Newbie Mini Mafia XLIV

On July 13 2013 09:55 Umasi wrote:
Superfluous, do you have any current scum reads?

On July 13 2013 10:59 Chromatically wrote:

Superfluous looks really bad, he's been apologetic in his posts (not trying to rock the boat) and has only said what others have already said. It looks like he's trying hard to find anything to post about because he wants to look active.


It's extremely odd that he specifically points out Cloud-9 as opposed to any of the other players who haven't posted. This shows pretty clearly that he's not trying at all to find scum, he doesn't even know who hasn't posted.

Also looking at Kirby.

Lurkers be lurking.

On July 14 2013 05:17 Umasi wrote:


You could also be trying to relieve pressure from yourself because you're scum /gasp

You literally just told us "I have not been scumhunting, I am just trying not to die"

On July 14 2013 06:52 hzflank wrote:

To conclude, Super's priorities seem to be
1) Stay Alive
2) Find a person to vote for
3) Find justifications for voting

That is how scum plays and that is not how town plays.

##Vote: Superfluous

Guys, we need to get our shit together if we want a lynch. Don't forget we need at least 7 people on 1 guy. Both look perfect targets, let's try to come to a consensus now so that the more inactive people can follow us if they pop in.

I would say that Sponge and Umasi try to work this out and they give us final target? It seems that Chroma made the kirby case and that hzflank made the super case.

Me, StiM and all others should FOLLOW lead.

Can we get a Super lynch going? Chromatically could you please consider this? Don't you think that Kirby is better for town if both Kirby and Super are at this point equally scum? Kirby posts much better than Super, if Kirby is scum I feel like it will be easier to catch him later on than Super.
I see that you guys (StiM, Croma) are thinking that I am scum. It's fine by me, we can discuss it later, I am not going to stop posting, I am during Europe times online A LOT, you can keep grilling me.

. It struck me the wrong way, and I interpreted it as he was waiting for a reason to lynch me, not that he wasn't going to at all.

On July 15 2013 06:53 Hurricane Sponge wrote:
@Superfluous

Can you post a list of your Town and Scum reads like kirby did in case you die tonight?

On July 15 2013 08:06 Koshi wrote:
I am just going to trow this out here. But with a pending superfluous lynch. Do we want to see superfluous roleclaim? If he claims blue we might want to let him stay alive? It is up to scum to kill him tonight? Or not?

I realize fluff is fluff but maybe we want this to happen?

On July 15 2013 08:15 Koshi wrote:

I actually didn't know kirby was leading atm. I don't understand how this change happened but it happened.

On July 15 2013 08:21 Nightcat99 wrote:
and i disagree with the role claim because if they are going to die theres no reason for the scum to know we are missing a blue or if there are enough scum vote to save them last sec and switch to someone else that would be worst, cause now they can get 2 people

On July 16 2013 10:00 Xzavier wrote:
well shit 2 of my 3 top scumreads just died, leaving 1 alone at the top:

sup super.

##VOTE SUPERFLUOUS

this will be removed once you start some LIGIT scumhunting none of that "vote for one guy, make a case on another guy" bullshits okay?

if i dont think youve done an adequate job/you look more scummy as the day goes on expect this to stay, and a case to be made along with it.

On July 18 2013 07:41 Xzavier wrote:
an hour and 12 minutes before the deadline.

called it.

who are you voting son and why shouldnt we lynch you?

On July 18 2013 07:50 Xzavier wrote:
Yeah, it fucking sucks though because alakazam came out of nowhere being batshit crazy and makes me want to lynch him almost as much as i want to lynch you.

Im looking at it like this:

at LYLO do i want:

PLAYER A: posts a good amount and makes zero sense and gives you headaches

PLAYER B: lurks and contributes minimally.


however i like your point about umasi.

and what made umasi a more obvious NK target then chrom or hurricane?

On July 18 2013 08:56 Umasi wrote:



haha thank you for pointing that out (about me)
you're absolutely correct!
I've been lazy!

I was not leading town, the way I've been playing is NOT leading town. I just pipe up and throw my thoughts in there wherever I feel they're necessary, which is pretty much whenever I read the thread. I've been at the computer less constantly than I was for day one, though.
That said
please make something of it compared to just muttering about it~~you can feel whatever you want. Does this make me a scumread of yours?

