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marvellosity
United Kingdom36161 Posts
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Stutters695
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JarJarDrinks
United States1302 Posts
On July 06 2013 23:01 Stutters695 wrote: Wait. You just changed your story. You said that the reason was because only miller was available to him. Now you're saying the reason is because people wouldn't allow a 2nd VT claim?WoS had Vig and I believe he's 3p. A second lynch target getting out of it via claiming VT wouldn't fly, especially with Marv back in the thread and I believe Marv(much to Vivax's dismay I'm sure), Gum, and Vivax are town so his only options are miller or none. | ||
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gumshoe
Canada3602 Posts
On July 06 2013 22:55 JarJarDrinks wrote: Because I don't know right now so I'm focusing on what I do know and I'm proving my innocence. But I am still looking into it. Apparently you don't know who's scum either since you're voting for a townie. Stutter last post is pretty strange. Like shouldn't he be thinking in terms of there being another scummie in the game that faked a claim? WHy would he say that miller was the only option? And Marv, please tell me the flaw in my logic above. Fuba didn't fake claim on day 1. Why? Welp, you've done it. You've taken your read off Solstice for no good reason and you've reneged on Stutters, pretty much like I was sure you would. If your actually a townie you need to admit that your a terrible player, right now. Also I never said Stutters was your scum buddy, that dude hates you and Fuba, I think you knew he was town, and made it clear you knew so that when he flipped, not the least likely possibility, you could let everyone know just how right you were. In fact you could really use the Stutters flip right about now, it would make you correct about something at least. It'd be like giving a pool noodle to a man drowning in the middle of the ocean, but still better than nothing right?. Whatever though, lets go through it. You havent mentioned Oats so we can leave him out. Who are the potential scum teams? Me and WOS? My starting suspicion was WOS day 2 in case you forgot, are you saying I set out on day 2 to try and make sure one of my buddies got lynched? Yeah nope. How about Wos and stutters? Same thing, why work so hard to lynch a teamate. WOS and Solstice? Maybe, it's the only one that COULD work. But why then havent you looked into him? He and you were the only non confirmed who didn't agree with my theory yesterday. Sol eventually came around but only after the wagon gotta rollin. So here we are, back to my deal. Convince me why SOL is the better lynch than you. You wont of course, because hes your scum buddy, you have no where left to turn Jar Jar, they're isn't an endless pool of fishy players you can reach into in hopes of taking the focus off you and your buddy. Were a few fish in a barrel at this point, and two are marked red. You can keep looking for inconsistencies, or technicalities, but when you've supposedly been wrong about so much all the time why should we listen to you at all? "Because I'm town guys! Cmon!" just isn't going to cut it. Now unless your willing to make the case against Solstice (and I dont understand why you wouldn't as town, hes looked scummy to us and you) I hate to say it Jar Jar but... | ||
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gumshoe
Canada3602 Posts
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JarJarDrinks
United States1302 Posts
On July 06 2013 23:03 marvellosity wrote: Why are you ignoring my question? I don't think you're scum because claims, I think you're scum because I don't believe your WoS read, I don't get why a townie would be asking why gumshoe looks townie, I don't like how you passively agreed with rayn's theory to retract it weakly later, I don't like how you went from pushing fuba to just dropping it for WoS. If you're town and you can't find scum or at least demonstrate a townie thought process (which is primarily where I think you've fell down, repeatedly) then we're gonna lose today. On July 06 2013 22:55 JarJarDrinks wrote: Same question to everyone else.Fuba didn't fake claim on day 1. Why? | ||
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JarJarDrinks
United States1302 Posts
@Marv and Gumshoe. You can say that I'm terrible or haven't been acting in the best interests of the town. I disagree but there's no need for me to argue the point because it's irrelevent right now. Bottom line is: If you are town, you will be hanging me even though I claimed and I proved logically that scum has no fakeclaims. I will probably be mostly gone untill the evening. I'll try and look into other people and make some more cases that no one will listen to because I don't want it said that I gave up on the town. | ||
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gumshoe
Canada3602 Posts
On July 07 2013 00:40 JarJarDrinks wrote: Why are you ignoring my question? Same question to everyone else. a) Fuba received the miller claim, and didn't want to throw himself into the fire so early in the game, which ended up working because Vayne was lynched, not him. b) Scum only received they're claims after the pause. In which case Fuba claiming miller would've looked terrible. c)Dude was super afk d)combination of the above. This at the least is plausible. It does not fly in the face of reason considering the circumstances of this game. Am I right 100 percent? No, but neither are you. Therefore we treat claims as null. Make a case based on peoples posting and relation to Fuba. Back to the question then, why should we lynch Solstice instead of you. | ||
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JarJarDrinks
United States1302 Posts
On July 07 2013 01:11 gumshoe wrote: Thanks for proving my point and not reading what I wrote. a) Fuba received the miller claim, and didn't want to throw himself into the fire so early in the game, which ended up working because Vayne was lynched, not him. b) Scum only received they're claims after the pause. In which case Fuba claiming miller would've looked terrible. c)Dude was super afk d)combination of the above. This at the least is plausible. It does not fly in the face of reason considering the circumstances of this game. Am I right 100 percent? No, but neither are you. Therefore we treat claims as null. Make a case based on peoples posting and relation to Fuba. Back to the question then, why should we lynch Solstice instead of you. You believe stutters or Solstice is my scumbuddy right? They both have claimed vanilla roles right? Therefore scum had a vanilla role to claim and Fuba didn't use it despite being pretty close to being lynched for the majority of that last hour. And he wasn't AFK as he posted about 4 times in that time period. So your answer makes no sense but I'm sure you'll still stick to your guns. | ||
