I'd kill me.

I think the lynch today comes down to Mocsta or Stutters. Mocsta if you believe town can't be stupid and/or his play needs to be punished (I was in camp #2 since I had given up on the game). If you have other reasoning you need to post an actual case on Mocsta. I haven't seen one go beyond parroting my stance on town not fake claiming against a claimed doctor, which still holds water, just not as much as what makes stutters scum. Stutters if you believe someone who has lied about what they would do this game and lurked instead while making anti-town posts (largely filler).
Pufftrees Everyday>its like a rifter that just used X-Factor/Liquid'Nony: I hope no one lip read XD/Holyflare>it's like policy lynching but better/Resident Los Angeles bachelor
Risen
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States7927 Posts
October 01 2013 15:48 GMT
#5468
On October 02 2013 00:12 Mocsta wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 02 2013 00:07 Risen wrote:
On October 01 2013 23:56 [UoN]Sentinel wrote:
I maintain that the first post you quoted brings up nearly zero new evidence and simply brings up things others have said before

It isn't just the first post. It's the first post rolling into the second I meant to post. I'm not saying iamp is town, I have a null read on him because I think he might know too much and that's why his reads feel good. This is me saying he shouldn't be the lynch today because a scum member (if he's scum) who's going to give us knowledge backed reads with cases is someone I would like to keep around. If he's alive past tonight I'll be shocked. I'd kill him if I was scum. Or I'd kill me.

I think the lynch today comes down to Mocsta or Stutters. Mocsta if you believe town can't be stupid and/or his play needs to be punished (I was in camp #2 since I had given up on the game). If you have other reasoning you need to post an actual case on Mocsta. I haven't seen one go beyond parroting my stance on town not fake claiming against a claimed doctor, which still holds water, just not as much as what makes stutters scum. Stutters if you believe someone who has lied about what they would do this game and lurked instead while making anti-town posts (largely filler).

You are an absolute moron.
I made a case on Stutters days ago. But, of course its bussing even though the things I wrote are the exact same problems you all have with him now.

Fucken imbecile you are.

My post was a defense of you.
Pufftrees Everyday>its like a rifter that just used X-Factor/Liquid'Nony: I hope no one lip read XD/Holyflare>it's like policy lynching but better/Resident Los Angeles bachelor
Risen
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States7927 Posts
October 01 2013 15:49 GMT
#5469
On October 02 2013 00:18 kitaman27 wrote:
FT > iamp > Mocsta > Stutters > deconduo is my current preference out of the top five.

I would be pretty happy with either of the top two though.

Are you scum?
Pufftrees Everyday>its like a rifter that just used X-Factor/Liquid'Nony: I hope no one lip read XD/Holyflare>it's like policy lynching but better/Resident Los Angeles bachelor
Risen
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States7927 Posts
October 01 2013 15:51 GMT
#5471
On October 02 2013 00:49 kitaman27 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 02 2013 00:49 Risen wrote:
On October 02 2013 00:18 kitaman27 wrote:
FT > iamp > Mocsta > Stutters > deconduo is my current preference out of the top five.

I would be pretty happy with either of the top two though.

Are you scum?


No, do you think I am?

I don't see how you can have stutters so low and FT so high as town. So yes.
Pufftrees Everyday>its like a rifter that just used X-Factor/Liquid'Nony: I hope no one lip read XD/Holyflare>it's like policy lynching but better/Resident Los Angeles bachelor
Risen
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States7927 Posts
October 01 2013 15:51 GMT
#5472
On October 02 2013 00:43 kitaman27 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 02 2013 00:00 Risen wrote:
JAT blank the thread and just read those four's filters. This isn't a lurker lynch on Stutters, this is a liar lynch. His being a lurker just makes it seem like a lurker lynch.


Stutters seems like the most likely mislynch bait in my opinion.

I don't think a "liar lynch" really makes sense, since a town or a mafia player really wouldn't want say they are working on a post, then never deliver. There is no scum benefit for saying something like that and then going away. He has been pretty much absent the last few days. I can see him being town, I can see him being mafia. I would much rather go after a player with a filter that you can actually analyze when a kp is one the line.

