Newbie Mini Mafia XLV - Page 13

On August 11 2013 05:08 Blazinghand wrote:
Well played, Umasi. Good job, gotard. I'll seek the standard inactivity ban for scam.

nightcat, your shot was fine. not legendary, but reasonable-- he'd have been lynched otherwise without much discussion
Stimaddict, I feel like as a blue you had more of a responsability to lead town, to use your power, to carry on infi's legacy.

infii town mvp

On August 11 2013 05:58 StiMaDDict wrote:
Next time, I should look more into who scum decides to kill as well as who people are voting. I think if I looked more into Holyflare and Infi posts before they died, I might have made a better decision. But again, Alakaslam was afk and I wouldn't have been able to convince Deus to vote Umasi.

Also, it seems as in all four games that I played, I may suck at scumhunting (pretty awful I'll admit), but I'm pretty much confirmed town (yeah, in this game I was mason but still).

On August 01 2013 05:44 reps)squishy wrote:
Anyone, anyone! That defends me in the smallest way (Usami) you should be super suspicious of them it's the oldest move in the mafia strategy.


Here is his defense.

Anyone that votes to lynch me is town. Mafia won't waste a lynch someone that the town is going to lynch already.

On August 01 2013 09:28 Holyflare wrote:


It's like you've ignored every attempt we've tried to save you....... just vote this guy out.

On August 01 2013 08:08 Gotard wrote:

There's is still a lot of time left until deadline. You can't panic and posts like "oh", "Happy?" or hue hue picture doesn't help and are not pro town in any way because all they do is taking away all of the attention and you lose your chance to create good content. Your defense so far is "hello i'm noob! Hue hue! happy? no? eeh!? I read some guides don't lynch me!". If you are pressured you need to prove your innocence not by crying for help but by being useful for town.

Read guides, read your filter. Do you think you are pro town? I don't think so.

On August 03 2013 07:05 infii wrote:
SUMMONING WALL OF TEXT HIIIIYYYAAAAAAA!!!

Ok first of all: why is this thread so active during night time?
It doesn't matter if you are discussing only scum reads. Every information scum gets during night is detrimental for town. At least that is how my logic works...

Next up, I am sure I do have a pretty good idea of who is scum, especially after analysing the last posts before the lynch. And even if I make myself a no.1-to-murder-target with this, we can still beat the scum!

Scum team: Umasi, Gotard, Sc_am (still 50/50 on scam but he blends in the team really well atm)

Scum is playing as a team. I will elaborate why this is important first:

- everyone in the scum team knows who the other scum members are
- first priority is not to allow any reads on the connection between the scum team
- you can cloak your connection by distributing different roles for each member

If you think about this trio as a team where,
Umasi is the vocal one, spamming in the thread and mostly trying to steer the conversation in a certain direction playing something like "shady town".
Gotard is the "reserved town" playing thoughtful and acting passive-agressive (e.g. with votes on weak targets) and
sc_am is the lurker in the team, mostly not writing at all but just enough to not get modkilled, also playing "innocent/newbie town".

Neither of them have really accused each other of being scum until the end of night 1!
The majority of their comments of each other were something along the line of: "I have no idea what xx is up to" and "I will elaborate on xx later on".

Now to my strongest read which is Usami:

He voted second on reps, which is pretty early, with no real evidence at hand. After it was clear that reps will get lynched he unvoted reps with the following reasoning:



"I can help win this game much more then RDaneelOlivaw or sc_a.M."

That was reason enough to let his suspicion fall after discussing about him for almost half of day1? Really?

His next post:



"No lynching is stupid"

...11 minutes later:



Now no-lynching isn't that stupid anymore?

...his next post was the closest thing I could find for an explanation on his vote:



I don't really see any explanation about his vote here. He even uses information he got after the lynch.
Also defending gotard by legitimating his aggressiveness early on.

To recap things, I think Umasi is trying to lead town to lynch another townsman with his very active and spammy behaviour. He should be the next lynch target imo, unless he states a flawless and logic defense.


Now on to gotard.
His first most noticeable action was an early, seemingly random, vote on me.



At this point I looked weak/neutral because I didn't want to determine myself on something as it was still early on day1. So I was a possibly easy-to-lynch target from scum perspective.
However I stated Umasi as my primary scum target and if we assume gotard and umasi being part of the scum team, that was another good reason for him to jump on me.

Following after that were several accusations on which I tried to defend myself.
I'd like to quote slam here:



That is what I was asking myself all the time. I defended myself like Gotard wanted - not enough. I wrote a wall of text going in-depth on my arguments in full detail - still not enough.
But it makes sense now. You can argue all you want with scum, if they're on to you, one will never get clear.


sc_a.m

...

He has exactly 3 posts in his history in which he said something. (I didn't even say contributed!)

The most important quote:



If I understand him correctly he tells us that he had a similiar mindset to reps. But watching reps getting all the attention, he didn't want to end up like him. So if we follow his thought process, day2 would be the time for him to come up on stage and state his results of analysis to avoid any random lynching. If he does not do that, with all his passiveness and the pro no-lynch, he is pretty much scum (with the small possibility of him being town but gave up on playing mafia)


I am very curious how day2 will unfold!

PS.: I did not read holy's last minute analysis before posting if this is of any importance later on.

On August 04 2013 06:17 Zyrre wrote:

The quote about mafia playstyle? It's a statement about how MOST mafia will play, so only a general guideline. You should factor it in of course, it simply means less blending in = less likely to be mafia.
You however, had several posts stating you are suspicious of Usami, went on to say you will look in to him more deeply and then disregarded it all with that quote alone.


I guess I overlooked it a bit, it all sounded reasonable at the time. As you can see in my earlier posts, I was unsure of him but didn't think having him alive was too dangerous(he was posting a lot so high possibility of making mistakes if he is mafia, he was giving a few pieces of good advice etc).

On August 02 2013 08:19 RDaneelOlivaw wrote:
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Not necessarily the most to go on, but these two posts are a bit strangely contradictory. Really seems like there was an early game play to distract attention by getting everyone focused on squishy. I think one of the biggest things to do is go back and look at the instigators of the suspicscion on him.

With that in mind, Gotard's early vote still strikes me as suspicious. It too looks like another attempt to kind of stir up the pot unnecessarily...he did try to explain it but I'm just not satisified.

I have no clue what game alaksam is playing. That being said, he's gone so out of his way to demonstrate pro-towniness its a little strange...he was really working to position himself as in the clear if reps flipped green, which may just be good play but deserves to be remembered

Usami's last minute switch was stupid as either mafia or townie...I don't really get a good read off of it

On August 04 2013 13:43 Nightcat99 wrote:
i like tsunami, can we call him that from now on?