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WaveofShadow
Canada31494 Posts
On July 07 2013 01:26 JarJarDrinks wrote: Thanks for proving my point and not reading what I wrote. You believe stutters or Solstice is my scumbuddy right? They both have claimed vanilla roles right? Therefore scum had a vanilla role to claim and Fuba didn't use it despite being pretty close to being lynched for the majority of that last hour. And he wasn't AFK as he posted about 4 times in that time period. So your answer makes no sense but I'm sure you'll still stick to your guns. You're a super derp. Go over the claims again and look at what the last 2 town claims were when me and fuba had yet to claim: Vigi and Hammersmark. Scum and I were not given the same info/claims so I had to either claim for real or use vigi, I obv chose vigi. Scum used their other two fakeclaims on their other two members and they were left with Hammersmark. Since they didn't claim miller early in the day when they 'should' have (and I distinctly remember someone (Oats?) saying claiming miller now would be a scumclaim or something), claiming the only 'safe' role left to them would have meant death for fuba anyway, so they gambled on the fact that there was either no survivor (I doubt this) or that they could pit themselves against whoever it was that decided to counterclaim fuba. They lost this gamble. I explained this whole thing wayyyyyy earlier JJD so you're just be purposefully willful and ignorant right now. You also answered everyone's recent questions but mine. Why are you always avoiding questions regarding us being on the same scumteam in Les? | ||
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JarJarDrinks
United States1302 Posts
On July 07 2013 01:31 WaveofShadow wrote: You're a super derp. Go over the claims again and look at what the last 2 town claims were when me and fuba had yet to claim: Vigi and Hammersmark. Scum and I were not given the same info/claims so I had to either claim for real or use vigi, I obv chose vigi. Scum used their other two fakeclaims on their other two members and they were left with Hammersmark. Since they didn't claim miller early in the day when they 'should' have (and I distinctly remember someone (Oats?) saying claiming miller now would be a scumclaim or something), claiming the only 'safe' role left to them would have meant death for fuba anyway, so they gambled on the fact that there was either no survivor (I doubt this) or that they could pit themselves against whoever it was that decided to counterclaim fuba. They lost this gamble. I explained this whole thing wayyyyyy earlier JJD so you're just be purposefully willful and ignorant right now. You also answered everyone's recent questions but mine. Why are you always avoiding questions regarding us being on the same scumteam in Les? On day 1, BEFORE THE MASS CLAIMS. Fuba was close to being lynched BEFORE THE MASS CLAIMS and didn't claim BEFORE THE MASS CLAIMS. He apparantly has a vanilla claim in his pocket because this was BEFORE THE MASS CLAIMS. He didn't use it, why? | ||
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WaveofShadow
Canada31494 Posts
On July 07 2013 01:45 JarJarDrinks wrote: Is this game an experiement? I feel like I'm on the truman show. How can so many people read what I write and then ignore it. On day 1, BEFORE THE MASS CLAIMS. Fuba was close to being lynched BEFORE THE MASS CLAIMS and didn't claim BEFORE THE MASS CLAIMS. He apparantly has a vanilla claim in his pocket because this was BEFORE THE MASS CLAIMS. He didn't use it, why? Because he's not bad and knows there's no sense claiming so early in a day? | ||
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marvellosity
United Kingdom36161 Posts
He *didn't* get lynched and he *didn't* have to fakeclaim, which is both the goal of a mafia player and a townie. Your whole argument rests on "well he had a claim, why didn't he use it" - well, he didn't have to use it in the end. End of conversation. | ||
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WaveofShadow
Canada31494 Posts
On July 07 2013 01:50 WaveofShadow wrote: Because he's not bad and knows there's no sense claiming so early in a day? It may have also been because if scum were given their claims way earlier (either before the pause or after it) fuba was already 'chosen' to have to use hammersmark so he wanted to avoid caliming at all costs. It may have been because fuba was the closest of the scumteam to being lynched at the time they decided to give him the shittiest of the claims they got. There are plenty of very likely explanations JJD, and you treat your questions like you're fucking Edward Snowden breaking the news of NSA to the world. | ||
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marvellosity
United Kingdom36161 Posts
It's ludicrous. Move on. | ||
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Stutters695
2610 Posts
On July 06 2013 23:17 JarJarDrinks wrote: Wait. You just changed your story. You said that the reason was because only miller was available to him. Now you're saying the reason is because people wouldn't allow a 2nd VT claim? Last post on your stupid questions. No I didn't change my story, I'm explaining in a completely plausible way what could have happened and why your theory is bad based on actions in the game. Obviously he had miller+ whatever roles his partners had (which my post pretty clearly shows would be VTs IMO) however I'm explaining that anyone halfway decent at mafia wouldn't have let him escape the noose by a VT claim after you already had, especially with his shitty posting. If they had a safe blue I bet he would have claimed it but as I explained they obviously didn't. | ||
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gumshoe
Canada3602 Posts
Hey WOS, whats the first thing your gonna to do if you manage to avoid getting shot, lynched, or modkilled before the end of this game? Also Jar Jar. May I please have a case on why Solstice is scum? | ||
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WaveofShadow
Canada31494 Posts
Probably do a little jig and click my heels together? | ||
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gumshoe
Canada3602 Posts
On July 07 2013 02:15 WaveofShadow wrote: Oh yeah I meant to answer that. Probably do a little jig and click my heels together? Are you also gonna take off that handsome-lookin' S.S. uniform of yours? | ||
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WaveofShadow
Canada31494 Posts
I tell ya what. I'll tell my loyal followers not to nuke you in the next game, k? :D | ||
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