How can you say this and have FT at the top of people you want lynched?
Pufftrees Everyday>its like a rifter that just used X-Factor/Liquid'Nony: I hope no one lip read XD/Holyflare>it's like policy lynching but better/Resident Los Angeles bachelor
Risen
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States7927 Posts
October 01 2013 16:08 GMT
#5477
I don't know man. If you look through my posting history you'll see it riddled with things like my posting "this town is stupid" and I know that I'm town. So I don't take self-awareness as an anti-town trait.
Pufftrees Everyday>its like a rifter that just used X-Factor/Liquid'Nony: I hope no one lip read XD/Holyflare>it's like policy lynching but better/Resident Los Angeles bachelor
Risen
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States7927 Posts
October 01 2013 16:09 GMT
#5478
On October 02 2013 01:07 Mocsta wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 02 2013 00:48 Risen wrote:
On October 02 2013 00:12 Mocsta wrote:
On October 02 2013 00:07 Risen wrote:
On October 01 2013 23:56 [UoN]Sentinel wrote:
I maintain that the first post you quoted brings up nearly zero new evidence and simply brings up things others have said before

It isn't just the first post. It's the first post rolling into the second I meant to post. I'm not saying iamp is town, I have a null read on him because I think he might know too much and that's why his reads feel good. This is me saying he shouldn't be the lynch today because a scum member (if he's scum) who's going to give us knowledge backed reads with cases is someone I would like to keep around. If he's alive past tonight I'll be shocked. I'd kill him if I was scum. Or I'd kill me.

I think the lynch today comes down to Mocsta or Stutters. Mocsta if you believe town can't be stupid and/or his play needs to be punished (I was in camp #2 since I had given up on the game). If you have other reasoning you need to post an actual case on Mocsta. I haven't seen one go beyond parroting my stance on town not fake claiming against a claimed doctor, which still holds water, just not as much as what makes stutters scum. Stutters if you believe someone who has lied about what they would do this game and lurked instead while making anti-town posts (largely filler).

You are an absolute moron.
I made a case on Stutters days ago. But, of course its bussing even though the things I wrote are the exact same problems you all have with him now.

Fucken imbecile you are.

My post was a defense of you.
Show nested quote +
On October 02 2013 00:07 Risen wrote:I think the lynch today comes down to Mocsta or Stutters.

/sarcasm: Nice defense.....

I'm getting concerned now though, because I know I am town.
I also know Geript had a solid case on you; and I dont recall you tearing it down. (Just checked filter, and you definitely didn't respond to it)

Yet you parade in here, trying to control the lynch.

Show nested quote +
On September 27 2013 11:33 Risen wrote:
After Cephiro, Mocsta, and FT are dead Geript should probably be the next to go. No way a townie tries to do anything to this Cephiro train. On top of this it comes off as a scum Geript trying to nitpick town posts in an attempt to get a mislynch. He saw something he felt he could exploit (he knew marv was town, and he knew marv would flip with the daypost) and is now trying to push it.
Where did your FT read go?


Do you actually read anything I write? How about you fucking stop being a cunt and go read what I fucking wrote. If you're town don't ever fuckin' talk to me again.
Pufftrees Everyday>its like a rifter that just used X-Factor/Liquid'Nony: I hope no one lip read XD/Holyflare>it's like policy lynching but better/Resident Los Angeles bachelor
Risen
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States7927 Posts
October 01 2013 16:13 GMT
#5480
On October 02 2013 01:12 justanothertownie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 02 2013 01:07 Mocsta wrote:
On October 02 2013 00:48 Risen wrote:
On October 02 2013 00:12 Mocsta wrote:
On October 02 2013 00:07 Risen wrote:
On October 01 2013 23:56 [UoN]Sentinel wrote:
I maintain that the first post you quoted brings up nearly zero new evidence and simply brings up things others have said before

It isn't just the first post. It's the first post rolling into the second I meant to post. I'm not saying iamp is town, I have a null read on him because I think he might know too much and that's why his reads feel good. This is me saying he shouldn't be the lynch today because a scum member (if he's scum) who's going to give us knowledge backed reads with cases is someone I would like to keep around. If he's alive past tonight I'll be shocked. I'd kill him if I was scum. Or I'd kill me.