On July 19 2013 02:13 Hurricane Sponge wrote:


I'm struggling with this comment. Gotard threw this out right before he was lynched. His death looked inevitable to me, although I suppose he could have thought there were going to be shenanigans at the deadline. The takeaways from this comment's inconsistency with his recent read of Superfluous being a scum read break down into a 2x2 grid: The two variables are Super is Scum / Super is Town, and Gotard Thought He Could Live / Gotard Knew He Was Dead. Matrix below:

-------------------------
Super is Scum / Gotard Thinks He Can Live:

1.) Gotard thinks he can live; he and Super are scum. Throws out a new Town read on Super as protection instinct. Solo votes Nightcat.

Super is Scum / Gotard Knows He Will Die:

2.) Gotard knows he's going to die; thinks giving Super a Town read on a scumbuddy is a good play for some reason (help with this please?).

Super is Town / Gotard Knows He Will Die:

3.) Gotard knows he's going to die (and flip red) and is trying to mindrape us into thinking Super is his scumbuddy by creating this new association so close to his flip. (Is it too sophisticated a play to assume from Gotard?)

Super is Town / Gotard Thinks He Can Live:

4.) Gotard thinks he can live; he knows Super is town. (I cannot come up with a plausible explanation for his comment.)

-------------------

Now, we obviously can't rule anything out based on Super's alignment (because we don't know it!) right now, but we might be able to speculate on whether we think / can find evidence of whether Gotard knew he was doomed last night or if he thought he could somehow avoid the day's lynch.

At first blush, I feel like Gotard didn't realize how much of a slam dunk lynch he was. He was still throwing out passive accusations, and (sort of) playing the game. There were no martyr posts, no attempt to defend the accusations against him, and he may not have realized just how much trouble he was in. The last post that I'd call a 'defense' came timestamped July 17th, 20:11. When he posted it, there were only 3 votes on him. Once the hz, 'slam, Gotard and Nightcat votes come in on him (early timestamp July 18th 1:12 - 4:00) Gotard doesn't post another formal defense for the rest of the game.

I know that play this poor this may seem hard to believe to some of us, but based on the quality of Gotard's play to this point, I believe it's possible he didn't know how super screwed he was. His last post comes 2.5 hours before Superfluous' vote on him, so it's possible that with Super gone from the mafia QT for most of Day 2, Gotard was flying solo or at least down a man when he was posting.

I'd like people's thoughts on this line of thinking. Did it seem to you like Gotard knew he'd be lynched yesterday?

On July 19 2013 02:49 hzflank wrote:


There are 9 players left in the game and it is the night phase. Why do you give 5 town reads, 1 weak scum read and then passively FoS the other 2 players?

If there are things that you do not like about me then this is the time to explore them, as opposed to just giving your town reads.

On July 19 2013 09:12 Nightcat99 wrote:



but the roleblocker, gotard died yesterday, there is 2? geez this game is confusing, i would not have called hzflank a scum.....

and i wish , we knew who sponge checked, he shall have posted his checks since it was very likely he was going to die.

On July 19 2013 09:17 Umasi wrote:


StiM never claimed vet.

....I think.
I thought we all got that he was vt, or vanilla town, out of that
right?

On July 19 2013 09:28 Xzavier wrote:
so now we know that there is a town JK still alive, thats really good for us.

time to filter dive hurricane and hzflank.

On July 19 2013 09:34 Superfluous wrote:


I'd say there's no guarantee of jk being alive, but it would be a pretty dumb play by maf to fake claim this.

Mods, are we able to know if there to be a town jk, would they have a document with the person they block? Other games I played have had this.

On July 19 2013 09:37 Xzavier wrote:



i get what your saying with the first half, and i seriously dont think anybody to be stupid enough to fake-claim after seeing the Rolebloker die. Thats a silly play and would get lynched the next day if nobody else said anything (unless the JK hit teh SK and there was only 1 NK)

i didnt follow your green text in the slightest

On July 22 2013 07:30 hzflank wrote:
At the point of my death, I had Super as Cop (with a N1 guilty check on Xzav), Sponge as JK and Umasi as SK. I also had Rainbows as Vet on D1.

On July 22 2013 07:56 Hurricane Sponge wrote:


If I had interpreted your soft-claim, I would have hard claimed and pushed for your lynch. Which would have ended up with both of us dead.