I think the lynch today comes down to Mocsta or Stutters. Mocsta if you believe town can't be stupid and/or his play needs to be punished (I was in camp #2 since I had given up on the game). If you have other reasoning you need to post an actual case on Mocsta. I haven't seen one go beyond parroting my stance on town not fake claiming against a claimed doctor, which still holds water, just not as much as what makes stutters scum. Stutters if you believe someone who has lied about what they would do this game and lurked instead while making anti-town posts (largely filler).

You are an absolute moron.
I made a case on Stutters days ago. But, of course its bussing even though the things I wrote are the exact same problems you all have with him now.

Fucken imbecile you are.

My post was a defense of you.
On October 02 2013 00:07 Risen wrote:I think the lynch today comes down to Mocsta or Stutters.

/sarcasm: Nice defense.....

I'm getting concerned now though, because I know I am town.
I also know Geript had a solid case on you; and I dont recall you tearing it down. (Just checked filter, and you definitely didn't respond to it)

Yet you parade in here, trying to control the lynch.

On September 27 2013 11:33 Risen wrote:
After Cephiro, Mocsta, and FT are dead Geript should probably be the next to go. No way a townie tries to do anything to this Cephiro train. On top of this it comes off as a scum Geript trying to nitpick town posts in an attempt to get a mislynch. He saw something he felt he could exploit (he knew marv was town, and he knew marv would flip with the daypost) and is now trying to push it.
Where did your FT read go?

Where did the ZEN-like feeling go?

I tried...
Pufftrees Everyday>its like a rifter that just used X-Factor/Liquid'Nony: I hope no one lip read XD/Holyflare>it's like policy lynching but better/Resident Los Angeles bachelor
Risen
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States7927 Posts
October 01 2013 16:14 GMT
#5481
EBWOP: Oh that wasn't at me... yeah...
Pufftrees Everyday>its like a rifter that just used X-Factor/Liquid'Nony: I hope no one lip read XD/Holyflare>it's like policy lynching but better/Resident Los Angeles bachelor
Risen
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States7927 Posts
October 01 2013 16:18 GMT
#5487
On October 02 2013 00:07 Risen wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 01 2013 23:56 [UoN]Sentinel wrote:
I maintain that the first post you quoted brings up nearly zero new evidence and simply brings up things others have said before

It isn't just the first post. It's the first post rolling into the second I meant to post. I'm not saying iamp is town, I have a null read on him because I think he might know too much and that's why his reads feel good. This is me saying he shouldn't be the lynch today because a scum member (if he's scum) who's going to give us knowledge backed reads with cases is someone I would like to keep around. If he's alive past tonight I'll be shocked. I'd kill him if I was scum. Or I'd kill me.

I think the lynch today comes down to Mocsta or Stutters. Mocsta if you believe town can't be stupid and/or his play needs to be punished (I was in camp #2 since I had given up on the game). If you have other reasoning you need to post an actual case on Mocsta. I haven't seen one go beyond parroting my stance on town not fake claiming against a claimed doctor, which still holds water, just not as much as what makes stutters scum. Stutters if you believe someone who has lied about what they would do this game and lurked instead while making anti-town posts (largely filler).

Would a town Mocsta really miss this part twice? Three times now?
Pufftrees Everyday>its like a rifter that just used X-Factor/Liquid'Nony: I hope no one lip read XD/Holyflare>it's like policy lynching but better/Resident Los Angeles bachelor
Risen
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States7927 Posts
October 01 2013 16:20 GMT
#5488
EBWOP: And I ignored just about everything Geript posted. He's a horrible mafia player, why did you even bother reading anything he wrote?
Pufftrees Everyday>its like a rifter that just used X-Factor/Liquid'Nony: I hope no one lip read XD/Holyflare>it's like policy lynching but better/Resident Los Angeles bachelor
Risen
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States7927 Posts
October 01 2013 16:22 GMT
#5491
You didn't read it because you saw the first sentence and went blind-mode because you're a bad mafia player just like Geript. Anyways, ignoring you now.
Pufftrees Everyday>its like a rifter that just used X-Factor/Liquid'Nony: I hope no one lip read XD/Holyflare>it's like policy lynching but better/Resident Los Angeles bachelor
Risen
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States7927 Posts
October 01 2013 16:41 GMT
#5498
Going point by point

1) Calling out bad reasoning is a thing I do. This isn't even anti-town, it's pro-town. Geript viewing it as a scum play is just him trying to make posts fit his case. It's a symptom of a bad mafia player.

2) Of course it was easy, I made a post, saw FT's horrible post, and since I already had them both as scum reads it made it easy to switch to FT. What's scummy about this? See point 1, it's Geript forcing my play into his view he holds. He's bad at mafia, why are you even reading his cases?

3) I didn't try to discredit anyone, I pointed out an error in his play. Anyone who ever posts "I am confirmed town" before they flip gets scum points from me. It's a seriously scummy thing to do. It made me entertain the idea that Yamato was part of a big scum play. That isn't pro-town at all. Geript once again shows that he's a bad mafia player by saying I was dirt flinging here. Dirt flinging is calling someone bad, which I do plenty of, but I wasn't doing that there.

4) Out of nowhere? I straight up say it's a nitpick in the same post, but at that point I don't have much else to go on with people. His point about anyone reading the OP and expecting a framer in the game is bullshit, and if he wasn't so horrible at mafia he'd know it. The list of roles in the game was a potential list. For all we know there is no framer in this game. We have Mr. CC claiming someone framed someone else, but he isn't flipped. He has to be killed by scum tonight, if he's still around tomorrow he's going to appear very scummy to me. And Sent isn't out of nowhere, I very clearly say I agree with OO's point on Sent in the same post. I still don't get good vibes from Sent, but at this point it's more because I don't really remember anything about Sent's posting in a 275 page game.

5) Fairly large nitpick. I have so much filler in my filter and he goes into a post with actual content to find filler? I posted the line in question because at the time I had a null read on Matt. I didn't want my defense to be construed as me reading Matt as town and therefor defending him. In a very similar manner, my recent defense of Mocsta doesn't mean I have a town read on him.

6) It was a scummy defense, I called LM out on it. Sure we know he's town now, but he wasn't confirmed town or even a doctor claim at the time he made it. Cephiro was one of my top scum reads at the time, and this defense of Ceph didn't sit well with me at all. Geript, still being bad, calls it shit flinging when it very clearly isn't. The guy needs to play in some newbie games, this kind of play isn't even acceptable in newbie games. It's downright atrocious.

7) Finally a solid point. Sure it's a hostmeta post, but when I made it I didn't feel it to be bullshit at all.

8) I don't even understand this. In the same post where I call FT scum I'm saying Cephiro is someone I could easily lynch, and then Geript says he isn't a scum read. This is just a case of Geript, once again, trying to fit me to his preconceived notions. He's a bad mafia player, why do you even read anything he posts? Because he's confirmed town now that he's flipped? The backdoor argument is the only thing that holds water in this point.

9) FT was my scum read over Cephiro at the time. I was stating my intent to leave the thread, but that I would swap over should Cephiro become a candidate over FT. Unfortunately, I wasn't in the thread for the rest of the day or I would have moved my vote.

I think that about wraps up how utterly horrible Geript is, and how horrible Mocsta is. We already knew Mocsta was horrible, though, so no suprise there.
Pufftrees Everyday>its like a rifter that just used X-Factor/Liquid'Nony: I hope no one lip read XD/Holyflare>it's like policy lynching but better/Resident Los Angeles bachelor
Risen
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States7927 Posts
October 01 2013 16:43 GMT
#5499
On October 02 2013 01:26 Mocsta wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 02 2013 00:07 Risen wrote:
I think the lynch today comes down to Mocsta or Stutters.

Mocsta if you believe town can't be stupid and/or his play needs to be punished (I was in camp #2 since I had given up on the game).

If you have other reasoning you need to post an actual case on Mocsta. I haven't seen one go beyond parroting my stance on town not fake claiming against a claimed doctor, which still holds water, just not as much as what makes stutters scum.

Stutters if you believe someone who has lied about what they would do this game and lurked instead while making anti-town posts (largely filler).
There is zero defense of me; unless you are referring to me being your #2 scum read, instead of #1. If so, you're still a fucking imbecile.

The Geript case is awaiting.

1st green
That is a defense. It's me saying voting Mocsta at this point is because you're bad at this game. It's insulting to you, sure, but it's also a defense.

2nd green
Also a defense. You're not the most pro-town player, and I acknowledge that in my defense of you, but I'm saying anyone voting you needs to make an actual case or their vote is just scummy and not considerate of how bad you are at the game.

The post was a defense. You're bad at mafia, go play in newbies.
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